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Blak Smyth 01-07-2012 01:57 PM

Re: What are you roasting today?
 
Last batch
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/...s/42babde8.jpg

CigarSquid 01-07-2012 02:00 PM

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I like it dark. I want to try more and different levels, but am scared. I have never been a fan of light coffee, So I do not want to waste it.

Blak Smyth 01-07-2012 02:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garryyjr (Post 1523782)
I like it dark. I want to try more and different levels, but am scared. I have never been a fan of light coffee, So I do not want to waste it.

The image I showed above is about as light as I like it, I was very good in fact. The next roast I did was a different bean and seemed to get a little darker.

CigarSquid 01-07-2012 02:11 PM

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I will experiment some more.. As time goes on.

Mr B 01-09-2012 10:50 AM

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Lookin Good Shane. What are you roasting with?

Blak Smyth 01-09-2012 11:04 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr B (Post 1525334)
Lookin Good Shane. What are you roasting with?

Same as Garry, the Nesco.

BSB 01-10-2012 10:16 AM

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Costa Rica Los Nacientes to FC, yesterday morning. Cupping tomorrow. From SM

Mr B 01-10-2012 11:19 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Blak Smyth (Post 1525355)
Same as Garry, the Nesco.


Very even color. Looks nice. Good job.

Blak Smyth 01-10-2012 12:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr B (Post 1526383)
Very even color. Looks nice. Good job.

Thanks, I think I have finally got the hang of it.

The only draw backs to this roaster so far are:

Cons:
A) takes longer to roast than most roasters
B) takes 5 minutes to cool
C) low capacity
D) doesn't seperate chaff well

Pros:
A) easy to clean
B) easy to opperate
C) remembers the last roast time setting
D) has a good aggitator that helps even roast
E) inexpensive

Savor the Stick 01-10-2012 04:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garryyjr (Post 1518155)
Can you roast beans that have already been roasted?

NO!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blak Smyth (Post 1519081)
I don't think you can reroast. If it isn't dark enough for you, try less beans on your next roast.

You're right!:tu

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blak Smyth (Post 1523778)

Looking really, really good, very even roast. Most of the chaff is roasted off--maybe (like you said later) a longer roasting time will cause those beans to open up a little more.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blak Smyth (Post 1526403)
Thanks, I think I have finally got the hang of it.

The only draw backs to this roaster so far are:

Cons:
A) takes longer to roast than most roasters
B) takes 5 minutes to cool
C) low capacity
D) doesn't separate chaff well

Pros:
A) easy to clean
B) easy to operate
C) remembers the last roast time setting
D) has a good agitator that helps even roast
E) inexpensive

Yep sounds like it. I like my roaster it has a fan knob that I can slow down the fan, or speed it up if I want to speed up the roasting process. Also has a very good chaff collection process.:tu

But I have forever ruined you for 7-11, AM-PM mini mart, etc. coffee. Once you've had the best, can't handle the rest. :D:D

BSB 01-12-2012 08:45 AM

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El Salvador El Carrizal to FC

ApexAZ 01-12-2012 09:30 AM

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I just had my first cup of home roasted sweet marias espresso blend Gneiss (#20) and WOW, what a good cup of coffee!

I made a keurig drip with it first followed by an aeropress americano at work and dang, it's really good. It's especially good from the aeropress.

Anyone want to buy a used Keurig? :)

Blak Smyth 01-12-2012 10:08 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ApexAZ (Post 1528026)
I just had my first cup of home roasted sweet marias espresso blend Gneiss (#20) and WOW, what a good cup of coffee!

I made a keurig drip with it first followed by an aeropress americano at work and dang, it's really good. It's especially good from the aeropress.

Anyone want to buy a used Keurig? :)

:r My Keurig is an expensive hot water maker now:tu

Blak Smyth 01-12-2012 11:41 AM

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Ordered some more beans today:
(1 Lb each)

El Salvador Finca La Montanita Bourbon
Espresso Monkey Blend
Moka Kadir Blend

Mr B 01-12-2012 12:41 PM

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Sounds good Blak.

