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357 06-24-2011 11:46 AM

Re: NHL '10 - '11 Thread
 
Major realignment coming for 2012-13 season?

2 Conferences (15 teams each)
4 Divisions the Pacific, Midwest, East and South. (two with 8, two with 7) home-and-home against teams outside their division and top 4 from each division are in the playoffs.

Including Detroit and Columbus moving EAST!

http://aol.sportingnews.com/nhl/stor...2ef7b2662ee2e8

357 06-24-2011 12:14 PM

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Eastern Conference:

Eastern Division:
Boston
Buffalo
Detroit
Montreal
NY Rangers
NY Islanders
Toronto
Ottawa

Southern Division:
Carolina
Florida
New Jersey
Philadelphia
Pittsburgh
Tampa Bay
Washington


Western Conference

Mid-West Division:
Chicago
Colorado
Columbus
Dallas
Minnesota
Nashville
St. Louis

Pacific Division:
Anaheim
Calgary
Edmonton
Los Angeles
Phoenix
San Jose
Vancouver
Winnipeg

I didn't know how they planned to move both Detroit and Columbus east, but if only Detroit goes, I think this will be how it shakes out. :2

gpugliese 06-24-2011 12:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 357 (Post 1309607)
Major realignment coming for 2012-13 season?

2 Conferences (15 teams each)
4 Divisions the Pacific, Midwest, East and South. (two with 8, two with 7) home-and-home against teams outside their division and top 4 from each division are in the playoffs.

Including Detroit and Columbus moving EAST!

http://aol.sportingnews.com/nhl/stor...2ef7b2662ee2e8

Re-alignment issues aside, I'm curious how they will justify the 7 division teams having a better shot of making it into the top 4 than the 8 division teams.

Why not just take the top 2 or top 3 from each division and have the remaining 4 or 2 spots be "wild cards" for the remaining best records within the conference?

yourchoice 06-24-2011 12:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gpugliese (Post 1308409)
Flyers just uh, well, let's just say Holmgren fell off his rocker?

Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1308630)
That was some crazy chit today.

Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1308667)
Clearing space for Bryz, $51 over 9 years.

He may be a good goalie, but I think Philly gave away way too much to clear the space. :2

Man o man...I went to a concert last night and heard about this there. I can't figure it. I figured they were going to move Carter as they needed cap space, but didn't see them trading Richards. Wow.

icehog3 06-24-2011 01:11 PM

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The new NHL team in Winnipeg will go with what the city's original team was named -- the Winnipeg Jets, sources told ESPN.com Friday.

The team is expected to announce it Friday night at the NHL draft in St. Paul, Minn.


Ever since the announcement that the Atlanta Thrashers were moving to Winnipeg, fans have debated what to call the team. The overwhelming choice has been Jets -- what the team was called before it moved to Phoenix in 1996 and became the Coyotes. Other options included Winnipeg Falcons, Manitoba Falcons, and Manitoba Moose, which was the name of the AHL team there

357 06-24-2011 01:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gpugliese (Post 1309660)
Re-alignment issues aside, I'm curious how they will justify the 7 division teams having a better shot of making it into the top 4 than the 8 division teams.

Why not just take the top 2 or top 3 from each division and have the remaining 4 or 2 spots be "wild cards" for the remaining best records within the conference?

You could always contract Phoenix and Florida to make all 4 divisions have 7 teams. Then you could have a contraction draft to allow the remaining teams to pick up the talent. ;)

icehog3 06-24-2011 02:16 PM

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I heard Bettman is for expansion to 32 teams in the near future, not contraction.

357 06-24-2011 02:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1309796)
I heard Bettman is for expansion to 32 teams in the near future, not contraction.

That's possibly the worst idea ever.

357 06-24-2011 02:40 PM

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Although I don't mind Bettman's realignment plan (minus expansion), here's my take on ditching conferences altogther and picking 4 divisions. Top 16 teams by points, wins, h2h, etc make it into the playoffs. 1 vs 16, 2 vs 15, etc. Home & home vs everyone, 2 x h&h for division, split up the rest of the games.

Here's my idea of the 4 divisions...

