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HailTheBrownLeaf 07-11-2016 07:53 PM

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Thanks fellas :)

WhiteMamba 07-12-2016 11:57 PM

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Just smoke them now then you will know they're good :)

HailTheBrownLeaf 07-13-2016 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by WhiteMamba (Post 2094553)
Just smoke them now then you will know they're good :)

Shhh...I'm trying to learn patience. :)


At least I know (by their own verbal admission when I was in there on Monday talking with the owner in their walk-in humidor) that my local B&M sells their sticks pretty moist. So I'm trying to be patient for at least a few weeks, and am attempting to let my Boveda packs in my ziplock baggies do their thing.

Which brings me to another question. I know that once I get my Tuppador (hopefully next month) up and going that I will need to "burp" (or leave it open for like an hour) once a week to let the gasses out and let fresh air in.

Should I open my ziplocks to let gasses out or fresh air in once a week (until I get my Tuppador) or do I just leave them sealed with my sticks and Boveda inside and open them only if I want a cigar??

AdamJoshua 07-13-2016 07:56 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HailTheBrownLeaf (Post 2094573)
Shhh...I'm trying to learn patience. :)


At least I know (by their own verbal admission when I was in there on Monday talking with the owner in their walk-in humidor) that my local B&M sells their sticks pretty moist. So I'm trying to be patient for at least a few weeks, and am attempting to let my Boveda packs in my ziplock baggies do their thing.

Which brings me to another question. I know that once I get my Tuppador (hopefully next month) up and going that I will need to "burp" (or leave it open for like an hour) once a week to let the gasses out and let fresh air in.

No leave everything sealed until you are going to smoke something. The only thing opening a humidor, winador, tuppador, etc., does is change the humidity.

Should I open my ziplocks to let gasses out or fresh air in once a week (until I get my Tuppador) or do I just leave them sealed with my sticks and Boveda inside and open them only if I want a cigar??

Same as above, no need to open anything.

Some comments inline.

Also if your B&M sells the sticks too moist you might actually want to dry box them for a bit so they actually come down in humidity and aren't too wet for you. There are many threads on dry boxing here.

HailTheBrownLeaf 07-17-2016 11:47 PM

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Would having two 69% Boveda packs be overkill for a ziplock bag with only 5 cigars currently resting inside it???

I ask because I just smoked my last stick from the baggie of various sticks I bought a month ago at my B&M (with a 69% Boveda pack) and now it's just the Boveda pack left in that bag. Should I put that month old Boveda pack in my other ziplock bag with the 5 cigars that I bought a week ago?

The bag I bought last week already has another 69% Boveda in there so would adding that second one from a month ago be too much? I don't wanna waste the month old Boveda (if I don't have to) so I thought I'd ask here...

Wharf Rat 07-18-2016 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by HailTheBrownLeaf (Post 2095023)
Would having two 69% Boveda packs be overkill for a ziplock bag with only 5 cigars currently resting inside it???

I ask because I just smoked my last stick from the baggie of various sticks I bought a month ago at my B&M (with a 69% Boveda pack) and now it's just the Boveda pack left in that bag. Should I put that month old Boveda pack in my other ziplock bag with the 5 cigars that I bought a week ago?

The bag I bought last week already has another 69% Boveda in there so would adding that second one from a month ago be too much? I don't wanna waste the month old Boveda (if I don't have to) so I thought I'd ask here...

It should be fine to put both Bovedas together. Look at it this way - each bag has to work half as much.

HailTheBrownLeaf 07-20-2016 03:20 AM

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Yep I went ahead and did it lol.

luther 07-24-2016 10:40 PM

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I just purchased a second humidor (small Savoy) and am currently seasoning it with two 84% Boveda packs. I have never used the Boveda packs before. They have been in the new humi for two days and the hygrometer has not moved past 60. Normal? I plan on leaving the 84% packs in for two weeks and then switching to 72%. Thx!

AdamJoshua 07-24-2016 10:44 PM

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Sounds about right, is it the seasoning kit or whatever they sell?

