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smitty81 02-03-2012 02:22 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Sweet, I firearm thread!

I'm an avid hunter shooter.

I have a "small collection"

Volusianator 02-04-2012 11:00 AM

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I've been looking at conceal carry weapons lately seeing as WI recently passed the law. I kinda fell in love with the Ruger LC9 Lasermax, does anybody have any first hand experience with this weapon?

Volusianator 02-04-2012 11:02 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cigarcop (Post 1547762)
New .284 throated for the 180VLD's, .313 Neck, Bat Action, Brux Barrel


http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/y...p/DSC_0357.jpg

Does that thing load and fire itself too?! Looks like the barrel stand will scratch the table.

TRicker 02-04-2012 01:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Volusianator (Post 1549306)
I've been looking at conceal carry weapons lately seeing as WI recently passed the law. I kinda fell in love with the Ruger LC9 Lasermax, does anybody have any first hand experience with this weapon?

I have an LC9, that I acquired recently. Make sure you clean it when you first get it, it has a ton of grease inside and wont fire if properly if you don't. It's accurate, but has a super long triggerpull, I'm looking into replacing the trigger. In my opinion the lasermax is a waste, get the regular model and buy a sweet carry rig. I had a bodyguard which has a built in laser and just didn't think I would use it in a defensive situation. Just one extra step when its not really needed. YMMV

hammondc 02-04-2012 05:27 PM

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Jeez keith.....that is one sexy gun.

hammondc 02-04-2012 05:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Volusianator (Post 1549306)
I've been looking at conceal carry weapons lately seeing as WI recently passed the law. \\

Good for you, bud. Arm up. I carry daily here in the great republic of Texas.

Volusianator 02-05-2012 03:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TRicker (Post 1549418)
I have an LC9, that I acquired recently. Make sure you clean it when you first get it, it has a ton of grease inside and wont fire if properly if you don't. It's accurate, but has a super long triggerpull, I'm looking into replacing the trigger. In my opinion the lasermax is a waste, get the regular model and buy a sweet carry rig. I had a bodyguard which has a built in laser and just didn't think I would use it in a defensive situation. Just one extra step when its not really needed. YMMV

The length of trigger pull is the only thing I didn't like about the gun, it seemed very excessive to the point where it was almost uncomfortable. I'll keep looking, I'm gonna look at a couple Kahrs next.

MurphysLaw 02-05-2012 03:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Volusianator (Post 1550450)
The length of trigger pull is the only thing I didn't like about the gun, it seemed very excessive to the point where it was almost uncomfortable. I'll keep looking, I'm gonna look at a couple Kahrs next.

I have the Kahr PM9 as my CCW gun, have a couple thousand rounds through it, and it has never given me a problem.

Volusianator 02-05-2012 03:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MurphysLaw (Post 1550457)
I have the Kahr PM9 as my CCW gun, have a couple thousand rounds through it, and it has never given me a problem.

I'll look at at, a buddy of mine who's very into guns recommended the CW9, but I'll look at the PM9 as well, thanks.

Volusianator 02-05-2012 04:26 PM

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Hmmm, both the CW9 and PM9 look like something I may be interested in just by specs alone, now I just gotta go to Gander and take a look.

emopunker2004 02-09-2012 01:34 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Volusianator (Post 1550471)
Hmmm, both the CW9 and PM9 look like something I may be interested in just by specs alone, now I just gotta go to Gander and take a look.

Check out the Cw9 and the CM9. Both can be had from buds gun shop or cheaper than dirt for about $325-$400 shipped to your local FFL. :tu
Shot my friends CW9 and loved it.
here is a pic of the CM9 vs LC9

http://www.intempusphotography.com/p...68_K6N8P-L.jpg

Stevez 02-09-2012 09:17 AM

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I too wanted the Ruger, but absolutely hated the long trigger pull. I ended up with the Kahr CM9 and love it. If you are thinking about the PM9, I would encourage you to study the differences in features and prices. I just couldn't personally justify the higher cost of the PM9, but some do and are very happy. My CM9 is my CCW and I love it as I said. I love the trigger and find it very accurate for the size of the weapon. Good luck. Steve

Poronico 02-09-2012 11:12 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Sig Tac Ops 226 9mm. Amazing weapon, 20+1 stack with 4 mags standard. I will post groupings when I hit the range next, but last time out I put 5 rounds in a quarter at 27 feet.
http://i569.photobucket.com/albums/s...64644895_n.jpg

weak_link 02-09-2012 04:10 PM

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Serious question- what is 20 grain .22lr good for? I saw it on sale but can't figure out why I would want it.

