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Blueface 06-03-2012 09:31 AM

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My latest addition a couple of months ago.
Just got the Crimson Trace a week or so ago.

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...o/e9a08a3e.jpg

Now begging wife for a Remington 870 12 g 18" for Father's Day.:D

Blueface 06-03-2012 09:36 AM

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Also got the Crimson Trace for my Ruger LCP.
Cigar budget long gone.

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...o/f77b0e6a.jpg

ChicagoWhiteSox 06-03-2012 09:39 AM

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Nice additions Carlos. You getting the 870 for home defense?

Blueface 06-03-2012 09:45 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox (Post 1648436)
Nice additions Carlos. You getting the 870 for home defense?

Yup.
Looking at the synthetic Express 6+1.
Bass Pro Shops has best price I have found at $389.
Bud's does not have the one I want.

Just ordered Crimson for my Sigma.
Wife is going to kill me.
My thought is she will get over it.
I have had to do the same with many of her charging sprees.
Three letters for cigars scared me from buying for a while and then I found this yet equally addictive hobby.
Off to range shortly.

ChicagoWhiteSox 06-03-2012 09:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 1648441)
Yup.
Looking at the synthetic Express 6+1.
Bass Pro Shops has best price I have found at $389.
Bud's does not have the one I want.

Just ordered Crimson for my Sigma.
Wife is going to kill me.
My thought is she will get over it.
I have had to do the same with many of her charging sprees.
Three letters for cigars scared me from buying for a while and then I found this yet equally addictive hobby.
Off to range shortly.

I'm on the edge of getting a Glock 29. I don't need another slope to fall down, so I'm holding out for now:r

Blueface 06-03-2012 10:00 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox (Post 1648444)
I'm on the edge of getting a Glock 29. I don't need another slope to fall down, so I'm holding out for now:r

:r
I want the Remington.
After that, an AR15 is in my plans.
Somewhere along the way, I really feel I need a .40 caliber as don't have one and thinking I will really, really need a Glock 27. :D

ChicagoWhiteSox 06-03-2012 10:04 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 1648447)
:r
I want the Remington.
After that, an AR15 is in my plans.
Somewhere along the way, I really feel I need a .40 caliber as don't have one and thinking I will really, really need a Glock 27. :D

I've been looking at ARs recently too:r I just got a 2012 Rock River Arms catalog in the mail a week or so ago, not good because I see some stuff I like in there. Pistol will come first though. G29 or something similar in 10mm auto.

Blueface 06-03-2012 10:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox (Post 1648450)
I've been looking at ARs recently too:r I just got a 2012 Rock River Arms catalog in the mail a week or so ago, not good because I see some stuff I like in there. Pistol will come first though. G29 or something similar in 10mm auto.

Gotta tell you, never fired the 10mm Glock as have read 10mm packs one heck of a wallop, and also the added cost of ammo.
But man do I love my Glock 21. Like I tell folks, if a Golden Saber bullet doesn't put them down, throw the gun at them and you may kill them that way as that gun is so heavy, but in a very good way.
That gun feels so solid when fully loaded. The recoil is quite interesting as I would describe it rather than a muzzle flip of a typical gun, more like a rifle. I guess that is attributed to the weight of slide and barrel and new double spring on Gen4 models.
Son and I were both able to shoot numerous rounds (7-8 in a row), where placement was unbelievable almost on top of one another.
I have not been able to do that with any other gun.

ChicagoWhiteSox 06-03-2012 10:38 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 1648457)
Gotta tell you, never fired the 10mm Glock as have read 10mm packs one heck of a wallop, and also the added cost of ammo.
But man do I love my Glock 21. Like I tell folks, if a Golden Saber bullet doesn't put them down, throw the gun at them and you may kill them that way as that gun is so heavy, but in a very good way.
That gun feels so solid when fully loaded. The recoil is quite interesting as I would describe it rather than a muzzle flip of a typical gun, more like a rifle. I guess that is attributed to the weight of slide and barrel and new double spring on Gen4 models.
Son and I were both able to shoot numerous rounds (7-8 in a row), where placement was unbelievable almost on top of one another.
I have not been able to do that with any other gun.

