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stearns 06-21-2021 08:38 AM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
Had a very interesting whiskey on Saturday, a local place Leopold Brothers designed and built their own three chamber still, which apparently was popular pre-prohibition but hasn't been used in the last 50 years. They also grew their own rye that's a type that would have been used back then, and tried to replicate how things would have tasted. They hosted an open house (with access to the distiller and the still) for the release after being completely closed for the last year and a half, selling pours/bottles of the three chamber rye and giving free samples of everything else they make (mostly flavored stuff but a few nice bourbons and ryes). The whiskey was definitely worth $15 to try, I didn't bite on the $250 bottle but still really cool nonetheless. Visibly oily, coated your mouth in lavender and honey, some apple in there too, long finish for bottled in bond, if they open again to visitors I'll be going back to try to get another pour

https://youtube.com/watch?v=0NL2vimfbog&feature=share

https://i.postimg.cc/MZMr3vF8/PXL-20...-174945825.jpg

icehog3 06-21-2021 09:54 AM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
Very cool Ben! :tu

This weekend's pours....well, the ones at home anyway. ;) :al :r

https://i.imgur.com/KBD9o7U.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/YaaiLXY.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/vGUL5IW.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/kfq7XjL.jpg

longknocker 06-23-2021 11:02 AM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
Bought This At My Local ABC Store For $60 On Advice Of The "Bourbon Expert" There. Any Good???
https://i.imgur.com/fkNaZZGl.jpg

Porch Dweller 06-23-2021 03:09 PM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by longknocker (Post 2219723)
Bought This At My Local ABC Store For $60 On Advice Of The "Bourbon Expert" There. Any Good???
https://i.imgur.com/fkNaZZGl.jpg

I grabbed a bottle of that about a month or so ago but I haven't cracked it open yet.

longknocker 06-23-2021 03:48 PM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Porch Dweller (Post 2219727)
I grabbed a bottle of that about a month or so ago but I haven't cracked it open yet.

Let Me Know Your Thoughts, James!:D:tu

icehog3 06-23-2021 05:41 PM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
I'm not a big Dickel fan, Greg. The taste on the palate is good, but I couldn't get past the finish... Flintstone's Vitamins. Hope you like it better than I!

longknocker 06-24-2021 05:03 AM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 2219732)
I'm not a big Dickel fan, Greg. The taste on the palate is good, but I couldn't get past the finish... Flintstone's Vitamins. Hope you like it better than I!

Had A Pour Last Nite. I See What You Mean About The Finish. Had It Neat. Taste Profile Was Good, Sweet With Some Caramel. May Try With A Few Ice Cubes Next Time. Still Trying To Find My Favorite, Brother! Thanks For Your Thoughts!:D:tu

Brian D. 06-24-2021 06:21 AM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 2219732)
I'm not a big Dickel fan, Greg. The taste on the palate is good, but I couldn't get past the finish... Flintstone's Vitamins. Hope you like it better than I!

Don't be such a Schleprock! :r

longknocker 06-24-2021 07:51 AM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian D. (Post 2219747)
Don't be such a Schleprock! :r

Why Did I Not Know Who That Was??? I Watched The Flintstones Growing Up.:r:D:tu

longknocker 06-24-2021 07:59 AM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
Here's A Review That Pretty Well Describes My Impressions:
https://the-right-spirit.com/2021/04...single-barrel/

icehog3 06-24-2021 08:35 AM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by longknocker (Post 2219744)
Had A Pour Last Nite. I See What You Mean About The Finish. Had It Neat. Taste Profile Was Good, Sweet With Some Caramel. May Try With A Few Ice Cubes Next Time. Still Trying To Find My Favorite, Brother! Thanks For Your Thoughts!:D:tu

I am no expert, but if we have similar palates and I can always make recommendations Brother. Sounds like a winner. What proof is yours, the review you linked said the single barrels range from 84 to 103 proof. I can't even imagine drinking an 84 proof whiskey unless I mixed it with some 130 proof whiskey. ;) :r

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian D. (Post 2219747)
Don't be such a Schleprock! :r

That would be the Great Gazoo to you, Dum Dum. ;) :D

icehog3 06-24-2021 08:36 AM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
Last night's pours (along with just a nip of Booker's at the close).

https://i.imgur.com/bo8oc5a.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/vsoyCQi.jpg

longknocker 06-24-2021 02:14 PM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
I Believe Mine Is 93.4%. Any Recommendations For A Good $50 Or Less Bourbon?

icehog3 06-24-2021 04:13 PM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by longknocker (Post 2219784)
I Believe Mine Is 93.4%. Any Recommendations For A Good $50 Or Less Bourbon?