Great Lakes
BUF
CHI
CLB
DET
MIN
MTL
OTT
TOR

Western
ANA
CAL
EDM
LA
PHX
SJ
VAN
WIN

Atlantic
BOS
NJ
NYI
NYR
PHI
PIT
WAS


Southern
CAR
COL
DAL
FLA
NSH
STL
TB

Take a look at this fan-map. It's where I derived my divisions from. Note, Winnipeg is still listed as ATL and please forgive the stupid title, I didn't create it.

http://broadstreetbuzz.com/files/2011/06/nhl-maps.png

icehog3 06-24-2011 02:43 PM

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That would be fun, Mike, if they are gonna re-align, go big time. :r

Don't think it's too likely though. :hn

357 06-24-2011 02:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1309821)
That would be fun, Mike, if they are gonna re-align, go big time. :r

Don't think it's too likely though. :hn

Not likely, but I think it would work well. Rivalries are there, travel would be reduced...a man can dream :r


I think a lot of the problem with aligning the NHL is that almost 3/4 of the teams are in the Eastern & Central timezones, and the West is geographically dispersed. Not to mention rivalries, original 6 considerations, and the fact Bettman is an idiot.

Ahbroody 06-24-2011 05:03 PM

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I hate the travel argument as I want to see more travel not less.
Part of my reason for not getting season tickets this year is I am done watching pacific teams 6 damn times each in one season. I get to see Eastern teams often once every 2 years and the Ducks too many damn times.

A balanced schedule would be nice.

taltos 06-24-2011 06:49 PM

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Nice pick by the Bruins in the draft. I was surprised to see Hamilton fall to #9.

Ahbroody 06-24-2011 07:41 PM

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Huh. I think San Jose just over paid with that trade for a defenseman.

icehog3 06-24-2011 09:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ahbroody (Post 1310129)
Huh. I think San Jose just over paid with that trade for a defenseman.

I know you like Devin, I do too....but Burns is solid. :2

Hawks trade Brower for a pick (I was sure he wasn;t going to be back), then shed 4.1 MIL is salary by trading Campbell to Tallon's Panthers for Olesz. A downgrade for sure, but between Troy, Brian and the salary cap bump, they have $12 MIL per year to lock up Patrick Sharp and sign some FAs.

Ahbroody 06-24-2011 10:07 PM

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If it was straight up or Seto and this years pick okay, but Coyle was a stud this year and some of us fans thought he had a bright future. Played on US Jr team last year as well.

Seto signed for 3 years Burns is a UFA after this season. Seto is only 24 also.

Nice ditching soupys K. Wish Sharks could move Heatley. Seto package was only way I saw that happening so now Sharks are stuck with that also.

Ahbroody 06-24-2011 10:20 PM

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Ohh I agree Burns is solid big puck moving Dman whos a righthand shot. I think hes a good Dman, but also has a concussion history.

Just hope this works out and hes with yhe club more then 1 year. Going to really sting if that happens.

icehog3 06-24-2011 10:27 PM

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Not familiar with Coyle, thanks for the heads up.

Trade Burns straight up for Rostislav Olesz? :D

GreekGodX 06-25-2011 09:41 AM

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So many trades! Hawks dumped a bunch of salary. Campbell was getting overpaid so I thought that was a good move.

Sharks getting a big upgrade on D. It is kinda tough giving up Setogutchi though in what could just be a year rental.

Wings again trade their first round pick, for additional second rounders. Gotta checkout who these new guys are.

E.J. 06-25-2011 10:26 AM

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Gabriel Landeskog

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtVG7KMhjxc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ur1UzjL5ljs

icehog3 06-25-2011 12:57 PM

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Hawks got Saad mid 2nd round, he was rated as high as #6 before his groin injury. Could be a sleeper! :tu

GreekGodX 06-26-2011 02:28 PM

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Quote:

Reports: NHL to realign for 2012-13

ESPN.com news services

The return of the Winnipeg Jets to the NHL will create a ripple effect throughout the league with a dramatic realignment for the 2012-13 season as a result, multiple media outlets have reported.

Winnipeg, which is the new home of the relocated Atlanta Thrashers, will play the upcoming 2011-12 season in the Eastern Conference's Southeast Division despite being 70 miles north of Minnesota.

The Jets' division features the Tampa Bay Lightning, Washington Capitals, Florida Panthers and Carolina Hurricanes.

With Western Conference teams Detroit, Nashville and Columbus hoping to be relocated to the East, the NHL has opted to realign the entire league rather than shifting Winnipeg, according to the Sporting News.

The purveying plan seeks to divide the league into four divisions -- two with eight teams and two with seven teams. The plan will likely be finalized at December's Board of Governors meeting.

Commissioner Gary Bettman hinted at changes to come in his annual state-of-the-NHL address before the Stanley Cup finals opener earlier this month.

