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BengalMan 02-27-2009 09:02 PM

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Just poured a glass of George Stagg, love this stuff...

Darrell 02-27-2009 09:02 PM

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I have a bottle of Bourbon that Bobarian gave me for Christmas. How are you supposed to drink this stuff?

BengalMan 02-27-2009 09:19 PM

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Bourbon is best drank IMO with one ice cube per shot. I've found that while drinking it straight without ice will give you a great flavor profile, adding an ice cube per ounce really brings the flavors out.

Darrell 02-27-2009 09:48 PM

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I don't think it's for me. I had some with some ice. The fire from it almost shut my throat down. :r

BC-Axeman 02-27-2009 10:02 PM

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Sounds like you need help, just want to say that I'm here for you, D. :D

awsmith4 02-27-2009 10:27 PM

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I picked up some Old Rip Van Winkle 10yr 90proof tonight and its pretty tasty. Tomorrow I think I'll go back and get the 10yr 107proof.

thebiglebowski 02-28-2009 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by awsmith4 (Post 261751)
I picked up some Old Rip Van Winkle 10yr 90proof tonight and its pretty tasty. Tomorrow I think I'll go back and get the 10yr 107proof.

awsmith - any pappy is good stuff. if you can, try the 20 year old. oh my...

still saving up for a bottle of the 23 year old... it's either that or a box of siglo IIIs! :ss

WildBlueSooner 02-28-2009 09:10 AM

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I just cant understand some of the bourbon selections in here. Different strokes for different folks. I lived in Central KY for 14 years and have been to almost every distillery in the area. My favorites are:

Four Roses Single Barrel
Evan Williams Single Barrel Vintage
1792 Barrel Select

And I know a few master distillers personally. There are secrets in the bourbon industry!

JohnnyFlake 02-28-2009 11:22 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Darrell (Post 261663)
I don't think it's for me. I had some with some ice. The fire from it almost shut my throat down. :r

Try diluting it slightly. Use Spring Water, not tap water, as it has chlorine in it. Buy some spring water, about a buck for a gallon. Place some water in the frig and wait a few hours so it get nice and cold. Mix it at one shot of booze to 1/2 shot of cold Spring Water (no ice).Let it set for a minute or two and then try sipping it. The water will open up the flavors slightly and should dilute the alcohol enough to stop any real bite from it.

If that doesn't work for you, then bourbon may not be your thing. Using more water will only ruin a true bourbon experience.

BTW what is the proof of the bourbon your trying to drink?

BengalMan 02-28-2009 01:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WildBlueSooner (Post 262281)
I just cant understand some of the bourbon selections in here. Different strokes for different folks. I lived in Central KY for 14 years and have been to almost every distillery in the area. My favorites are:

Four Roses Single Barrel
Evan Williams Single Barrel Vintage
1792 Barrel Select

And I know a few master distillers personally. There are secrets in the bourbon industry!

Your right, everyone likes different things. Me personally, I'm not very much a fan of the Evan Williams or the 1792. I think they're ok, but there are plenty others that I'd grab for before those.

newcigarz 02-28-2009 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by WildBlueSooner (Post 262281)
I just cant understand some of the bourbon selections in here.

I guess I don't understand this statement. Care to expand?:confused:

JohnnyFlake 02-28-2009 02:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WildBlueSooner (Post 262281)
I just cant understand some of the bourbon selections in here. Different strokes for different folks. I lived in Central KY for 14 years and have been to almost every distillery in the area. My favorites are:

Four Roses Single Barrel
Evan Williams Single Barrel Vintage
1792 Barrel Select

And I know a few master distillers personally. There are secrets in the bourbon industry!

Can you clarify what it is that you mean by the above statement?

WildBlueSooner 02-28-2009 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyFlake (Post 262729)
Can you clarify what it is that you mean by the above statement?

I dont know how to make it much clearer. I guess I was just surprised at certain bourbons that were listed and others I did not see pop up too often. And I dont just mean the ones I listed because those were listed a couple times. Not saying it is a bad thing..I think it is great that different people enjoy different bourbons...same thing for cigars! I happen to like most bourbons, just some more than others.

Happy drinking and happy smoking!