I am sure Ben can chime in here as well as some others.

Knob Creek Single Barrel 120 proof
Early Times Bottled in Bond
EH Taylor Small Batch

Or for a measly 10 bucks more

Elijah Craig Barrel Proof
Ezra Brooks Barrel Strength
Old Forester 1920

longknocker 06-24-2021 04:20 PM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 2219789)
I am sure Ben can chime in here as well as some others.

Knob Creek Single Barrel 120 proof
Early Times Bottled in Bond
EH Taylor Small Batch

Or for a measly 10 bucks more

Elijah Craig Barrel Proof
Ezra Brooks Barrel Strength
Old Forester 1920

:D:tu

Porch Dweller 06-25-2021 06:28 AM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by longknocker (Post 2219784)
I Believe Mine Is 93.4%. Any Recommendations For A Good $50 Or Less Bourbon?

I'm addition to Tom's:

Four Roses Small Batch
Old Grandad 114
Russell's Reserve 10
Wild Turkey 101 (yes, really :) )
Woodford Reserve

Steve 06-25-2021 07:00 AM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Porch Dweller (Post 2219805)
I'm addition to Tom's:

Four Roses Small Batch
Old Grandad 114
Russell's Reserve 10
Wild Turkey 101 (yes, really :) )
Woodford Reserve

OGD 114 is a great sleeper, and 101 is my "everyday" go to. Weekends, that's another story :D

Tonight I have my eye on a brand new bottle of Old Ezra or possibly hanging out with Col. Taylor.

big a 06-25-2021 07:41 AM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by longknocker (Post 2219784)
I Believe Mine Is 93.4%. Any Recommendations For A Good $50 Or Less Bourbon?

in addition to the others mentioned.

Buffalo Trace Store picks
New Riff single barrel and/ or store picks
Old Forrester 1910/1920 for a couple bucks more.

Steve 06-25-2021 07:47 AM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by big a (Post 2219811)
in addition to the others mentioned.

Buffalo Trace Store picks
New Riff single barrel and/ or store picks
Old Forrester 1910/1920 for a couple bucks more.

I'll second the OF 1920

icehog3 06-25-2021 10:50 AM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
Some great recommendations, James, Andrew, Steve. :tu

icehog3 06-25-2021 10:51 AM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
Killed a Canadian rye in honor of the Canadiens' victory last night.

https://i.imgur.com/1vGjKzS.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/aRImjWn.jpg

longknocker 06-25-2021 12:04 PM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
Thanks, All!:D:tu

Porch Dweller 06-25-2021 01:42 PM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
Visiting in-laws and picked this up at their B&M. Never tried it before but the price was right.

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/pictur...pictureid=9529

longknocker 06-25-2021 06:04 PM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
They Just Put Out "3" Bottles Of Knob Creek 120 Proof! Got One For $55!!!:D:noon:banger

https://i.imgur.com/oHXSvIkl.jpg

Porch Dweller 06-25-2021 07:03 PM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
Nice grab, Greg, never been disappointed by a KC.

icehog3 06-26-2021 09:18 AM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
Excellent Greg! :tu

Let us know how the WW is, James.

jledou 06-26-2021 08:11 PM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
Interested to see what you think James, I picked up a bottle about a month when it came more available in KC ago but have not tried it yet.

Watch around you Greg, I was able to pickup a bottle of OF 1920 here a few weeks ago for less than $50 in KC (Kansas tax is high) from a store that does one day discounts on Fridays. I didn't know about it until I signed up for the news letter.

On more to the list <$50 Four Roses Single Barrell is mostly available and a solid pickup.

Chainsaw13 06-26-2021 10:56 PM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jledou (Post 2219893)

On more to the list <$50 Four Roses Single Barrell is mostly available and a solid pickup.

