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There's a process for people who feel aggrieved, and don't think it's in the spirit of this board what going on in this thread right now |
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This is where the thread derails. I think everyone can agree on the following:
1) Buyer Beware. 2) Contact mods immediately at first signs of problems. 3) If needed, leave negative feedback (just like ebay, negative feedback is so rare here that even one raises my alert level to maximum). 4) Stay classy (no need to lynch anyone in public.. while not likely in these cases, there have been cases were a BOTL disappears with money due to emergency hospitalization/etc). 5) If/when mods have banned the person, feel free to post your feelings like Silverfox did here. Dan was found to be "guilty" and Silverfox made is public, letting the rest of us know, I have no problem with this. I kind of agree a little with everyone. These acts do need to be brought to the attention of the board but this needs to be done civilly and with some diligence. |
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I will actually extend what I said above. When last did you leave truly honest feedback? I did a trade back on CS with a BOTL with like 40 possitive feedback who totally screwed me over. What did I do? I left him a glowing feedback... I personally believe people like this start slipping way before they do their final dissapearing acts but we dont leave truly honest feedback... my 2c.
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We are starting to not only drag in other names, but having meta discussions about the meta discussion. Perhaps it is time for this thread to die or close.
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Mark,
If folks want to have a civilized conversation about these incidents, how to prevent them, how to improve things, I see no reason to lock the thread. Lu |
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It's gettin' real close.....
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A possible compromise may be if next to the trader feedback number a percentage were displayed. I know I've seen this somewhere else, but I'm not sure if this version of vB supports it. Just a suggestion that may permit negative feedback to be more visible (ie, anything not 100%). People should still do their own homework, but a person's trade history would be more visible that way for all to see if you have a deal in the works with him/her or not.
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Icehog :chr Lu --- all good:)
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Why would anyone fail to leave meaningful feedback or trader information and why would anyone who suspects that they were taken remain silent (besides the obvious embarrassment factor)? I think that this thread, early one, provided a cathartic release for those involved, but it has long since left that behind. |
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Then I respectfully agree to disagree with you. I would prefer to know is all I am saying, and not just who I "suspect" If some one has negative feedback and no good reason why, I will steer clear of dealing with that person.:) You prolly apply that same level of being careful on ebay or anywhere else you are spending your money. |
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Mark,
I call it the ebay effect. I will be the first to admit that while the majority of my feedback is accurate, I have left positive feedback for people who have not lived up to their end of the deal. I have never been screwed to the point where I recieved nothing, but I have had 2-3 week delayed shipping, received blind trade sticks well below par, etc, etc. I ignore the problems in fear that they will also leave poor feedback for me. I think this is a wider problem. It would honestly take theft to get me to leave negetive feedback which luckily has not happened to me. I believe people like Dan have warning signs well before they finish taking peoples money. As far as the use of the thread, we are in agreement which is why I tried (maybe foolishly) to change its direction. Lu |
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This thread has gotten so far from the original subject and has turned into a fight between brothers who have never scammed or hurt anyone on here.
It's time to take a deep breath and walk away from the thread. Anything contributed from this point will likely be clouded by anger and completely counter-productive. [/soap box] |
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sorry, found your "ebay" thread after I posted, then deleted after reading more, which is tough in these multi page threads.
Hopefully I'm not a dying breed that speaks it as I mean it, and leaves feedback according to my experiences. not changing that for anything either. You do nobody a favor, but the seller, by hiding negative experiences. |
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http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/pictur...pictureid=2509
This guy stole one of my cigars. He needs to be banned too. (Just thought I would try to lighten the mood.);s |
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http://downloads.shizo.eu/Crossfire/...s_business.jpg
This is the ultimate lighten the mood picture. :D |
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Ok folks, I think most of us said what they wanted to say, and those that are out money got a chance to vent.
Its run its course. Move along, nothing more to see. |
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