Blak Smyth 01-12-2012 12:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr B (Post 1528276)
Sounds good Blak.

I have no idea what I am ordering, haha. I just picked a couple of cool sounding names:tu
Who wouldn't order Monkey Blend? Really!

CigarSquid 01-12-2012 01:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Blak Smyth (Post 1528300)
I have no idea what I am ordering, haha. I just picked a couple of cool sounding names:tu
Who wouldn't order Monkey Blend? Really!

Exactly. I seen that name, and thought. I must check that out as soon as I get home.. and 99.9% sure I need to order it.:tu:dr

Blak Smyth 01-12-2012 02:02 PM

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My last batch came out nice, dark & oily:
http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/a...-39-30_394.jpg

CigarSquid 01-12-2012 02:09 PM

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That looks good!

BSB 01-12-2012 03:23 PM

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Looks WAY too dark! I believe recommended roast is to City - FC and I found it more true to description at City+ Dang, that's gotta be close to French roast, all you are gonna taste is the roast when it's that dark.

Mr B 01-12-2012 03:45 PM

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I completely disagree. That looks like a good Full City +, maybe creeping toward Vienna.
Remember, roast how you like it. Nobody should tell you what cigars you should like and no one should tell you what roast you should like.

Enjoy it Blak.

Mr B 01-12-2012 03:47 PM

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Remember Blak, the darker the roast, the longer you should let it rest. give that at least 3 days before trying. it may be better in 4-5 also.

ApexAZ 01-12-2012 04:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Blak Smyth (Post 1528300)
I have no idea what I am ordering, haha. I just picked a couple of cool sounding names:tu
Who wouldn't order Monkey Blend? Really!

I got some of that in my 4 lb sampler. It's next on my list once I exhaust the Gniess.

This raises a question for me. Should I expect a less uniform roast from the espresso blends? I noticed I have some variance in bean color; some darker, some lighter, etc. Is this due to the fact that it's a blend, or is it something I did wrong? I used a stovetop popper.

Mr B 01-12-2012 04:46 PM

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There will be some variation on color. Sometimes 3-4 different beans in the blend. Different sizes also roast at different speeds. Wet Hulled / Dry Huled, this will all come into play while roasting.

BSB 01-12-2012 04:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr B (Post 1528519)
I completely disagree. That looks like a good Full City +, maybe creeping toward Vienna.
Remember, roast how you like it. Nobody should tell you what cigars you should like and no one should tell you what roast you should like.

Enjoy it Blak.

But it sure doesn't hurt, when someone tries to guide you in the right direction.
The whole idea behind buying the high quality coffee, like we get from SM, is to fully experience what coffee has to offer. The darker you roast the coffee, the more the varietal flavors disappear and the roast flavors tend to dominate.
I suggest looking for Kenneth Davids' "Home Coffee Roasting, Romance & Revival" An excellent reference for the home coffee roaster.

Mr B 01-12-2012 05:26 PM

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I hear ya.
Before I started roasting my own, I thought all I liked was French Roast. Now, all I drink is roasted to city + to Full City +. If I accidently go beyond that, lets say Vienna, I dont toss it out by any means. I either used it to blend with other lighter roasts or give it to someone who I know will enjoy that darker roast.

Its amazing to see how many people get basically converted from "all I like is French" to "Wow" that lighter roast is great".

But dont be afraid to brew up those darker roasts to see which beans can handle it better than others.
Sometimes you cant get those "chocolates" to come out until you reach that Full City / Full City+ or even Light Vienna ranges.

BSB 01-12-2012 06:57 PM

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I roast almost evrything FC-FC+. I LOVE the chocolate flavors and you are right, you gotta go dark enough to get them.
When I said "too dark", I was speaking specificly to that coffee, the Bolivia Beneficio. I just roasted it last week to FC-FC+ and it wasn't what I expected. Went ahead and roasted another small batch to city-city+ and it hit the mark.