The recoil isn't what I expected after shooting one. Not bad at all. The cost of ammo is what I'm not so excited about. The G21 is a big gun for sure. Do you have a G30 as well?

Blueface 06-03-2012 10:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox (Post 1648465)
The recoil isn't what I expected after shooting one. Not bad at all. The cost of ammo is what I'm not so excited about. The G21 is a big gun for sure. Do you have a G30 as well?

I have three guns so far.
Glock 21, S&W Sigma 9mm and Ruger LCP.
I have a feeling my list will be a bit longer this time next year.:D

Digs 06-03-2012 11:26 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 1648441)
Yup.
Looking at the synthetic Express 6+1.
Bass Pro Shops has best price I have found at $389.
Bud's does not have the one I want.

Just ordered Crimson for my Sigma.
Wife is going to kill me.
My thought is she will get over it.
I have had to do the same with many of her charging sprees.
Three letters for cigars scared me from buying for a while and then I found this yet equally addictive hobby.
Off to range shortly.


Not sure I would would spend the money for crimson trace for a sigma ? That's kind of like putting $2500 wheels on a 1989 Hyundai . LOL

Digs 06-03-2012 11:56 AM

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Carlos did you consider the laser max that integrates into the guide rod. That way you can carry it in any standard Glock holster.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 1648429)
My latest addition a couple of months ago.
Just got the Crimson Trace a week or so ago.

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...o/e9a08a3e.jpg

Now begging wife for a Remington 870 12 g 18" for Father's Day.:D


theonlybear4CORT 06-03-2012 01:28 PM

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Anyone have experience with the asym ammo? I currently have ranger T in my 1911 and wanted to hear some first hand experience from some botl.

Blueface 06-03-2012 04:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Digs (Post 1648483)
Not sure I would would spend the money for crimson trace for a sigma ? That's kind of like putting $2500 wheels on a 1989 Hyundai . LOL

Too late.
In a few days, that Hyundai is going to be blinged out with 22's. LOL

Actually getting it for wife. She is shooting much better with them on the guns.

issues 06-04-2012 08:41 AM

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Went to the range yesterday and fell in love with a Springfield XDM 40. May have to kill the 1911 purchase and pick one of these up instead for my first semi-auto pistol! :tu

spectrrr 06-04-2012 11:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 1648457)
That gun feels so solid when fully loaded. The recoil is quite interesting as I would describe it rather than a muzzle flip of a typical gun, more like a rifle. I guess that is attributed to the weight of slide and barrel and new double spring on Gen4 models.
Son and I were both able to shoot numerous rounds (7-8 in a row), where placement was unbelievable almost on top of one another.
I have not been able to do that with any other gun.

I noticed the same thing when shooting a Glock 30, I loved it!
I don't have a 30 at the moment, but it's high on the short list to get one day....

Had a 27 a while back and sold it. Just not a big fan of the .40 cal in a Glock.

Poronico 06-05-2012 07:06 AM

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OK... SO I am selling a majority of my firearms and doing some swapping to afford wedding rings and getting a monetary cushion for baby in August... Is anyone familiar with pricing on a P99 QPQ in .40? I looked online and found as little as 200 and as much as 550, I don't want to get taken for a ride on this trade and as it is a friend of a friend I semi feel obligated to give him a fair price.

357 06-05-2012 07:11 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Poronico (Post 1649527)
OK... SO I am selling a majority of my firearms and doing some swapping to afford wedding rings and getting a monetary cushion for baby in August... Is anyone familiar with pricing on a P99 QPQ in .40? I looked online and found as little as 200 and as much as 550, I don't want to get taken for a ride on this trade and as it is a friend of a friend I semi feel obligated to give him a fair price.

Not sure about the value. I'd check gunbroker and gunsamerica and see what guns in similar condition are selling for.

Poronico 06-05-2012 07:19 AM

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Neither site has nothing available on that weapon

Blueface 06-05-2012 09:59 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Poronico (Post 1649546)
Neither site has nothing available on that weapon

Lots of folks seem to use Bud's to purchase.
Would start there as a "low" retail, up to whatever local shops are getting.

