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OLS 10-26-2011 07:12 PM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
x2, freezer bags and pulled pork are fine and dandy. Sometimes it's even better after some time in the freezer,
cause you get to iintroduce more crispy element into it on the reheat if you wish.

T.G 10-26-2011 07:33 PM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 1453485)
I'm pretty happy with my first attempt at cold smoking salmon. Just need to refine the cure and prep. I saw one site that recommended soaking the fillet in water for an hour before air drying in the fridge prior to smoking. I may give that a try.

Please LMK how that compares, I have mixed feelings on those extra water-only soaks, I wonder if some of the flavors that I want to preserve are also being diluted or pulled out, but I can't eliminate enough variables with my method to get a handle on that issue, so all other things being equal, I'd be curious to hear how it affects the final product.

pnoon 10-26-2011 07:35 PM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by T.G (Post 1454439)
Please LMK how that compares, I have mixed feelings on those extra water-only soaks, I wonder if some of the flavors that I want to preserve are also being diluted or pulled out, but I can't eliminate enough variables with my method to get a handle on that issue, so all other things being equal, I'd be curious to hear how it affects the final product.

I'll do that.

BengalMan 10-28-2011 01:29 PM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by forgop (Post 1454398)
Did you do the recipe I suggested to you regarding the injection/rub? It's by far the best flavored pulled pork I've ever made.

Regarding a vacuum sealer, I thought I needed one myself. For my last cook, I had 4 freezer 1 gallon bags full of pulled pork. 3 of them went in the freezer and I couldn't tell a difference. I'd just get out all the air you can and you should be good to go. Just my $0.02 as I think you can find a better use for $150 in the world of smoking. Think of how many butts/racks of ribs/etc you can make for that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OLS (Post 1454412)
x2, freezer bags and pulled pork are fine and dandy. Sometimes it's even better after some time in the freezer,
cause you get to iintroduce more crispy element into it on the reheat if you wish.

Not for the pulled pork, but for when I buy whole tenderloins, strips, ribeye's, etc at Costco and cut them up into steaks to freeze for future use.

replicant_argent 10-28-2011 01:32 PM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BengalMan (Post 1456296)
Not for the pulled pork, but for when I buy whole tenderloins, strips, ribeye's, etc at Costco and cut them up into steaks to freeze for future use.

:tpd:
I have saved many times the cost of my Foodsaver by buying full primals at Costco and Sams and vac'ing portions, not to mention multitudes of other items.

OLS 10-28-2011 01:50 PM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
The true vacuum seal is great to keep frost from forming inside the package, but even that can't REALLY be stopped
100%. So Freezer bags are fine and realatively cheap. But a really good Vac Sealer is a nice luxury, too.

tupacboy 10-28-2011 03:05 PM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
hey pnoon.. did you brine your salmon before smoking?

found a link for a bradley and cold smoking salmon... http://forum.bradleysmoker.com/index.php?topic=55.0

pnoon 10-28-2011 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tupacboy (Post 1456445)
hey pnoon.. did you brine your salmon before smoking?

No.
I did a dry cure for 36 hours. I will post the recipe this weekend.
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pektel 10-28-2011 11:44 PM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Just got done putting the rub on tomorrow's pork butt. 7 pounder. Used:

1/8 cup pepper
1/4 cup paprika
1/4 cup salt
1/4 cup brown sugar
2T cayenne pepper
2T onion powder
2T garlic powder
1T basil
1t ground mustard
Unmeasured amounts of cumin, coriander, and sage.

Hopefully it's good. Just checked and I'm down to not much lump charcoal (under 2 pounds) and only a few chunks of applewood. Get to make a run into town early tomorrow morning with the kids. Probably going to serve homemade Mac and cheese with the pork.
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pnoon 10-28-2011 11:46 PM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pektel (Post 1456808)
Just got done putting the rub on tomorrow's pork butt. 7 pounder. Used:

1/8 cup pepper
1/4 cup paprika
1/4 cup salt
1/4 cup brown sugar
2T cayenne pepper
2T onion powder
2T garlic powder
1T basil
1t ground mustard
Unmeasured amounts of cumin, coriander, and sage.

