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icehog3 08-30-2011 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by waffle (Post 1392436)
Tru.... Joe Morgan, Broadcaster, thinks Joe Morgan, Player, should be considered for the Hall of Fame... hell, if he got a vote, I'm sure he'd vote for him every year! Joe Morgan - the best player in baseball's history, just ask him!

Love it when he talks about himself in the 3rd person, Steve. :lr

waffle 08-30-2011 09:37 AM

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There is nothing more infuriating then listening to Joe Joe talk... "Well... when I played, this is how it was done".... "Joe Morgan wouldn't have let that ball through"... "Joe Morgan would have ridden that bomb a la Slim Pickens because thats the kind of team player Joe Morgan was."

And for the youngsters....


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icehog3 08-30-2011 09:42 AM

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Yer killin' me! :lr

waffle 08-30-2011 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1392466)
Yer killin' me! :lr

I try, I try :)

chippewastud79 08-30-2011 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1392442)
Love it when he talks about himself in the 3rd person, Steve. :lr

I would almost like to hear his radio show to hear him talk about how what he did in baseball would translate to other sports, in the third person of course. :gary

"When Joe Morgan was playing the Cubs in '74, I would have played a pop-up with the sun in my eyes just like DeSean should have fielded that punt."

"When Joe had a sore ankle, he rubbed dirt on it and didn't miss a ground ball, players these days could take a page from old Joe's book. " :confused:


Whom ever came up with the idea of allowing him to not only talk about baseball, but all sports must have been losing their job anyway. I am sure his discussion on the US Open or Ryder Cup will be just riveting. :td

Starscream 08-30-2011 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by chippewastud79 (Post 1392271)
A one hour sports radio show on Sports USA Radio Network? Does anyone even know who carries the show? Yeah, I wouldn't trade that in either. Frankly, he is a bad sports announcer/analyst/broadcater/journalist, any job he can hold is worth hanging on to I suppose. :confused:

He also works with the Reds too, in some sort of PR position (or at least he did at the beginning of the season).

Starscream 08-30-2011 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by chippewastud79 (Post 1391991)
I would hardly call that stealing signals. He took a step inside and coincidentally (maybe not) that is where Hannigan set up. Hannigan set up inside the next pitch and he didn't take the step. :confused:

It might be a little bush league, but it happens at every level of baseball. Hell, little leaguers point to where the catcher sets up. In the end knowing where the pitcher is set up helps you about as much as a corked bat, you still have to hit the ball. :2

Happens ALL the time, but you're not supposed to get caught. When you do, you or someone on the team pays the price.;)


BTW, there are a couple of recent studies that have come out saying that corked bats don't really help at all. When that study came out, I bet Albert Bell shed a tear or two.:D

chippewastud79 08-30-2011 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Starscream (Post 1392927)
Happens ALL the time, but you're not supposed to get caught. When you do, you or someone on the team pays the price.;)


BTW, there are a couple of recent studies that have come out saying that corked bats don't really help at all. When that study came out, I bet Albert Bell shed a tear or two.:D

Homer put one high and tight on Victorino. ;)

Last I had heard, Sports Science or someone concluded that it gives you about a 2-3% improvement on distance, about 10-12 feet on a homerun. But you still have to hit the baseball. :sh

chippewastud79 08-31-2011 09:17 AM

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Halladay owns the Reds. That was just plain dominating (again). :jd

Starscream 08-31-2011 07:13 PM

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reds suck...

elderboy02 08-31-2011 07:20 PM

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I can't wait to see our call-ups. I am excited to see Devin Mesorraco. Although I have heard that he is pretty fatigued at this point because he has played 100+ games so far.

chippewastud79 08-31-2011 09:55 PM

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Another over-hyped prospect on his way to the majors, lets see if he can be better than Stubbs and Janish. :hm

BigAsh 09-01-2011 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by chippewastud79 (Post 1393847)
Halladay owns the Reds. That was just plain dominating (again). :jd

Insert "Cliff Lee"....Watching the series and what shocks me is all the EMPTY seats!....Nice new ballpark, good team, and playing the best team in the majors, why no support?...

elderboy02 09-01-2011 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by BigAsh (Post 1394960)
Insert "Cliff Lee"....Watching the series and what shocks me is all the EMPTY seats!....Nice new ballpark, good team, and playing the best team in the majors, why no support?...

Because the Reds aren't winning.

I will be at the game this afternoon with the boss and his son. Watching the Reds > working :tu

chippewastud79 09-01-2011 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BigAsh (Post 1394960)
Insert "Cliff Lee"....Watching the series and what shocks me is all the EMPTY seats!....Nice new ballpark, good team, and playing the best team in the majors, why no support?...

Because most of Cincinnati (read: Homers) only care about the team if they are winning. ;)

BigAsh 09-01-2011 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by elderboy02 (Post 1395031)
Because the Reds aren't winning.

