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After rethinking my last post, I agree with you about not wanting to introduce more problems, i.e. insects and lizards and maybe even a stray "gator" from the conservation pond in the back yard. So, have decided to go with the 60 degree temp for a week or two and systematically check my sticks over the next few days before rushing to purchase a freezer. However, any sign of the beasties and I will be first in line at Walmart/Target.
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Thanks SilverFox, great info! To the freezer my little babies :tu
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Great information. I've never had this happen to me, but I'll start freezing all cigars before they go in my humidors.
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Nice post, any suggestions on freezing more then one cigar at a time? Is it ok to put say 10 cigars in a bag when freezing?
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Matthew, Just make sure you freeze everything, all sticks. It's better to start now if you have a small stash versus going back and then saying, oh crap I should have froze everything.
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They all shall be freezed then. I got half in the freezer right now and I will get the other half ready to freeze.
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So I have a question. How long can an egg lay dormant? I mean if an egg doesnt hatch for say a year...will it ever hatch?
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I will be freezing mine this weekend, until then I have a suspect box in my old coolidor. Can I freeze a box that is not full (ie has 20 out of 25 sticks) or should I just unbox and freeze all 20 together? I'm thinking the latter. Has anyone had any issues from not removing enough air? I'm going to buy a bunch of the freezer food saver bags but if I can do it with big ziplocks that would be better. After having beetles hatch it's going to be a relief to freeze and not worry every day above 72f in the house.
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Freezer burn takes weeks to occur. As long as you get most of the air out you should be fine, the main thing is to be sure you freeze long enough. 72-96hours. :2
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Froze many a box, never completely shed of air. NEver had any problems whatsoever. Recipe: -10F in my deep freezer for 3 days, 6 hours in the frig, then unpack and store away. Smoke at your leisure. Mr. Biscuit has a valid point - the air is fine. Double-bag and go.
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Np, I should have found some info first before posting. I'm sure it just confused Jake more then it did help him. I was going off of memory, and you are more experienced then I am in this matter! Thanks for your info and input Chutney.
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Finished freezing my first bundle today and i didnt screw anything up thanks to this thread :banger
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Cryonics (from Greek kryos- meaning icy cold) is the low-temperature preservation of humans and animals who can no longer be sustained by contemporary medicine, with the hope that healing and resuscitation may be possible in the future. Cryopreservation of people or large animals is not reversible with current technology.
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But is cryopreservation of cigars reversible, Tom? I have heard serious wrapper damage can occur.
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It was so big it did not fit on the counter and we had to get a little table for it... |
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Well I am paranoid now lol. Should I freeze my whole stash now?
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Can you freeze them too long? Reason I am asking is I have some new cigars and my humidor is set to be delivered today. Can I freeze them while I season the humidor?? Or should I wait and store them in tupperware untill I get the humidor squared away and then freeze them for storage?
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Just freeze them when they come in, then put them in the tupperware while you wait for the humidor to be ready.
As for too long, depends. A week? Nah. 10 days? Nah. A month? Yeah, probably, but depends a lot on the freezer. Not that it'll physically hurt the cigars so much as they might start to pick up that wonderful "freezer/frost taste" after that long if it's one that cycles tempratures a lot or is opened often (like most home refrigerator/freezer combos). |
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Do I understand the OP correctly?
At 32 degrees it would take 1176 hours to ensure beetles of all stages are killed? "0 degrees C Time to 100% mortality 1176 hr" |
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Yes, that is correct. However a typical home fridge can get colder than that. |
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That is a lot longer than I thought, I have some in the freezer now, guees I will leave them in longer than planned. |
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Thanks guys. My freezer is new and it maintains -2* so I should be good to go.
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After the freezing process is done, do you need to put a box into the humidor in any special way? For example, after freezing I used to put all my boxes in with their lids cracked for a couple weeks to let the cigars balance out, but now room is tight and I'm not able to do that anymore. Is it going to be a problem to put a full dress box in there with the lid closed? Will the cigars still be able to balance out?
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You shouldn't have to crack the lids on any boxes once they go back into the humidor. Just to reiterate from the OP though, it's wise to go from freezer to fridge in order to bring the temp up slowly THEN go to the humi. I follow this practice religiously, and it has given me great peace of mind.
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I got a nice sample box from AVO with 7 sticks in it. Can I just freeze the sticks or should I just put the whole box in the freezer? I do plan on putting them back in the box and in the humi after the freeze cycle.
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Box and all brother. Don't overthink it.:tu
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