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Starscream 06-28-2011 07:48 PM

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We looked decent tonight. Tough loss. Looks like we're gonna be in 4th place tonight. Bucs and Cards are both winning.

chippewastud79 06-28-2011 07:49 PM

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We looked decent tonight. Tough loss. Looks like we're gonna be in 4th place tonight. Bucs and Cards are both winning.

Both starters looked good, every pitcher blinked, the Reds just blinked last. :rolleyes:

elderboy02 06-28-2011 07:58 PM

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We'll get 'em next time :tu

Starscream 06-28-2011 08:18 PM

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Can you read Adam's post, Dan, or do I need to quote them?:D


We'll get 'em next time. I sure hope so. We did look good tonight.

elderboy02 06-28-2011 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Starscream (Post 1315957)
Can you read Adam's post, Dan, or do I need to quote them?:D

Nah, I don't need to read his posts just saying the opposite of whatever I say, or how bad Drew Stubbs is, or how if something is red, that it is really blue. :r

Starscream 06-28-2011 09:59 PM

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:r

Seriously though, Adam's got some really valid thoughts on this team.

elderboy02 06-28-2011 10:02 PM

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:r

Seriously though, Adam's got some really valid thoughts on this team.

Maybe he does :tu

Starscream 06-28-2011 10:05 PM

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Aww, c'mon, Dan. He just ribs you about the smilies and Stubbs. We want your thoughts on the status of this team.:tu

elderboy02 06-28-2011 10:11 PM

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Aww, c'mon, Dan. He just ribs you about the smilies and Stubbs. We want your thoughts on the status of this team.:tu

We are playoff material. Hopefully we can get past the first round of the playoffs.

Starscream 06-29-2011 10:09 AM

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We are playoff material. Hopefully we can get past the first round of the playoffs.

We need changes if we're gonna make it. SF is shopping around for a catcher. Hernandez is a big offensive force this year, but I'd love to see him traded for a pitcher with a decent arm. Left field is finally coming around. And we need to upgrade at Short Stop. Renteria needs to go, and Cozart replace him. Then, we may be a playoff caliber team.

elderboy02 06-29-2011 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Starscream (Post 1316744)
We need changes if we're gonna make it. SF is shopping around for a catcher. Hernandez is a big offensive force this year, but I'd love to see him traded for a pitcher with a decent arm. Left field is finally coming around. And we need to upgrade at Short Stop. Renteria needs to go, and Cozart replace him. Then, we may be a playoff caliber team.

I agree with this post 100%

chippewastud79 06-29-2011 01:09 PM

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Aww, c'mon, Dan. He just ribs you about the smilies and Stubbs. We want your thoughts on the status of this team.:tu

He doesn't want my sports discussion in a Reds thread, blind faith is better than discussion. He gets angry because stats say Stubbs sucks and my opinion isn't that of the Reds homers. :rolleyes:

elderboy02 06-29-2011 01:18 PM

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He doesn't want my sports discussion in a Reds thread, blind faith is better than discussion. He gets angry because stats say Stubbs sucks and my opinion isn't that of the Reds homers. :rolleyes:

:r

chippewastud79 06-29-2011 01:25 PM

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:r

See, I don't bite. Can we still be friends? I can start posting 'Reds Win!' with you. :tu

Coach Deg 06-29-2011 01:27 PM

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You guys got us! Good series. Hugh a box will go out tomorrow. Or I might ship from Cincy, I will be there Friday. Anyone going to Friday's game? I won't have time for a stick, but a hello at the game would work.

Incase you guys were wondering, this is tailgating at the Trop.

Starscream 06-29-2011 01:29 PM

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See, I don't bite. Can we still be friends? I can start posting 'Reds Win!' with you. :tu

Well we did it today!

Starscream 06-29-2011 01:30 PM

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You guys got us! Good series. Hugh a box will go out tomorrow. Or I might ship from Cincy, I will be there Friday. Anyone going to Friday's game? I won't have time for a stick, but a hello at the game would work.

Incase you guys were wondering, this is tailgating at the Trop.

I'm jealous!

It's about time we won a series. Haven't done that since LA.

elderboy02 06-29-2011 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by chippewastud79 (Post 1316997)
See, I don't bite. Can we still be friends? I can start posting 'Reds Win!' with you. :tu

Sure :tu

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Originally Posted by Coach Deg (Post 1316999)
You guys got us! Good series. Hugh a box will go out tomorrow. Or I might ship from Cincy, I will be there Friday. Anyone going to Friday's game? I won't have time for a stick, but a hello at the game would work.

