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RevSmoke 01-16-2012 07:32 AM
Re: Packer fan thoughts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Flounder (Post 1531823)
We can't see eye to eye on this, haha. As a Bills fan, the last team I want to see win it is the effing Pats.

But in other news, I feel so bad for Aaron Rodgers, with the exception of 1 or 2 poor throws he played so well, the lack of D and 13 dropped passes lost that game. Not saying the Pack would have one, but had all those passes not been dropped the game would have been so much more exciting...
Lack of D? Yeah, the Giants got a lot of yards, but the stops came when they needed to. The offense was to blame for this loss. The dropped passes were huge. The number of fumbles was huge.

The Packers played poorly and the Giants played well.

I think I'm going to have to root for the 49ers now.

Peace of the Lord be with you.

Stephen 01-16-2012 08:08 AM
Re: Packer fan thoughts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RevSmoke (Post 1531946)
Lack of D? Yeah, the Giants got a lot of yards, but the stops came when they needed to. The offense was to blame for this loss. The dropped passes were huge. The number of fumbles was huge.

The Packers played poorly and the Giants played well.
That, and you could just tell that Rodgers lost all faith in his entire receiving corps somewhere in the third quarter and started checking down to his runningbacks.

Good grief, giving up that halftime-Hail-Mary is simply inexcusable. Even as poor as they were playing (and coaching) to that point, going into the half down by three and getting the ball back would've made it a completely different ballgame.

All I can say is what a waste...

Blak Smyth 01-16-2012 08:09 AM
Re: Packer fan thoughts
 
I was really pulling for you guys, I HATE the giants! Well I mostly hate Eli and I dislike the giants.

Flounder 01-16-2012 08:20 AM
Re: Packer fan thoughts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 1531970)
That, and you could just tell that Rodgers lost all faith in his entire receiving corps somewhere in the third quarter and started checking down to his runningbacks.

Good grief, giving up that halftime-Hail-Mary is simply inexcusable. Even as poor as they were playing (and coaching) to that point, going into the half down by three and getting the ball back would've made it a completely different ballgame.

All I can say is what a waste...
I felt the same way. On all 3 counts really. And I felt that Rodgers was just frustrated. They receivers said before the game "Aaron is the kind of quarterback that wont get mad or abandon you if you drop a pass, but get it right back to you to keep your head up." But that many drops was just in excusable.

The half time Hail Mary made me sad, how does no one even get a hand on the ball?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blak Smyth (Post 1531972)
I was really pulling for you guys, I HATE the giants! Well I mostly hate Eli and I dislike the giants.
Agreed. Eli and most of the Giants receiving corps just frustrates me. My room-mate is a hardcore Giants fan and is so ungodly obnoxious.

Stephen 01-16-2012 08:30 AM
Re: Packer fan thoughts
 
Would've been a blast to hang out with this guy...
Quote:
Originally Posted by NFL.com article
Who's Peter Serafin, you ask? Well, he's a successful New York businessman and avid Packers fan who decided to drop $240,000 on a road trip to the NFC Divisional Playoff Game against the Giants at Lambeau Field.
How to drop $240K without trying:

» 1,086 miles to travel in a 70-foot RV

» 2 waitresses

» 3 TVs

» 26 bottles of champagne

» 65 Kobe beef burgers

» 100 gallons of beer

» 150 pounds of prime beef

» 10 live lobsters

» 6 seats on the 50-yard line

longknocker 01-16-2012 08:58 AM
Re: Packer fan thoughts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 1532006)
Would've been a blast to hang out with this guy...


How to drop $240K without trying:

» 1,086 miles to travel in a 70-foot RV

» 2 waitresses

» 3 TVs

» 26 bottles of champagne

» 65 Kobe beef burgers

» 100 gallons of beer

» 150 pounds of prime beef

» 10 live lobsters

» 6 seats on the 50-yard line
Ouch! :gary

longknocker 01-16-2012 09:01 AM
Re: Packer fan thoughts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RevSmoke (Post 1531946)
Lack of D? Yeah, the Giants got a lot of yards, but the stops came when they needed to. The offense was to blame for this loss. The dropped passes were huge. The number of fumbles was huge.