I will be at the game this afternoon with the boss and his son. Watching the Reds > working :tu

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Originally Posted by chippewastud79 (Post 1395042)
Because most of Cincinnati (read: Homers) only care about the team if they are winning. ;)

Really?..its baseball....I say get out and enjoy the experience!...btw, the Reds are only a couple games south of .500 right?...Not like they're the Mets!....



And enjoy the game Dan!!

chippewastud79 09-01-2011 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by BigAsh (Post 1395063)
Really?..its baseball....I say get out and enjoy the experience!...btw, the Reds are only a couple games south of .500 right?...Not like they're the Mets!....

If only it were that easy in Cincinnati. There are so many teams for people to claim are their favorites in this area. Everyone is a UC/XU/Ohio/Bengals/Louisville/UK/Reds fan when they are winning, if said team is not winning, they can move to a different team. Fans here, in general, are fickle and don't know/care much about sports other than if you are winning. :td

BigAsh 09-01-2011 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by chippewastud79 (Post 1395068)
If only it were that easy in Cincinnati. There are so many teams for people to claim are their favorites in this area. Everyone is a UC/XU/Ohio/Bengals/Louisville/UK/Reds fan when they are winning, if said team is not winning, they can move to a different team. Fans here, in general, are fickle and don't know/care much about sports other than if you are winning. :td

Opposite here...we'll still come out to the game if they're losing...just to boo!!

waffle 09-01-2011 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by BigAsh (Post 1395089)
Opposite here...we'll still come out to the game if they're losing...just to boo!!

I blame it squarely on the likes of one Mike Brown... when he openly admitted he makes just as much money when he loses than when he wins, fans just had enough... however, there is a certain homerism to be had... but I think its that way with all cities where there aren't the diehards who had it bred into them that they live with the team and die with the team...

However, I do agree, its a great time to get out to the game and watch... people don't realize what theyre missing until its gone.

BigAsh 09-01-2011 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by waffle (Post 1395158)
I blame it squarely on the likes of one Mike Brown... when he openly admitted he makes just as much money when he loses than when he wins, fans just had enough... however, there is a certain homerism to be had... but I think its that way with all cities where there aren't the diehards who had it bred into them that they live with the team and die with the team...

However, I do agree, its a great time to get out to the game and watch... people don't realize what theyre missing until its gone.

:tu

waffle 09-01-2011 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by BigAsh (Post 1395245)
:tu

I'm going on the 17th... drinking across the river then catching the ferry over... it'll be a blast!

BigAsh 09-01-2011 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by waffle (Post 1395258)
I'm going on the 17th... drinking across the river then catching the ferry over... it'll be a blast!

That's what I'm talking about!...good times with good friends, family, co-workers, etc.....if your team wins then BONUS!!....if not, gives you something to b!tch about on the way home, but your belly is still full of hot dogs, peanuts and crackerjacks!

Starscream 09-01-2011 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by elderboy02 (Post 1394525)
I can't wait to see our call-ups. I am excited to see Devin Mesorraco. Although I have heard that he is pretty fatigued at this point because he has played 100+ games so far.

He's the only prospect I really am interested in right now b/c he's gonna be our starter next year. Despite the hype we've heard about his defense, it looks pretty mediocre from the videos I've seen, but he's supposed to carry a decent bat. Nothing against Hernandez, but you can see him slowly falling off.

Good to see we dumped Hermida and DFA'd Lewis.:tu

We need some definite upgrades for the left side of the field next year. LF and third are gonna be major problems next season if we don't make some changes.
Heisey/Sappelt/Alonso in LF isn't good and Rolen/Frazier/Francisco/possibly Alonso at third isn't gonna be pretty either.

elderboy02 09-01-2011 09:18 PM

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I had to see Francisco today. God, he is still not very good. His swing is horrendous. If I was a pitcher, I would just throw breaking balls because his swing is so darn long. Every time he swung and missed, he fell over onto the plate.

elderboy02 09-01-2011 09:18 PM

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Also, Brook Jacoby needs to be fired. When you have Stubbs striking out all the time and you can't get him to adjust somehow, you have failed as a manager.

Starscream 09-01-2011 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by elderboy02 (Post 1395826)
I had to see Francisco today. God, he is still not very good. His swing is horrendous. If I was a pitcher, I would just throw breaking balls because his swing is so darn long. Every time he swung and missed, he fell over onto the plate.

Hellz yeah! You see, Adam? Dan can make posts here that aren't always homeristic statements.

I wrote Francisco off last year after his big league disaster. He hasn't been bad in the minors this year, but I see him as another EE at third. Mediocre hitter with bad defense, yet good pitching will wipe him out as well.