Incase you guys were wondering, this is tailgating at the Trop.

Crap, I forgot there was a day game today. I won't be at the game Friday.

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Originally Posted by Starscream (Post 1317003)
Well we did it today!

Reds win! Reds win! :banger :tu :banger

chippewastud79 06-29-2011 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by elderboy02 (Post 1317024)
Reds win! Reds win! :banger :tu :banger

You can delete my smilies when you post so you can have the full allotment. :tu

Starscream 06-29-2011 04:07 PM

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Dan, sports discussion:

How would you upgrade this team at this moment? No right or wrong answer, b/c you don't work in the front office. Same goes for all of us.



Adam, how would you upgrade this team?


Hugh, how would you upgrade this team?


Waffle, how would you upgrade this team?



We are obviously not gonna make the WS this year, but making the playoffs is a decent possibility at this point, despite being in 4th place right now. It's still before the All-Star break, so there's plenty of time. We're only 3 games back.


No wrong or right answer for anyone, but please be realistic. Don't come out and say let's get Pujols, Holiday, Lincecum, Wilson, Rivera, and the likes that we have absolutely NO chance of acquiring at this point. I know SF needs a catcher, but we're not gonna get Lincecum, Wilson, or any other big name from their team in return for Hernandez right now. He's awesome at offense this year, but he's old and starting to decline, especially at defense. Hanigan is obviously the better game caller and defender.

Starscream 06-29-2011 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Starscream (Post 1317256)
Dan, sports discussion:

How would you upgrade this team at this moment? No right or wrong answer, b/c you don't work in the front office. Same goes for all of us.



Adam, how would you upgrade this team?


Hugh, how would you upgrade this team?


Waffle, how would you upgrade this team?



We are obviously not gonna make the WS this year, but making the playoffs is a decent possibility at this point, despite being in 4th place right now. It's still before the All-Star break, so there's plenty of time. We're only 3 games back.


No wrong or right answer for anyone, but please be realistic. Don't come out and say let's get Pujols, Holiday, Lincecum, Wilson, Rivera, and the likes that we have absolutely NO chance of acquiring at this point. I know SF needs a catcher, but we're not gonna get Lincecum, Wilson, or any other big name from their team in return for Hernandez right now. He's awesome at offense this year, but he's old and starting to decline, especially at defense. Hanigan is obviously the better game caller and defender.

We could get a decent pitcher or starting position if we trade Hernandez, Alonso, maybe Stubbs, and someone else in a deal, but I'm not counting on it.

The fact is, SF is shopping for a good catcher with Posey out for the season. Ramon is only under contract for the rest of this year. Posey will be back next year, so it's only fitting if we in fact do trade a catcher for someone of worth, that it will be Hernandez. Hanigan's under contract past this year, and besides, I'd hate to give up his defense and game calling skills.

chippewastud79 06-29-2011 06:38 PM

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They need a starting pitcher or two. The talk was of Liriano, but I am not sure who they have on the market right now. If the Giants are in the discussion at trade time, you need to make an effort to get Cain or, at minimum, Vogelsong. Renteria and Hernandez work well in the trade with 2 or Sigle/Double-A prospects. It shouldn't take much to get a decent starting pitcher from the Giants in exchange for a few players with a servicable catcher.

I am interested to see if Willis can continue being a viable pitcher in Louisville, it would be nice to see him take another run at the big show. He was some kind of dominant for the Marlins and if he can return to form, he would be a very good 4 or 5 starter. :hm


The Reds need to make a serious run at Reyes if he is available. Stubbs has to be included in that package and you can afford to run Janish with him as well. At this point, Janish has done little to convince me that he is more than a servicable day off for infielders. The argument against is obviously being able to afford him and Phillips in the years to come. He may not stay regardless, but they may both like the idea of having the best middle infield in baseball and batting 1-2 in the order in front of Votto. You have to believe that if this team isn't going to make the playoffs consistently, not talking 3 times in 7 years, but every year for a few years: Votto is gone and Phillips is gone. They are both the top 5 in their position in MLB and don't want to squander good baseball on a bad team. Might they stay for less money, yes, but not 20 million less. :tu

Acesfull 06-29-2011 06:40 PM

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Not sure why everyone is so high on Reyes when they have a great SS hitting like crazy in Louisville. I would be happy if they got rid of Stubbs though. He is HORRENDOUS

hotreds 06-29-2011 06:52 PM

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There really isn't too much we can do. I'm not down on Stubbs like the rest of you. A nice speed/power combo. So, he strikes out a lot. A .250 hitter with 20/20 or 30/30 potential is ok in my book. He could be a good leadoff hitter if he did improve his strike zone awareness. He IS young, so I don't give up on him yet by any stretch. Reyes would indeed be great, but I doubt we'll get him at this point. I think that Henley is being shopped, but if he would change his attitude with a change of scenery is anybody's guess.