BlkDrew 02-09-2012 04:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by weak_link (Post 1554250)
Serious question- what is 20 grain .22lr good for? I saw it on sale but can't figure out why I would want it.

target .....

Bill86 02-09-2012 04:23 PM

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Maybe a small rodent problem?

Mice or rats.

Poronico 02-09-2012 04:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by weak_link (Post 1554250)
Serious question- what is 20 grain .22lr good for? I saw it on sale but can't figure out why I would want it.

Assassinations...

weak_link 02-09-2012 04:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BlkDrew (Post 1554253)
target .....

All my .22lr target ammo is 40 grain.

Rodents makes sense, especially if you are shooting in a barn or something.

Assanations...now yer talkin'! :r

Poronico 02-09-2012 05:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by weak_link (Post 1554293)
All my .22lr target ammo is 40 grain.

Rodents makes sense, especially if you are shooting in a barn or something.

Assanations...now yer talkin'! :r

I'm just sayin... IF I was going to do it... that's what I would use. :tf

BC-Axeman 02-09-2012 06:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Poronico (Post 1554267)
Assassinations...

Shhhh! They'll ban it.:tf

smitty81 02-09-2012 08:56 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by weak_link (Post 1554293)
All my .22lr target ammo is 40 grain.

Rodents makes sense, especially if you are shooting in a barn or something.

Assanations...now yer talkin'! :r

shouldn't it be the other way around?

I'd rather have a lighter grain for targets cause all it has to do is hit.

The heavier grain would be better for varmits because it will have more energy.

WyGuy 02-09-2012 09:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by smitty81 (Post 1554514)
shouldn't it be the other way around?

I'd rather have a lighter grain for targets cause all it has to do is hit.

The heavier grain would be better for varmits because it will have more energy.

The lighter bullets tend to have a much higher velocity making them shoot a bit flatter, also with the higher velocity is the almost explosive type fragmentation when they hit small varmints. One downside with the lighter bullets is that wind affects them more.

For punching holes in paper it does't matter all that much, at least to me.

smitty81 02-09-2012 09:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WyGuy (Post 1554528)
The lighter bullets tend to have a much higher velocity making them shoot a bit flatter

Yes, but 20 grains difference for a 22, your not going to notice. Also, your not going to be shooting real far with a 22 to be concerned about bullet drop.
also with the higher velocity is the almost explosive type fragmentation when they hit small varmints.
Depends on what type of bullet your shooting. Hollow points yes, soft points, not so much.
One downside with the lighter bullets is that wind affects them more.
.22 is so small, wind will affect them both about the same really.

For punching holes in paper it does't matter all that much, at least to me.

Think of shooting a deer with a 270 and then shooting prairie dogs with a 270.

Heavier bullet for the deer, lighter bullet for the prairie dog. No need to overkill a prairie dog and waste the extra lead and powder.

Same goes for 22 in theory........

I reload all my ammo..................lots of time to play and study :D

theonlybear4CORT 02-09-2012 11:27 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by weak_link (Post 1554250)
Serious question- what is 20 grain .22lr good for? I saw it on sale but can't figure out why I would want it.

Do you still have that rodent that chewed up your bike harness?

Volusianator 02-10-2012 01:21 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1553798)
Check out the Cw9 and the CM9. Both can be had from buds gun shop or cheaper than dirt for about $325-$400 shipped to your local FFL. :tu
Shot my friends CW9 and loved it.
here is a pic of the CM9 vs LC9

http://www.intempusphotography.com/p...68_K6N8P-L.jpg

I LOVE the look of the LC9, but that trigger pull is just sooo long. I've been looking at both Kahr's lately and am going to the local shop tomorrow to feel them out. I really like what I've read about the PM9 and the CW9 seems like a great lesser expensive version. Looking forward to a little more research tomorrow.