Hopefully it's good. Just checked and I'm down to not much lump charcoal (under 2 pounds) and only a few chunks of applewood. Get to make a run into town early tomorrow morning with the kids. Probably going to serve homemade Mac and cheese with the pork.
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Rub sounds good to me, Peter. Let us know how it turns out.

pektel 10-28-2011 11:58 PM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
First time using this rub, Peter. Thanks for the confidence. The gf decided to throw a Halloween party tomorrow, so I'm cooking for a few guests as well. I'm pretty new to the smoker, but it's been a fun experience so far.
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pnoon 10-29-2011 12:04 AM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pektel (Post 1456830)
First time using this rub, Peter. Thanks for the confidence. The gf decided to throw a Halloween party tomorrow, so I'm cooking for a few guests as well. I'm pretty new to the smoker, but it's been a fun experience so far.
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Sounds delicious.

I was given this book by a very kind and generous inmate.
http://www.amazon.com/Paul-Kirks-Cha...9868041&sr=1-2

Worth its weight in gold.

pektel 10-29-2011 12:07 AM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
And thanks for the link. Going to order it now :D
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OLS 10-29-2011 03:21 PM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Remember the cardinal rule of smoking, since you are going for the guest-feeding routine....THIN, BLUE smoke,
no billowing white or gray smoke. Glad to see you are enjoying the cave-man's art...I know I never smoked
anything until about three years ago, and now I am addicted. it's such a great thing to have delicious
meat that tastes better than you can get in a lot of "barbecue" places and to have it last so long in the fridge
if you can't get to it fast enough. The magical smoke rocks.

GWN 10-30-2011 07:02 AM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Family coming over today.
Two racks of pork ribs the fridge I rubbed with Magic Dust last night.
Also planning to debone two whole chickens and stuff them with ham, provolone, spinach, mushrooms, onion and a little apple and top with bacon.
Rest of the bacon will be used for ABTs. :)

kydsid 10-30-2011 09:51 AM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
I know some have had bad luck with FoodSaver, I haven't and this is a great deal.

Foodsaver starter pack for $48, once you add it to your cart.

http://www.foodsaver.com/product.asp...urce=MainImage

jonumberone 10-30-2011 10:01 AM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kydsid (Post 1457625)
I know some have had bad luck with FoodSaver, I haven't and this is a great deal.

Foodsaver starter pack for $48, once you add it to your cart.

http://www.foodsaver.com/product.asp...urce=MainImage

Just ordered! :tu

Thanks for the heads up, Jason!

pnoon 10-30-2011 12:28 PM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tupacboy (Post 1456445)
hey pnoon.. did you brine your salmon before smoking?

found a link for a bradley and cold smoking salmon... http://forum.bradleysmoker.com/index.php?topic=55.0

Quote:

Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 1456451)
No.
I did a dry cure for 36 hours. I will post the recipe this weekend.
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As promised:

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=50507

This turned out really good.

replicant_argent 10-30-2011 03:32 PM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Shoulder rubbed with kosher salt, pepper, brown sugar and smoked paprika, wrapped and back in the fridge to rest tonight and into the smoker tomorrow morning. I think I may stuff some jalapenos with Italian sausage, panko, and grana padano and toss those on the empty racks for kicks and giggles. Maybe some wings too.

proguy747 10-31-2011 02:29 PM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by T.G (Post 1446598)
I typically use sharp cheddar and alder. Of all the cheeses and smoke wood combos that I tired, it yielded the best and most popular results.

It's pretty easy to do. All you need is a tin can, a weller soldering iron (other brands seem to burn up under this misuse) and some wood chips. Clean the grates on the grill or use pastry cooling racks to hold the cheese above the grate and load the can, stuff the iron in it, put it down at the bottom, let it run for 1-3 hours depending on how much smoke it's making, how thick the cheese is and smoky you like things. After you pull the cheese off, cool it down, then vacuum seal it and leave it alone for at least a week or so.

If you have any questions, feel free to shoot me a pm.

wow great and inexpensive way to cold smoke. I have been dreaming of getting a MAK 2star but this will keep those dreams away for awhile.

proguy747 10-31-2011 02:37 PM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Getting ready to head out and buy supplies for this weekends showdown.

LSU Alabama. Everyone wants Baby backs, i wanted brisket but they are paying so ribs it is. I have a local butcher that gets some great BB's the size of spares. Cost a little more but the pork has a clean taste that you cant get at the stores around here. Going with to rubs, one is my custom brown sugar based rub that everyone loves ( too sweet for me). Second is my favorite rib tickler. All smoked on my WSM with Hickory and cherry. Might have to get some pics up.

manny 10-31-2011 04:10 PM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/3688/smokeru.jpg

Seasoned with salt, pepper, mashed garlic, sour orange, and Mojo.