If our pitching stays strong, if our hitting remains decent, we could go far indeed. Volquez looked very good today. Cueto is hot, Arroyo can be very good, and the sticky fingers guy is also pitching well.

So- big IF- we play close to our ability we should/could go quite far even w/o changing much if anything.

chippewastud79 06-29-2011 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Acesfull (Post 1317425)
Not sure why everyone is so high on Reyes when they have a great SS hitting like crazy in Louisville. I would be happy if they got rid of Stubbs though. He is HORRENDOUS

Reyes leads the NL in average, hits, triples and runs, 2nd in stolen bases, 5th in OBP, 6th in OPS, 4th in doubles, 7th in slugging. He ranks in the top ten in nearly every category besides HR. The defending NL MVP isn't even in the top ten in 5 categories, let alone 9. :tu


He is a lead off hitter and has struck out only 26 times in 76 games, compare that to the Reds lead off hitter who has 111 strikeouts. It would be nice to upgrade twice with one player, leadoff and SS would get gigantic boosts. Plus the chance to unload an underachieving, overhyped, bad defending CF for an All-Star would be beneficial to Dusty. For some reason, albeit unjustified, Stubbs has to play every day. :hm

Starscream 06-29-2011 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by hotreds (Post 1317443)
There really isn't too much we can do. I'm not down on Stubbs like the rest of you. A nice speed/power combo. So, he strikes out a lot. A .250 hitter with 20/20 or 30/30 potential is ok in my book. He could be a good leadoff hitter if he did improve his strike zone awareness. He IS young, so I don't give up on him yet by any stretch. Reyes would indeed be great, but I doubt we'll get him at this point. I think that Henley is being shopped, but if he would change his attitude with a change of scenery is anybody's guess.

If our pitching stays strong, if our hitting remains decent, we could go far indeed. Volquez looked very good today. Cueto is hot, Arroyo can be very good, and the sticky fingers guy is also pitching well.

So- big IF- we play close to our ability we should/could go quite far even w/o changing much if anything.

I like your way of thinking, Hugh. But who is Henley?
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Originally Posted by chippewastud79 (Post 1317444)
Reyes leads the NL in average, hits, triples and runs, 2nd in stolen bases, 5th in OBP, 6th in OPS, 4th in doubles, 7th in slugging. He ranks in the top ten in nearly every category besides HR. The defending NL MVP isn't even in the top ten in 5 categories, let alone 9. :tu

He is a lead off hitter and has struck out only 26 times in 76 games, compare that to the Reds lead off hitter who has 111 strikeouts. It would be nice to upgrade twice with one player, leadoff and SS would get gigantic boosts. Plus the chance to unload an underachieving, overhyped, bad defending CF for an All-Star would be beneficial to Dusty. For some reason, albeit unjustified, Stubbs has to play every day. :hm

I'd love to have Reyes, Adam, but at this point, I don't think it's a possibility anymore.

Starscream 06-29-2011 06:57 PM

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BTW, I love the discussion in here today!:tu

Starscream 06-29-2011 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by hotreds (Post 1317443)
There really isn't too much we can do. I'm not down on Stubbs like the rest of you. A nice speed/power combo. So, he strikes out a lot. A .250 hitter with 20/20 or 30/30 potential is ok in my book. He could be a good leadoff hitter if he did improve his strike zone awareness. He IS young, so I don't give up on him yet by any stretch. Reyes would indeed be great, but I doubt we'll get him at this point. I think that Henley is being shopped, but if he would change his attitude with a change of scenery is anybody's guess.

If our pitching stays strong, if our hitting remains decent, we could go far indeed. Volquez looked very good today. Cueto is hot, Arroyo can be very good, and the sticky fingers guy is also pitching well.

So- big IF- we play close to our ability we should/could go quite far even w/o changing much if anything.

If anyone has noticed, Volquez looks good when Hanigan is behind the plate. When Hernandez is behind the plate, Volquez sucks. I still say Volquez sucks, but it seems that Hanigan is the one who keeps our guys decent. He's got the lower ERA in games vs. Hernandez.

hotreds 06-29-2011 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Starscream (Post 1317457)
I like your way of thinking, Hugh. But who is Henley?