Heatmiser 03-01-2009 12:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WildBlueSooner (Post 262281)
I just cant understand some of the bourbon selections in here. Different strokes for different folks. I lived in Central KY for 14 years and have been to almost every distillery in the area. My favorites are:

Four Roses Single Barrel
Evan Williams Single Barrel Vintage
1792 Barrel Select

And I know a few master distillers personally. There are secrets in the bourbon industry!

Different strokes for different folks is exactly what I thought after reading this post. Of his list of favorites, the only one I like is the Four Roses SB, which is quite good. Of course, there is an extensive list of other bourbons I would take over Four Roses.

newcigarz 03-01-2009 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by WildBlueSooner (Post 262905)
I dont know how to make it much clearer. I guess I was just surprised at certain bourbons that were listed and others I did not see pop up too often.

I don't want to make this into a big thing either. But I am still not sure what you mean by your comment and I don't think it is clear at all.

Which Bourbons in particular suprise you? Eagle Rare, Stagg, Knob Creek, or something else? What surprises you about these or others? their price, their
availability, their taste? And these secrets? If you have insider knowledge about the bourbon industry that's great, but why elude to it here without some expectation of curiousity?

I just feel to throw a statement out there in this thread caused a least two members to say huh? :confused:

WildBlueSooner 03-01-2009 08:26 AM

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Ok I guess I am more suprised by what I did not see or see very often to include:

Old Weller
Elijah Craig SB
Hancocks Reserve
Jefferson Reserve
Old Rip Van Winkle
Blantons
Bookers

Also as far as secrets if you drink certain "premium" bourbons next to certain "cheap" bourbons, you will see how eerily similar they taste.

lightning9191 03-01-2009 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by WildBlueSooner (Post 263925)

Also as far as secrets if you drink certain "premium" bourbons next to certain "cheap" bourbons, you will see how eerily similar they taste.

Any "cheap" bourbons we should try?

Heatmiser 03-01-2009 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by WildBlueSooner (Post 263925)
Also as far as secrets if you drink certain "premium" bourbons next to certain "cheap" bourbons, you will see how eerily similar they taste.

I always thought that bourbon barrels that fit a particular taste profile are bottled accordingly and that there are a number of different brands that can come from the same stock. Usually the honey barrels would go to the premium brands. Of course this is what I have come to understand but please inform me if this is incorrect...

BengalMan 03-01-2009 12:58 PM

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There are plenty of cheap bourbons that are VERY good. They include:

Old Rip Van Winkle 10 - 90 proof
Ancient Ancient Age 10 year old
Very Old Barton 100
Rittenhouse Rye Bottled-in-Bond
Old Fitzgerald 1849
Old Forester 100 proof Signature

Hope this helps.

newcigarz 03-01-2009 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BengalMan (Post 264299)
There are plenty of cheap bourbons that are VERY good. They include:

Old Rip Van Winkle 10 - 90 proof
Ancient Ancient Age 10 year old
Very Old Barton 100
Rittenhouse Rye Bottled-in-Bond
Old Fitzgerald 1849
Old Forester 100 proof Signature

Hope this helps.

Yep nobody said expensive = good. Though some products are worth the money IMHO.

lightning9191 03-01-2009 01:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BengalMan (Post 264299)
There are plenty of cheap bourbons that are VERY good. They include:

Old Rip Van Winkle 10 - 90 proof
Ancient Ancient Age 10 year old
Very Old Barton 100
Rittenhouse Rye Bottled-in-Bond
Old Fitzgerald 1849
Old Forester 100 proof Signature

Hope this helps.

Thanx for the suggestions....I'll have to check some of these out:tu.

WildBlueSooner 03-01-2009 01:35 PM

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I second the Old Forester! It is "cheap" wink wink

JohnnyFlake 03-01-2009 02:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lightning9191 (Post 264022)
Any "cheap" bourbons we should try?

This list I posted earlier in this thread may help with some suggestions:

For those of you that may be interested, I had put together a listing of what I considered Good/Great Whiskey, at very reasonable pricing. ($25 or less, and $15 or less). I did this about seven or eight months ago, so I believe the pricing is still accurate. Of course, this list is based on my humble opinions! I have, at one time or another, tasted ever one on this list!