Thanks for the advice gentlemen.

emopunker2004 02-10-2012 01:30 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Volusianator (Post 1554644)
I LOVE the look of the LC9, but that trigger pull is just sooo long. I've been looking at both Kahr's lately and am going to the local shop tomorrow to feel them out. I really like what I've read about the PM9 and the CW9 seems like a great lesser expensive version. Looking forward to a little more research tomorrow.

Thanks for the advice gentlemen.

Hey. the CM9 is a cheaper PM9. Lil less milling, some MIM parts and regular rifling not polygonal rifling. The CW9 is bigger than the CM9 and PM9. Still a smaller gun tho.
This is the CW9 vs CM9

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1.../PM9vCW405.jpg

DrDubzz 02-10-2012 10:21 PM

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I have a question for the AR gurus. I'm going to start piecing one together soon, but am undecided on which stripped lower to begin with, I've narrowed it down to 3

Stag (can get locally for a good price)
Palmetto State (available online, would be about even to the Stag after FFL fee)
Spikes (4-6 week wait time, bout the same price after fees)

I've read good things about all of them, I'm leaning towards the Stag since it's local-ish, any input?

emopunker2004 02-10-2012 10:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RX2010 (Post 1555637)
I have a question for the AR gurus. I'm going to start piecing one together soon, but am undecided on which stripped lower to begin with, I've narrowed it down to 3

Stag (can get locally for a good price)
Palmetto State (available online, would be about even to the Stag after FFL fee)
Spikes (4-6 week wait time, bout the same price after fees)

I've read good things about all of them, I'm leaning towards the Stag since it's local-ish, any input?

I would say PSA but that's just me. No personal experience, just heard alot of good things about PSA in the forums. Remember, if you buy the lower at your local dealer u gotta pay tax on it too. Go with the cheapest :tu

Poronico 02-10-2012 11:02 PM

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This is probably going to be my next build...

RRA forged lower
RRA NM 2 stage trigger
RRA forged flat top upper with Wilson 24" 1:8 twist match grade stainless bull barrel
Harris Bi-Pod on a Larue LT-130 mount
PSG1 grip
Yankee Hill Four Rail Free Float Forearm
Magpul PRS Stock
8-32x56 scope in a Larue LT-104 Mount
A.R.M.S. 40L BUIS
Yankee Hill Gas Block Front Sight

BC-Axeman 02-10-2012 11:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Poronico (Post 1555679)
This is probably going to be my next build...

RRA forged lower
RRA NM 2 stage trigger
RRA forged flat top upper with Wilson 24" 1:8 twist match grade stainless bull barrel
Harris Bi-Pod on a Larue LT-130 mount
PSG1 grip
Yankee Hill Four Rail Free Float Forearm
Magpul PRS Stock
8-32x56 scope in a Larue LT-104 Mount
A.R.M.S. 40L BUIS
Yankee Hill Gas Block Front Sight

:gn
Dang!
That's all.

Cigarcop 02-11-2012 12:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Poronico (Post 1555679)
This is probably going to be my next build...

RRA forged lower
RRA NM 2 stage trigger
RRA forged flat top upper with Wilson 24" 1:8 twist match grade stainless bull barrel
Harris Bi-Pod on a Larue LT-130 mount
PSG1 grip
Yankee Hill Four Rail Free Float Forearm
Magpul PRS Stock
8-32x56 scope in a Larue LT-104 Mount
A.R.M.S. 40L BUIS
Yankee Hill Gas Block Front Sight

That scope is going to be huge for the rifle

WyGuy 02-11-2012 01:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RX2010 (Post 1555637)
I have a question for the AR gurus. I'm going to start piecing one together soon, but am undecided on which stripped lower to begin with, I've narrowed it down to 3

Stag (can get locally for a good price)
Palmetto State (available online, would be about even to the Stag after FFL fee)
Spikes (4-6 week wait time, bout the same price after fees)

I've read good things about all of them, I'm leaning towards the Stag since it's local-ish, any input?