The Packers played poorly and the Giants played well.

I think I'm going to have to root for the 49ers now.

Peace of the Lord be with you.
You Shouldn't Have Made Fun Of My Saints, Brother! Bad Karma! :D

OLS 01-16-2012 09:04 AM
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Funny how the two favorites to win the division both had EPIC failures of execution.
Watching the Saints self-destruct was just a chrusher. Then to see them come roaring
back for the "win" was great...only it wasn't a win. At least they didn't look like LSU ;(

Stephen 01-16-2012 09:20 AM
Re: Packer fan thoughts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLS (Post 1532041)
Funny how the two favorites to win the division both had EPIC failures of execution.
Watching the Saints self-destruct was just a chrusher. Then to see them come roaring
back for the "win" was great...only it wasn't a win. At least they didn't look like LSU ;(
I think that was the most bizarre playoff game I've ever watched. 49ers get a quick 17 point lead, then a snoozer, then the Saints start chipping away at the lead, then they score to go up 24-23. Then, all Hell breaks loose. I had no horse in that race, which made it some of the most exciting playoff football I think I've ever seen. I can't even begin to imagine what it would've been like to be a fan of one of these franchises; I probably would've developed an aneurysm.:D

yourchoice 01-16-2012 09:41 AM
Re: Packer fan thoughts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blak Smyth (Post 1531972)
I was really pulling for you guys, I HATE the giants! Well I mostly hate Eli and I dislike the giants.
Wow, Shane...We finally agree on something when it comes to the NFL!

This week I'm pulling for the Harbaughs.

14holestogie 01-16-2012 10:15 AM
Re: Packer fan thoughts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by yourchoice (Post 1532075)
This week I'm pulling for the Harbaughs.
:tpd:

MoreBeer 01-16-2012 05:26 PM
Re: Packer fan thoughts
 
Amazing they lost when its was obvious the NFL gave clear and absolute instruction to the Officials to make certain the Packers win. There's no theory in that conspiracy. Just fact.

Now, the Giants go all the way and beat the Patriots "again" in the Super Bowl.

pnoon 01-16-2012 06:17 PM
Re: Packer fan thoughts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MoreBeer (Post 1532424)
Amazing they lost when its was obvious the NFL gave clear and absolute instruction to the Officials to make certain the Packers win. There's no theory in that conspiracy. Just fact.

Now, the Giants go all the way and beat the Patriots "again" in the Super Bowl.
O.K. I'll bite. On what do you base your assertion? (fwiw - I'm a Giants fan)

goomer 01-16-2012 06:32 PM
Re: Packer fan thoughts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 1532006)
Would've been a blast to hang out with this guy...


How to drop $240K without trying:

» 1,086 miles to travel in a 70-foot RV

» 2 waitresses

» 3 TVs

» 26 bottles of champagne

» 65 Kobe beef burgers

» 100 gallons of beer

» 150 pounds of prime beef

» 10 live lobsters

» 6 seats on the 50-yard line
I wonder why he didn't fly?

MoreBeer 01-16-2012 07:11 PM
Re: Packer fan thoughts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 1532465)
O.K. I'll bite. On what do you base your assertion? (fwiw - I'm a Giants fan)

Exactly what were you watching? Obviously not the game if you really need to ask that question. FWIW, I'm good friends with an extremely prominent former Giants player who you'd know quite well and even he has a similar opinion.

I'd like to add that this friend of mine (can't say who) also told me that he expects the NFL to announce an apology to the Giants regarding the poor (a.k.a. skewed) officiating. He also expects (was told) the apology to be made public information. So if I know that, I'm not yanking your stogie brother.

floydpink 01-16-2012 07:17 PM
Re: Packer fan thoughts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MoreBeer (Post 1532512)
Exactly what were you watching? Obviously not the game if you really need to ask that question. FWIW, I'm good friends with an extremely prominent former Giants player who you'd know quite well and even he has a similar opinion.

I'd like to add that this friend of mine (can't say who) also told me that he expects the NFL to announce an apology to the Giants regarding the poor (a.k.a. skewed) officiating. He also expects (was told) the apology to be made public information. So if I know that, I'm not yanking your stogie brother.
Sounds like a former Giant I actually worked for in the early 90's who might have snorted away his brains based on his behavior.

