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elderboy02 07-08-2011 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Starscream (Post 1327916)
Good to see Cozart up. I just wished it had been Renteria gone rather than Janish being optioned. Good to see Volquez knocked down again.

I think they said Volquez will be up shortly. I think they were saying that they just dropped him so they could bring Carlos Fisher up because of the extra innings game.

chippewastud79 07-08-2011 12:20 PM

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Still waiting on Dontrelle coming back up. He has turned it on of late and I am interested to see what he can do in the Big Show again. :tu

chippewastud79 07-08-2011 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by chippewastud79 (Post 1328588)
Still waiting on Dontrelle coming back up. He has turned it on of late and I am interested to see what he can do in the Big Show again. :tu

Willis coming up to start Sunday, we'll see how that goes. :hm

Starscream 07-08-2011 04:02 PM

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I'm a bit nervous about him, but at this point, I don't think he can be any worse than Volquez.


Volquez needs to be gone for good this time. Trade him to some team who needs pitching desperately enough to take him.

Starscream 07-08-2011 06:38 PM

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We scored first tonight. I've got a good feeling, despite the top of the order being Stubbs and Renteria.

Starscream 07-08-2011 09:33 PM

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That was ugly. I'm embarrassed to be a Reds fan right now.

elderboy02 07-08-2011 11:33 PM

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Cordero sure did blow it.

chippewastud79 07-09-2011 12:30 PM

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Man, that was a bad finish. :td

Starscream 07-09-2011 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by elderboy02 (Post 1329413)
Cordero sure did blow it.

I'm not putting blame on him. Yes, he failed us twice in a row, but he should never have been put into that spot in either game. How does a team just blow leads like that?

Good to see Adam's boy Stubbs actually hit for a change.:r

chippewastud79 07-09-2011 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Starscream (Post 1330071)
I'm not putting blame on him. Yes, he failed us twice in a row, but he should never have been put into that spot in either game. How does a team just blow leads like that?

Good to see Adam's boy Stubbs actually hit for a change.:r

And they still lost. His amazing angle on the Weeks fly ball led to a nice inside-the-park job. I think it is safe to say that Stubbs has no effect on how this team does, he plays well and they lose, he sits or strikes out 3 times in a game and they win. Based on a crazy stat on fangraph, Drew Stubbs in the lineup gives them a -7.79% chance on winning a game, and I tend agree based on how he plays. :hm

Starscream 07-09-2011 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by chippewastud79 (Post 1330099)
And they still lost. His amazing angle on the Weeks fly ball led to a nice inside-the-park job. I think it is safe to say that Stubbs has no effect on how this team does, he plays well and they lose, he sits or strikes out 3 times in a game and they win. Based on a crazy stat on fangraph, Drew Stubbs in the lineup gives them a -7.79% chance on winning a game, and I tend agree based on how he plays. :hm

:r:r

That's so sad if that's accurate.

chippewastud79 07-09-2011 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Starscream (Post 1330156)
:r:r

That's so sad if that's accurate.

After watching half the season I would agree. His WAR (Wins Above Replacement) is only 2.1 games for an entire season. Its probably a lengthy algorithm of stats that mean nothing to the average fan. There is also a stat claiming that he has below average range in the outfield and saves only 2 runs a season with his defense. He has actually missed over 10 balls that he should have caught based on his percieved range and has yet to save a homerun despite having 9 chances. :sh

Starscream 07-09-2011 09:20 PM

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Where's Dan? Bring on the smilies and wrap 'em in Red!:banger

elderboy02 07-10-2011 08:14 AM

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Reds win! Reds win! :banger :tu :banger :tu :)

elderboy02 07-10-2011 03:00 PM

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Cordero fuggin blows donkey d**ks :td

chippewastud79 07-10-2011 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by elderboy02 (Post 1331247)
Cordero fuggin blows donkey d**ks :td

The Reds are getting exactly the opposite of how they won so many games last season and even started this season. They are not playing good baseball right now. :hm

Heading into the break they have some blaring issues:

Still have no leadoff hitter, Stubbs is absolute trash of late, he has scored 3 runs in the last 10 games and two were today. 7 for 39 and 0 RBI's with 11 K's. :td

Their rotation has no direction right now, luckily Willis looked really good today, they need to figure out who their 5 are and most importantly the top 3, right now it looks like they have merely 2 pitchers. :sh

The bullpen, particularly the back end of it, looks terrible. Blew an 8 run lead the other night in 3 innings and dropped two in the ninth in the last series. :pu

Starscream 07-11-2011 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by elderboy02 (Post 1331247)
Cordero fuggin blows donkey d**ks

:r He's definitely in a funk all of a sudden. Dusty should never have put him in Sunday's game after seeing him fail for the previous few games. Give the guy some rest and maybe he'll bounce back.
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Originally Posted by chippewastud79 (Post 1331256)
The Reds are getting exactly the opposite of how they won so many games last season and even started this season. They are not playing good baseball right now.