Placed in an oven bag for two days. smoked for 5 hours.

I should have let it smoked for more time, i need a two chamber smoker in order to control heat .

BengalMan 11-03-2011 08:39 PM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by manny (Post 1459034)
http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/3688/smokeru.jpg

Seasoned with salt, pepper, mashed garlic, sour orange, and Mojo.

Placed in an oven bag for two days. smoked for 5 hours.

I should have let it smoked for more time, i need a two chamber smoker in order to control heat .

brisket?

kydsid 11-04-2011 08:32 AM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Hey all question on Pork Shoulder?

To date I have only made pulled pork from pork butt's I got at the grocery store. Having a house warming with a few people so got the Costco Pork Shoulder double pack.

Do ya'll trim down the shoulder and just smoke the butt for pulled pork or just throw it all on the smoker and go hog wild?

kydsid 11-04-2011 08:35 AM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jonumberone (Post 1457627)
Just ordered! :tu

Thanks for the heads up, Jason!

You're welcome Dom. I have the quite older version of that same sealer. Had it for years. Only seal stuff maybe once a month. Hasn't let me down yet *Knock on wood*

pnoon 11-04-2011 08:36 AM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kydsid (Post 1463344)
Hey all question on Pork Shoulder?

To date I have only made pulled pork from pork butt's I got at the grocery store. Having a house warming with a few people so got the Costco Pork Shoulder double pack.

Do ya'll trim down the shoulder and just smoke the butt for pulled pork or just throw it all on the smoker and go hog wild?

:tu

Steve 11-04-2011 09:21 AM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Go for broke brother, throw it all on!

kydsid 11-04-2011 09:32 AM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
How can I not follow the advice of the BBQ MacGyver and a guy with one of the biggest BBQ Pits I know! :tu

kydsid 11-04-2011 09:34 AM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
On another note the old lady has been jonesing for Carolina pulled pork so I looked up a sauce at the BBQ Bretheren.

What do ya'll think and/or use yourself?

1 C Cider vinegar 1 T Brown sugar 1 t salt, or to taste ½ t Ground cayenne ½ t Ground black pepper

T.G 11-04-2011 11:02 AM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
I prefer a mustard or a lexington style sauce myself. For something simple like a spiced vinegar sauce similar to what you posted, I just use Suka Pinakurat brand Philippine spicy coconut vinegar that Benedic turned me on to.


Here's two good sauces that I have found:

Miss Piggy Mustard Sauce

1 cup Mustard
1/2 cup Sugar
1/2 cup Cider vinegar
1/4 cup Brown sugar, light
2 tablespoons Chili powder
1 teaspoon Pepper
1 teaspoon White pepper
1 teaspoon Cayenne pepper
1 tablespoon Hot sauce
1 teaspoon Soy sauce, dark
2 tablespoons Butter

Combine all ingredients except soy sauce and butter. Add the vinegar last. Add to your desired thickness.
Simmer for 10 minutes.
Remove from heat and add butter and soy sauce.


Lexington sauce
(I know, not a Carolina sauce)

1 c cider vinegar
1/4 c water
1/4 c ketchup
2 t Worcestershire sauce
1 T dark brown sugar
1/2 t cayenne pepper
1 t fresh ground black pepper
1 t salt
1/2 t chipotle pepper

Simmer 10 minutes.

forgop 11-04-2011 11:27 AM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
4 butts on the Traeger now. Just got the digital controller and auger motor replaced last night.

Smokin Gator 11-04-2011 12:38 PM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kydsid (Post 1463393)
On another note the old lady has been jonesing for Carolina pulled pork so I looked up a sauce at the BBQ Bretheren.

What do ya'll think and/or use yourself?

1 C Cider vinegar 1 T Brown sugar 1 t salt, or to taste ½ t Ground cayenne ½ t Ground black pepper

This is almost exactly what I use for my Carolina style sauce. The only difference is I use a heavy 1/2 tsp red pepper flakes instead of cayenne. Heat it up in a saucepan and put it in a squirt bottle. It keeps forever and seems to get better as it sits.

OLS 11-04-2011 12:38 PM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
I likes me some spices floating around in that vinegar, experiment a little.