I'm guessing you and your prominent Giant friend are talking about the roughing the passer call at the end? I watched the whole game and besides that, it looked to be fairly balanced officiating.

MoreBeer 01-16-2012 07:33 PM
Re: Packer fan thoughts
 
That, a few other things and of course the fumble which was miraculously not a fumble although a one eyed man with glaucoma could easily see on instant replay that it was, in fact, a fumble.

floydpink 01-16-2012 07:36 PM
Re: Packer fan thoughts
 
So the NFL will be making a public appology regarding the calls?

Thanks for breaking it here first!

pnoon 01-16-2012 07:38 PM
Re: Packer fan thoughts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MoreBeer (Post 1532512)
Exactly what were you watching? Obviously not the game if you really need to ask that question. FWIW, I'm good friends with an extremely prominent former Giants player who you'd know quite well and even he has a similar opinion.

I'd like to add that this friend of mine (can't say who) also told me that he expects the NFL to announce an apology to the Giants regarding the poor (a.k.a. skewed) officiating. He also expects (was told) the apology to be made public information. So if I know that, I'm not yanking your stogie brother.
Obviously humility is not your strong suit. Welcome to Cigar Asylum.

I do not contend that there were some questionable calls. There are in every game. What I was asking about is what you based your "not opinion-fact" statement on. As a new member here, nobody knows you from Adam. So why would anyone here take your statements as absolute fact?

pnoon 01-16-2012 07:41 PM
Re: Packer fan thoughts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by floydpink (Post 1532516)
Sounds like a former Giant I actually worked for in the early 90's who might have snorted away his brains based on his behavior.

I'm guessing you and your prominent Giant friend are talking about the roughing the passer call at the end? I watched the whole game and besides that, it looked to be fairly balanced officiating.
Pete - I agree wholeheartedly that the call was suspect.
Given that, allow me to don my :tf

floydpink 01-16-2012 07:43 PM
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Well, at least it allowed the Packers to get an extra 7 points!

I'm dying to know who this prominent and prophetic former Giant is, and put my money on the BLT without bacon?

mkarnold1 01-16-2012 07:47 PM
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The fumble was a pretty crappy call and I thought that the roughing the passer was weak as well. That being said, it's all subjective and as a Vikings fan rooting against the Pack I am biased. Any time there is information that is subjective it can interpreted differently by everyone, and as such there can be no "facts" about it.

MoreBeer 01-16-2012 07:49 PM
Re: Packer fan thoughts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by floydpink (Post 1532534)
So the NFL will be making a public appology regarding the calls?

Thanks for breaking it here first!
No, the NFL will make an apology to the Giants and the apology will be permitted to be released, as not required to be held in confidence between the Giants and the NFL.

floydpink 01-16-2012 07:52 PM
Re: Packer fan thoughts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MoreBeer (Post 1532554)
No, the NFL will make an apology to the Giants and the apology will be permitted to be released, as not required to be held in confidence between the Giants and the NFL.
Ahhh, I see.

I hope the Giants beat the Pats again in the Super Bowl, as the Mayan calendar I have shows this to be the last Super Bowl ever.

MoreBeer 01-16-2012 07:56 PM
Re: Packer fan thoughts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by floydpink (Post 1532562)
Ahhh, I see.

I hope the Giants beat the Pats again in the Super Bowl, as the Mayan calendar I have shows this to be the last Super Bowl ever.

F-ing good one!

floydpink 01-16-2012 08:02 PM
Re: Packer fan thoughts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MoreBeer (Post 1532554)
No, the NFL will make an apology to the Giants and the apology will be permitted to be released, as not required to be held in confidence between the Giants and the NFL.
So the players aren't required to double pinky swear to keep it a secret?

pnoon 01-16-2012 08:03 PM
Re: Packer fan thoughts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by floydpink (Post 1532579)
So the players aren't required to double pinky swear to keep it a secret?
:=:

MarkinAZ 01-16-2012 09:06 PM
Re: Packer fan thoughts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by floydpink (Post 1532562)
Ahhh, I see.