"All those clubs need an opportunity to be heard," Bettman said. "That's a process we'll go through the first half of next season, looking at the issues that clubs want to raise, looking at various possibilities, and trying to figure out what will make the most sense moving forward."
:hm

icehog3 06-26-2011 02:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GreekGodX (Post 1312439)
:hm

'zactly.

357 06-27-2011 01:37 PM

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Follow the money. If travel costs is really the deal breaker, it'll be reflected in the final outcome.

icehog3 06-27-2011 03:31 PM

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http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/fp/fl...&pollId=115877

Prefy 06-27-2011 09:02 PM

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Its been quite and exciting off season so far, especially with the Jets returning to the NHL.

As a Winnipeger it has been pretty surreal experience.

To add to everything I have had a surreal experience of my own in the last month. On May 27th I signed a contract with the Chicago Blackhawks to be the Video Coach for their American Hockey League affiliate in Rockford!

I realized at quite an early age that I wasn't going to play hockey as a profession but it took me two years of pursuing a degree in Microbiology to realize that I could still work in the sport. With an abrupt change in career paths three years of schooling pursuing a degree in Sport Management, countless hours of volunteering and a year long internship I can now say that I have realized part of my dream!

I have to report to Chicago August 29th, to get things rolling for the Blackhawks rookie tournament and training camp and I really don't things will sink in until then. I do know one things for sure, I have never wanted a summer to go by faster then this one! :D

I thought I would share with you guys because you are all passionate about hockey and I figured you would appreciate it!:ih

icehog3 06-27-2011 09:57 PM

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I see a herf in order in late August. ;)

Eleven 06-27-2011 10:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1314445)
I see a herf in order in late August. ;)

Mini-Herf in November when my kid's team comes up for the Bauer International Invite Nov 3-6!

-(P

yourchoice 06-27-2011 10:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Prefy (Post 1314386)
To add to everything I have had a surreal experience of my own in the last month. On May 27th I signed a contract with the Chicago Blackhawks to be the Video Coach for their American Hockey League affiliate in Rockford!

...I have realized part of my dream!

That is awesome! Congrats, Matt!

icehog3 06-27-2011 10:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Eleven (Post 1314467)
Mini-Herf in November when my kid's team comes up for the Bauer International Invite Nov 3-6!

-(P

:banger

icehog3 06-27-2011 10:29 PM

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Quote:

The Chicago Blackhawks traded the rights to forward Tomas Kopecky to the Florida Panthers on Monday, days before he was set to become an unrestricted free agent
Just 8 left from the 2010 Cup winning roster.

Ahbroody 06-28-2011 12:42 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1314501)
Just 8 left from the 2010 Cup winning roster.

Was going to make a Marlins reference but right now thats still better then the Sharks. :r

Bruins Fan 06-28-2011 03:37 AM

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Salary dumping when the cap is going up that must make good talk radio?

357 06-28-2011 08:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Prefy (Post 1314386)
Its been quite and exciting off season so far, especially with the Jets returning to the NHL.

As a Winnipeger it has been pretty surreal experience.

To add to everything I have had a surreal experience of my own in the last month. On May 27th I signed a contract with the Chicago Blackhawks to be the Video Coach for their American Hockey League affiliate in Rockford!

I realized at quite an early age that I wasn't going to play hockey as a profession but it took me two years of pursuing a degree in Microbiology to realize that I could still work in the sport. With an abrupt change in career paths three years of schooling pursuing a degree in Sport Management, countless hours of volunteering and a year long internship I can now say that I have realized part of my dream!

I have to report to Chicago August 29th, to get things rolling for the Blackhawks rookie tournament and training camp and I really don't things will sink in until then. I do know one things for sure, I have never wanted a summer to go by faster then this one! :D

I thought I would share with you guys because you are all passionate about hockey and I figured you would appreciate it!:ih

Congrats Matt! Glad to hear your dreams are coming true. I wish you the best going forward.

Prefy 06-28-2011 09:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1314445)
I see a herf in order in late August. ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eleven (Post 1314467)
Mini-Herf in November when my kid's team comes up for the Bauer International Invite Nov 3-6!

-(P

For-sure on both accounts! I still need to smoke a celebratory cigar (I'm sure that won't be the case by then though:D)

Quote:

Originally Posted by yourchoice (Post 1314498)
That is awesome! Congrats, Matt!

Quote:

Originally Posted by 357 (Post 1315103)
Congrats Matt! Glad to hear your dreams are coming true. I wish you the best going forward.

