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kelmac07 02-20-2010 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by VirtualSmitty (Post 766486)
Looks like Damon is going to Detroit. Good pick up for the Tigers, that's for sure.

1 year for $ 7 million. He could have had that from the Yankees if he didn't trust BorASS!! Hope he gets used to losing...this year is going to a rough one on Detroit. Sorry Tom!!!

icehog3 02-20-2010 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by kelmac07 (Post 766586)
1 year for $ 7 million. He could have had that from the Yankees if he didn't trust BorASS!! Hope he gets used to losing...this year is going to a rough one on Detroit. Sorry Tom!!!

The years I think the Tigers are going to be good, they suck. So maybe with low expectations, they will actually be in the race, Mac! :r

MedicCook 02-20-2010 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by VirtualSmitty (Post 766486)
Looks like Damon is going to Detroit. Good pick up for the Tigers, that's for sure.

Which offer would you pick?

2 yrs $14M with the defending World Series Champions or 1 yr $8M for a team that will not even make the playoffs.

Johnny Damon free agency = FAIL!!!!

kelmac07 02-20-2010 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 766592)
The years I think the Tigers are going to be good, they suck. So maybe with low expectations, they will actually be in the race, Mac! :r

They do have Verlander!! :tu

Quote:

Originally Posted by MedicCook (Post 766593)
Which offer would you pick?

2 yrs $14M with the defending World Series Champions or 1 yr $8M for a team that will not even make the playoffs.

Johnny Damon free agency = FAIL!!!!

One word...BorASS!!! :td

MedicCook 02-20-2010 09:47 PM

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I would never negotiate with his firm if I was a GM or owner.

icehog3 02-20-2010 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by kelmac07 (Post 766606)
They do have Verlander!! :tu



One word...BorASS!!! :td

I wish Damon had signed with the Yankees too, maybe Detroit could have signed someone who wasn't on the decline.

Verlander can't do it all....maybe Dontrell Willis will suddenly become sane. :r

MedicCook 02-20-2010 09:48 PM

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Dontrell Willis? :r :r :r :r

icehog3 02-20-2010 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MedicCook (Post 766614)
Dontrell Willis? :r :r :r :r

I keed, I keed!! :r

MedicCook 02-20-2010 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 766618)
I keed, I keed!! :r

Maybe he will pull a Rick Ankiel and go to the OF.

VirtualSmitty 02-20-2010 09:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 766612)
I wish Damon had signed with the Yankees too, maybe Detroit could have signed someone who wasn't on the decline.

Verlander can't do it all....maybe Dontrell Willis will suddenly become sane. :r

I wish Damon resigned with the Yanks too, can't say i'm too excited about Randy Winn taking his place :td

Tigers could have a good year Tom. They do have some good young pitching behind Verlander, and a pretty decent offense.

MedicCook 02-20-2010 09:54 PM

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Randy Winn didn't take Damon's place, Curtis Granderson did. Winn is going to be the 4th outfielder.

kelmac07 02-20-2010 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MedicCook (Post 766624)
Maybe he will pull a Rick Ankiel and go to the OF.

That's as wrong as two boys in bed!! :r :r :r

icehog3 02-20-2010 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by VirtualSmitty (Post 766625)
Tigers could have a good year Tom. They do have some good young pitching behind Verlander, and a pretty decent offense.

Hope lives. :)

ChicagoWhiteSox 02-21-2010 10:26 AM

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We didn't need him anyway:D

ChicagoWhiteSox 02-21-2010 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by MedicCook (Post 766593)
Which offer would you pick?

2 yrs $14M with the defending World Series Champions or 1 yr $8M for a team that will not even make the playoffs.

Johnny Damon free agency = FAIL!!!!


:r:r

VirtualSmitty 02-21-2010 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by MedicCook (Post 766627)
Randy Winn didn't take Damon's place, Curtis Granderson did. Winn is going to be the 4th outfielder.

I don't think we'll know for sure until after spring training. Not like it really matters, neither Winn or Gardner can hit.

ChicagoWhiteSox 02-22-2010 06:29 PM

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Buehrle will start opening day for the white sox.

kelmac07 02-22-2010 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox (Post 768812)
Buehrle will start opening day for the white sox.