Blueface 06-05-2012 10:02 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
After seeing a big guy fire a 12 gauge at the range this past Sunday, decided I would like to keep my shoulder as it currently appears and instead, move on to a weapon I can have more fun with.
AR 15 here I come.
Looking at DPMS PAnther or S&W MP15.
Would love the Colt but rather save the $400 or so for gadgets.

replicant_argent 06-05-2012 10:05 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 1649669)
After seeing a big guy fire a 12 gauge at the range this past Sunday, decided I would like to keep my shoulder as it currently appears and instead, move on to a weapon I can have more fun with.
AR 15 here I come.
Looking at DPMS PAnther or S&W MP15.
Would love the Colt but rather save the $400 or so for gadgets.

The M&P15 seems to be a winner overall. I have my eye on one of those as well.
In due time, I am hopeful. :rolleyes:

Bill86 06-05-2012 10:09 AM

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I have the M&P AR-15. It's good, you'll just have to file down the lip on the PMAGS or else they won't fit. Other than that, no complaints.

ChicagoWhiteSox 06-05-2012 10:21 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 1649669)
After seeing a big guy fire a 12 gauge at the range this past Sunday, decided I would like to keep my shoulder as it currently appears and instead, move on to a weapon I can have more fun with.
AR 15 here I come.
Looking at DPMS PAnther or S&W MP15.
Would love the Colt but rather save the $400 or so for gadgets.

Besides having my eyes on the G29 and now a G30, I'm planning on buying a AR 15 as well. From what people tell me, Rock River Arms builds great firearms. They are priced decent as well. Bravo is another company I'm looking at, but more expensive.

Ranger_B 06-05-2012 10:22 AM

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I would stick with the S&W. I have had no luck with DPMS. My brother has the M&P and is slowly pushing me in that direction.

Poronico 06-05-2012 10:24 AM

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Selfless plug lol trying to fund rent for when the baby comes in August :(
http://www.armslist.com/posts/422633...ion-20--custom

ChicagoWhiteSox 06-05-2012 10:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ranger_B (Post 1649684)
I would stick with the S&W. I have had no luck with DPMS. My brother has the M&P and is slowly pushing me in that direction.

I have zero experience with AR 15s, but what little research I've done has all said DPMS is not a good deal, even if they are cheap. Then again, I would imagine it depends a lot on how many rounds the person plans to put through the gun. Maybe a casual shooter would be fine with a DPMS, I'm far from an expert on firearms.

BC-Axeman 06-05-2012 10:27 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 1649669)
After seeing a big guy fire a 12 gauge at the range this past Sunday, decided I would like to keep my shoulder as it currently appears and instead, move on to a weapon I can have more fun with.

It may have something to do with the type of gun he was shooting. A heavier semi-auto with a recoil pad is OK for shooting a few dozen rounds through. A lighter field gun is harder on you but only needs to be practiced with to get a feel for it. A home defense gun you would only shoot enough rounds to know what to expect.

One of the guns that has messed me up the most is a 30-30 carbine. A light gun with a narrow butt on the stock to concentrate the blow. Always makes me black and blue.

ARs are a lot of fun if you have a private place to shoot. A Ruger 10-22 with a scope and high capacity mags and a carton of shells with lots of cans, targets, ground squirrels, wood blocks, apples hanging in trees, crows, junk cars, etc. to shoot at is hard to beat for having fun on the cheap.

Poronico 06-05-2012 10:28 AM

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DPMS aren't terrible firearms, but like any weapon you need to take care of them. I have shot plenty of them and had no problems at all, but I have read stories about people who don't clean or maintain their weapons and then cry when they jam.

replicant_argent 06-05-2012 10:29 AM

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http://palmettostatearmory.com/index...e-package.html

All the specs on PSAs stuff are great, they use FN barrels, and the prices are right, I have also seen they have good customer service in my poking around da webz.