I hope the Giants beat the Pats again in the Super Bowl, as the Mayan calendar I have shows this to be the last Super Bowl ever.
...I usually rely upon my secret decoder ring in lieu of the Mayan calendar Pete;)

Quote:
Originally Posted by floydpink (Post 1532579)
So the players aren't required to double pinky swear to keep it a secret?
Only if preceded by a double dawg dare:tu

Volusianator 01-16-2012 09:25 PM
Re: Packer fan thoughts
 
I'm as big of a Packer fan as there is, and I thought they were weak calls as well.


Quote:
Originally Posted by mkarnold1 (Post 1532552)
The fumble was a pretty crappy call and I thought that the roughing the passer was weak as well. That being said, it's all subjective and as a Vikings fan rooting against the Pack I am biased.

Adriftpanda 01-16-2012 11:22 PM
Re: Packer fan thoughts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MoreBeer (Post 1532424)
Amazing they lost when its was obvious the NFL gave clear and absolute instruction to the Officials to make certain the Packers win. There's no theory in that conspiracy. Just fact.

Now, the Giants go all the way and beat the Patriots "again" in the Super Bowl.
Want be BFFs with me and tell me what games to bet!!! Pretty please pretty please!

If you happen to know Tim Donaghy as well, ask him when he is coming back to the NBA, I haven't touched a NBA game in a while.

icehog3 01-16-2012 11:31 PM
Re: Packer fan thoughts
 
I used to work out with a former catcher from the Boston Red Sox and he never said anything about orders to NFL officials to fix the Packers game.

Please don't ask me who he was, but I will tell you he never said anything about a public apology either.

RevSmoke 01-17-2012 07:11 AM
Re: Packer fan thoughts
 
So has anybody sniffed anything of a public apology - or even a minimal apology to the Giants? I went searching the web to find something, and there is nothing of any sort or nature out there.

I have said for years that games are fixed and officiating is often in cahoots. Players on both teams appear to do things that don't make any sense, except that they are trying to make a certain team successful and they're paid to help out in that.

Then I realized something after playing referee a few time...
...Men are fallible. Sometimes, their failures are plainly evident. Sometimes, they are not. Usually, it isn't because they are trying to biased in any way, it is because what they see can be perceived differently from different angles.

We the two calls discussed here bad in my opinion? Yes! Is it possible that they saw something that made them make such calls? Yes! For example, Rodgers head and neck took quite a jolt on that hit - although, it was because he was knocked into someone, and not because he was intentionally hit that way. If all you focused on was Rodges, and the way he was bounced around, it could have looked like he was hit intentionally.

Sometimes, you cannot see the forest for the trees - too focused on one thing, that you miss the big picture.

Show me any sport, any game, and you will find bad calls and missed calls by refs. Sometimes glaring, for they have an impact on score. Sometimes, minor.

Bottom line? Packers played poorly, Giants played well, refs were bad. Giants won. Packers lost.

Peace of the Lord be with you.

Stephen 01-17-2012 07:30 AM
Re: Packer fan thoughts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MoreBeer (Post 1532424)
Amazing they lost when its was obvious the NFL gave clear and absolute instruction to the Officials to make certain the Packers win. There's no theory in that conspiracy. Just fact.
Quote:
Originally Posted by MoreBeer (Post 1532512)
Exactly what were you watching? Obviously not the game if you really need to ask that question. FWIW, I'm good friends with an extremely prominent former Giants player who you'd know quite well and even he has a similar opinion.
Does not compute.

Stephen 01-17-2012 07:40 AM
Re: Packer fan thoughts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by goomer (Post 1532476)
I wonder why he didn't fly?
You thought Snakes on a Plane was terrifying? I can't even begin to imagine the horrors of Lobsters on a Plane...

icehog3 01-17-2012 08:30 AM
Re: Packer fan thoughts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MoreBeer (Post 1532424)
Amazing they lost when its was obvious the NFL gave clear and absolute instruction to the Officials to make certain the Packers win. There's no theory in that conspiracy. Just fact.
Why are any of you debating this. MoreBeer has already told you it's not a theory, it is fact. That should be the end of it.




:lr

Stephen 01-17-2012 08:38 AM
Re: Packer fan thoughts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1532905)
Why are any of you debating this. MoreBeer has already told you it's not a theory, it is fact. That should be the end of it.