Thanks Guys! If you guys are ever in my neck of the woods or vice versa I'll have a few tickets waiting! :tu

Prefy 06-28-2011 09:43 PM

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Back on the NHL front...to me it seems like this has been one of the busiest starts to an off-season in recent memory!

Should be interesting to see what happens with Stamkos in a couple days. I'd throw and offer sheet his way if he isn't signed come July 1st.

Ahbroody 06-28-2011 10:40 PM

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Well done Matt.

icehog3 06-28-2011 11:59 PM

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Quote:

The Pittsburgh Penguins have offered Jaromir Jagr a one-year deal and the 39-year-old winger has until Wednesday to decide if he wants to take it, general manager Ray Shero told the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette on Tuesday.
:ih

Sawyer 07-01-2011 09:06 AM

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Richards back to Tampa? That would be awesome.

Quote:

Richards, who wants a long-term deal to "get some security and settle into a place I want to go," did not shoot down a suggestion he might be willing to take less salary to return to Tampa Bay, in an interview with the St. Petersburg Times

Bruins Fan 07-01-2011 05:53 PM

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Bruins say goodbye to Michale Ryder,and sign Benoit Pouliot from the Habs.
It will be interesting how he is welcomed? This guy tried to take Johnny Boychucks head off with a flying elbow to the head in the playoffs.
Pouliot was drafted number four in 05 but has been a dud so far.
We will see?

yourchoice 07-01-2011 06:37 PM

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My Flyer's head is spinning... Jagr, Talbot, Lilja in...Versteeg out. Leino signs with Buf. Let alone last week's activity. It' going to take me half of the season to figure out who's who! :r
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Angus 07-01-2011 08:02 PM

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As a Penguins season ticket holder and die-hard fan.....I can honestly say that Jaromir Jagr is now the all-time most hated sports athlete that has ever played in Pittsburgh, beating out Barry Bonds. :sl

Joel, you'll love Talbot. Great character guy, awesome on the PK and big goals in clutch times. Don't expect a lot of goals from him.

Matt....Congratulations, that's awesome. Good luck brother :tu

icehog3 07-01-2011 10:01 PM

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Montador. O'Donnell. Brunette. Carcillo. Mayers.

Hawks got tougher, and will have some veteran leadership on the 3rd and 4th lines. I like it. :tu

Ahbroody 07-02-2011 12:56 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1061103)
Mayers is a punk. :2

I know you love jamal. :r

icehog3 07-02-2011 07:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ahbroody (Post 1320621)
I know you love jamal. :r

He is a Blackhawk now! :r :r

Could have been worse....coulda been Raffi Torres.

GreekGodX 07-02-2011 09:49 AM

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Wings sign Mike Commodore, not going to replace Rafalski by any means but adds a D guy to the 5th or 6th spot. Looks like we'll probably end up throwing money at Tomas Kaberle, Bryan McCabe, or Ian White. We'll see what happens. We resigned Jonathon Ericsson which I'm not too excited about. He's getting a huge raise and I think he regressed last season. Expectations are high for him to move up in the D rotation.

Brad Richards also finalized his final 4, no winged wheel for him but I don't think there was ever interest on his side.

Sawyer 07-02-2011 09:57 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GreekGodX (Post 1320935)
Wings sign Mike Commodore, not going to replace Rafalski by any means but adds a D guy to the 5th or 6th spot. Looks like we'll probably end up throwing money at Tomas Kaberle, Bryan McCabe, or Ian White. We'll see what happens. We resigned Jonathon Ericsson which I'm not too excited about. He's getting a huge raise and I think he regressed last season. Expectations are high for him to move up in the D rotation.

Brad Richards also finalized his final 4, no winged wheel for him but I don't think there was ever interest on his side.

No lightning bolt either. :td

Bruins Fan 07-02-2011 10:11 AM

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The rumor mill is churning in Boston, Chiarelli is being asked if he would consider an offer sheet to Steven Stamkos.
I would love to see it but it's more like reporters stirring the pot :r

icehog3 07-02-2011 10:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GreekGodX (Post 1320935)
Looks like we'll probably end up throwing money at Tomas Kaberle. Brad Richards also finalized his final 4, no winged wheel for him but I don't think there was ever interest on his side.

Big mistake...he is worthless at this point. :2

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sawyer (Post 1320944)
No lightning bolt either. :td

He is a Ranger for the next 9 years. Ho hum.

ahc4353 07-02-2011 11:17 AM

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As a Ranger fan I'm very happy how forwards are looking. :)


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