Bill86 06-05-2012 10:33 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 1649669)
After seeing a big guy fire a 12 gauge at the range this past Sunday, decided I would like to keep my shoulder as it currently appears and instead, move on to a weapon I can have more fun with.

12 gauge isn't bad, I own a few of them. I've had several 100-115 pound women shoot them without a problem.

It's all about the stock you purchase, I've got a nice stock on the Remington 870 and you can shoot it one handed. Though it will kick a bit :D, certainly never hurt anyone.

Stock says "Knoxx Spec Ops Stock". Look into them, they certainly work.

TRicker 06-05-2012 12:00 PM

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I have a Smith & Wesson mp 15, and love it. Put a couple thousand rounds downrange so far, no problems. And thats shooting cheap ammo too.

ChicagoWhiteSox 06-05-2012 12:52 PM

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Any guys here have a Bravo Company AR15?

smitty81 06-05-2012 01:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 1649669)
After seeing a big guy fire a 12 gauge at the range this past Sunday, decided I would like to keep my shoulder as it currently appears and instead, move on to a weapon I can have more fun with.
AR 15 here I come.
Looking at DPMS PAnther or S&W MP15.
Would love the Colt but rather save the $400 or so for gadgets.

12 Ga is a pud gun. Heck, kids 8+ shoot them out here during hunting season.

ChicagoWhiteSox 06-05-2012 01:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by smitty81 (Post 1649797)
12 Ga is a pud gun. Heck, kids 8+ shoot them out here during hunting season.

What's your point?

theonlybear4CORT 06-05-2012 01:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox (Post 1649785)
Any guys here have a Bravo Company AR15?

I have a midlenght upper and it's been flawless so far I just plink with it.
Filthy 14

Digs 06-05-2012 01:18 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Poronico (Post 1649527)
OK... SO I am selling a majority of my firearms and doing some swapping to afford wedding rings and getting a monetary cushion for baby in August... Is anyone familiar with pricing on a P99 QPQ in .40? I looked online and found as little as 200 and as much as 550, I don't want to get taken for a ride on this trade and as it is a friend of a friend I semi feel obligated to give him a fair price.

New the P99 .40 is around $500. (Maybe $525 out the door but don’t cont on recouping misc fees) Depending on condition and if you only have the 2 mags and case (like you got it) if its buddy ask $400 and see what kind of response you get?

The gun broker is ok for a lose reference; I see a lot of crack head prices on there. Its best to check what has sold not what is for sale, remember the reason you can see it for sale on gun broker is because no one has bought it yet. Lol

Digs 06-05-2012 01:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox (Post 1649682)
Besides having my eyes on the G29 and now a G30, I'm planning on buying a AR 15 as well. From what people tell me, Rock River Arms builds great firearms. They are priced decent as well. Bravo is another company I'm looking at, but more expensive.


Rock River is ok, but they are not the manufacturer they simply assemble AR's from purchased parts.

For me top shelf AR's (that are reasonable) and built to mil-spec would be Colt, Spikes Tactile, Lewis Machine and tool, SIG, and S&W, LWRC. The two brands I would stay away from would be 1. DPMS 2. Bushmaster

Remember if you chose to buy a Colt, it’s a Colt and kind of an investment.

Digs 06-05-2012 01:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox (Post 1649689)
I have zero experience with AR 15s, but what little research I've done has all said DPMS is not a good deal, even if they are cheap. Then again, I would imagine it depends a lot on how many rounds the person plans to put through the gun. Maybe a casual shooter would be fine with a DPMS, I'm far from an expert on firearms.

No they are ok if you buy on simply price; DPMS are not mil-spec (not refereeing to FA) I am not a hater just pointing out some items I have noticed.

Barrels are generally not chrome lined
Barrels are not MPI inspected
Bolt & carriers are not MPI inspected
Receivers will not fit all mags! (saw a pos dpms that a tango down mag wouldn’t fit)
Carrier interior not chrome lined
Bolt & carriers are not MPI inspected
Gas key screws not staked and improper hardness
Rifles with the M4 stock have a commercial spec tube and are not staked properly

The fit between the upper & lower are pretty lose on the rifles I have handled and worked on, overall there QC is a little week, I have also seen Olympic and Bushmaster with most of the same issues.

smitty81 06-05-2012 03:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox (Post 1649799)
What's your point?