This mark *, after a listing, designates a personal favorite:

Great Rye for under $25 a bottle:
Wild Turkey Rye 50.5*

Good Rye for under $15 a bottle:
Jim Beam Rye*
Old Overholt Rye

Great Bourbon/Whiskey for under $25 a bottle:
Maker's Mark Bourbon*
Old Grand Dad Bonded Bourbon 100 proof*
Old Grand Dad Bourbon 114 proof
Buffalo Trace Bourbon
Wild Turkey Bourbon 101 proof
Canadian Club Reserve 10 Year Old Blended Canadian
Canadian Club Classic 12 Year Old Blended Canadian
W. L. Weller 12 Year Old Bourbon
W. L. Weller 7 Year Old Bourbon
Four Roses Bourbon, Small Batch*
Crown Royal Canadian Blended
Jameson Irish whiskey
Bushmills Irish Whiskey
Power & Son - Irish whiskey*

Great Bourbon/Whiskey for under $15 a bottle:
Old Fitzgerald Bourbon 100 proof*
Old Fitzgerald 1849 Bourbon 90 proof
Old Forester Bourbon 86 proof – America’s very first bourbon!*
Old Grand Dad Bourbon 86 proof
Old Grand Dad Bourbon 100 proof*
Jim Beam Choice 5 Year Old Bourbon*
Jim Beam White Label 4 Year Old Bourbon

Good Bourbon/Whiskey for under $15 a bottle:
Early Times Kentucky Whiskey*
Seagrams VO Canadian Blended
Canadian Club 6 Year Old 100 Proof
Pendleton Canadian Blended
Four RosesBourbon 80 proof
JTS Brown Bourbon 80 proof
Seagram's VO 80 proof

GreekGodX 03-01-2009 02:27 PM

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I've been looking for some cheaper, good bourbons to try. Thanks for the list

newcigarz 03-01-2009 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyFlake (Post 264389)
This list I posted earlier in this thread may help with some suggestions:

You really should try to find the Rittenhouse bottled in bond. Best product under $15.00 I have ever had.

JohnnyFlake 03-01-2009 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by newcigarz (Post 264424)
You really should try to find the Rittenhouse bottled in bond. Best product under $15.00 I have ever had.

As I recall Rittenhouse is a Rye Whisky not a Bourbon. I think I did have it once or twice, the 100 proof bottling, but I don't recall very much about it. That had to be in the late 1980's or early 1990's. I am not sure how many different bottling's there are. I'll have to check it out.

As far as straight Rye's go, it's hard to beat the Van Winkle 13yo Family Reserve but it's a little pricey. I think it sells in the $40+ range but I'm not sure right now. I just opened a bottle yesterday and I still have another sealed bottle left. I had purchased a case back in the late 1980's. It has always been my favorite straight Rye Whiskey.

WildBlueSooner 03-01-2009 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyFlake (Post 264462)
As I recall Rittenhouse is a Rye Whisky not a Bourbon. I think I did have it once or twice, the 100 proof bottling, but I don't recall very much about it. That had to be in the late 1980's or early 1990's. I am not sure how many different bottling's there are. I'll have to check it out.

As far as straight Rye's go, it's hard to beat the Van Winkle 13yo Family Reserve but it's a little pricey. I think it sells in the $40+ range but I'm not sure right now. I just opened a bottle yesterday and I still have another sealed bottle left. I had purchased a case back in the late 1980's. It has always been my favorite straight Rye Whiskey.

Yes...many on this board seem to think several different types of whiskey are bourbon. This wiki article tells what makes a bourbon a bourbon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bourbon_whiskey

newcigarz 03-01-2009 04:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyFlake (Post 264462)
As I recall Rittenhouse is a Rye Whisky not a Bourbon.

