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s15driftking 11-25-2009 09:21 AM

Re: Wristwatch collectors out there?
 
did not buy from Tourneau. Bought from Diamond Cellar.

TheRiddick 11-25-2009 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol (Post 656206)
If you want big discounts on high end watches, there's only one place to buy - Singapore. Singapore is the world epicenter for watches and you will be hard pressed to find a better deal unless you go through a private party.

There are many web based vendors there that can source whatever watch you are looking for as cheap as it is going to get. There's a great Signapore based watch forum, but I forget the name.

Moses, I shop on 47th in NYC :-) Pretty much any watch you want even including extremely allocated Patek/Rolex pieces with waiting lists of 2+ years. The only time I could not get a good discount was when I was looking for a SS Daytona and had to pay 10% over MSRP, the gold one was offered at $12K (at the time a $21K watch) and I passed on principle.

mosesbotbol 11-25-2009 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TheRiddick (Post 658449)
Moses, I shop on 47th in NYC :-) Pretty much any watch you want even including extremely allocated Patek/Rolex pieces with waiting lists of 2+ years. The only time I could not get a good discount was when I was looking for a SS Daytona and had to pay 10% over MSRP, the gold one was offered at $12K (at the time a $21K watch) and I passed on principle.

We can get any Rolex at MSRP pretty easily around Biel. Sometimes we can get Rolex prototypes, but they go quick. It's a yes or no answer and pay right there kind of thing.

e-man67 11-25-2009 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol (Post 658467)
We can get any Rolex at MSRP pretty easily around Biel. Sometimes we can get Rolex prototypes, but they go quick. It's a yes or no answer and pay right there kind of thing.

They actually release Rolex Prototypes?

mosesbotbol 11-25-2009 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by e-man67 (Post 658468)
They actually release Rolex Prototypes?

No, they are not "released", but sold. The factory is down the street.

e-man67 11-25-2009 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol (Post 658487)
No, they are not "released", but sold. The factory is down the street.


Damn! I am surprised they can get them out of the factory! DeepSea Prototype please!

mosesbotbol 11-25-2009 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by e-man67 (Post 658495)
Damn! I am surprised they can get them out of the factory! DeepSea Prototype please!

If you can get the money to Switzerland in an hour, perhaps a prototype Rolex could be a possibility! It's not that often they come around. I haven't checked into them in over a year.

I could get you a Deep Sea no problem at MSRP if they are hard to get. The domestic watch market in Switzerland is no deal, you'd think it would be.

The hottest thing is PVD coating your Rolex Dive watch. I looks super sharp and not that expensive. I want to say like $500-600 to do. Watch has to be totally disassembled. The bezel, crown, and case back would be natural, alon with the springs and screws for the bracelet.

Sauer Grapes 11-26-2009 04:54 PM

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Is there a site that explains the differences in the movements that Getat offers? By differences, are there any advantages or disadvantages to any of the movements? I'm completely clueless as to why I'd get one over another.

Thrak 11-26-2009 08:20 PM

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Email him and he's quick to respond...

the seagull movements are pretty good, hand winds are pretty darn accurate.

mosesbotbol 11-27-2009 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by e-man67 (Post 658468)
They actually release Rolex Prototypes?

I now I see I probably answered your question incorrect. I am not sure if they are prototypes of current or upcoming watches, or watches they are considering producing. I have not seen one in person.

One kind of Rolex that is alittle more dubious are the ones that employees "build" out "borrowed" parts and built over months. In the end, they have a "Rolex", but not one I would bring a dealer to get fixed- if that makes sense. Employees at Omega have done a similar things. I suppose it happens everywhere.

Rolex has very tight and specific employee purchase program. It's like one watch a year to the employee only that can't be sold but a relative can have I think.

s15driftking 11-29-2009 12:15 AM

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found a new love today, quite affordable as well, should be here in a week or two. 50mm's of pure PVD stealthyness!

Sauer Grapes 11-29-2009 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by s15driftking (Post 661266)
found a new love today, quite affordable as well, should be here in a week or two. 50mm's of pure PVD stealthyness!

