Re: Red's Fans Check in
 

:r:r:r

ONLY six...:r

Re: Red's Fans Check in
 

Even the top closers have blown at least 4. I mean, Cordero doesn't make it easy to watch, but he does get saves.

Re: Red's Fans Check in
 

I'm not one to BRAG about "saves"....so let me get this straight, a starting pitcher "aka Cueto" can pitch 8 innings, give up the one run on six hits with no walks and five strikeouts....Cordero, who's only job is to pitch for 3 outs, not 24 outs.....T H R E E ! Loads the bases with one out only to be "saved" by Phillips stopping that shot up the middle by Gomes, that was bobbled by Janish who then "saves" himself and CoCo again by being able to complete the double play. So who was it that made the "save" Dan? Out of everyone on both teams, CoCo is not my nomination for getting the save, but he was infact saved by the rest of the team!

This post was so awesome, everyone should Quote it! FTW!

Re: Red's Fans Check in
 

FTW!



















Just for you ;)

Re: Red's Fans Check in
 

Cordero will not pitch a ninth inning without allowing at least a few base runners. Usually allowing a run and putting some runners on second or third. :rolleyes:

Re: Red's Fans Check in
 

That's the problem with pitching stats to begin with. Why are pitchers evaluated on wins and saves when in fact, they don't win the game by themselves, nor do they save the game by themselves either.

For me, a good pitcher is based mainly on ERA and WHIP. Those aren't the only factors, as we all know, but wins are overrated when it comes to pitching stats. Especially with small market teams.

If Cueto played for Phillie, NYY, Atlanta, or Boston, he'd have a helluva lot more wins than he does now based on his performance alone.


BTW, strikeouts are overrated too.

Re: Red's Fans Check in
 

This many sound hypocritical after my last post, but I agree with you here. He has gotten the job done, despite all the nail-biters he puts us through.

Re: Red's Fans Check in
 

One thing hasn't changed: Jonny Gomes is still helping Arroyo lose ballgames.:)

Re: Red's Fans Check in
 

One thing hasn't changed, Stubbs still loves striking out. 0'fer again, 2 K's more toward the record books, 14 up on the league now :tu

Re: Red's Fans Check in
 

If you're gonna lead the league, then you gotta do it right. He needs to work on striking out looking more. He had a good one tonight. :D

Re: Red's Fans Check in
 

If pitchers threw him strikes he would have many more strikeouts. He loves watching pitches and sometimes he ends up getting a walk instead of a strikeout. :hm

Re: Red's Fans Check in
 

:r

Re: Red's Fans Check in
 

Reds win! Reds win! :banger :tu :banger :tu :)

Re: Red's Fans Check in
 

13.5 Games back! :banger

Nothing like "stealing" a win on a blown call at second base. :tu

Drew Stubbs goes 0'fer and the Reds win and adds to his strikeout total :td

Re: Red's Fans Check in
 

Just saw that was the first series win against the Pirates this year. Man, this team is bad, good follow up to the Division Championship. :r

Re: Red's Fans Check in
 

Alonso at first tonight. He's looking good offensively so far.

Re: Red's Fans Check in
 

Reds win! Reds win! :banger :tu :) :tu :tu

Re: Red's Fans Check in
 

13.5 Games Back :banger

Re: Red's Fans Check in
 

Stubbs better pick up his strikeout total if he wants to beat the MLB record. Heck he is in danger of not even making it to 200 at this point. :rolleyes:

Re: Red's Fans Check in
 

Stubbs 0-4 with 2 K's, gotta get to that record Drew :tu

Has Cordero had a 1-2-3 9th inning this season? :hm He loves putting people on base and in scoring position. If he had more save opportunities, he would have surely blown more by now. :td

Re: Red's Fans Check in
 

Reds win! Reds win! :banger:banger:noon:D:tu

Re: Red's Fans Check in
 

wheres the reds got outplayed, reds got outplayed???? :rolleyes::rolleyes::sh:td:mad:

Re: Red's Fans Check in
 

Right along with "Reds are 13 out! Reds are 13 out!" ;) :wo :r :bx :D

Re: Red's Fans Check in
 

2 out of 3 from the Marlins. Game one in front of 347 people :banger :rolleyes: :bh ;) :bx

Re: Red's Fans Check in
 

I thought the attendance was hilarious. Why does Florida even try?