Heading into the break they have some blaring issues:

Still have no leadoff hitter, Stubbs is absolute trash of late, he has scored 3 runs in the last 10 games and two were today. 7 for 39 and 0 RBI's with 11 K's.

Their rotation has no direction right now, luckily Willis looked really good today, they need to figure out who their 5 are and most importantly the top 3, right now it looks like they have merely 2 pitchers.

The bullpen, particularly the back end of it, looks terrible. Blew an 8 run lead the other night in 3 innings and dropped two in the ninth in the last series. :pu

People are calling for us to get an upgrade in left field, but Heisey's numbers look better than Stubbs' do with significantly less at bats. Even numbers in avg., HR, and RBI. The only downside is the lack of stolen bases, but it's kinda hard to steal bases if you can't get on base to begin with. Imagine what Stubbs' number of stolen bases would be if the kid could hit. He could put up Ricky Henderson type numbers. Sadly, he can't hit, though. Move Heisey to Center, and get a trade done that gives us a power bat in LF.

Also, Votto isn't getting it done the way he's supposed to. He's hitting for average, not hitting like a true 3-hole hitter should. Our 3-hole hitter should not be in love with singles. Where's this guy's power this year?

Starscream 07-12-2011 04:48 PM

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Seems like the Reds are taking a bit of interest in Jimenez. Thoughts? I'm a little shaky on this one. Bad ERA at home, which is expected at Coors, but decent ERA on the road.

chippewastud79 07-12-2011 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Starscream (Post 1333971)
Seems like the Reds are taking a bit of interest in Jimenez. Thoughts? I'm a little shaky on this one. Bad ERA at home, which is expected at Coors, but decent ERA on the road.

Ubaldo was the man last year, even at home. I can't imagine he could pitch worse than most of their rotation :hm

hotreds 07-12-2011 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Starscream (Post 1333971)
Seems like the Reds are taking a bit of interest in Jimenez. Thoughts? I'm a little shaky on this one. Bad ERA at home, which is expected at Coors, but decent ERA on the road.

Me gusta depending on what we would hafta give up.

Starscream 07-12-2011 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by hotreds (Post 1334123)
Me gusta depending on what we would hafta give up.

That's all what it comes down to. If we could get him for Alonso, Volquez, and another prospect (not Meseraco), I wouldn't mind.

hotreds 07-12-2011 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Starscream (Post 1334157)
That's all what it comes down to. If we could get him for Alonso, Volquez, and another prospect (not Meseraco), I wouldn't mind.

I doubt ANYBODY wants Volquez!

Starscream 07-12-2011 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by hotreds (Post 1334174)
I doubt ANYBODY wants Volquez!

Some team is desperate enough for pitching to take him.:)

chippewastud79 07-12-2011 09:16 PM

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All of the Reds All-Stars have successfully had at least one Stubbs in game tonight :td

Starscream 07-12-2011 10:26 PM

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:r

chippewastud79 07-13-2011 11:42 AM

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So the Brewers added K-Rod, for a set up man no less. When will the Reds actually make a move to improve this team? :hm

waffle 07-14-2011 06:06 AM

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Never. I believe they've resigned themselves to "sticking it out" with the "new talent" rather than shaking it up and going after big names. Clearly the Mets are in firesale mode already, and they have some incredible bats on the team... the Reds need to stop sitting on their hands and get someone that can actually help them!

chippewastud79 07-15-2011 07:35 PM

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Arnoldis Chapman, nice line tonight: 3 batters faced, 1 strike thrown, 2 BB, 1 HR, 2 ER and 0 outs. :td

Starscream 07-15-2011 08:00 PM

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14 pitches, only 4 strikes

Starting to think that he is a waste of $30 million.