Is there a stock photo you can show, or do we have to wait until it's delivered?

Sauer Grapes 11-29-2009 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Thrak (Post 659584)
Email him and he's quick to respond...

the seagull movements are pretty good, hand winds are pretty darn accurate.

Ordered a custom Getat PAM homage yesterday. I'll post up pics when it gets here, but it'll look a lot like the normal 44mm superlume he offers. In fact, it's pretty much exactly that on the front side but it's PVD'd.

gettysburgfreak 11-29-2009 12:10 PM

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After looking over their website, I am pretty intrigued. Nice watches for a hundred bucks.

Sauer Grapes 11-29-2009 12:14 PM

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I'll let you know what I think about quality. If I have a good experience, I'll probably be buying another in stainless or Ti instead of PVD next. I could see myself have about 3 of them eventually.

I customized some stuff, and shipping is $20 if you want the fast shipping. All together mine was $147. I could have gotten a similar one for under $100 shipped had I not done fast shipping and not added some stuff. My next one will be under $100 or close to it at least.

Also search for Jackson Tse. His webiste sucks but I've heard he is almost as good as Getat and he has some different styles.

gettysburgfreak 11-29-2009 03:15 PM

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are these made in the United States?

s15driftking 11-29-2009 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Sauer Grapes (Post 661642)
Is there a stock photo you can show, or do we have to wait until it's delivered?


http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...BL._SS400_.jpg

specs
Watch Information
Brand Name: Stührling Original
Model number: 176AA.3351B11
Part Number: 176AA.3351B11
Dial window material type: krysterna
Clasp: fold-over-clasp-with-safety
Case material: black-ion-plated-stainless-steel
Case diameter: 53 millimeters
Case Thickness: 13.5 millimeters
Band material: stainless-steel
Band length: mens
Band width: 24 millimeters
Dial color: black
Bezel material: stainless-steel
Bezel Function: stationary
Calendar: Date
Movement: japanese-quartz
Water resistant depth: 165 Feet
Warranty Type: Manufacturer


cant wait! huge black watch!

Sauer Grapes 11-29-2009 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by gettysburgfreak (Post 661792)
are these made in the United States?

Getat's and Jackson Tse's watches are made in Hong Kong. Their manual winding watches are apparently very accurate. Apparently their auto's are hit or miss at times.

Sauer Grapes 11-29-2009 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by s15driftking (Post 661910)
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...BL._SS400_.jpg

specs
Watch Information
Brand Name: Stührling Original
Model number: 176AA.3351B11
Part Number: 176AA.3351B11
Dial window material type: krysterna
Clasp: fold-over-clasp-with-safety
Case material: black-ion-plated-stainless-steel
Case diameter: 53 millimeters
Case Thickness: 13.5 millimeters
Band material: stainless-steel
Band length: mens
Band width: 24 millimeters
Dial color: black
Bezel material: stainless-steel
Bezel Function: stationary
Calendar: Date
Movement: japanese-quartz
Water resistant depth: 165 Feet
Warranty Type: Manufacturer


cant wait! huge black watch!

I like it. It's busy, and I'm sure it is far too big for me, but it's cool.

s15driftking 11-30-2009 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Sauer Grapes (Post 662104)
I like it. It's busy, and I'm sure it is far too big for me, but it's cool.

Very busy! just how i like it! will take pics when it arrives!

Thrak 11-30-2009 07:28 PM

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53mm goodness man! Its like wearing a dinner plate on your wrist!

s15driftking 11-30-2009 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Thrak (Post 663023)
53mm goodness man! Its like wearing a dinner plate on your wrist!


thats how i roll bra!!

s15driftking 12-03-2009 08:04 PM

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Just arrived!!!


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Picture392.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Picture393.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Picture394.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Picture400.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Picture401.jpg

Sauer Grapes 12-03-2009 09:42 PM

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what, no pics of it on?