CigarSquid 01-12-2012 08:41 PM

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I like them dark.. for now. I still have so much to learn it is overwhelming. I do not want to try light roast cuz I am scared I will not like them.

I do not understand this city+, full, vienna... I am so lost at this right now.

ApexAZ 01-12-2012 09:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garryyjr (Post 1528786)
I like them dark.. for now. I still have so much to learn it is overwhelming. I do not want to try light roast cuz I am scared I will not like them.

I do not understand this city+, full, vienna... I am so lost at this right now.

Sweet Marias has pretty good info that you should look at. They have an extensive library of information.

But basically, the city, city +, full city, full city +, light Vienna, Vienna, French, etc are all different degrees of roast in that order starting at first crack. Where I get confused is when each starts and ends. I know city roast is around first crack, but is it when first crack just begins, or when it ends?

CigarSquid 01-12-2012 09:05 PM

Re: What are you roasting today?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blak Smyth (Post 1528193)
Ordered some more beans today:
(1 Lb each)

El Salvador Finca La Montanita Bourbon
Espresso Monkey Blend
Moka Kadir Blend

Where did you order from? I really want to check out the monkey blend.

CigarSquid 01-12-2012 09:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ApexAZ (Post 1528800)
Sweet Marias has pretty good info that you should look at. They have an extensive library of information.

But basically, the city, city +, full city, full city +, light Vienna, Vienna, French, etc are all different degrees of roast in that order starting at first crack. Where I get confused is when each starts and ends. I know city roast is around first crack, but is it when first crack just begins, or when it ends?

I have been trying to study this.

https://www.sweetmarias.com/library/...e-degree-roast

ApexAZ 01-12-2012 09:09 PM

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If he's talking of the same monkey blend I just got, it comes from sweet Maria's.

ApexAZ 01-12-2012 09:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garryyjr (Post 1528807)

Try this: http://www.sweetmarias.com/instructions.php#nutshell

Edit: I actually answered my own question by reading that again :)

CigarSquid 01-12-2012 09:13 PM

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Oh, I like that.. I didn't get there yet. Thanks!

Blak Smyth 01-13-2012 05:48 AM

Re: What are you roasting today?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr B (Post 1528519)
I completely disagree. That looks like a good Full City +, maybe creeping toward Vienna.
Remember, roast how you like it. Nobody should tell you what cigars you should like and no one should tell you what roast you should like.

Enjoy it Blak.

I think it did hit Vienna because there where a couple small fragments off the bean.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BSB (Post 1528568)
But it sure doesn't hurt, when someone tries to guide you in the right direction.
The whole idea behind buying the high quality coffee, like we get from SM, is to fully experience what coffee has to offer. The darker you roast the coffee, the more the varietal flavors disappear and the roast flavors tend to dominate.
I suggest looking for Kenneth Davids' "Home Coffee Roasting, Romance & Revival" An excellent reference for the home coffee roaster.

I appreciate the tips. I will pay more attention to the recommended roast stages on the beans from now on. I just hate seeing the chaff inside the bean so I go darker. I will check Barnes and Nobles for that book this weekend.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ApexAZ (Post 1528810)
If he's talking of the same monkey blend I just got, it comes from sweet Maria's.

Yes that is the one:tu

CigarSquid 01-13-2012 07:42 AM

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What do you guys store your roasted beans in?

Blak Smyth 01-13-2012 07:50 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garryyjr (Post 1529176)
What do you guys store your roasted beans in?

That is a good question, I currently put them in freezer bags and put that inside of a Crown Royal bag to shield from the light.

Mr B 01-13-2012 09:24 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garryyjr (Post 1529176)
What do you guys store your roasted beans in?

I only do small amounts (about enough to get me through the week) and I usually make 3-4 kinds so I can have a variety. I keep them in Zip-Lock bags inside of a small box to keep them from the light.