Starscream 07-15-2011 08:22 PM

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BP with the 2run walkoff!

hotreds 07-15-2011 08:29 PM

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where's Adam?

chippewastud79 07-15-2011 09:07 PM

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Reds Win! Reds Win! :tu :banger :D :) :pn

chippewastud79 07-15-2011 09:12 PM

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One game below .500 :banger

chippewastud79 07-15-2011 09:14 PM

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4th place in the weakest division in baseball :tu

Starscream 07-15-2011 09:41 PM

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Anybody think Phillips is gonna get plunked tomorrow at some point? We all know how Carpenter is a big baby.

elderboy02 07-16-2011 08:17 AM

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Reds win! Reds win! :tu:tu:tu:noon:banger

Starscream 07-16-2011 04:11 PM

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Won't happen today. This lineup is an absolute joke.:td
Stubbs
Renteria
Votto
Phillips
Bruce
Rolen
Heisey
Hanigan
Arroyo



Why would anyone in their right mind put Renteria in tonight after Cozart has performed so well. And Stubbs at leadoff again. Is Dusty trying to forfeit this game?

chippewastud79 07-16-2011 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Starscream (Post 1338867)
Won't happen today. This lineup is an absolute joke.:td
Stubbs
Renteria
Votto
Phillips
Bruce
Rolen
Heisey
Hanigan
Arroyo



Why would anyone in their right mind put Renteria in tonight after Cozart has performed so well. And Stubbs at leadoff again. Is Dusty trying to forfeit this game?

Stubbs starts, even gets on base and the Reds lose. Yesterday Stubbs does nothing and they win. I think the -7.79% chance of winning looks more and more acurate every day. :td

Starscream 07-16-2011 08:07 PM

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Renteria actually got the job done most of the game. This team just sucks completely with RISP. How many times have we seen the bases loaded with no outs and no one scores? Absolute joke, and we deserve to lose b/c of this complete and utter bullshyt.

Starscream 07-16-2011 08:47 PM

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I'm about fed up with Dusty too. I guess I'm late to this party, but he's messed up a bit too much lately.

chippewastud79 07-16-2011 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Starscream (Post 1339050)
Renteria actually got the job done most of the game. This team just sucks completely with RISP. How many times have we seen the bases loaded with no outs and no one scores? Absolute joke, and we deserve to lose b/c of this complete and utter bullshyt.

Same reason they deserved to lose the game yesterday but pulled off some miracle. They haven't won consecutive games in 22 games. Luckily for them no one in this division can pull away. If the Brewers could play on the road like they can at home they would be 10 games up. Mediocrity is keeping the Reds alive, but the way they play it likely won't matter down the stretch. :hm

Starscream 07-16-2011 09:06 PM

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Mediocrity is keeping the whole NL Central alive.


Not sure whether to post a :r or a :sad

chippewastud79 07-16-2011 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Starscream (Post 1339100)
Mediocrity is keeping the whole NL Central alive.


Not sure whether to post a :r or a :sad

4 teams squallering in mediocrity and the two worst teams in the MLB make for a sweep for whomever wins this division by the Wild Card Team (with a better record). :lv

Starscream 07-16-2011 09:26 PM

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Adam, what are your thoughts of Dusty at this point? I was indifferent to him the first two years, then I liked him the second half of last year. This year, I've started to dislike his decisions more and more. I'm not saying Fire Dusty as others are, but something needs to be done to reign this guy in at some point.

chippewastud79 07-16-2011 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Starscream (Post 1339121)
Adam, what are your thoughts of Dusty at this point? I was indifferent to him the first two years, then I liked him the second half of last year. This year, I've started to dislike his decisions more and more. I'm not saying Fire Dusty as others are, but something needs to be done to reign this guy in at some point.

It depends on who is pulling the strings in the organization. There is definitely something that compels Dusty to put Stubbs in the leadoff spot the day after Heisey puts two in the seats and plays better defense than Stubbs ever does. I don't know that Dusty even runs the show anymore. :hm

Homer Bailey comes up all the time and stinks up the joint. No matter how many walks he issues, The Cuban Loss of Control pitches everytime they have a lead, even with an ERA over 5.00. Bruce, Stubbs, Gomes (at the beginning of the season) and Renteria all seem to have to get their play and AB's no matter how bad they are playing (or how many strikeouts they get). :sh

elderboy02 07-17-2011 12:12 AM

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Dusty is a tard for not starting Cozart :td

chippewastud79 07-17-2011 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by elderboy02 (Post 1339269)
Dusty is a tard for starting Stubbs :td

:tu

elderboy02 07-17-2011 03:30 PM

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Reds win! Reds win! :banger :tu :banger

Starscream 07-17-2011 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by elderboy02 (Post 1339821)
Reds win! Reds win! :banger :tu :banger

Taking it to the Redturds again! Lot of luck went in to this series. We won b/c of errors today. Loved the Theriot meltdown. That was hilarious! I bet Larussa's gonna have a nice long chat with him after the game.

elderboy02 07-17-2011 04:27 PM

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...We won b/c of errors today....

True, but that is ok. There are plenty of games that we have lost because of our stupidity. It all balances out in the end.


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