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stearns 07-29-2021 10:10 AM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
I assumed price, although pour size is also good info to have (assuming 1.5-2oz)

The camaro show 07-29-2021 10:36 AM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
Prices

Says 1.75 Oz so pretty decent pour

The camaro show 07-29-2021 10:37 AM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
Would most likely be in a old fashioned if that changes anything

longknocker 07-29-2021 12:20 PM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stearns (Post 2221224)
I assumed price, although pour size is also good info to have (assuming 1.5-2oz)

Quote:

Originally Posted by The camaro show (Post 2221225)
Prices

Says 1.75 Oz so pretty decent pour

:tu

stearns 07-29-2021 12:32 PM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The camaro show (Post 2221226)
Would most likely be in a old fashioned if that changes anything

Maybe keep it to the under $10 options. I've had some good Old Fashioneds with nicer booze, and they do sometimes elevate the drink, but you're not gonna get a good feel for the underlying whiskey. Also always a good option to ask the bartender what they prefer for their Old Fashioneds, I've had a few where they give me some surprising answers so I usually just let them run with it. My favorite is going to a nice cocktail bar and saying "I want something like an Old Fashioned, but not an Old Fashioned, and maybe some some X (honey, orange, whatever you're in the mood for) in it." Gotta trust the bartender but if they know what they're doing you'll usually end up with something delicious

longknocker 07-29-2021 04:07 PM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
Do Any Of You Agree With These Choices???
https://www.gearpatrol.com/food/drin.../best-bourbon/

longknocker 07-29-2021 04:09 PM

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Ben: When You Get A Chance, Can You List The Good Wheated Vs. Corn Bourbons??? Thanks!

SNKBYT 07-29-2021 06:00 PM

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Headed to Bourbon KY

jledou 07-29-2021 06:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by longknocker (Post 2221243)
Do Any Of You Agree With These Choices???
https://www.gearpatrol.com/food/drin.../best-bourbon/

It's a good list but I would pick a different "cheap" bourbon

Best Cheap Bourbon: Evan Williams Black Label

I would prefer Old Forester's Bottled in Bond or Wild Turkey 101. Both can be found around $20 a bottle typically.

The regular Four Roses often gets the best mixer but it is also an inexpensive one with a different profile from the two listed above.

A lot depends on your preference here but you can often find a lot of good bourbons from the larger distillers in the lower priced range that are better than the latest small batch boutique label that sources a young bourbon and slaps a label on it.

longknocker 07-29-2021 06:58 PM

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Thanks, Jay!:tu

stearns 07-30-2021 06:54 AM

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A few thoughts- I'm not a believer in these types of lists generally but this one at least hits a couple places. Best overall as Knob Creek is fair and I'm a fan, Evan Williams white (bottled in bond) is a world better than black, the ones in the "affordable" category are all good pours, the "high-end" section is all over the place but mostly on track. In general there's really nothing on the list that will disappoint. And if you find the "Grail Bourbon" at the bottom William Larue Weller please give me a call :)

longknocker 07-30-2021 07:10 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by stearns (Post 2221266)
A few thoughts- I'm not a believer in these types of lists generally but this one at least hits a couple places. Best overall as Knob Creek is fair and I'm a fan, Evan Williams white (bottled in bond) is a world better than black, the ones in the "affordable" category are all good pours, the "high-end" section is all over the place but mostly on track. In general there's really nothing on the list that will disappoint. And if you find the "Grail Bourbon" at the bottom William Larue Weller please give me a call :)

Thanks, Brother!:D:tu. I Still Haven't Found Which Of Your Favorites Are More Wheat Vs. More Corn.