Yes, I know it is not a Bourbon, the only reason I mentioned it is that you have several Ryes on your list and Rittenhouse was not on it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WildBlueSooner (Post 264469)
Yes...many on this board seem to think several different types of whiskey are bourbon. This wiki article tells what makes a bourbon a bourbon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bourbon_whiskey


You have a very condescending tone to your posts. Maybe we should all step aside and let you lecture us on Bourbon.:sleep:

newcigarz 03-01-2009 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by WildBlueSooner (Post 264469)

Oh yeah and wikipedia is the first place I would go to learn about Bourbon. They have good info on Cuban cigars too :r

Heatmiser 03-01-2009 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by newcigarz (Post 264549)
You have a very condescending tone to your posts. Maybe we should all step aside and let you lecture us on Bourbon.:sleep:

:tpd:

WildBlueSooner 03-01-2009 05:14 PM

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Ouch!

newcigarz 03-01-2009 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by WildBlueSooner (Post 264609)
Ouch!

Truth hurts. :rolleyes:

WildBlueSooner 03-01-2009 05:17 PM

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My bad gentleman. I will try to be more friendly in my posts. I apologize for sounding like a jerk...I did not mean to come off in such a way. One thing is frustrating though...when you order the house bourbon at a restaurant and the bring you something else..I learned to verify first. :)

WildBlueSooner 03-01-2009 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by newcigarz (Post 264612)
Truth hurts. :rolleyes:

I have a pain fetish...me likes it! :tu

newcigarz 03-01-2009 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by WildBlueSooner (Post 264617)
I have a pain fetish...me likes it! :tu

This hurts a little going down, but not much longer after that. Kinda tastes like Old Crow. :r


http://www.fototime.com/15BCEAF1C224FB8/standard.jpg

WildBlueSooner 03-01-2009 05:25 PM

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No this hurts....
http://www.bourbonenthusiast.com/dbimages/DSC_0490.jpg

Holy hell :fl

BengalMan 03-01-2009 08:52 PM

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Tonight's beverage was a glass of Four Roses 120th Anniversary. Great stuff, glad I have a few bottles of it!

WildBlueSooner 03-01-2009 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BengalMan (Post 265139)
Tonight's beverage was a glass of Four Roses 120th Anniversary. Great stuff, glad I have a few bottles of it!

Nice...I am jealous. I only had one bottle and it went quick! Good choice!

Darrell 03-01-2009 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by WildBlueSooner (Post 264634)

You think that's bad? Try the Tequila. :pu

cbsmokin 03-04-2009 05:44 PM

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I'm sipping on some Noah's Mill single barrel right now. 114.5 proof and I like it quite a bit, more so than other Bourbons in the same price neighborhood.

awsmith4 03-04-2009 11:47 PM

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Tonight Stewart (tech-ninja) and I herfed and we also had quite a few good bourbons. We started with Baker's the Elijah Craig 18 at the bar. Then back on the deck I had Elijah 12 and now I'm finishing with some George T. Stagg he graciously picked up for me. It has been a great bourbon and herfing night!

BengalMan 03-05-2009 11:13 PM

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I love the Elijah Craig 18, one of my new go to bourbon's along with Jefferson's Reserve

Genetic Defect 03-05-2009 11:36 PM

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:hm

BengalMan 03-06-2009 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Vito (Post 273616)
:hm

Umm, ok.:confused:

Genetic Defect 03-06-2009 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by BengalMan (Post 274300)
Umm, ok.:confused:

Big Vito thought this thread was a good source of intel ;)

BengalMan 03-07-2009 10:32 AM

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Ah gotcha. BengalMan was confused by just an emoticon. :)

Genetic Defect 03-07-2009 11:58 AM

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:r. Big vito sometimes writes in code

WildBlueSooner 03-07-2009 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BengalMan (Post 274300)
Umm, ok.:confused:

:al

Guitarman-S.T- 03-07-2009 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by WildBlueSooner (Post 275776)
:al

Code i finally understand ;) :dance:

BengalMan 03-07-2009 03:31 PM

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Just got back from The Party Source. Picked up Elijah Craig 18, Russell's Reserve Rye, and a bottle of Reyka vodka. I know this is a bourbon thread, and I started it, lol, but if any of you enjoy the occasional vodka martini or vodka straight up or the wife enjoys vodka, Reyka is THE vodka to get. It's hands down the BEST vodka I've had to date. It's so smooth it's scary. Anyways, I'm off to have a cigar and some Russell's Rye.


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