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floydpink 10-30-2009 07:22 AM

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I guess the strategy concerning A-Rod is not to worry about him, he's gotten pretty good at striking out after building up a lot of post season hype.

He needs to wake the hell up and in a hurry,

Teixeira finally earned his paycheck though.

Jeter was, well, Jeter as usual.

I never really had much of a chance to watch the Phillies before this Series and definitely didn't give them the credit they deserve. They are a solid ball club.

The umps blew some key calls as usual and I'd have to say Philly got the raw end of it on the double play call, although I woulda, coulda, shoulda sent the runnners.

Watched this one on my neighbor's back porch smoking a couple of nice cigars on a really nice night and enjoyed it immensely.

ade06 10-30-2009 07:34 AM

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Yeah, I wish the Phillies would have sent the runners too! But that's baseball for ya. It was still a good game to watch!

yourchoice 10-30-2009 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 623867)
Now to move forward to conquer the "Phillies in 5" one next.

I officially know how to get under Carlos' skin. :r And nary a reply from you regarding the stats/DH issue...did you see it?

I think Pete hit the nail on the head. Due to the lack of interest of AL affiliated fans watching NL games, and NL affiliated fans watching AL games, credit to the opposition in this series has been pretty low from both sides. I think I can say with some certainty that the best two teams in baseball this year are in the World Series. It's really shaping up to be a great series.

Go Phillies!!

BigAsh 10-30-2009 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 623827)
What a great game to watch.

We are tied. Yankees did what great teams do. They win when they have to.
Hoping for that theme to continue.

.....like the Phils in game 1:D....Gotta hand it to Burnett....was hoping for a good series, and looks like we're gonna get it.....now if only the "real" Cole Hamels shows up Sat. nite....

ade06 10-30-2009 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by BigAsh (Post 623906)
.....like the Phils in game 1:D....Gotta hand it to Burnett....was hoping for a good series, and looks like we're gonna get it.....now if only the "real" Cole Hamels shows up Sat. nite....

We shall see, but I think he's still on paternity leave :r

Blueface 10-30-2009 07:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yourchoice (Post 623905)
I officially know how to get under Carlos' skin. :r And nary a reply from you regarding the stats/DH issue...did you see it?

I think Pete hit the nail on the head. Due to the lack of interest of AL affiliated fans watching NL games, and NL affiliated fans watching AL games, credit to the opposition in this series has been pretty low from both sides. I think I can say with some certainty that the best two teams in baseball this year are in the World Series. It's really shaping up to be a great series.

Go Phillies!!

:r
No doubt thus far, a great series.
I would be shocked if it doesn't go 7 games as I have felt from the onset


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Originally Posted by BigAsh (Post 623906)
.....like the Phils in game 1:D....Gotta hand it to Burnett....was hoping for a good series, and looks like we're gonna get it.....now if only the "real" Cole Hamels shows up Sat. nite....

Phillies needed one of the two games and they got it.
Yankees needed last night as a must win and they got it.
While I will gladly admit Lee was on fire the first game, I was blown away by the movement on Burnett's pitches last night. There were some that looked like they were headed for the batter and would move right into the strike zone at the last second. The dip on his breaking ball was amazing.
Both winning pitchers did an amazing job of shutting down great hitting.

I was laughing my butt off with the wife.
She despises Pedro and you should have heard the slurs being yelled in my family room by her.:r

shilala 10-30-2009 08:15 AM

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I kinda got robbed out of watching the game last night.
It was on all night, but too much stuff was going on to pay close attention.
I did get to see aRod get beat up again. The Phils have definately made some sense out of moving the ball around on him. He's swinging, but they're staying one guess ahead of him. That's going to be a fun story to watch as it plays out.
I was surprised by the Phil's tentative baserunning late. That's always a tough call from the bench. Let it hang out and get skewered by the press or play it safe and rely on your bats?
The way they hit last night, I really thought they'd be more agressive when they had a shot. Kinda blew my mind.

The officiating is still subpar, but it seems to be coming around. I'd like to see the "FoxBox" go away completely. It's annoying and isn't helping anything. Balls and strikes are whatever the umpire makes them. If you see three pitches over the plate, as a hitter, you better jump. There's not a major league pitcher who's not going to take advantage of a 28 inch wide home plate when he's got it, and rightfully so.