Re: Red's Fans Check in
 

To their credit, there is a hurricane coming and the game was originally supposed to be played today. But, I concur, there would have been at least 5,000 people at most other cities. :sh

Re: Red's Fans Check in
 

I know the Dolphins pretty muched pushed the Marlins out of the stadium, but it makes you wonder why they're building a new stadium (which looks awesome btw) rather than relocate. Charlotte or Nashville would sell more tickets than Miami.

Re: Red's Fans Check in
 

Drew Stubbs under 30 for 200 K's this year, so bad. :td


Oh, Reds Win! 13 games back! 5 smilies

Re: Red's Fans Check in
 

Reds win! Reds win! :banger :tu :banger :tu :)

Re: Red's Fans Check in
 

Soon they can request their permanent tee times for October! ;)

Re: Red's Fans Check in
 

I highly suggest that a few of the clowns on the team sign up for winter ball rather than tee time.:) Stubbs, Alonso, Heisey, Sappelt, Frazier all need as much practice as they can get.

Re: Red's Fans Check in
 

Hopefully they can get some of the Chicago Schlubs to sign up with them. :r

Re: Red's Fans Check in
 

Back at .500 for the first time since... it feels like forever.

No playoffs for us, but I'd be happy at this point if we beat out the Redturds.

Re: Red's Fans Check in
 

Reds win! Reds win! :banger :tu :banger :) :noon

Re: Red's Fans Check in
 

Egad.

Re: Red's Fans Check in
 

Homerism knows no bounds. Who cares if they are out contention and beating one of the worst teams in baseball at home? Three game win streak! Back to .500. 13 games outl. They are winning. :rolleyes:

Re: Red's Fans Check in
 

I have to start making 5 smiley posts when the Cubs win once a week. :r

Thank Goodness for the Tigers.

Re: Red's Fans Check in
 

Time for the ignore list again. Sayonara

Re: Red's Fans Check in
 

Time for being an adult!!! Woohoo... I'm taking my crappy ball team AND I'm going home!

Re: Red's Fans Check in
 

If Reds fans ever think they have it bad, call a Cubs fan. ;)

Re: Red's Fans Check in
 

You ain't just whistlin' "Dixie", Adam. :r

Re: Red's Fans Check in
 

Is that the song from Deliverance.... ;)

Re: Red's Fans Check in
 

That's the song the General Lee plays when Bo blows the horn.:banger

Re: Red's Fans Check in
 

Yes, I only hear it when I see dudes in chick sunglasses, Steve. :r

Re: Red's Fans Check in
 

I know, but watching the reds play, I feel like I should be molested by some slack jaw yokels.... oh and Votto Wins another one... gone after next season... : 5 random faces :

How bout Stubbs... 2ks.... 1 after going 3-0 in the count... what a stellar showing... 177Ks 29 games to go... it'll be close but I'm confident he'll make it to 200!

Re: Red's Fans Check in
 

Squeal like a pig, boy!:r


We all feel like we've been @$$ raped by this organization at times, but the fact is that we could have back to back winning seasons. That's something we haven't seen in a while. No, it's not another playoff appearance or a WS win, but it's progress. We can sit here and hate on Dan for being a homer, but I wish I had his optimism at times. I'm sure he knows as well as the rest of us that we never were gonna win the WS this year, but there were plenty of things to feel optimistic about before the All-Star break, and there are a few bright hopes to look forward to next year (I said a few things).