stearns 07-30-2021 07:27 AM

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Any "Bourbon" will be at least 51% corn, actual wheat whiskeys are another hole to go down but that hole isn't as deep. I like wheated bourbons a lot, there aren't a ton of them out there, mostly Weller and Makers Mark. I'm a big fan of Makers, especially 46 Cask Strength (the 101 is pretty good too). Weller is... Weller, if you can get it get whatever you can but don't overspend, I personally am a huge fan of Old Weller Antique 107 but have a couple nice Weller Full Proofs, those ones took a lot of patience (and in one case a sizable charitable donation) but they can be really good, or really average depending on the barrel

longknocker 07-30-2021 07:35 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by stearns (Post 2221269)
Any "Bourbon" will be at least 51% corn, actual wheat whiskeys are another hole to go down but that hole isn't as deep. I like wheated bourbons a lot, there aren't a ton of them out there, mostly Weller and Makers Mark. I'm a big fan of Makers, especially 46 Cask Strength (the 101 is pretty good too). Weller is... Weller, if you can get it get whatever you can but don't overspend, I personally am a huge fan of Old Weller Antique 107 but have a couple nice Weller Full Proofs, those ones took a lot of patience (and in one case a sizable charitable donation) but they can be really good, or really average depending on the barrel

So Knob Creek, Four Roses, & Most Of Your Other Suggested Bourbons Are The Higher Corn Variety???

stearns 07-30-2021 07:55 AM

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They are all primarily corn, that being said there's a lot of room for playing around with that remaining 49%. Four Roses has two different mashbills, one 20% rye and one 35% rye (blends will usually have both), MGP is similar with 21% rye and 36% rye, Knob Creek is higher corn with only 13% rye. This list isn't exhaustive but can give you a general idea of what a lot of the bigger ones are doing for their mash. Also keep in mind that the time in the barrel likely has more impact on the final product than the mash, but everything plays together to get you to what you taste when you pour it in a glass

longknocker 07-30-2021 09:15 AM

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That's What I Needed, Ben,Thanks!:D:tu

icehog3 07-30-2021 09:40 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by longknocker (Post 2221221)
Since I'm An Old Fart With No Mind Left, Explain The Numbers After The Whiskey???:confused:

I think it's the price of a pour at the joint Chayse is talking about. :)

longknocker 07-30-2021 10:19 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 2221283)
I think it's the price of a pour at the joint Chayse is talking about. :)

Got It!:D:tu

SNKBYT 08-01-2021 04:06 PM

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:banger

longknocker 08-02-2021 06:09 PM

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Found A New Bourbon At Costco To Try:
https://i.imgur.com/RJyhigxl.jpg











Here's TheStory That Seemed Interesting To Me:
https://www.insidehook.com/article/b...ew-mcconaughey

icehog3 08-03-2021 09:12 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by longknocker (Post 2221390)
Found A New Bourbon At Costco To Try:
https://i.imgur.com/RJyhigxl.jpg

Have you cracked it yet, Greg? Curious to hear your thoughts.

Couple bottle kills this weekend.

https://i.imgur.com/ty2DiJu.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/rXGVMO3.jpg

stearns 08-03-2021 11:03 AM

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Nice bottles all around! Never tried Longbranch myself but heard it's a solid choice, especially if you can get it for a couple bucks off retail (hopefully Costco helped you there). I've heard it described as "like Wild Turkey's Gentleman's Jack"

Good kills Tom, I haven't been drinking much new recently because I'm trying to work on population control as well, getting close to the point where all bottles under half full are the ones I don't want to kill off, got through about 5 but in that time I acquired more like 10, there's no winning :sl

I did get a fun new set of tasting glasses, washed em but haven't broken them in yet, hopefully I can work some magic tonight

longknocker 08-03-2021 12:00 PM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stearns (Post 2221416)
Nice bottles all around! Never tried Longbranch myself but heard it's a solid choice, especially if you can get it for a couple bucks off retail (hopefully Costco helped you there). I've heard it described as "like Wild Turkey's Gentleman's Jack"