Props to AJ and Pedro both. Man, I love watching good pitching.
There's some of the most brilliant minds in ball in this series. I can't wait for the next game. :tu

BigAsh 10-30-2009 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 623922)
:r
No doubt thus far, a great series.
I would be shocked if it doesn't go 7 games as I have felt from the onset




Phillies needed one of the two games and they got it.
Yankees needed last night as a must win and they got it.
While I will gladly admit Lee was on fire the first game, I was blown away by the movement on Burnett's pitches last night. There were some that looked like they were headed for the batter and would move right into the strike zone at the last second. The dip on his breaking ball was amazing.
Both winning pitchers did an amazing job of shutting down great hitting.

I was laughing my butt off with the wife.
She despises Pedro and you should have heard the slurs being yelled in my family room by her.:r


Gotta love "chicks" and baseball!.....:r

Blueface 10-30-2009 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by BigAsh (Post 623966)
Gotta love "chicks" and baseball!.....:r

I swear I heard new cuss words that were yet to be invented.
We were both laying on our sectional sofa, shaped like a V, with our heads meeting at the center and our feet towards the two ends. Each time she yelled, I jumped. My left ear is still throbbing. I finally had to leave her alone and go to the bedroom to watch it. Then in the top of the 8th, she comes over to the bedroom. Thank God Pedro was out of the game by then.:r

BigAsh 10-30-2009 09:01 AM

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:r:r...... Now that's a WS moment to remember!

Blueface 10-30-2009 10:49 AM

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Interesting read.
The Phillies have Mariano figured out.
Will we just add them to the list that thought the same thing or will they indeed be added to the list containing the Diamondbacks? Time will tell.
Clicky

MedicCook 10-30-2009 11:00 AM

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I like how the Phillies in that article brought up the double play the Yankees got when Utley was safe but they ignored the double the Phillies got which was also a blown call and would have given the Yankees the bases loaded with 1 out.

BigAsh 10-30-2009 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by MedicCook (Post 624181)
I like how the Phillies in that article brought up the double play the Yankees got when Utley was safe but they ignored the double the Phillies got which was also a blown call and would have given the Yankees the bases loaded with 1 out.


stop nit-picking....you got the win....I think we can all agree on one thing....the umpiring, thru-out the playoffs, BLOWS!

Blueface 10-30-2009 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by BigAsh (Post 624219)
stop nit-picking....you got the win....I think we can all agree on one thing....the umpiring, thru-out the playoffs, BLOWS!

It is truly shameful.
It has been horrific with all the series.

Unreal that six umpires gathered to make a call where the dirt was kicked up in the air by the ball, yet called it an out.
Given it was a close call to be exact, I truly wonder how the other five had a perspective in that discussion.
I wish I could have overheard it just for laughs.

floydpink 10-30-2009 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 623983)
I swear I heard new cuss words that were yet to be invented.
We were both laying on our sectional sofa, shaped like a V, with our heads meeting at the center and our feet towards the two ends. Each time she yelled, I jumped. My left ear is still throbbing. I finally had to leave her alone and go to the bedroom to watch it. Then in the top of the 8th, she comes over to the bedroom. Thank God Pedro was out of the game by then.:r

Kinda off topic, but still interesting.

On one of my several trips to the Dominican Republic, I asked one of the kids in my bad spanish, why they all Red Sox caps and he replied, "because we are Dominican, and so is Pedro Martinez".

They start very young there and use anything they can get their hands on to fashion a bat, ball, and bases. I would say 90% of the hats you see are Red Sox hats.

I never could figure it out as just about every MLB team has Dominicans on the roster. I even sat with Jose Lima on a flight and never saw an Astro hat in all my trips, but he recieved a heros welcome in Puerto Plata airport.

BigAsh 10-30-2009 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 624223)
It is truly shameful.
It has been horrific with all the series.

Unreal that six umpires gathered to make a call where the dirt was kicked up in the air by the ball, yet called it an out.
Given it was a close call to be exact, I truly wonder how the other five had a perspective in that discussion.
I wish I could have overheard it just for laughs.

hahaha....I was thinking the same thing.....gotta feeling "replay" buzz will be high at the winter meetings...

BigAsh 10-30-2009 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by floydpink (Post 624232)
Kinda off topic, but still interesting.