Welcome to the Asylum!

luther 07-24-2016 10:52 PM

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There wasn't a start up kit. The guy at the shop just said to leave the 84% in for two weeks and then switch. I assume the humidity will eventually creep up?

pnoon 07-24-2016 11:24 PM

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Is your hygrometer analog or digital? If it's analog, trash it and get yourself a digital.
Then calibrate it using the salt test.

luther 07-24-2016 11:31 PM

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It is analog and built into the humidor. I have a digital in my other humi. Will probably get another digital. Do you know if I can take the built in analog out and replace it with a digital or am I better off leaving it and simply putting the digital one inside the humidor? Thx folks-appreciate the feedback.

pnoon 07-25-2016 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by luther (Post 2095694)
It is analog and built into the humidor. I have a digital in my other humi. Will probably get another digital. Do you know if I can take the built in analog out and replace it with a digital or am I better off leaving it and simply putting the digital one inside the humidor? Thx folks-appreciate the feedback.

Leave the analog alone. Just get yourself another digital.

And make sure you calibrate them.

HailTheBrownLeaf 08-04-2016 12:47 AM

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Well I got my 7L Klip-It and cedar trays from Amazon yesterday to make my first tupperdor.

Should I season the trays today or do I (or should I) wait until I get my 65% Bovedas that I will be using from now on as well as the hygrometer that I ordered from Canada Humidor? My package with the 65% Bovedas and hygrometer from Canada Humidor should be here on Monday....

See to season the trays I was gonna spray them with a spray bottle of DW just enough for the wood to darken (I think) then you let them dry and then you spritz them again don't you???

That's how you easily season the trays am I right??

CigarNut 08-04-2016 06:03 AM

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You should season the trays -- treat them like you would treat a wooden humidor. Season the trays inside your Tupperware container using a damp sponge (distilled water). There are a number of threads here that can provide more details on seasoning, but the key point is not to rush it -- give the trays a week or two to properly season.

Zane 08-04-2016 07:01 AM

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CigarNut Nailed it. If you don't season them they will absorb all the humidity they can the moment you introduce them to the enviroment.

HailTheBrownLeaf 08-07-2016 04:30 PM

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When spritzing the trays and wiping them down I assume I spritz and wipe down absolutely all of it right?

The sides, all of the outside, every part of the inside inside, even the bottom of the tray right??

AdamJoshua 08-07-2016 04:40 PM

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I've never sprayed water directly on shelves, I've only seasoned them like a small humidor with distilled water. I put them in an airtight area with a shot glass (or more) of distilled water. I'll let someone more knowledgable answer, but for me personally I was always worried about too much water being absorbed and the wood warping or swelling too much to where there isn't a good fit.

Again, I'm sure someone with more knowledge will post :tu

Brlesq 08-07-2016 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by AdamJoshua (Post 2097211)
I've never sprayed water directly on shelves, I've only seasoned them like a small humidor with distilled water. I put them in an airtight area with a shot glass (or more) of distilled water. I'll let someone more knowledgable answer, but for me personally I was always worried about too much water being absorbed and the wood warping or swelling too much to where there isn't a good fit.

Again, I'm sure someone with more knowledge will post :tu

I've seasoned about 2 dozen desktops and a couple of cabinets by wetting a papertowel with distilled water and rubbing them down, then using the shot glass method. It has never caused a problems for me, and you can tell they are much cleaner by the amount of red micro sawdust that is collected on the wet papertowel. (Spanish cedar sawdust has a reddish hue to it.)

AdamJoshua 08-07-2016 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Brlesq (Post 2097218)
I've seasoned about 2 dozen desktops and a couple of cabinets by wetting a papertowel with distilled water and rubbing them down, then using the shot glass method. It has never caused a problems for me, and you can tell they are much cleaner by the amount of red micro sawdust that is collected on the wet papertowel. (Spanish cedar sawdust has a reddish hue to it.)