Man I remember in NC one year we had a shop party pig pickin' and I was responsible for the sauce. I had tasted
a ton of NC style sauce from my many meals at Wilber's in Goldsboro, but when it came time to shop, I was lost.
I knew it had vineagar, and I knew that it had better be some kind of good vinegar, as I was not cleaning a floor
with it. By the time I finished adding stuff, it turned out to be a masterpiece. I can't say I PREFER a vinegar
slosh like those Carolinians, but I don't HATE it either. Good luck, make sure you float some good solids in there...
Make a couple of small jars and write down the contents of each. One will rise to the top!

It's GOT DANG SHOWTIME, BOYS....LSULSULSULSULSULSULSULSULSU....Whew I am worked up!
I am not usually a fan of fans chanting LSU, or USA for that matter. But in this case, it illustrates
my worked-upedness.

Steve 11-04-2011 12:46 PM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Smokin Gator (Post 1463604)
This is almost exactly what I use for my Carolina style sauce. The only difference is I use a heavy 1/2 tsp red pepper flakes instead of cayenne. Heat it up in a saucepan and put it in a squirt bottle. It keeps forever and seems to get better as it sits.

:tu:tu

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smokin Gator (Post 1463604)
It keeps forever and seems to get better as it sits.

:dr:dr Dat's the truth!

pektel 11-04-2011 12:57 PM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLS (Post 1457201)
Remember the cardinal rule of smoking, since you are going for the guest-feeding routine....THIN, BLUE smoke,
no billowing white or gray smoke. Glad to see you are enjoying the cave-man's art...I know I never smoked
anything until about three years ago, and now I am addicted. it's such a great thing to have delicious
meat that tastes better than you can get in a lot of "barbecue" places and to have it last so long in the fridge
if you can't get to it fast enough. The magical smoke rocks.

That's what I did (regarding smoke). BUT, I had a huge problem with temp off the bat. It was where it was supposed to be. Actually getting down to 225 by the time I was ready to put the butt on the grill. So I threw a few more pieces of lump coal on there, closed the intake almost completely, and opened the exhaust wide. I checked on it about 35 minutes later, and the temp was approaching 400 :eek: I ended up opening it up, removing some coals, and keeping an eye on it. It worked really well, but the damage had been done. It almost cooked the ouside of the butt too fast, so the smoke did not penetrate as far.

Only one person commented on it being "not as good as last time." But that particular person judges quality of the cook by intensity of the smoke flavor. I like to taste the meat, rub, AND smoke. But it was even too mellow for me to call it any amount of a success.

Oh well, it's all a learning process anyways.

GWN 11-04-2011 05:07 PM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Stoked about finally getting the side firebox for my CharGriller. It's a $69 unit but it would cost another $170 to ship here. Thankfully, a generous BOTL is visiting friends in MI this month, so I'm shipping to their place and he's bringing it back. Free shipping within the U.S.
Gonna have to learn to smoke all over again (been using the water pan method so far) but it's so worth it.

OLS 11-05-2011 08:24 PM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
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Hammered out a lil meat to celebrate the pounding Bama is going to suffer tonight. As I type this though, Jarrett lee is giving the ball away again, so he might be done tonight.
There was a barred owl in the pecan tree above my smoker who was not too happy about all the wood
smoke I was pouring into his napping spot. That's a good spot, too, lots of rats and squirrels in this
part of town. Came out late to take the meat off, and he was drinking from my pond waterfall and I scared
him back up into another tree where I got to take a good many more photos of him with another camera.

Steve 11-05-2011 08:54 PM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Very nice!!!

kydsid 11-05-2011 10:37 PM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Well was up at midnight last night to start the pork shoulders.


http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6230/...1cc85f7f6c.jpg
IMAG0081 by kydsid, on Flickr


Took them off at 10am this morning and into the cooler. Pulled and added the Carolina sauce. Thanks Brent for the tips. I made a mess of it but used a 1/4 Cayenne/Chili Flake/Adobo/Chili Powder to make the sauce. Turned out great.

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6118/...27a1c33eb5.jpg
IMAG0082 by kydsid, on Flickr


Also did some ribs and ABT's. Had the crew over for a herf and had great eats and great football. Was a good day, smoked a lot of meat and great cigars!

Steve 11-06-2011 05:52 AM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Looks pretty good to me...:dr

:tu:tu

Smokin Gator 11-06-2011 06:08 AM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Great lookin' yard runner Brad and killer lookin' butts Jason. I made the hot smoked wings and some ABTs yesterday. One of my favorite meals!!!

