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Tom, when you're right you're right :)

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Tom, you ever had MYS Clash/Vasky?

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Never heard of it, Charlie, is it a PWO?

I guess I can just Google it. :lr

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Interesting, one stim and one stim-free. Be curious to hear more about it.

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Really considering squat everyday :hm

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PM me your addy and I'll send you a sample. This stuff has been good enough over my last 2 workouts that I'm making it my standard PW.

Christie, I know that not everyone likes the idea of SED but the truth is that if you go into it with a plan then I think it's fantastic! Have you read up on the suggested sets/reps?
Over the 120-odd days I did it my front squat went from 135 to 275 and my back went from 315 to 425. Most of your PR gains aren't because you're gaining muscle but because you're practicing your form every day. It puts you in a really good spot to progress properly once you stop the SED cycle.
I'm glad to give you my opinion on any specifics of you have any questions. :)

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Christos* ... dang autocorrect

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Good day of legs and a bit of shoulders

Squat 3x5, 2x5
Pause squat (5 second pause) 4x5
Hack squats 4x12-15
Stiff leg deads 5x8-12
Seated leg curls 5x12

DB side delt raise 5x12-15
Seated lateral raise machine 5x12
Upright row 4x10
Cable rear delt flies - plate front raise 5x10-15

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Good work, Huy.

Cardio day for me today. :)
Taking a 2-on/1-off approach with this hypertrophic supplementary lifting, mostly to guard against overworking my right shoulder and elbow joints again. Don't want that massive inflammation popping back up again.

Shoulders tomorrow.

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I haven't looked into programming yet. I already know that part of it is neurological. I'm going to definitely ask you some questions.

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Shoulders and Calves today ... little bit of Ab work. Some SED cardio later.

Have a good friday and weekend, gents.

Fire away, Christos! :)

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Did you ever work up to a mile of lunges like they suggest? :hn

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Back to work tomorrow, Men, hope you kept the plates warm for me.

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Nope, it seemed a bit like overload, which I get sounds funny when already talking about squatting every day. Im a big fella and it felt like that was just gonna destroy my knees. :/

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International Chest Day

Flat Bench 245, 275, 295, 315
Incline Bench 185, 205, 225, 245
Super wide Bench 225, 245, 265
Decline Bench 255, 285, 315, 225
Dips (bodyweight) 3 sets

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Good work, as always, Tom!

Just cardio for me today ... 45min on the elliptical. :)

Chest tomorrow for me.

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How did the chest w/o go, Charlie?

Back for me today. I was unmotivated when I got to the gym, so I switched it up and did light rowing with exaggerated range of motion / extreme stretching / holding contractions for 2 seconds.

Barbell row 165, 185, 205, 225, 245
T-bar row 225, 250, 270
Superset BB row 185 / T-bar row 205 @ 2 sets
Wide grip pulldowns 200, 200, 240, 240
Dead hangs

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King of Rows!!!

Hypertrophic chest today followed by some hammy work ... all exercises (minus DLs) done at quick-count 30sec rest between sets

Flat Bench - 8x10 @ 95
Close Grip Bench - 3x10 @ 95
Incline Bench - 2x10 @ 100 / 2x10 @ 70 / 4x10 @ 50
Decline Bench - 2x10 @ 110 / 6x10 @ 90
Flys (machine) - 8x10 @ 80 SS w/ Dips @ 100

Sumo DL - 1x10 @ 135 / 1x10 @ 225 / 1x5 @ 315 / 1x3 @ 365 / 1x1 @ 405
Leg Curls - 8x10 @ 100

Finished up with a little bit of ab work.

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Good work, Charlie!

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Legs and shoulders.

Squats, pause squats, sumos, leg curls-leg extensions, single leg press

Smith machine press, Arnold press, upright row, front raise

It was a so so day, strength felt decent.

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Nice work, Huy. :tu

Legs and shoulders for me as well tomorrow.

Any reviews from you guys on Hyde PWO?

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Good work, Huy!

Tom - i've only tried Hyde once but didn't really like it. You know me, i'm a stim-monster but with all the stims in this i just got jittery. It didn't really give me a good boost.
Get a good lift in, Tom!

Back day today

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Oh ****! I knew I had to send something out. Going out today, Mr.Murphy.

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Is it Hyde? I had forgotten.

Reps day today.