:lr
"So let it be written; so let it be done."
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/--4qonI5wub...0/ramses09.jpg

icehog3 01-17-2012 08:40 AM
Re: Packer fan thoughts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 1532915)
"So let it be written; so let it be done."
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/--4qonI5wub...0/ramses09.jpg
:D :tu

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/--4qonI5wub...0/ramses09.jpg


"His god......is God".

longknocker 01-17-2012 08:46 AM
Re: Packer fan thoughts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1532905)
Why are any of you debating this. MoreBeer has already told you it's not a theory, it is fact. That should be the end of it.




:lr
Kind Of Like "The Rule Of Threes"? :D

icehog3 01-17-2012 08:48 AM
Re: Packer fan thoughts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by longknocker (Post 1532925)
Kind Of Like "The Rule Of Threes"? :D
Eerily similar, Greg. :r

Stephen 01-17-2012 09:10 AM
Re: Packer fan thoughts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1532918)
I think I know who his friend might be...
http://images.yuku.com.s3.amazonaws....087e9c43_r.jpg

Emjaysmash 01-17-2012 09:58 AM
Re: Packer fan thoughts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 1532935)
I think I know who his friend might be...
http://images.yuku.com.s3.amazonaws....087e9c43_r.jpg
The glowing bush? LOL

Stephen 01-17-2012 02:04 PM
Re: Packer fan thoughts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Emjaysmash (Post 1532968)
The glowing bush? LOL
Don't make Charlton Heston get up out of his grave and shoot you.

14holestogie 02-05-2012 10:35 AM
Re: Packer fan thoughts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 1517758)
Based on Flynn's performance, Rodgers clearly is not the MVP. Packers are still dominant without him.
My vote would be for Drew Brees.
:2
I wonder who had the other vote. ;)
48-2 for your NFL MVP, Aaron Rodgers. :tu

pnoon 02-05-2012 11:20 AM
Re: Packer fan thoughts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 14holestogie (Post 1550211)
I wonder who had the other vote. ;)
48-2 for your NFL MVP, Aaron Rodgers. :tu
:r

Touché, Tim. I pretty well thought he WOULD win it. I just have different criteria than those whose votes matter.

14holestogie 02-05-2012 11:25 AM
Re: Packer fan thoughts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 1550241)
:r

Touché, Tim. I pretty well thought he WOULD win it. I just have different criteria than those whose votes matter.
:r Sorry, Peter. I couldn't resist.

pnoon 02-05-2012 11:33 AM
Re: Packer fan thoughts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 14holestogie (Post 1550245)
:r Sorry, Peter. I couldn't resist.
All in good fun, Brother. :)

pnoon 02-05-2012 11:35 AM
Re: Packer fan thoughts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MoreBeer (Post 1532512)
Exactly what were you watching? Obviously not the game if you really need to ask that question. FWIW, I'm good friends with an extremely prominent former Giants player who you'd know quite well and even he has a similar opinion.

I'd like to add that this friend of mine (can't say who) also told me that he expects the NFL to announce an apology to the Giants regarding the poor (a.k.a. skewed) officiating. He also expects (was told) the apology to be made public information. So if I know that, I'm not yanking your stogie brother.
Quote:
Originally Posted by MoreBeer (Post 1532554)
No, the NFL will make an apology to the Giants and the apology will be permitted to be released, as not required to be held in confidence between the Giants and the NFL.
Am I the only one who missed this "public apology"?
:lr

deaster25 03-21-2012 11:31 AM
Re: Packer fan thoughts
 
Donald Driver just posted this to Facebook. "Big announcement coming!". Anyone have an idea of what this might be?

dave 03-21-2012 11:51 AM
Re: Packer fan thoughts
 
Hopefully not "I tore my ACL DWTS'ing"

RevSmoke 03-21-2012 11:54 AM
Re: Packer fan thoughts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by deaster25 (Post 1596093)
Donald Driver just posted this to Facebook. "Big announcement coming!". Anyone have an idea of what this might be?
He's up for free agency....

Or, he might be retiring.

Or... He's willing to renegotiate to free money for the salary cap.


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