See i knew someone that knew better would post, thanks for the input :tu

HailTheBrownLeaf 08-07-2016 07:53 PM

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If I was to do the shot glass method do I need to wait until I get my Bovedas tomorrow or can I go ahead start tonight by putting DW in a shot glass or two with the trays stacked on top of each other in my Klip-It?

Would both trays season properly at the same time if I have one stacked on top of the other inside my Klip-It??

CigarNut 08-07-2016 08:36 PM

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You do not need to wait for the Boveda packs. A sponge is better than a shot glass, if you have one as the sponge has more surface area.

HailTheBrownLeaf 08-07-2016 08:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AdamJoshua (Post 2097219)
See i knew someone that knew better would post, thanks for the input :tu

Quote:

Originally Posted by CigarNut (Post 2097226)
You do not need to wait for the Boveda packs. A sponge is better than a shot glass, if you have one as the sponge has more surface area.

Ok so how do I do this sponge method? Walk me through step by step please. :)

My brain hurts from all these different methods for different folks. I'm confused lol.

HailTheBrownLeaf 08-07-2016 09:13 PM

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I assume these sponges would work perfect yes?

http://www.walmart.ca/en/ip/scotch-b.../6000016953173

I've never bought sponges in my life so I wanna make sure those would work lol.

AdamJoshua 08-07-2016 10:25 PM

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Yes any sponge, as long as they aren't pre-soaped. All you do is soak the sponge in distilled water and put it on a small plate inside whatever you are trying to season. Close it up and leave it closed, check the sponge in a couple days to see if it dried out, if it did re-soak it. The reason sponges are better than the shot glass method is that there is more surface area on the sponge.

:tu

Grey Goose 08-07-2016 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Brlesq (Post 2097218)
I've seasoned about 2 dozen desktops and a couple of cabinets by wetting a papertowel with distilled water and rubbing them down, then using the shot glass method. It has never caused a problems for me, and you can tell they are much cleaner by the amount of red micro sawdust that is collected on the wet papertowel. (Spanish cedar sawdust has a reddish hue to it.)

Paper towels get torn up on the grain of the wood IME, and leave paper towel residue bits, even on the smooth cedar in humidors, I prefer wiping them down with cotton rags like they sell for gun cleaning patches, etc...

HailTheBrownLeaf 08-07-2016 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by AdamJoshua (Post 2097235)
Yes any sponge, as long as they aren't pre-soaped. All you do is soak the sponge in distilled water and put it on a small plate inside whatever you are trying to season. Close it up and leave it closed, check the sponge in a couple days to see if it dried out, if it did re-soak it. The reason sponges are better than the shot glass method is that there is more surface area on the sponge.

:tu

Oh ok cool.

So I soak the entire sponge, wring it out a bit, and put it on a plate in one of my cedar trays?

Since I'll be using 2 cedar trays inside a 7 litre Klip-It as a Tupperdor will both trays season at the same time if I have one stacked on top of the other??

HailTheBrownLeaf 08-08-2016 11:34 AM

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So I just got my Western Caliber IV hygrometer in the mail plus my Boveda hygrometer calibration kit.

How do I use them? I haven't taken the hygrometer out of the box yet.

Dux 08-08-2016 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by HailTheBrownLeaf (Post 2097299)
So I just got my Western Caliber IV hygrometer in the mail plus my Boveda hygrometer calibration kit.

How do I use them? I haven't taken the hygrometer out of the box yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBEQ2jdwIHU

HailTheBrownLeaf 08-08-2016 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Dux (Post 2097310)

Got it going on my own before I saw this.

I think now I will start seasoning my trays tonight with the "sponge soaked in DW on a plate" method.

How wet do I wet the sponge? I assume I wring it out a bit before putting it on the plate?

Wharf Rat 08-08-2016 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by HailTheBrownLeaf (Post 2097321)
Got it going on my own before I saw this.

I think now I will start seasoning my trays tonight with the "sponge soaked in DW on a plate" method.

How wet do I wet the sponge? I assume I wring it out a bit before putting it on the plate?

It's not critical. The plate is meant to catch any water that drips out, right?