Optimism for next year:
One more season with Votto
Take the option for BP and make him the leadoff hitter
Bruce's numbers (although streaky) have been his best yet
Cozart at SS (hopefully he's the answer, although we haven't seen him for an extended period yet)
Cueto is an ACE
Leake has good command
Willis has made a helluva comeback
Meseraco as catcher next year looks good (provided Ramon doesn't accept arbitration)
CoCo gone, Renteria gone, Janish won't be a starter, Lewis gone (I think)
Bailey hasn't been too bad
Chapman in rotation?
Brewers won't have the same team next year

Things not to look forward to next year:
Arroyo's big contract
Stubbs' Ks (hopefully we won't still be trying the leadoff expirement with him
Bailey still not living up to his potential
Who's gonna be the closer?
Bullpen is shakey

Re: Red's Fans Check in
 

Stubbs is just under the pace to finish in the top 5, currently already 39th for the single season strikeout record. :td

Re: Red's Fans Check in
 

Chapman in the rotation sounds like a terrible idea. He has already shown that he can over pitch and doesn't do well after too many pitches. :2

They have to stop trying to force players into the hype they have given them. Stubbs was made out to be the protypical lead-lead off and is far from it. Bailey was supposed to be an ace and is far from it. Cordero was supposed to get 50+ saves a season for a division contender. Bruce is supposed to be an MVP candidate. Janish, Gomes, Chapman..... And on and on. Everyone has the hype and few live up to them. :td

I can't be a homer, I just watch sports. Blind faith does nothing for me, which is bad for me living in the area with so many people who swear alleigance to teams with no knowledge of the sport or even being able to discuss what is going on. Its like Bengals 'fans' who hate Carson Palmer for retiring but love Mike Brown. Some people will like Stubbs no matter how many times he strikes out. To me, striking out more than one time per game as a lead-off hitter just means you suck. :hm

Re: Red's Fans Check in
 

Being someone not from the area, I don't hear the hype as much as y'all do. I try not to believe it until it's proven anyways (like Cam Newton down here in NC).


But like it or not, the optimistic things I posted are actually not over-hyped (with the exception of Cozart). Is that gonna get us to the playoffs or to the WS? Hell no. Is it enough for us to break .500 next year? I think so.


Bruce is a future MVP - Nope. But his numbers have improved like I said

Cordero to get 50+ saves - Don't care. He's off the books next year. Thank God.

Stubbs the future leadoff - Never said it. Don't want it. He is a more than acceptable MLB hitter at the 6-8 spot though. If they would let him bunt, then I could see him as a two hole hitter, but until then, he's down to the bottom of the order

Janish - I never expected much of Janish, but I did think that he would hit at least in the .250-260 range. I'll admit I was wrong on this one.

Gomes - Didn't want him back. I knew what he was gonna do.

Rolen- You didn't bring him up, but I will...He made the All-Star team. Big whoop. Wow. I'm not impressed. I don't buy into his hype. He's played with a fugged up shoulder all year and I've been calling for him to retire since the end of last year. Yes he helped us make the playoffs last year, but if you look at his numbers, they sucked after the 2010 All-Star break. He needs to retire, and if we bring him back next year, then it's gonna hurt us in the long run.

Hernandez- You didn't bring him up either, but while I'm on the subject of calling people out...
Hernandez is a good player and a good guy, but is way overrated b/c of the walkoff HR in game 1 this year. Hannigan is the better defensive catcher by a long shot. Look at his ERA per pitcher compared to Ramon. Ramon does not need to be offered arbitration next year. That would be a joke. Hanigan can provide both backup and mentorship to Meseraco next year and they will be fine. Just like this year: Meseraco with the bat, Hanigan with the defense/better game calling skills.



I could go on if anyone likes, but I think that was enough for now. I'm optimistic about next year for sure, but I'm not a homer. I realize our downfalls, but our strengths as of this point outweigh our weaknesses. We won't know until Jocketty makes some moves or not during the offseason, but I've got hope for another wininng season next year, with or without Dusty's help.


EDIT: And if we're paying Chapman $30 million to be anything but a starter, then it's time to bail on him. Sign the kid up for winter ball, build up his endurance, and put him in the rotation. This reliever crap is a waste of both money and talent.

Re: Red's Fans Check in
 

Reds win! Reds win! :banger :tu :banger :tu :)