On one of my several trips to the Dominican Republic, I asked one of the kids in my bad spanish, why they all Red Sox caps and he replied, "because we are Dominican, and so is Pedro Martinez".

They start very young there and use anything they can get their hands on to fashion a bat, ball, and bases. I would say 90% of the hats you see are Red Sox hats.

I never could figure it out as just about every MLB team has Dominicans on the roster. I even sat with Jose Lima on a flight and never saw an Astro hat in all my trips, but he recieved a heros welcome in Puerto Plata airport.

It's the "Nation".....plus Pedro, in his day was "the MAN".....any skinny Dominican kid had to idolize him....

yourchoice 10-30-2009 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 624163)
Interesting read.
The Phillies have Mariano figured out.
Will we just add them to the list that thought the same thing or will they indeed be added to the list containing the Diamondbacks? Time will tell.
Clicky

What did you expect them to say? "He's too good, we can't hit him."

This seems like a story about nothing to me. :2

ade06 10-30-2009 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 624223)
I wish I could have overheard it just for laughs.

I heard it... It went something like this.

1st Base Ump: "Oh shiit, big arss Howard blocked my view of the ball. I don't want to blow this call. You know everyone at home is watching the replay in slow motion."

The rest of the Umps: "Dude you were like 15 feet away from the play, if you didn't see it, how in the hell are we supposed to?" Here you go again, making us overpaid umps blow another play. Well let's all stand around sratching our butts, so we look like were taking this seriously."

1st Base Ump: "I got it, let's just throw a coin up in the air, heads the ball was caught on the fly, tails the ball one hopped. It's a 50/50 chance of making the right call."

Home plate Ump: "Sounds like a plan to me. Since I've been blowing calls all series, 50% sure sounds good to me."

The rest of the Umps: "Ok, now who has a coin... No one responds..."

1st Base Ump: "Man F this, Howard is a big dude and I'm not going back there and reversing my call. I'll take the 50% chance that I got the call right. It's only game #2 and neither team will remember the call when its all said and done."

The rest of the Umps: "Agreed!"

feznuk 10-30-2009 12:33 PM

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Ade, I bet you got more than half of that right on.

The way I look at it each team lost an opportunity to possibly score some runs, so I call it even. I don't feel like either call significantly influenced the outcome of the game. The Yankees got a good win and now it's time to get ready for game 3.

BigAsh 10-30-2009 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ade06 (Post 624260)
I heard it... It went something like this.

1st Base Ump: "Oh shiit, big arss Howard blocked my view of the ball. I don't want to blow this call. You know everyone at home is watching the replay in slow motion."

The rest of the Umps: "Dude you were like 15 feet away from the play, if you didn't see it, how in the hell are we supposed to?" Here you go again, making us overpaid umps blow another play. Well let's all stand around sratching our butts, so we look like were taking this seriously."

1st Base Ump: "I got it, let's just throw a coin up in the air, heads the ball was caught on the fly, tails the ball one hopped. It's a 50/50 chance of making the right call."

Home plate Ump: "Sounds like a plan to me. Since I've been blowing calls all series, 50% sure sounds good to me."

The rest of the Umps: "Ok, now who has a coin... No one responds..."

1st Base Ump: "Man F this, Howard is a big dude and I'm not going back there and reversing my call. I'll take the 50% chance that I got the call right. It's only game #2 and neither team will remember the call when its all said and done."

The rest of the Umps: "Agreed!"

:r:r.....hahaha....Damn, I wish I could type....that's classic!

kelmac07 10-30-2009 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BigAsh (Post 624297)
:r:r.....hahaha....Damn, I wish I could type....that's classic!

:tpd: LOL!!

VirtualSmitty 10-30-2009 12:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ade06 (Post 624260)
I heard it... It went something like this.

1st Base Ump: "Oh shiit, big arss Howard blocked my view of the ball. I don't want to blow this call. You know everyone at home is watching the replay in slow motion."

The rest of the Umps: "Dude you were like 15 feet away from the play, if you didn't see it, how in the hell are we supposed to?" Here you go again, making us overpaid umps blow another play. Well let's all stand around sratching our butts, so we look like were taking this seriously."

1st Base Ump: "I got it, let's just throw a coin up in the air, heads the ball was caught on the fly, tails the ball one hopped. It's a 50/50 chance of making the right call."