BSB 01-13-2012 09:31 AM

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I use stainless steel canisters with the clamp down seal. Also, just before Christmas, I got some pretty cool de-gassing canisters from Sweet Maries. They are cheap, but seem to work well and cost under $5 each. Don't know if they still have them, but if they do, I recommend.

ApexAZ 01-13-2012 02:39 PM

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I roasted the last of my SM Gneiss espresso blend. I used the remainder of the bag (about 11 oz) and I think it may have been a little too much.

I was shooting for Full City. I think I came close. Some Full City+/Light Vienna on some of it though. The blend makes it hard to get a uniform roast, or I'm still just learning. Maybe a little of both.

Would you say this is Full City? Sorry for the poor iPhone quality.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7010/6...a496a70e_z.jpg

Mr B 01-13-2012 03:29 PM

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Looks to me like City + to Full City. But closer to City +. At least from what it looks like on my screen.

BSB 01-14-2012 10:24 AM

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Really hard to tell, but from the color, I'd say city+, too.
When I roast, I don't really even look at the coffee, I stay tuned into the sound. 1st crack begins, 1st crack ends, then I'm right on top of it, 2nd crack begins, switch to cool. This varies depending on the roast I'm shooting for. But mostly this will give me a very nice Full City roast.

ApexAZ 01-14-2012 11:06 AM

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Thanks. The beans are actually a little darker than the photo. I went about 1 minute past the end of 1st crack.

BSB 01-15-2012 09:39 PM

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El Salvador Matalapa - Tablon El Naranjo
I kinda screwed up the roast on this. I thought I stopped the 1st batch, just as 2nd crack started, but it came out lighter than I thought it would. On the 2nd batch, I waited till I was sure 2nd crack had started and it was quite a bit longer than the 1st batch went. So, I let the 2nd roll into 2nd crack pretty good. What I got is 50-50% city+ and FC+ Should be interesting, as SM description says from city+ to Vienna is the range for this coffee. Cupping on Tuesday :cf2

Blak Smyth 01-16-2012 08:17 AM

Re: What are you roasting today?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ApexAZ (Post 1529597)
I roasted the last of my SM Gneiss espresso blend. I used the remainder of the bag (about 11 oz) and I think it may have been a little too much.

I was shooting for Full City. I think I came close. Some Full City+/Light Vienna on some of it though. The blend makes it hard to get a uniform roast, or I'm still just learning. Maybe a little of both.

Would you say this is Full City? Sorry for the poor iPhone quality.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7010/6...a496a70e_z.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr B (Post 1529626)
Looks to me like City + to Full City. But closer to City +. At least from what it looks like on my screen.

I would say city+ as well. I don't like to roast this light because I hate to see so much chaff on the bean. This is something I am trying to overlook so I can make a roast that is best for the bean. I have roasted mostly to vienna or just under. It is hard to judge with my machine beacuse you can't hear the cracks. Thanks for posting pictures, It is helpful to see what your beans are looking like guys!

CigarSquid 01-16-2012 08:18 AM

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Blak Smyth, What machine do you use?

Blak Smyth 01-16-2012 08:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garryyjr (Post 1531986)
Blak Smyth, What machine do you use?

Same as you I believe, the Nesco!

CigarSquid 01-16-2012 08:28 AM

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Yep. It is hard to hear the crack. I heard a few yesterday while roasting.

BSB 01-16-2012 08:37 AM

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WOW! Roasting, without hearing the cracks, is incomprehensible to me.

Blak Smyth 01-16-2012 08:39 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BSB (Post 1532010)
WOW! Roasting, without hearing the cracks, is incomprehensible to me.

Yah I try to hear it but it is hard. I have to run a fan to keep my house from stinking to bad, that and the roaster are just too loud to hear the crack. Unless my ears are aging and I just can't hear it. I wouldn't recommend the Nesco but I don't regret buying it for the price. I do seem to get a very even roast, just have a hard time hitting the perfect roast mark. I almost have to get lucky.


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