Saw this and was wondering why they are throwing Peavey second? :confused:

ChicagoWhiteSox 02-22-2010 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by kelmac07 (Post 768866)
Saw this and was wondering why they are throwing Peavey second? :confused:

Burls is more worthy of starting day.

kelmac07 02-22-2010 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox (Post 768923)
Burls is more worthy of starting day.

Not disagreeing!! :D Just wondering why they aren't using Peavey as the ace.

ChicagoWhiteSox 02-22-2010 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by kelmac07 (Post 768946)
Not disagreeing!! :D Just wondering why they aren't using Peavey as the ace.

This will be Buehrle's 8th opening day start in Chicago, we love him here, and it would be hard to see him not start on opening day. Don't get me wrong, Peavy is an ace pitcher and would get the nod in most other starting 5 rotations.

ChicagoWhiteSox 02-22-2010 08:01 PM

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Mac, Santana is pitching opening day right?

ChicagoWhiteSox 02-23-2010 02:37 PM

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The Braves have made a splash in the international market with the signing of highly-regarded Dominican shortstop Edward Salcedo.

kelmac07 02-23-2010 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox (Post 768968)
Mac, Santana is pitching opening day right?

He better be...who else are we gonna throw? :r :r 2-5 looks pretty shaky this year. Hopefully Maine is healthy and Perez gets his head out of his a$$. :D

ChicagoWhiteSox 02-24-2010 09:31 AM

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Major League Baseball plans to implement blood testing for human growth hormone in the Minor Leagues later this year, an official in baseball with direct knowledge of the matter told The New York Times for a story published on its Web site late Tuesday night. It's about damn time.

MedicCook 02-24-2010 10:33 AM

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I am surprised the Union is allowing that during a current contract.

ChicagoWhiteSox 02-24-2010 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by MedicCook (Post 770912)
I am surprised the Union is allowing that during a current contract.


How much control does the Union have over that issue?

MedicCook 02-24-2010 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox (Post 770921)
How much control does the Union have over that issue?

They have had lot's of control in the past. That is one of the reason it took so long to even get any steroid testing. The Union always refused to put it in the contracts. It was not until the Mitchell Report came out that the Union agreed to an addendum to the current contract.

ChicagoWhiteSox 02-24-2010 10:48 AM

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Anyone know the current status of testing in the majors?

Whynot 02-24-2010 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by MedicCook (Post 770922)
They have had lot's of control in the past. That is one of the reason it took so long to even get any steroid testing. The Union always refused to put it in the contracts. It was not until the Mitchell Report came out that the Union agreed to an addendum to the current contract.

Until a minor league player is put on the 40 man roster the union does not have any say in the testing. The minors had testing years before MLB did and the guidelines were more stringent.

ChicagoWhiteSox 02-24-2010 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Whynot (Post 770951)
Until a minor league player is put on the 40 man roster the union does not have any say in the testing. The minors had testing years before MLB did and the guidelines were more stringent.

Thats what I was wanting to know. Is there a separate union entity for the minors then?

Whynot 02-24-2010 01:31 PM

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Negative, if they are not on the 40, they are directly controlled by the parent organization.

ChicagoWhiteSox 02-24-2010 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Whynot (Post 771140)
Negative, if they are not on the 40, they are directly controlled by the parent organization.

Thanks, I never knew that.

Whynot 02-24-2010 01:45 PM

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I have been trying to learn more about the business and minor league side of baseball the last couple of years. There are some convoluted rules.

MedicCook 02-24-2010 02:46 PM

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I was watching ESPN this afternoon and they said not to expect this on the MLB level until after the next contract. They are going to want to make sure that the 2 years of minor league testing has been proven to be effective. This is also going to cost MLB a ton of money to do.

Whynot 02-24-2010 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MedicCook (Post 771285)
I was watching ESPN this afternoon and they said not to expect this on the MLB level until after the next contract. They are going to want to make sure that the 2 years of minor league testing has been proven to be effective. This is also going to cost MLB a ton of money to do.

I am curious to see what all goes down in the next agreement. I think the Union will cave to most testing standards, but I am wondering if a salary cap is going to be back on the table. I hope so, I know owners are still making money hand over fist, but I would like to be able to still afford to got to games.