Dan is basically saying that Fransisco has the same swing as Stubbs, which is also about the same as Frazier and Sappelt. Way too long and trying to hit for power, yet they are not power hitters.

chippewastud79 09-01-2011 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Starscream (Post 1395831)
Hellz yeah! You see, Adam? Dan can make posts here that aren't always homeristic statements.

I wrote Francisco off last year after his big league disaster. He hasn't been bad in the minors this year, but I see him as another EE at third. Mediocre hitter with bad defense, yet good pitching will wipe him out as well.

Dan is basically saying that Fransisco has the same swing as Stubbs, which is also about the same as Frazier and Sappelt. Way too long and trying to hit for power, yet they are not power hitters.

It took 140 games, but he finally figured it out. :tu

waffle 09-02-2011 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by chippewastud79 (Post 1395970)
It took 140 games, but he finally figured it out. :tu

Better late than never!! And I agree... somebody needs to be exposed for that horrific strikeout king... if he's so fast, why isnt he ripping infield singles like its going out of style? Seriously, a ball in play between the pitcher and 3rd, he should get on about 75% of the time if his speed is what they say it is.

elderboy02 09-02-2011 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by waffle (Post 1396180)
Better late than never!! And I agree... somebody needs to be exposed for that horrific strikeout king... if he's so fast, why isnt he ripping infield singles like its going out of style? Seriously, a ball in play between the pitcher and 3rd, he should get on about 75% of the time if his speed is what they say it is.

Agreed. Maybe Jacoby should tell him to move up or back in the box. Something!

Starscream 09-02-2011 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by waffle (Post 1396180)
Better late than never!! And I agree... somebody needs to be exposed for that horrific strikeout king... if he's so fast, why isnt he ripping infield singles like its going out of style? Seriously, a ball in play between the pitcher and 3rd, he should get on about 75% of the time if his speed is what they say it is.

If they called for him to bunt for a hit more often, his speed would get him on base more times than not. But they don't seem to want to let the kid bunt.

waffle 09-02-2011 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Starscream (Post 1396351)
If they called for him to bunt for a hit more often, his speed would get him on base more times than not. But they don't seem to want to let the kid bunt.

Correction, the kid is TURRIBLE at bunting... when they give you the "swing away" sign and you're the first batter, a bunt is still considered a swing...he could take it upon himself, ESPECIALLY with the bases empty to lay down a bunt, but hes afraid to try because as the Cowboy has pointed out, that kid cant bunt worth a lick.

Starscream 09-02-2011 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by waffle (Post 1396531)
Correction, the kid is TURRIBLE at bunting... when they give you the "swing away" sign and you're the first batter, a bunt is still considered a swing...he could take it upon himself, ESPECIALLY with the bases empty to lay down a bunt, but hes afraid to try because as the Cowboy has pointed out, that kid cant bunt worth a lick.

Last year and earlier this year I would agree, but have you seen his attempts of recent? he's laid down some pretty good ones.

chippewastud79 09-02-2011 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Starscream (Post 1396535)
Last year and earlier this year I would agree, but have you seen his attempts of recent? he's laid down some pretty good ones.

Lets be honest, the kid isn't faster than most of the lead off hitters in the NL. Reyes, Victorino, Bourn, Weeks etc. all faster and can put down bunts for base hits on the reg. ;s

chippewastud79 09-02-2011 09:33 PM

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Reds Win! Reds Win! :tu :banger :D :noon :gary

icehog3 09-02-2011 09:55 PM

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21st win for Verlander! :wo

Oops, wrong thread. ;)

chippewastud79 09-02-2011 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1396948)
21st win for Verlander! :wo

Oops, wrong thread. ;)

Verlander is the ace every team wishes they had. He may single handedly be winning that division for the Tigers. :tu

icehog3 09-02-2011 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by chippewastud79 (Post 1396956)
Verlander is the ace every team wishes they had. He may single handedly be winning that division for the Tigers. :tu

Their record in games he has pitched in versus games he has not pretty much confirms that, Adam. :tu

elderboy02 09-03-2011 08:27 AM

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Reds win! Reds win! :banger :tu :banger :tu :)

Starscream 09-03-2011 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by chippewastud79 (Post 1396799)
Lets be honest, the kid isn't faster than most of the lead off hitters in the NL. Reyes, Victorino, Bourn, Weeks etc. all faster and can put down bunts for base hits on the reg. ;s

Not sure what this has to do with the argument? I never said he was the fastest player in the league. He is pretty darn fast, though.


To be honest, I am more than ok with him being on this team as long as Dusty realizes that Stubbs will be nothing more than a 6-8 hitter. We all know that he can't be a leadoff hitter b/c of his swing. Stubbs' numbers would be acceptable as a bottom of the order hitter on most MLB teams.

waffle 09-03-2011 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Starscream (Post 1397265)
Not sure what this has to do with the argument? I never said he was the fastest player in the league. He is pretty darn fast, though.