Home plate Ump: "Sounds like a plan to me. Since I've been blowing calls all series, 50% sure sounds good to me."

The rest of the Umps: "Ok, now who has a coin... No one responds..."

1st Base Ump: "Man F this, Howard is a big dude and I'm not going back there and reversing my call. I'll take the 50% chance that I got the call right. It's only game #2 and neither team will remember the call when its all said and done."

The rest of the Umps: "Agreed!"

:r I bet the conversation did sound something like that.

Blueface 10-30-2009 01:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ade06 (Post 624260)
I heard it... It went something like this.

1st Base Ump: "Oh shiit, big arss Howard blocked my view of the ball. I don't want to blow this call. You know everyone at home is watching the replay in slow motion."

The rest of the Umps: "Dude you were like 15 feet away from the play, if you didn't see it, how in the hell are we supposed to?" Here you go again, making us overpaid umps blow another play. Well let's all stand around sratching our butts, so we look like were taking this seriously."

1st Base Ump: "I got it, let's just throw a coin up in the air, heads the ball was caught on the fly, tails the ball one hopped. It's a 50/50 chance of making the right call."

Home plate Ump: "Sounds like a plan to me. Since I've been blowing calls all series, 50% sure sounds good to me."

The rest of the Umps: "Ok, now who has a coin... No one responds..."

1st Base Ump: "Man F this, Howard is a big dude and I'm not going back there and reversing my call. I'll take the 50% chance that I got the call right. It's only game #2 and neither team will remember the call when its all said and done."

The rest of the Umps: "Agreed!"

:r:r:r
Man I swear that is exactly how I envisioned it going.

The Poet 10-30-2009 02:24 PM

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Well, that game last night played out pretty much as I forsaw it, except that A.J managed to keep his focus and not have that one crappy inning. As for Pedro - well, he was Pedro against the Yanks, as usual. He kept them off-balance for the most part, made a couple of mistakes he hasn't the stuff to get away with, and was done after 100 pitches. Hey, that's him - unless he gets squeezed, when he then gives up 5 or 6 runs after 3 innings. Well, nobody got squeezed last night - I swear, that plate was about 22 inches wide, for both sides.

Speaking of both sides, the "double play" in the bottom of the 7th was offset by the "double play" in the top of the 8th, and was a wash. As for the Phillies figuring out Mo, I believe they have - come up, take weak hacks and hope to make contact and get some bleeders, raise their false hopes, then go back to the dugout as losers. :r

Blueface 10-31-2009 09:55 AM

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Game 3......8 hours and counting.

MedicCook 10-31-2009 10:13 AM

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Let's Go Yankees!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Poet 10-31-2009 10:15 AM

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Yeah, let's - and let's hope the weather's not too bad.

MedicCook 10-31-2009 10:17 AM

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Cliff Lee was pushed back to game 5.

The Poet 10-31-2009 10:25 AM

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I noticed yesterday they were starting Blanton game 4 - against I presume C.C.? Hey, if Andy wins tonight, and the Phils are looking at possibly going down 3-1, will they stick with that plan?

MedicCook 10-31-2009 10:29 AM

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Cliff Lee has never picthed on 3 days rest and they don't want to experiment in the World Series.

The Poet 10-31-2009 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by MedicCook (Post 625587)
Cliff Lee has never picthed on 3 days rest and they don't want to experiment in the World Series.

Yeah, OK, but still - jeez.

MedicCook 10-31-2009 10:46 AM

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He should be ok to pitch game 7 if needed they said since that would be his throw day. I am still saying Yankees in 6 so it will be a non-factor.

yourchoice 10-31-2009 10:52 AM

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I like that they don't throw their guys on short rest. Never did it last year, although they (the media) were contemplating it in the first series with the Brewers. Pitchers in this era aren't used to it, and most are nowhere near as effective as they are on regular rest. I agree with the decision, regardless of where the series stands. It will be interesting to see how effective Sabathia is with 3 days, assuming he pitches game 4 (is that definite?).

Of course, if there's a 7th game, everyone is available to pitch, but I don't think it will go that long...Phillies will finish the job before then.

The Poet 10-31-2009 11:48 AM

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Yeah, C.C. was lousy on 3 days rest against the Angels - 8 innings, 5 hits, 1 run, 2 walks, 5 Ks, and 1 win.