MikeyC 12-03-2009 10:16 PM

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That reminds me a lot of my Breitling (except black and the bezel looks like it came off a Bently series watch)

http://www.watchesonnet.com/images/p...rge/1810_1.jpg

Is that one of those homage watches you guys were talking about at one point?

Also, what's with everyone's obsession to paint things black these days? First I saw cars with black wheels (yuck! looks dirty to me). Next I see cars with flat black paint (REALLY stupid looking if you ask me). Now black watches?

I will say 20 years ago when I was 13 I had a black and gold Seiko that I LOVED. The black paint chipped off SO fast. I was so mad.

s15driftking 12-04-2009 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Sauer Grapes (Post 667449)
what, no pics of it on?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Picture403.jpg

Sauer Grapes 12-04-2009 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeyC (Post 667484)
That reminds me a lot of my Breitling (except black and the bezel looks like it came off a Bently series watch)

http://www.watchesonnet.com/images/p...rge/1810_1.jpg

Is that one of those homage watches you guys were talking about at one point?

Also, what's with everyone's obsession to paint things black these days? First I saw cars with black wheels (yuck! looks dirty to me). Next I see cars with flat black paint (REALLY stupid looking if you ask me). Now black watches?

I will say 20 years ago when I was 13 I had a black and gold Seiko that I LOVED. The black paint chipped off SO fast. I was so mad.

The watches that are pvd, aren't painted black unless they aren't truly pvd. Pvd is a chemical process and it shouldn't come off easily, if at all. IIRC

MikeyC 12-04-2009 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Sauer Grapes (Post 668238)
The watches that are pvd, aren't painted black unless they aren't truly pvd. Pvd is a chemical process and it shouldn't come off easily, if at all. IIRC

That's good to know that PVD watches are more durable than my old Seiko. I still don't understand why everyone wants everything to be black. Maybe it's my low intellect but I like shiny things. :r

wayner123 12-04-2009 09:03 PM

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Here is a good write-up on PVD process:

http://replicawatchfaqs.blogspot.com...eposition.html

It is supposed to make a watch less apt to corrosion. It's being used more frequently in diver's watches but has made it's way into fashion watches for the "black out" look.

Most PVD watches do not look as shiny black as s15driftking's. IMO the better looking PVD watches have a sort of sandblasted treatment done first. The one that s15driftking almost looks ceramic (which some watches have been made from and Rolex has been using ceramic in it's bezel's). Stuhrling's seems to have a few models which are made to look like other popular makers, Omega, Rolex, Breitling, Hublot, etc. So I can understand the comparison.

s15driftking is your quartz or automatic? And does the 53mm measurement include the pushers and crown? I ask because it does not look that large on your wrist.

mosesbotbol 12-05-2009 04:59 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wayner123 (Post 668620)
Here is a good write-up on PVD process:

The one that s15driftking almost looks ceramic (which some watches have been made from and Rolex has been using ceramic in it's bezel's). Stuhrling's seems to have a few models which are made to look like other popular makers, Omega, Rolex, Breitling, Hublot, etc.

It loooks like the watch is anodized.

smitdavi 12-06-2009 03:38 PM

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Just picked this up this past week. I now have the bracelet version and the strap version. It came with a canvas strap but it was really uncomfortable and didn't adjust well. Decided to buy a Hirsch strap to put on and now I absolutely love this watch. Fairly cheap and just a great watch.

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...d/IMG_1510.jpg

larryinlc 12-06-2009 05:50 PM

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Alright, I can see that some of you guys are way bigger than me. 53mm would look pretty silly on my small wrist. Here's my biggest watch at 37mm. A Bvlgari Solotempo.

http://www.soochx.org/images/wrist.jpg

Larry

mosesbotbol 12-06-2009 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by larryinlc (Post 670616)
Here's my biggest watch at 37mm. A Bvlgari Solotempo.
http://www.soochx.org/images/wrist.jpg

Unique styling of the 12 and 6 hands.:tu

s15driftking 12-06-2009 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by larryinlc (Post 670616)
Alright, I can see that some of you guys are way bigger than me. 53mm would look pretty silly on my small wrist. Here's my biggest watch at 37mm. A Bvlgari Solotempo.