I was basically telling him not to be scared of the recoil from a 12 gauger. It isn't that bad.

I'm sorry so many of you took offense to my post, it wasn't meant to be degrading. I was just telling him that the recoil isn't as bad as it seems.

Blueface 06-05-2012 03:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by smitty81 (Post 1649878)
I was basically telling him not to be scared of the recoil from a 12 gauger. It isn't that bad.

I'm sorry so many of you took offense to my post, it wasn't meant to be degrading. I was just telling him that the recoil isn't as bad as it seems.

No worries.
Life is too short.:D

I am not worried for me as I am gradually finding the bigger the caliber, the more I enjoy it. I am sure it won't be an issue for me, although not something I will enjoy shooting a 100 rounds in an hour.
My concern is my wife. I really don't think she is anywhere close yet to taking that on. I rather get other weapons now and in time, as her comfort level increases, go back to looking at a 12 gauge.

smitty81 06-05-2012 03:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 1649891)
No worries.
Life is too short.:D

I am not worried for me as I am gradually finding the bigger the caliber, the more I enjoy it. I am sure it won't be an issue for me, although not something I will enjoy shooting a 100 rounds in an hour.
My concern is my wife. I really don't think she is anywhere close yet to taking that on. I rather get other weapons now and in time, as her comfort level increases, go back to looking at a 12 gauge.

Get her a 20 Gauge, she can shoot it all day.:tu

emopunker2004 06-05-2012 03:47 PM

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Dude my wife is 5'1" and can shoot a 12ga without a problem

TRicker 06-05-2012 05:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 1649891)
No worries.
Life is too short.:D

I am not worried for me as I am gradually finding the bigger the caliber, the more I enjoy it. I am sure it won't be an issue for me, although not something I will enjoy shooting a 100 rounds in an hour.
My concern is my wife. I really don't think she is anywhere close yet to taking that on. I rather get other weapons now and in time, as her comfort level increases, go back to looking at a 12 gauge.

Totally understandable, There is a big difference between being able to shoot something and being comfortable shooting something. My wife never touched a gun before a month ago. If I had handed her my 12 gauge and said you can easily handle this, a 5'1" 100 lb women can, she would have shot it once and never gone back with me. I started her on my 9mm, and .22 pistols. The next time we went to the range, she asked me to bring my ar15 and 357 magnum! Better to go slow and let her tell you when she's ready.(That sounded pretty dirty!)

emopunker2004 06-05-2012 05:31 PM

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:r:r:r

Digs 06-05-2012 07:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by smitty81 (Post 1649894)
Get her a 20 Gauge, she can shoot it all day.:tu

Rather then go 20 gauge, I would look into a semi like the 1187 Remington. Less kick because you have the action absorb the recoil, my 11 year old daughter can handle me 12 gauge 1187 all day long.

Brian D. 06-10-2012 05:48 AM

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Taking my .308/7.62 x 51 AR-10 out today to see how it shoots at 200 yds. and beyond. Had the thing a couple months now and hadn't managed to try it out beyond about 40 yards.

emopunker2004 06-10-2012 11:16 AM

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The EDC. Gun and the new knife

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8164/7...76c71e8f_c.jpg
DSC_3809 by thestemens16, on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7234/7...8651d0d1_c.jpg
DSC_3810 by thestemens16, on Flickr

Steve 06-10-2012 04:04 PM

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If Frank and the boys down south don't get the face-eating zombie issue resolved soon, this may become my next EDC

http://oldchurchbbq.com/sharedpictures/Misc3/M249.jpg

:banger :D

Ogre 06-10-2012 04:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by steve (Post 1653147)
If Frank and the boys down south don't get the face-eating zombie issue resolved soon, this may become my next EDC

http://oldchurchbbq.com/sharedpictures/Misc3/M249.jpg

:banger :D

Amen Brother!!!!!


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