Blueface 10-31-2009 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by The Poet (Post 625662)
Yeah, C.C. was lousy on 3 days rest against the Angels - 8 innings, 5 hits, 1 run, 2 walks, 5 Ks, and 1 win.

Yeah, totally sucked.:r

Kidding aside, not his best that we have seen but certainly got the job done, and good enough for the win.
If that is C.C. not doing well with three days rest, bring him on!!!

yourchoice 10-31-2009 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by The Poet (Post 625662)
Yeah, C.C. was lousy on 3 days rest against the Angels - 8 innings, 5 hits, 1 run, 2 walks, 5 Ks, and 1 win.

Problem is he won't be playing against the Angels.... Here's his line from last year on 3 days against the Phils in the NLDS:

3 2/3 innings, 6 hits, 5 runs, 5 earned, 4 walks, 5 Ks, 2.727 WHIP and 1 loss. :ss

The Poet 10-31-2009 01:01 PM

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Yeah, Joel, you're absolutely right - the Yankees just might as well not even show up for the games at all. The Phillies are gods, and the Yanks are slobs.

yourchoice 10-31-2009 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The Poet (Post 625723)
Yeah, Joel, you're absolutely right - the Yankees just might as well not even show up for the games at all. The Phillies are gods, and the Yanks are slobs.

Huh?

The Poet 10-31-2009 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by yourchoice (Post 625747)
Huh?

Well, you say C.C. won't be playing against the Angels, when it seems obvious that your guys have yet to realize they are not playing Tampa Bay either.

yourchoice 10-31-2009 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by The Poet (Post 625772)
Well, you say C.C. won't be playing against the Angels, when it seems obvious that your guys have yet to realize they are not playing Tampa Bay either.

Not sure how Tampa Bay fits into the CC on 3 days discussion, but whatever.

VirtualSmitty 10-31-2009 01:54 PM

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CC will be fine with three days rest. He hasn't done it much this year and when he has he's been very effective. Last year with the Brewers he pitched on short rest almost all of september, after that stint I think a few games here and there won't be a big deal.

We'll see how Cole Hamels is today. So far he hasn't been that good this post season. Should be a good match up tonight! And off topic, Hamels did an ad which made me LoL! (NSFW)

http://kotaku.com/5394032/cole-hamel...re-for-pussies

The Poet 10-31-2009 01:55 PM

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It's the general tenor of the Phillie fan posts here, Joel. No offense, but you all seem to give the Yankees no props and no chance. It's one thing to pull for your team - it's quite another to "diss" the opposition. As for myself, I know very well that the games will be played on the field, not on this keyboard.

You want an example? Well, you attempted to dismiss C.C. on short rest with one example, yet you guys are counting on "the real Cole Hamels" to show up tonight - against one of the most successful post-season pitchers ever. Have you considered the possibility that last year's Hamels was the fluke, and the '09 version IS the real one? History is replete with young pitchers who have shown great early promise, yet quickly became so-so footnotes. Hey, I'm not saying the Phils can't win tonight, or can't win it all - I know they can. I just don't think they will. I have yet to see any Phillie fan on here be anything but certain that they will beat the Yankees, and easily. As a Yankee fan, I don't agree. As a baseball fan, I find that thinking dangerous - one dare not anger the baseball gods.

yourchoice 10-31-2009 01:56 PM

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Hamels is the big question mark on the staff. If he doesn't pitch well tonight and/or later in the series the Phils chances are greatly (very greatly) reduced.

The Poet 10-31-2009 02:23 PM

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There's light sprinkles here up the Trunpike - what's the weather in Philly?

Blueface 10-31-2009 03:07 PM

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Hey, Yankees fellows, hold the fort.
I have a greater calling this evening.
Yeah, in spite of how much it will bother me to not watch the game's initial innings, my grandson and Halloween have first dibs.
Let's hope for a great game, with a Yankees win as the outcome.

pnoon 10-31-2009 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 625849)
Hey, Yankees fellows, hold the fort.
I have a greater calling this evening.
Yeah, in spite of how much it will bother me to not watch the game's initial innings, my grandson and Halloween have first dibs.
Let's hope for a great game, with a Yankees win as the outcome.

I'll hold down the fort, Carlos.