I like him 6-8 too, the biggest issue with him in Cincy was the fact that he was batting leadoff and couldnt get on base. Now that hes in the middle of the lineup, it works well. He's batting around what you could expect out a 6-8 batter and it gets him work while at the same time taking pressure off him of getting on base. Also, the speed in the end of the lineup is a nice jolt.
To be honest, I am more than ok with him being on this team as long as Dusty realizes that Stubbs will be nothing more than a 6-8 hitter. We all know that he can't be a leadoff hitter b/c of his swing. Stubbs' numbers would be acceptable as a bottom of the order hitter on most MLB teams.

chippewastud79 09-03-2011 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Starscream (Post 1397265)
Not sure what this has to do with the argument? I never said he was the fastest player in the league. He is pretty darn fast, though.


To be honest, I am more than ok with him being on this team as long as Dusty realizes that Stubbs will be nothing more than a 6-8 hitter. We all know that he can't be a leadoff hitter b/c of his swing. Stubbs' numbers would be acceptable as a bottom of the order hitter on most MLB teams.

He doesn't have to speed to bunt for a base hit on the reg. He is quick, can't get on base very well, so it negates a lot of the upside to the way he plays baseball. He would be a fabulous pinch runner the way he strikes out, that would give him significantly more SB attempts. :tu

chippewastud79 09-03-2011 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by waffle (Post 1397368)
I like him 6-8 too, the biggest issue with him in Cincy was the fact that he was batting leadoff and couldnt get on base. Now that hes in the middle of the lineup, it works well. He's batting around what you could expect out a 6-8 batter and it gets him work while at the same time taking pressure off him of getting on base. Also, the speed in the end of the lineup is a nice jolt.
To be honest, I am more than ok with him being on this team as long as Dusty realizes that Stubbs will be nothing more than a 6-8 hitter. We all know that he can't be a leadoff hitter b/c of his swing. Stubbs' numbers would be acceptable as a bottom of the order hitter on most MLB teams.

He really is an 8 hitter, if he gets on base the pitcher bunts him over and he can score on deep singles. :sh

chippewastud79 09-03-2011 10:24 PM

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Reds must have lost. :td

icehog3 09-03-2011 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by chippewastud79 (Post 1397750)
Reds must have lost. :td

No Dan sighting?

Let me help.

Tigers win! Tigers win! :banger :wo :noon :banger

chippewastud79 09-03-2011 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1397771)
No Dan sighting?

That was my first clue. ;)

Tigers pulled off a nice one tonight. Maybe I should cheer for them more hardily. Its tough not getting FSN Detroit in Cincinnati, I wish I could see the Tigers more often. They have better announcers on FSN Detroit too. Cutting away during the rain delay to see the Reds losing was kind of ironic, as I was reminded why watching the Tigers was always more fun. :tu

icehog3 09-03-2011 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by chippewastud79 (Post 1397787)
That was my first clue. ;)

Tigers pulled off a nice one tonight. Maybe I should cheer for them more hardily. Its tough not getting FSN Detroit in Cincinnati, I wish I could see the Tigers more often. They have better announcers on FSN Detroit too. Cutting away during the rain delay to see the Reds losing was kind of ironic, as I was reminded why watching the Tigers was always more fun. :tu

I think they put the nail in the Wite Sox' coffin tonight, and I don't think the Indians have the jiuce.

Unfortunately, I don't think the Tigers can get out of the AL unless their starting pitchers can all give them 7 innings a game....not just Verlander and Fister.

chippewastud79 09-03-2011 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1397803)
I think they put the nail in the Wite Sox' coffin tonight, and I don't think the Indians have the jiuce.

Unfortunately, I don't think the Tigers can get out of the AL unless their starting pitchers can all give them 7 innings a game....not just Verlander and Fister.

I concur. Sadly, it appears as if they are in line to be the Reds of last year in the AL this year. They just can't have Verlander start 3 games in a 5 game series. :tu

Starscream 09-04-2011 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by chippewastud79 (Post 1397409)
He doesn't have to speed to bunt for a base hit on the reg. He is quick, can't get on base very well, so it negates a lot of the upside to the way he plays baseball. He would be a fabulous pinch runner the way he strikes out, that would give him significantly more SB attempts. :tu

If they did that, we wouldn't need Arroyo anymore.:D

Starscream 09-05-2011 06:58 PM

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30 one run losses this season.
Only team that is beating us in that category is KC with 31.

chippewastud79 09-05-2011 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Starscream (Post 1398924)
30 one run losses this season.
Only team that is beating us in that category is KC with 31.

The opposite of last season when they pulled off a bunch of miracle wins in the last AB's. ;)

Win their first series of the season against the Cardinals and then follow it up by losing to the Cubs. :rolleyes:

They just don't like supporting Willis I think :td


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