Good kills Tom, I haven't been drinking much new recently because I'm trying to work on population control as well, getting close to the point where all bottles under half full are the ones I don't want to kill off, got through about 5 but in that time I acquired more like 10, there's no winning :sl

I did get a fun new set of tasting glasses, washed em but haven't broken them in yet, hopefully I can work some magic tonight

Exactly What The Costco Salesman Said, Ben!:D. Admiral: It's Best Neat; I Could Really Taste A Little Mesquite (Love This!), Vanilla, & Caramel. When Mixed With Ice, It Definitely Diluted The Flavors. I Think The Price Was Around $40 With Tax. Less Than 100 Proof, So Probably Not You Two Inmates Favorite, But Definitely A Good Sipper! You Should Try It!:tu

stearns 08-03-2021 12:05 PM

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Great price! Glad you like it

Don't rule out Tom, he posted a picture of himself drinking <89 proof just last week elsewhere in this forum :D

icehog3 08-03-2021 03:31 PM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
I need that Hancock in barrel stength, Ben! :r

Glad you liked the Longbranch, Greg, thatnks to you and Ben for some insight.

I am going to throw out all my empties from the beginning of the pandemic, I should take a picture first. :r

stearns 08-03-2021 03:42 PM

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You have room for empties? You need more fulls :al

jledou 08-03-2021 03:43 PM

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Longbranch to me was a bourbon's attempt to get to a Scotch-like peat like taste. For me it didn't overpower and was a unique and interesting bourbon. Not a large mover around here so we can often find it for under $40.

icehog3 08-03-2021 03:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by stearns (Post 2221439)
You have room for empties? You need more fulls :al

I absolutely don't, and I'll absolutely buy more. :lr

longknocker 08-04-2021 09:14 AM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jledou (Post 2221441)
Longbranch to me was a bourbon's attempt to get to a Scotch-like peat like taste. For me it didn't overpower and was a unique and interesting bourbon. Not a large mover around here so we can often find it for under $40.

Do You Drink It Neat, Jay?

jledou 08-04-2021 09:48 AM

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I do Greg.

longknocker 08-04-2021 03:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jledou (Post 2221465)
I do Greg.

Amazing How The Flavor Profile Diminishes With Added Ice. I Still Like It Cold, Though, & The Whiskey Rocks Don't Seem To Do The Trick.

Jbailey 08-04-2021 04:14 PM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by longknocker (Post 2221472)
Amazing How The Flavor Profile Diminishes With Added Ice. I Still Like It Cold, Though, & The Whiskey Rocks Don't Seem To Do The Trick.

I use to add a few drops of cold water into my Scotch and maybe a small piece of crushed ice in my bourbon.

longknocker 08-04-2021 04:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jbailey (Post 2221475)
I use to add a few drops of cold water into my Scotch and maybe a small piece of crushed ice in my bourbon.

:tu

jledou 08-04-2021 06:34 PM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by longknocker (Post 2221472)
Amazing How The Flavor Profile Diminishes With Added Ice. I Still Like It Cold, Though, & The Whiskey Rocks Don't Seem To Do The Trick.

I was the same way, ice and let it melt down. Then slowly it was put the ice in and let it cool, drink it before the ice really melted. Then it moved to less ice, maybe a cube and slowly it became neat. The thing that also helped me transition was smaller and smaller sips. The flavor is still there but the breath taking burn was not.

And then Tom and Ben get you interested in barrel proof and :gary

longknocker 08-05-2021 06:51 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jledou (Post 2221483)
I was the same way, ice and let it melt down. Then slowly it was put the ice in and let it cool, drink it before the ice really melted. Then it moved to less ice, maybe a cube and slowly it became neat. The thing that also helped me transition was smaller and smaller sips. The flavor is still there but the breath taking burn was not.