Made some chili today and some fresh jalapeno rolls to enjoy while the Yankees take a 2-1 lead.

yourchoice 10-31-2009 05:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 625849)
Hey, Yankees fellows, hold the fort.
I have a greater calling this evening.
Yeah, in spite of how much it will bother me to not watch the game's initial innings, my grandson and Halloween have first dibs.
Let's hope for a great game, with a Yankees win as the outcome.

Enjoy the time with your grandson Carlos! I just got back from Trick-or-Treating with my two daughters (6 and 3). They had a blast. Now it's time to load them up with chocolate and sugar and see how long it takes them to go to sleep. :r

yourchoice 10-31-2009 06:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Poet (Post 625789)
It's the general tenor of the Phillie fan posts here, Joel. No offense, but you all seem to give the Yankees no props and no chance. It's one thing to pull for your team - it's quite another to "diss" the opposition. As for myself, I know very well that the games will be played on the field, not on this keyboard.

You want an example? Well, you attempted to dismiss C.C. on short rest with one example, yet you guys are counting on "the real Cole Hamels" to show up tonight - against one of the most successful post-season pitchers ever. Have you considered the possibility that last year's Hamels was the fluke, and the '09 version IS the real one? History is replete with young pitchers who have shown great early promise, yet quickly became so-so footnotes. Hey, I'm not saying the Phils can't win tonight, or can't win it all - I know they can. I just don't think they will. I have yet to see any Phillie fan on here be anything but certain that they will beat the Yankees, and easily. As a Yankee fan, I don't agree. As a baseball fan, I find that thinking dangerous - one dare not anger the baseball gods.

I don't want to get into a pissing match with you or anyone else. I consider you all BOTL's...key the "B". I'm truly typing each post with a smile on my face and am considering it friendly banter. The only time I don't is when someone gets overly emotional with one of my posts, which is not my intent.
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Back on topic, I've seen a lot of examples of pitchers not performing well on 3 days. Would they have pitched better with regular rest? I don't know. Obviously, there are also plenty of examples of pitchers pitching well on three days. FWIW, I didn't "diss" CC. I said it would be interesting to see how he performs on 3-days (no diss IMO). My next post was just a retort to the praise given. For many examples I give, I am sure there are others refuting mine. No biggie.

Like I said earlier in the thread, I truly believe the best two teams in baseball are playing in the WS. It's not my intent to diss the Yankees. But if the Phillies are dissed, I will defend them if, and when merited.

If anything I have said in the thread has been "dissing" the Yankees, I apologize. I will not apologize for calling their pen "suspect" (other than Rivera obviously). It's my opinion it is and I do not consider it a diss. I will not apologize for predicting Phillies in 5. It was a prediction...admittedly bold and a better chance to be wrong than right, as any prediction of 4 or 5 games would have been with either team winning. Aside from those two things, I am not sure where it could be considered that I dissed them.

Am I certain the Phillies will win the series? Oh God no! I think I said either in another thread or another forum altogether that while I predicted Phils in 5, I could see it being anywhere from Phils in 5 to Yanks in 5. Based on the "tenor" of this thread, I can see why I didn't say that here. I did say
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Originally Posted by yourchoice (Post 618170)
If someone predicted the Yankees in 5 I wouldn't be insulted. I wouldn't be shocked by any outcome in this series.

And please don't take this the wrong way, but if you don't like my "tenor"....too bad. The "tenor" by some Yankee fans in thread has been ....entertaining.... but they are fans of them, so it's kind of expected and I actually enjoy it. Don't believe me? Reread some of the thread and try to read it from a Phillies fan's perspective. I'd truly be surprised if you didn't see it this way. Want an example? Since it doesn't bother me, I won't single anyone else out except for the accuser. :)
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Originally Posted by The Poet (Post 618284)
...Yet anyone who looks at it objectively must admit the Yankees have the edge in - well, in everything, really.

Did someone order a diss at this table? :r <--- said in jest, please don't take offense.


Now I'm going to go grab a cigar and a Scotch and wait this rain delay out. It's going to be a late night. Luckily we gain an hour tonight. :sleep:

yourchoice 10-31-2009 06:59 PM

Re: Yankees vs. Phillies W.S. 2009
 
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Originally Posted by VirtualSmitty (Post 625788)
And off topic, Hamels did an ad which made me LoL! (NSFW)

http://kotaku.com/5394032/cole-hamel...re-for-pussies

Aw man, the video was taken down!


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