AdamJoshua 08-08-2016 04:58 PM

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I was going to say, a shot glass of water is pretty wet :lr

HailTheBrownLeaf 08-08-2016 06:43 PM

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So I ended up going to Canadian Tire and grabbing these:

http://s7d5.scene7.com/is/image/Cana...id=250&hei=250

I wet one very well with DW and put it on a plate and put the plate in the top tray in my Klip-It

Here's how it looks now...

http://i65.tinypic.com/206d64g.jpg

http://i64.tinypic.com/11bt6rb.jpg

And here it is resting beside my bed on my CD storage box/nightstand for stuff resting and doing its thing.

http://i63.tinypic.com/347zdx4.jpg

One question though, given at how thick the sponge is (it's basically
touching the inside of the lid of the Klip-It when I put the lid on it and sealed the Klip-It shut) will that mess up the seasoning process if its touching the inside of the lid???

T.G 08-08-2016 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by HailTheBrownLeaf (Post 2097351)

One question though, given at how thick the sponge is (it's basically
touching the inside of the lid of the Klip-It when I put the lid on it and sealed the Klip-It shut) will that mess up the seasoning process if its touching the inside of the lid???

Nope, not at all. If it were contacting the wood, it might oversaturate it, but plastic doesn't have that problem.

HailTheBrownLeaf 08-08-2016 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by T.G (Post 2097352)
Nope, not at all. If it were contacting the wood, it might oversaturate it, but plastic doesn't have that problem.

Thank you :)

HailTheBrownLeaf 08-09-2016 05:27 AM

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Slightly stupid question regarding sponges but I figured I'd ask so I'll know for future reference.

I just noticed that on the pack of my package of sponges it says "rinse before and each use."

Now obviously I didn't wanna rinse the sponge under the tap with tapwater, so I just soaked it with DW and wrung it out with my hand before soaking it very well again and putting it on a plate on the top tray in my Tupperdore to let it start seasoning the trays. That should be ok right since I didn't "rinse" the sponge in the conventional sense under a hot water tap with soap?

icehog3 08-09-2016 10:48 AM

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Yes, it should be just fine. :tu

Porch Dweller 08-09-2016 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by HailTheBrownLeaf (Post 2097391)
Slightly stupid question regarding sponges but I figured I'd ask so I'll know for future reference.

I just noticed that on the pack of my package of sponges it says "rinse before and each use."

Now obviously I didn't wanna rinse the sponge under the tap with tapwater, so I just soaked it with DW and wrung it out with my hand before soaking it very well again and putting it on a plate on the top tray in my Tupperdore to let it start seasoning the trays. That should be ok right since I didn't "rinse" the sponge in the conventional sense under a hot water tap with soap?

You could always take the sponge out and give it a sniff. If it has any strong odor to it, wring it out really well under some hot water, let it dry, then start the DW process again.

HailTheBrownLeaf 08-09-2016 01:01 PM

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So my new Western Caliber IV hygrometer that I just got yesterday has now been sitting in the Boveda calibration pack for 24 hours exactly.

It's currently reading at 29 degrees Celcius and 77%

Should I leave it in the calibration bag for another 12 hours as the calibration kit says to leave the hygrometer in there anywhere from 24-36 hours.

Dave128 08-09-2016 01:49 PM

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No idea what that Celsius thing is that you speak of, but if it's in a Fahrenheit range that you like I think you're GTG. Also, it wouldn't hurt to leave it in the bag for another day or so.

Dux 08-09-2016 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by HailTheBrownLeaf (Post 2097448)
So my new Western Caliber IV hygrometer that I just got yesterday has now been sitting in the Boveda calibration pack for 24 hours exactly.

It's currently reading at 29 degrees Celcius and 77%

Should I leave it in the calibration bag for another 12 hours as the calibration kit says to leave the hygrometer in there anywhere from 24-36 hours.

There should be a button to switch between Celsius & Fahrenheit

If the Hydro has been in the bag for 48 Hrs the you can assume it's
calibrated. Just remember to -7 from the reading when checking humidity.
Unless you have the ability to adjust it.