I’ve been told that by a few friends also.

longknocker 06-27-2021 05:29 AM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
Thanks, Again, Everyone! :D Keep The Suggestions Flowing!:tu

stearns 06-28-2021 09:57 AM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
Knob Creek picks! Just got back from Vegas, everywhere had a KC pick and they were all the cheapest thing on the menu, $14 for a big pour of 120 proof when other drinks are $25 is a stupid steal, I've never run across one that didn't taste at least "good" if not "great+"

Don't have much to add that others haven't said, if you can get some young MGP (4-5 years) in that price range you won't be disappointed but those are getting to be harder to find, at least without some sort of premium on it.

Love me some Four Roses, I prefer the barrel strength picks but they're getting impossible to find as well (or crazy expensive). The regular 100 proof single barrel is a solid choice though, I tried a couple not too long ago and was really impressed with how different the profiles were, I had always looked past that one but am now convinced it's a really solid pour :tu

longknocker 06-28-2021 10:30 AM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stearns (Post 2219933)
Knob Creek picks! Just got back from Vegas, everywhere had a KC pick and they were all the cheapest thing on the menu, $14 for a big pour of 120 proof when other drinks are $25 is a stupid steal, I've never run across one that didn't taste at least "good" if not "great+"

Don't have much to add that others haven't said, if you can get some young MGP (4-5 years) in that price range you won't be disappointed but those are getting to be harder to find, at least without some sort of premium on it.

Love me some Four Roses, I prefer the barrel strength picks but they're getting impossible to find as well (or crazy expensive). The regular 100 proof single barrel is a solid choice though, I tried a couple not too long ago and was really impressed with how different the profiles were, I had always looked past that one but am now convinced it's a really solid pour :tu

Thanks, Ben!:D:tu So Four Roses Single Barrel Is A Good Every Day, But Barrel Strength Is Better If I Can Find It???

stearns 06-28-2021 10:37 AM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by longknocker (Post 2219937)
Thanks, Ben!:D:tu So Four Roses Single Barrel Is A Good Every Day, But Barrel Strength Is Better If I Can Find It???

In my opinion, yes. Things get deep fast when it comes to the barrel strength picks (they have 10 recipes, and 6 different floors they store on with higher floors typically being higher proof, and each combination of those produces a different profile) but if you can get one for under ~$90 (SRP) then the rest doesn't really matter. On the secondary market they usually start around $120+ and go up to $400+ for the right recipe and proof. I've tried all the recipes a couple times and in general the only thing you could discern between them blind is whether it's high rye ("B" recipes) or low rye ("E" recipes), the rest is all about how that specific single barrel tastes. For comparison, the 100 proof single barrels are all the same recipe (OBSV) and while they come from different floors/tiers, they are all watered down to the same 100 proof

stearns 06-28-2021 10:39 AM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
These are the 10 recipes, in general the descriptions are fine but when it comes to single barrels the original mash bill and yeast is only one small part of what influences the final taste profile

https://therightspiritcom.files.word...pes.jpg?w=1024

longknocker 06-28-2021 12:21 PM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
Wow, Ben! Too Complicated For My Senior Mind!:r:D:tu. I Found This:
Hopefully It's A Good One For Around $60.

https://i.imgur.com/j8HopHql.jpg

stearns 06-28-2021 12:29 PM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
I like the small batch select a lot, I always keep one around. It's a blend of 6 of their recipes (a balance of high rye and lower rye recipes) aged 6-7 years. Nice pickup!

FYI - Four roses posts a lot of detail about their offerings on their website: https://fourrosesbourbon.com/bourbon...-batch-select/

longknocker 06-28-2021 02:52 PM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stearns (Post 2219943)
I like the small batch select a lot, I always keep one around. It's a blend of 6 of their recipes (a balance of high rye and lower rye recipes) aged 6-7 years. Nice pickup!