Larry

it was 53 with the crown, maybe closer to a 47mm.

I personally wouldn't wear anything smaller than 43mm because it would look just plain silly on my big wrist. That is a very cool design regardless.



And to MikeyC, the Stuhrling i bought isn't an hommage to any particular breitling although after further examination it does look like it robs a bunch of characteristics from several different brietlings, the bezel resembles the Bentley 6.75 for sure. Maybe all the breitling influence is why i like it so much.

s15driftking 12-08-2009 09:05 PM

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Picture436.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Picture422.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Picture438.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Picture422.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Picture435.jpg

Lucky_Hippo 12-09-2009 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by smitdavi (Post 670488)
Just picked this up this past week. I now have the bracelet version and the strap version. It came with a canvas strap but it was really uncomfortable and didn't adjust well. Decided to buy a Hirsch strap to put on and now I absolutely love this watch. Fairly cheap and just a great watch.

Nice looking watch!!! Citizen makes some of the best bang for your buck watches on the market today IMHO.

Thrak 12-10-2009 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Lucky_Hippo (Post 673755)
Nice looking watch!!! Citizen makes some of the best bang for your buck watches on the market today IMHO.

I said the same thing a few pages back! :banger

gettysburgfreak 12-10-2009 11:37 AM

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you like flossing that Breitling

smitdavi 12-10-2009 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by gettysburgfreak (Post 675519)
you like flossing that Breitling

lol, I just about said the same thing

s15driftking 12-10-2009 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by gettysburgfreak (Post 675519)
you like flossing that Breitling

not as much as Ludacris does...

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1026/...7818301e_m.jpg

I take pics of it alot because it is by far the prettiest watch i own.

gettysburgfreak 12-10-2009 05:13 PM

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Im sure it is but the watch itself doesn't change, how many times do we need to see it?

smitdavi 12-10-2009 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by gettysburgfreak (Post 675845)
Im sure it is but the watch itself doesn't change, how many times do we need to see it?

:tpd:

s15driftking 12-10-2009 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by gettysburgfreak (Post 675845)
Im sure it is but the watch itself doesn't change, how many times do we need to see it?

apparently not, Don't worry, let me appease you. I will be the earth, and you can be the sun!!! Just messing with you brother! I won't post pics of it anymore. No prob.

Thrak 12-10-2009 07:38 PM

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I just ordered an Orange Monster on rubber. :D

$139 shipped, cant beat it!! Going to be a Xmas gift though so I cant touch it until Dec.25.

smitdavi 12-10-2009 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Thrak (Post 676017)
I just ordered an Orange Monster on rubber. :D

$139 shipped, cant beat it!! Going to be a Xmas gift though so I cant touch it until Dec.25.

Join the club with the "Christmas Present Thing". I've got one wrapped up and under the tree too lol

s15driftking 12-10-2009 08:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Thrak (Post 676017)
I just ordered an Orange Monster on rubber. :D

$139 shipped, cant beat it!! Going to be a Xmas gift though so I cant touch it until Dec.25.


You picked up an orange monster for 139.00 .thats un-freaking real! mind telling where? Sick price bro!

s15driftking 12-10-2009 08:41 PM

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Oops, just had a weak moment, made a purchase, will be here next week. Think PVD

Sauer Grapes 12-10-2009 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by s15driftking (Post 676094)
Oops, just had a weak moment, made a purchase, will be here next week. Think PVD

What does the airport in Warwick, RI have to do with your watch?

s15driftking 12-10-2009 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Sauer Grapes (Post 676107)
What does the airport in Warwick, RI have to do with your watch?


Clever, very clever!

Teaser

http://www.robert-uhren.de/images/pr...mages/15_3.jpg

Manual wind FTW!!!! :banger:banger:banger

Sauer Grapes 12-10-2009 08:58 PM

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Is that a Getat PAM homage? Jackson Tse?


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