HailTheBrownLeaf 08-09-2016 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave128 (Post 2097455)
No idea what that Celsius thing is that you speak of, but if it's in a Fahrenheit range that you like I think you're GTG. Also, it wouldn't hurt to leave it in the bag for another day or so.

We Canadians use Celsius instead of Fahrenheit.

Dave128 08-09-2016 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by HailTheBrownLeaf (Post 2097491)
We Canadians use Celsius instead of Fahrenheit.

I know. I was just being a sarcastic American.

HailTheBrownLeaf 08-11-2016 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave128 (Post 2097518)
I know. I was just being a sarcastic American.

Noted. Although sarcasm doesn't translate well on the internetz.


How many of you wipe down your Spanish cedar trays with a cloth (I.E. to get rid of dust or sawdust etc.) before seasoning??? As I just realized that I didn't do this and my trays are busy seasoning for their 3rd day.

Should I be concerned??

T.G 08-11-2016 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by HailTheBrownLeaf (Post 2097684)
Noted. Although sarcasm doesn't translate well on the internetz.


How many of you wipe down your Spanish cedar trays with a cloth (I.E. to get rid of dust or sawdust etc.) before seasoning??? As I just realized that I didn't do this and my trays are busy seasoning for their 3rd day.

Should I be concerned??

The wipe down is so that you aren't smoking the cedar dust, you can go ahead and do it at any time.

HailTheBrownLeaf 08-12-2016 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by T.G (Post 2097693)
The wipe down is so that you aren't smoking the cedar dust, you can go ahead and do it at any time.

Perfect.

What should I use to wipe the tray down with?? Does the thing need to be wet or dry??

Anyways my initial question was since I'm sure that by tomorrow afternoon my trays will be seasoned...I'm assuming that when I add my hygrometer in there (to see if it maintains a constant humidity before adding my sticks) that I can also add my 65% Bovedas in there then as well when I put my hygro in???

T.G 08-12-2016 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by HailTheBrownLeaf (Post 2098010)
Perfect.

What should I use to wipe the tray down with?? Does the thing need to be wet or dry??

Anyways my initial question was since I'm sure that by tomorrow afternoon my trays will be seasoned...I'm assuming that when I add my hygrometer in there (to see if it maintains a constant humidity before adding my sticks) that I can also add my 65% Bovedas in there then as well when I put my hygro in???

No different to wipe the trays than how one would wipe up sawdust, or just dust, in any other situation. A very lightly dampened cloth, flipped/folded often so that you are using a clean side most of the time, and that's about it.

I have no idea how long it will take your trays to season, too many variables. I would put the hygrometer in and see what it reads, see if you need more time. Add the Bovedia packs at the same time as the cigars. :2

HailTheBrownLeaf 08-13-2016 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by T.G (Post 2098013)
No different to wipe the trays than how one would wipe up sawdust, or just dust, in any other situation. A very lightly dampened cloth, flipped/folded often so that you are using a clean side most of the time, and that's about it.

I have no idea how long it will take your trays to season, too many variables. I would put the hygrometer in and see what it reads, see if you need more time. Add the Bovedia packs at the same time as the cigars. :2

Would using one of those Swiffer duster thingies work?

T.G 08-13-2016 03:25 AM

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I don't really know what is on those, but I would be concerned that it might introduce perfumes and other chemicals. I'd stick to a clean cloth moistened with water.

HailTheBrownLeaf 08-13-2016 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by T.G (Post 2098018)
I don't really know what is on those, but I would be concerned that it might introduce perfumes and other chemicals. I'd stick to a clean cloth moistened with water.

Regular or distilled?

Anyways, about 10-15 minutes ago I finally removed my sponge on a plate and tossed my hygrometer in my Tuppador to see if my trays are fully seasoned now.

Right now I'm sitting at 72% RH although it was 68% when I put the hygro in there initially.

How long should I monitor my RH levels before adding my cigars and 65% Bovedas??


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