And then Tom and Ben get you interested in barrel proof and :gary

Definitely! Bookers Was Strong, But Smooth!:tu

icehog3 08-05-2021 01:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jledou (Post 2221483)
And then Tom and Ben get you interested in barrel proof and :gary

;s :banger -(P

Some SiB Knob Creek Rye last night. I really prefer the Cask Strength Rye they release every year over this single barrel. I have another single barrel I'll try after this is done, and if it's the same, I'll only buy the CS Rye if I buy any at all.

https://i.imgur.com/VOTsCWq.jpg

Porch Dweller 08-07-2021 07:33 AM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
I finally cracked open the Nulu last night. I really enjoy it...at it's price point. Any higher and I'd look for other drinks.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...181b2642_z.jpg

icehog3 08-07-2021 08:35 AM

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https://i.imgur.com/SknewPb.jpg

I just enjoy this more and more as time goes by. If Binny's does another barrel pick I will pick up another.

Mikepd 08-08-2021 05:16 PM

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Anyone have any input on Bookers 2019-04 ‘Beaten Biscuits’? I’ve heard it compared to a cinnamon bomb but was wondering if anyone here has tried it? I got an offer for a bottle but wasn’t sure if it’s worth picking up.

icehog3 08-09-2021 08:26 AM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikepd (Post 2221657)
Anyone have any input on Bookers 2019-04 ‘Beaten Biscuits’? I’ve heard it compared to a cinnamon bomb but was wondering if anyone here has tried it? I got an offer for a bottle but wasn’t sure if it’s worth picking up.

https://i.imgur.com/UuM7pAC.jpg

2019 was a good year for Booker's, and I dig the Biscuits. I would definitely put a few drops of water in, it really brings out the flavors in Booker's batches. But if you can get it close to MSRP, I definitely would (and have).

Mikepd 08-09-2021 07:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 2221672)
https://i.imgur.com/UuM7pAC.jpg

2019 was a good year for Booker's, and I dig the Biscuits. ... I definitely would.

You talked me into it! Guess it'll be making it's way to Shack along with a case of other friends from my stock!

icehog3 08-09-2021 08:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikepd (Post 2221702)
You talked me into it! Guess it'll be making it's way to Shack along with a case of other friends from my stock!

I have a feeling there will be some excellent pours this year. :al

Mikepd 08-09-2021 09:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 2221705)
I have a feeling there will be some excellent pours this year. :al

I believe you sir are correct! :noon


I told myself I'll wait to open it... :hn
https://i.imgur.com/IwgivsB.jpg

icehog3 08-10-2021 08:31 AM

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Went a bit older on the Booker's last night.

https://i.imgur.com/htjsGZp.jpg

Beagleone 08-11-2021 09:51 PM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
Had some Tagalongs on my regular trip to Spec's

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-...4GgkqSq-X2.jpg

icehog3 08-12-2021 08:55 AM

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Curious to hear what you think of this batch when you open one, Tony. For me might be the best since 2019.

https://i.imgur.com/yzoH82v.jpg

longknocker 08-12-2021 10:17 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 2221838)
Curious to hear what you think of this batch when you open one, Tony. For me might be the best since 2019.

https://i.imgur.com/yzoH82v.jpg

Tom: Have You Had Blanton's??? Curious About Your Impressions.

Porch Dweller 08-12-2021 01:48 PM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
Grabbed a couple owner's picks, Ragged Branch Wheated Bourbon, and Bulleit 11-yr Single Barrel.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...0353e091_z.jpg

icehog3 08-12-2021 05:58 PM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
Greg, Blanton's has nice flavor, but it's 93 proof so too light for me now. I wouldn't pay more than $60 for a bottle though.

longknocker 08-12-2021 08:40 PM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 2221871)
Greg, Blanton's has nice flavor, but it's 93 proof so too light for me now. I wouldn't pay more than $60 for a bottle though.

:tu Almost Impossible To Find In Mobile. Picked Up A Bottle In Atlanta Over The Christmas Holidays Last Year For $105. Making It Last!:D


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