Leg Press 685 @ 5 sets
Leg Curls 180 @ 5 sets
Seated military press 145, 175, 185, 195, 205, 175, 145, 125

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Move that weight, Tom!

Conventional DL's followed by hypertrophic back and quads. :)

Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3 II
 

Yeah, Tom. I have some other stuff you can try as well

Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3 II
 

Thanks Huy. I have Catalyst, Pump Fuel, NOExtreme, C4 and some generic that is supposed to be like original formula Jack3d (it's not), let me know what you haven't tried.

Nice work, Charlie. :tu

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I sent your stuff, Sir DB

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Admiral, I have about a gallon of testosterone. It's outdated, but that don't mean shnit.
THAT'S pump fuel. :tu

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That's what Hyde is suppose to do, Charlie. It's just high in stim and caffeine. Mixing it with any other supplement that has nitric oxide will balance it out. That's why they created Jekly.

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THanks, Huy, tell me whiich one you haven't tried.

How much for the test, Scott? :D

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It's yours, Goon Squad.

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Hypertrophic shoulders and calves today. Wasn't a bad lift. :)

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Arms for me, Charlie, lots of work, and a nice full pump with that Catalyst.

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First day of taking Karbolyn and I just felt great the entire time I was training. Coach has me upping my carbs to 300g a day. It's tough for me to get 200 in so I added Karboyln in while I train.

Back and chest.

Wide grip pull down
V grip pull down
Reverse grip bb row
Seated row using neautral grip
Stiff arm lat pull down 7x8-15 w/45 sec rest

Incline DB press
Incline DB flies
Seated cable flies - seated press - push ups 5x10-15 w/45 sec rest

All sets were 4x8-15 unless noted.

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Good stuff, Tom & Huy!

Hypertrophic arms for me today. Got a great pump! :)

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2 days in a row because we are going out of town tomorrow.

Legs and shoulders

Front squats 73637263x4 or at least it felt like I did that many sets
Leg presses 5x15
Lunges 4x16
Standing leg curls 4x12-15

Cable face pulls 7x15
DB side raise 4x8
Plate front raise 4x12-15
Seated side delt machine 4x15

Did some armzzz for fun too.

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Well i'm dropping fat (and lbs) but my totals are getting harder and harder to meet. Pulling 405 today felt like pulling 455 usually does. And I failed at 455 ... felt like when I tried to pull 475. :/

Conventional DL
Heavy Barbell Shrugs
Sumo DL
Chest Press

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Stick with it, Charlie, the fat will go and the strength will come back.

Chest today, tried to rep it out with little lower weights.

Bench press 205, 235, 255, 275
Incline bench 185, 205, 225, 245
Vertical bench 255, 275, 295
Decline bench 275, 295, 315, 225
Dips 4 sets @ bodyweight

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Huy, the samples arrived today, thank you for them and the great cigars.

You still let me know what you want to try from what I have. :)

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I haven't tried a Cuba tobacco 25th yet :)

Glad they arrived my friend.

I wanna try the catalyst. Need my address?

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Not sure I can read it on your package (phrasing). Please PM it to me, Huy. :)

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Sent you a text

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I was probably ... No, I was in a surplus Friday and Saturday. I think I went about 1.5-2k over my daily maintenance. I think I devoured half a container of ice cream with brownies! All good though. Only hit 1.9 today, not starving myself today, just didn't get a chance to eat as much.

In case if you guys were wondering, 180P/300C/80-85F

Hoping tomorrow will be a good day of training. Hope you guys enjoyed your weekend!

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Got it, Huy. :tu

Back today, shoulder was sore so I stuck to cable work, save a few sets of heavy bent over rows at the end.

Had a shitload of pasta for the first time in a long time tonight, played hockey, but hopefully still have some gas left for shoulders tomorrow.

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Shoulders and tris. Not much gas after short-bench hockey games Saturday and Sunday. Heavy and short. :r

Huy, your Catalyst is on the way.

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Good work, Tom! You're a machine!

Hypertrophic chest and hammies for me today. :)

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Breast and back today, kept it fairly short resting time.

Incline bb 4x5
Incline DB 4x8-12
Fly machine 4x10-14

Pull ups 4x8
Reverse grip pull down 4x8
Seated row machine 4x8-12
T bar row 4x8-12

Bent over rows - push ups 4x12 no rest

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Good lift, Huy!

Hypertrophic Back and Quads today.