Ramirez

Starscream 06-29-2011 08:46 PM

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Ramirez

hanley Ramirez? He put up Stubbs numbers last year, yet he had a much better average, but he's virtually worthless this year. That's why GOOD OL' DAVEY benched him. You gotta love DAVEY. I was always a Marge fan, but that was the worst decision she ever made, getting rid of Davey. He could have taken the team to at least one more WS in the 90s.

elderboy02 06-29-2011 10:09 PM

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I would bring up Cozart and get rid of Janish. I thought Janish would be good, but he turned out to only be good for his defense. I would like to see Heisey play more.

chippewastud79 07-01-2011 08:08 PM

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Reds fail :td

hotreds 07-01-2011 08:13 PM

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hanley Ramirez? He put up Stubbs numbers last year, yet he had a much better average, but he's virtually worthless this year. That's why GOOD OL' DAVEY benched him. You gotta love DAVEY. I was always a Marge fan, but that was the worst decision she ever made, getting rid of Davey. He could have taken the team to at least one more WS in the 90s.

They say he is fed up with Fla. He has a world of talent, but the question is if he can harness it again or if all the money he has made has made him lazy. The multi million dollar question. He is more likely to be available than Reyes. But, do we want him? At any price?

688sonarmen 07-01-2011 08:43 PM

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Saw the River Bats tonight while I'm home in Louisville on leave. Adam Wood pitched a good game, is he coming off the D.L? Bats won 2-4 against the Braves farm team... So, Bats Win Bats WIN:noon:tu:noon:tu:D

elderboy02 07-01-2011 08:52 PM

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That was ugly tonight :hn

Acesfull 07-01-2011 10:00 PM

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That was ugly tonight :hn

word.

chippewastud79 07-03-2011 10:42 AM

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Votto, Phillips and Bruce make the All-Star team. Not surprisingly, none are starters. Votto got fortunate that Pujols got hurt, fans stopped voting for him once he got hurt. :tu

elderboy02 07-03-2011 04:24 PM

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Reds win! Reds win! :banger:banger:banger:tu:tu

chippewastud79 07-05-2011 08:10 PM

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Stubbs for MVP :bh :td :sh :( :fl

hotreds 07-05-2011 08:38 PM

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After a game, I can always tell who won by the last post- if it's Dan, we won, if it's Adam, we lost.

chippewastud79 07-06-2011 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by hotreds (Post 1324472)
After a game, I can always tell who won by the last post- if it's Dan, we won, if it's Adam, we lost.

I was just commenting on how amazing Stubbs was last night. 0-4 with 4 strikeouts and 6 runners left on base, 5 in scoring position. :td

The team looked like doo doo in general. Playing good teams is seriously starting to catch up with them now. They weren't competitive against winning teams last year and this year seems to be a continuation of that. :sh

688sonarmen 07-07-2011 03:38 AM

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Good game last night guys. I quit watching after the 5th. I bet you could hear a cricket chirp just after the 1st pitch:r

elderboy02 07-07-2011 04:57 AM

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Reds win! Reds win! :banger :tu :banger :tu

I thought it was funny when Aroldis Chapman saved the game and he forgot and started walking to the dugout :r

chippewastud79 07-07-2011 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by elderboy02 (Post 1326687)
I thought it was funny when Aroldis Chapman saved the game and he forgot and started walking to the dugout :r

I thought that it was funny the Reds blew an 8 run lead in 3 innings. Man this team looks bad sometimes. :td

Starscream 07-07-2011 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by hotreds (Post 1324472)
After a game, I can always tell who won by the last post- if it's Dan, we won, if it's Adam, we lost.

:r

Starscream 07-07-2011 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by chippewastud79 (Post 1326912)
I thought that it was funny the Reds blew an 8 run lead in 3 innings. Man this team looks bad sometimes. :td

It's amazing that we're still in contention at this point. Sometimes it's good to be in the NL Central.

elderboy02 07-07-2011 08:08 PM

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Glad to see Cozart come up and Janish sent down :tu

chippewastud79 07-07-2011 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Starscream (Post 1327481)
It's amazing that we're still in contention at this point. Sometimes it's good to be in the NL Central.

That was the comment on ESPN today. They were talking about if the Pirates were for real, if the league continues to be this terrible, anyone is in contention. :rolleyes:

chippewastud79 07-07-2011 08:57 PM

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Nice base running by Stubbs :bh

Starscream 07-07-2011 09:10 PM

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Good to see Cozart up. I just wished it had been Renteria gone rather than Janish being optioned. Good to see Volquez knocked down again.


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