MedicCook 02-24-2010 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Whynot (Post 771445)
I am curious to see what all goes down in the next agreement. I think the Union will cave to most testing standards, but I am wondering if a salary cap is going to be back on the table. I hope so, I know owners are still making money hand over fist, but I would like to be able to still afford to got to games.

I don't think you will see a salary cap without a salary minimum which the owners don't want.

VirtualSmitty 02-24-2010 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Whynot (Post 771445)
I hope so, I know owners are still making money hand over fist, but I would like to be able to still afford to got to games.

:r Tell that to the Dodgers and Indians owners.

Whynot 02-25-2010 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by MedicCook (Post 771694)
I don't think you will see a salary cap without a salary minimum which the owners don't want.

There is somewhat since the player minimum is 400K, but you probably hit the nail on the head with the team minimum. I just hope Albert doesn't bust the Cardinals bank. By which I mean I hope Dewitt is willing to forgo some personel profit for the team/city.

Whynot 02-27-2010 12:03 AM

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I like what Felipe Lopez has done with the bat the last couple of years, but I don't know that I see the value in adding him with the Cards current roster.

qwerty1500 02-27-2010 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Whynot (Post 775030)
I like what Felipe Lopez has done with the bat the last couple of years, but I don't know that I see the value in adding him with the Cards current roster.

I like it. He adds a needed left handed bat off the bench and a little defensive protection at 3rd in case Freese doesn't work out as they hope.

qwerty1500 02-27-2010 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Whynot (Post 775030)
I like what Felipe Lopez has done with the bat the last couple of years, but I don't know that I see the value in adding him with the Cards current roster.

Signed him.

ChicagoWhiteSox 03-06-2010 01:06 PM

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Alright, here goes with my 2010 division title predictions fwiw.

AL East:
Yankees
BoSox
Rays
O's
Jays

AL Central:
White Sox
Twins
Tigers
KC
Tribe

AL West:
LA
Mariners
Rangers
A's

For the AL wild card, BoSox


NL East:
Phillies
Mets
Marlins
Braves
Nats

NL Central:
Cards
Reds
Brew crew
Cubbies
Stros
Pirates

NL West:
Rockies
Dodgers
Giants
Dbacks
Padres

NL wildcard, Dodgers


Anyone else want to throw their predictions in?

kelmac07 03-06-2010 05:45 PM

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Here are mine:

AL East:
Yankees
BoSox
O's
Rays
Jays

AL Central:

Twins
White Sox
Cleveland
KC
Tigers

AL West:
Seattle
Rangers
LA
A's

For the AL wild card, White Sox

NL East:
Mets
Phillies
Braves
Marlins
Nats

NL Central:
Cards
Reds
Brew crew
Cubbies
Stros
Pirates

NL West:
Giants
Dodgers
Dbacks
Rockies
Padres

NL wildcard, Phillies

MedicCook 03-06-2010 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by kelmac07 (Post 784746)
Here are mine:

NL East:
Mets
Phillies
Braves
Marlins
Nats

:r

Sorry Mac.

kelmac07 03-06-2010 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MedicCook (Post 784870)
:r

Sorry Mac.

It's spring training...everyone is even right now!! Did you actually think I would pick my Mets to finish other than first? :D

MedicCook 03-06-2010 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by kelmac07 (Post 784876)
It's spring training...everyone is even right now!! Did you actually think I would pick my Mets to finish other than first? :D

That's the best thing about this time of the year. Everyone has a chance.

MiamiE 03-06-2010 09:23 PM

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Marlins in the wild card!

kelmac07 03-06-2010 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MiamiE (Post 784904)
Marlins in the wild card!

Trying not to laugh to hard Erick. I predict a firesale by mid Jun. ;s But hey...I picked my Mets to finish first. :D

MedicCook 03-06-2010 10:02 PM

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Here are mine:

AL East:
Yankees
Red Sox
Ray's
Blue Jay's
Orioles

AL Central:
Twins
White Sox
Tigers
Cleveland
KC

AL West:
Seattle
Rangers
Angels
A's

AL wild card, Red Sox

NL East:
Phillies
Braves
Mets
Marlins
Nats

NL Central:
Cardinals
Cubs
Reds
Brewers
Astros
Pirates

NL West:
Giants
Dodgers
Diamondbacks
Rockies
Padres

NL wildcard, Dodgers


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