FYI - Four roses posts a lot of detail about their offerings on their website: https://fourrosesbourbon.com/bourbon...-batch-select/

Thanks, Ben! :D Great Info!:tu

stearns 06-28-2021 02:53 PM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by longknocker (Post 2219947)
Thanks, Ben! :D Great Info!:tu

Extreme transparency is part of the reason I love Four Roses :)

longknocker 06-28-2021 03:25 PM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
One More Question: Any Decent Bourbons I Can Buy For "Every Day" That Are Less Than $50/Bottle???

stearns 06-28-2021 03:32 PM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
My everyday's include Buffalo Trace store picks ($25), Elijah Craig/Larceny store picks ($35), Early Times Bottled in Bond ($25), regular Knob Creek ($35), Rebel/Ezra store picks ($40). There are probably a few others but those are the ones I keep around off the top of my head

longknocker 06-28-2021 04:20 PM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stearns (Post 2219951)
My everyday's include Buffalo Trace store picks ($25), Elijah Craig/Larceny store picks ($35), Early Times Bottled in Bond ($25), regular Knob Creek ($35), Rebel/Ezra store picks ($40). There are probably a few others but those are the ones I keep around off the top of my head

Thanks, My Friend!:D:tu

Porch Dweller 06-28-2021 08:36 PM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 2219862)
Excellent Greg! :tu

Let us know how the WW is, James.

It's decent but unspectacular. It has a really nice caramel apple and pear nose. Unfortunately the nose is better than the taste. It's not bad, just a bit rough. It's a five year age statement; I'd like to try an eight year version when and if available to see how it improves.

icehog3 06-28-2021 09:25 PM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stearns (Post 2219951)
My everyday's include Buffalo Trace store picks ($25), Elijah Craig/Larceny store picks ($35), Early Times Bottled in Bond ($25), regular Knob Creek ($35), Rebel/Ezra store picks ($40). There are probably a few others but those are the ones I keep around off the top of my head

Some great recommendations, Ben. :tu

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porch Dweller (Post 2219953)
It's decent but unspectacular. It has a really nice caramel apple and pear nose. Unfortunately the nose is better than the taste. It's not bad, just a bit rough. It's a five year age statement; I'd like to try an eight year version when and if available to see how it improves.

Sorry it doesn't live up to its nose, James. :(

longknocker 06-29-2021 05:40 AM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 2219956)
Some great recommendations, Ben. :tu



Sorry it doesn't live up to its nose, James. :(

See My Pick-Up: Post#2734.:D:tu

Porch Dweller 06-29-2021 05:50 AM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 2219956)
Some great recommendations, Ben. :tu



Sorry it doesn't live up to its nose, James. :(

At around $40, it's still worth a try. If they started asking premium prices, I'd skip it. As a side note, it was Batch 74 that I had.

icehog3 06-29-2021 08:28 AM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by longknocker (Post 2219962)
See My Pick-Up: Post#2734.:D:tu

Nice, Greg, hope you enjoy it. I haven't had that one, only Four Roses I've had have been the single barrel picks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porch Dweller (Post 2219963)
At around $40, it's still worth a try. If they started asking premium prices, I'd skip it. As a side note, it was Batch 74 that I had.

Thanks James! :tu

Two 107 proof bottle kills last night. Thanks to Black Carl for the excellent Rebel pick.

https://i.imgur.com/uAytV5i.jpg

icehog3 06-29-2021 03:04 PM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
I got a cool set in trade today, I had never even seen one of these : "Booker's 2016 Batch Collection", which actually contains four 2015 batches in one giant Booker's box. Traded some nice stuff for it but came out way ahead, and yeah...Booker's is my jam.

https://i.imgur.com/9bySVmN.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/bMG1k6E.jpg

longknocker 06-29-2021 06:00 PM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 2219994)
I got a cool set in trade today, I had never even seen one of these : "Booker's 2016 Batch Collection", which actually contains four 2015 batches in one giant Booker's box. Traded some nice stuff for it but came out way ahead, and yeah...Booker's is my jam.

https://i.imgur.com/9bySVmN.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/bMG1k6E.jpg

Sweet Pick-Up, Brother!:D:tu

Porch Dweller 06-29-2021 07:26 PM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
Damn, nice!!!

longknocker 06-30-2021 03:33 AM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
Broke Open The Knob Creek Single Barrel Reserve Last Night. Smooth & Delicious!:dr. Thanks So Much For The Suggestion, Admiral!:tu:D

The camaro show 06-30-2021 07:05 AM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
Had a Buffalo trace Manhattan last night at dinner at Fagers Island in OC


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