IndyRob 11-06-2011 06:53 AM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Smoked Chicken was the course of the night. Spent about 4hrs on the grill, came out tender, juicy and smoke-a-riffic!

I wish I had a full fledged smoker though. I use my 21" weber and obviously that has a few disadvantages. Mostly you have to babysit it quite a bit more often.

OLS 11-06-2011 02:50 PM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Indy, there is no need to worry too much about a proper smoker. I am handicapped a bit, too
in that I do not have anything but a grill. I just pile the heat and smoke on one third of my space
and meat on the other 2/3 and I do fine. It's also a little less trouble than a real smoker with a
separate firebox. The output is a little less consistent but in the end the meat it creates is downright
amazing. The point is to commit to practicing enough to work out any kinks the circular grill forces onto you.
There are a coupla smokers here who kick-a55 on a circular weber!

Sorry about my pic, it was taken right after I painted the ribs with SBR sauce, so it is not carmelized.
But man was that chicken purty. Plus when the ribs were finally black-purple, I was already demolishing them.

IndyRob 11-07-2011 07:53 AM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Ohhh worry not, I make do with my grill as a smoker! A Smokey Mountain is just on my wish list.

OLS 11-08-2011 08:45 AM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Mine takes a good lot of babysitting as well. TO ME, though babysitting is what grilling and smoking are about.
To be outside with the beer and nature while the family is dealing with each other, say at Thanksgiving
or Easter or whatever get together there is. Sometimes it's a PITA, too, though, but in the end,
we buy gear so we can enjoy cooking outdoors. I admire the set and forget crowd, but I have no burning
desire to be there with em. When you do all night smokes for large groups for money, or competitions,
sure, automation and consistent performance over time are where it's at. I like my little Char-Griller fine.

T.G 11-08-2011 09:46 AM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
I have a 21" Weber OTG that has a pair of firebricks and part of the lower grate sealed off and once it hits the temp I want to cook at, it doesn't seem to require any more baby sitting than really any other comparable sized non-power draft controlled smoker that I've used, in some cases, even less actually. It doesn't have the run time of a WSM without reloading though - 6-7 hours is about max on one load of fuel, but it holds considerably less fuel than a WSM...

pektel 11-16-2011 09:23 PM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Got a long time friend and his GF coming over Saturday night from out of town. Since its so close to thanksgiving, I'm going to smoke a couple turkey breath (bone in), thighs, and drumsticks. Whip up some cornbread stuffing and homemade Mac and cheese for the sides. Never smoked turkey parts before, do if anyone has any tips...
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T.G 11-16-2011 10:16 PM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pektel (Post 1476538)
Got a long time friend and his GF coming over Saturday night from out of town. Since its so close to thanksgiving, I'm going to smoke a couple turkey breath (bone in), thighs, and drumsticks. Whip up some cornbread stuffing and homemade Mac and cheese for the sides. Never smoked turkey parts before, [b][u]do if anyone has any tips...
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"...going to smoke a couple turkey breath (bone in), thighs, and drumsticks...."

Well, that's basically the whole turkey...

Try this... Alton Brown's recpie but cooked over mesquite.

But rather than an oven, load mesquite charcoal into your smoker and use it. No need to make smoke, if you are using mesquite lump, just mimic the oven temps that Alton calls for.

Typically, I wouldn't use mesquite in a smoker, but charcoal is a bit different... I've used Lazzari Mesquite Charcoal and it rocks. Never had a complaint yet.

pektel 11-16-2011 10:42 PM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Much thanks for the tips. I'll be checking it out now.
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forgop 11-16-2011 10:57 PM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by IndyRob (Post 1465177)
Smoked Chicken was the course of the night. Spent about 4hrs on the grill, came out tender, juicy and smoke-a-riffic!

I wish I had a full fledged smoker though. I use my 21" weber and obviously that has a few disadvantages. Mostly you have to babysit it quite a bit more often.

Have I got a setup for you...22.5" Weber Smokey Mountain and an iQue 110 controller. I'm in Indy and the smoker itself was new in April. Worked great, but I got sold on the idea of a Traeger and found a used one not too far from me.

LMK if you're interested. http://pitmasteriq.com/ for more info on the controller

New I have about $475 in it and then have a few bags of charcoal left over.


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