I'm certainly not an AR guru, but I am very happy with the quality of my PSA stripped lower as well as the upper I bought from them. Don't think you could really go wrong with any of them though.

Poronico 02-11-2012 03:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cigarcop (Post 1556065)
That scope is going to be huge for the rifle

Right now I have a 6x32 which I find to be good up to the 250-300 yard range with 5.56, with this build I am thinking either 300AAC or 308 so the extra scope should be viable.

Cigarcop 02-11-2012 03:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Poronico (Post 1556174)
Right now I have a 6x32 which I find to be good up to the 250-300 yard range with 5.56, with this build I am thinking either 300AAC or 308 so the extra scope should be viable.

It's not the power I'm talking about its the front bell...its gonna sit very high in some tall rings.

Remo 02-11-2012 03:25 PM

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1 Attachment(s)
My .223 set up.

Attachment 11300

theonlybear4CORT 02-11-2012 05:37 PM

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to eotech or to not eotech? that is the question

boom 02-11-2012 06:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theonlybear4CORT (Post 1556289)
to eotech or to not eotech? that is the question

Primary Arms Red Dot....

http://www.primaryarms.com/Primary_A...0arms%20m3.htm

Ratters 02-11-2012 11:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theonlybear4CORT (Post 1556289)
to eotech or to not eotech? that is the question

Meh, a lot of money for a dot with a circle around it. You already have a front sight post, use that.

:D

You can look through my EOTech next Saturday and see if you think it's worth it.

Remo 02-11-2012 11:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ratters (Post 1556647)
Meh, a lot of money for a dot with a circle around it. You already have a front sight post, use that.

:D

You can look through my EOTech next Saturday and see if you think it's worth it.

They are nice for quick target acquisition, not sure what line of work you are in or just for target practice?

Ratters 02-12-2012 12:07 AM

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Like I said, I have one, they are just spensive for plinking. Mike just wants one for zombie defense. ;)

Remo 02-12-2012 12:08 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ratters (Post 1556675)
Like I said, I have one, they are just spensive for plinking. Mike just wants one for zombie defense. ;)

:lr I have one on my work gun, I like it :tu

emopunker2004 02-12-2012 12:09 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Remo_5_0 (Post 1556676)
:lr I have one on my squirt gun, I like it :tu

fixt

Remo 02-12-2012 12:18 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1556677)
fixt

Gonna Squirt you in the eye :sl

emopunker2004 02-12-2012 12:21 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Remo_5_0 (Post 1556680)
Gonna Squirt you in the eye :sl

:pu















:lv

Steve 02-12-2012 07:22 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Remo_5_0 (Post 1556680)
Gonna Squirt you in the eye :sl

And you said MY comment didn't sound right...:r

Cigarcop 02-12-2012 08:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by steve (Post 1556777)
And you said MY comment didn't sound right...:r

Yes I agree this thread is turning to the "Gay" side!!!!

Cigarcop 02-12-2012 09:29 AM

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getting this thread back on track....

GA Precision .308 20" Tactical rig, Surgeon 591 Action, Badger BM, McMillan A3-5 Stock, NighForce 5.5x22x50 NXS

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/y...IMG_0387-1.jpg

theonlybear4CORT 02-12-2012 04:33 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ratters (Post 1556647)
Meh, a lot of money for a dot with a circle around it. You already have a front sight post, use that.

:D

You can look through my EOTech next Saturday and see if you think it's worth it.

Cool I was going to ask you at the herf if you had one so I could check it out first hand.

Ratters 02-12-2012 07:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cigarcop (Post 1556875)
getting this thread back on track....

GA Precision .308 20" Tactical rig, Surgeon 591 Action, Badger BM, McMillan A3-5 Stock, NighForce 5.5x22x50 NXS

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/y...IMG_0387-1.jpg

:dr

smitty81 02-12-2012 08:43 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cigarcop (Post 1556875)
getting this thread back on track....

GA Precision .308 20" Tactical rig, Surgeon 591 Action, Badger BM, McMillan A3-5 Stock, NighForce 5.5x22x50 NXS

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/y...IMG_0387-1.jpg

damn nice rifle!:tu


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