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Thanks other Adam, and yes I noticed that after but too late to edit / delete the link.

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My comments about the list, it's lack of blends and how it's touted as much more than it is were directed at it, not you or the fact that you posted it. Hope it didn't come across as sounding like it was being directed at you as that was not my intention.

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Glad you didn't, there's still some interesting reading to be done there, and links to other articles.

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Hey Adam the First, nope not at all and I wasn't being sarcastic either (which is odd for me :P )

I have a question I didn't see an answer too, or I googled it wrong, why is it easy well not painful to snork a CC it's pleasing and helps you pick up the subtle aromas and tastes and if you snork a NC ... it will most likely give you the feeling of someone sticking lit matches in your sinuses?

While I'm sure not all NCs have this affect it seems a great many do, is it purely the leaf used in the CCs or some magical process of fermenting they use, you'd think anything other than the leaf is used everywhere.

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Thanks, my other brother Adam, I just wanted to make sure.

As for the snorking of NC vs CC and why one burns your nostrils and the other doesn't, I don't think there is going to be one single answer / reason that covers every situation, and any given cigar could have multiple reasons.

Yes, fermentation style is a possibility (everyone does it differently), strength of the tobacco being used, be it inherent to the particular strain/varietal of tobacco or the growing conditions, soil minerals, age of the tobacco, how much of the upper priming tobacco like ligero and viso are in the cigar, etc.

Generally speaking Cuban cigars are milder than some of their NC counterparts. Comparing a Cuban cigar for strength to most Tatuajes, JdNs, Padrons, Liga Privadas, Opus X, Camacho Black, etc. Most of the time, it's just no contest, these NCs are in another world. Stronger tobaccos and craploads more high primings (the closer you get to the top of the plant, the "stronger" the leaves are).

Now, compare a Cuban cigar to, say, a Macanudo (the "original" ones), Zino, AVO (beige), NC Dunhill, Nat Shermans, NC Fonseca, etc. those are all milder NCs, a lot of shade grown capas (wrapper leaf) being used, not a a ton of ligero in the blends, these are actually much easier when snorked. If anything, some of them might not have the age of a comparable strength Cuban cigar, or vice versa. Cuban cigars have box codes, but that's just when they were rolled and boxed, not when the tobacco was picked and fermented, they are aging tobacco now prior to rolling, but how much, reports vary. NC aging of tobacco before rolling is not always the absolute that it's presented as.

Location, climate, soil and fertilizer additions to tobacco play just as much a part in the end product as they do with any other plant. Fertilize one plant, but don't fertilize the one in the next pot over and what happens? Grow one on the coast with lots of morning fog and moisture and one more inland in different soil with a greater amount of direct sunlight and an extra 10-15 degrees during the day; again, you'll get different results.

Sorry for the long answer, this thread isn't typically for that, but I hope that kind of gives you an idea, and, there's probably more to it what has been mentioned.

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I figured it was a combination of things, and that it would make for a good post here, as in good information from helpful people with a great knowledge.

btw I like the Davidoff 2000s and those are "snorkable" for lack of a better term. :r

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Ok one last question. Is there a difference in buying sticks 5x5 (5 boxes of 5) instead of a box of 25, I'm guessing the only difference is you don't get them all boxed and matched, is there an advantage to buying the box such as the quality of all 25 will be the same or closer than the 5x5s ?

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Some don't like the way cigars age in the 5X5 boxes....I have had bad ones, and I have had great ones, so who knows?

I prefer cabs and SLBs over both of those, by the way.

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I noticed that end of my cigars last two or three inches is getting hot, is this due to the cigars being too lose, do I need to switch over to a punch instead of a cutter? Just curious as few of the recent cigars I had to stop smoking due to it getting too hot on the draw. I have a found a few tricks to help with it but it seems once I get to back of the cigar they don't work.

I know someone mention when I asked about draw that they said humidity could be too low, but this has happen with new and old cigars in my box. I do live in Florida could this also contribute?

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Good chance you are hitting it too many times, give the cigar a chance to cool down before taking another puff, i read somewhere that once every 60 seconds or more is a good 'rate', if you hit it too much you hot box it like a cig plus you are hitting the tabac with too much heat and changing the flavor profile. (is it getting bitter as you smoke it and it gets overheated?)

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Answer Adam's question that is one of tricks I do but when it gets to end no matter if I let it sit for several minutes when I draw in it gets too hot I feel the heat and no flavor pretty much at all or bitterness as you stated.

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I've found that some cigars can be nubbed all the way to the end, and some just can't because of tar buildup or tobacco quality. When I take notes on the cigars I smoke, this is one of the criteria I score them with. Not all cigars can be taken down to the last inch or so without getting a little nasty. :2

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Too low a humidity (too dry) can definiteely cause a cigar to burn hot. We are talking very low though, I keep my cigars around 61% RH and they burn fine.

If I have a cigar that seems obviously underfilled, I will use a punch rather than my Palio, but I am guessing that all these sticks that got too hot on you couldn't have all been underfilled, so RH is definitely something to consider.

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Sometimes a good purge (exhaling through the cigar) will help with this problem.

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I see that the cigar has a rating called ring gauge,What is that rating for?

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It's the diameter of the cigar measured in 64ths of an inch.

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If stored correctly, How long can cigars last?

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Decades

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Forever. Although from what I read, they tend to become milder with age and that doesn't suit all cigars, especially milder ones (in the very long term).

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The word "correctly" here, is ambiguous. It depends on what you're looking for in this hobby. In an airtight environment - as in a vacuum sealed box - your box could taste like the day that you bought it, even after decades' time. Although theoretical since we didn't have vacuum packing technology for boxes back then to confirm this empirically, old European vendors had been using a similar technique to preserve cigars for the long-run by wrapping the boxes in an air/water resistant parchment called glassine.

There are many schools of thought on what is the "ideal" aging method. Again, it depends on what you're looking for; You have to develop a palate and figure out what you like and dislike in a cigar. Maybe you actually like the taste of a fresh cigar, much like some oenophiles who willingly trade flavor/intensity of young wine for the strong youthful tannins. Or maybe you try some vintage cigars and find that you prefer that taste.

My advice right now would be to just smoke as many cigars as possible, and just enjoy yourself. Don't overthink it!

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Thanks, I starting to see this cigar is alot like drinking beer. There is a million out there to try and you wanna try them all, but as with any thing you will always have a favorite!:tu

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Ok, another dumb question I have while I have been looking around. How do you know that a cigar is infused? If I stop at my local B & M and I grab a cigar does it say on there any where, or do I need to do my research before hand?

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You can do your research before hand, ask the sales staff, or simply put that sucker up to your nose and take a big whiff.

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I say A or B.
C not so much.

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I dont know peter I have a pretty big jew nose .. C might work for me. :D

Fake Edit: I'm Jewish so i can say that :hy

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C, moreso since it is generally bad form to place your nose on a cigar you haven't purchased. ;)

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That was my point, too.

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I sometimes sniff the foot of a cigar -- end-on. Near but clearly not touching my nose.

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Ah but the point is that my nose is SOOOO big (how big is it???) that I wouldn't need to be within 3 feet of it to get a big whiff :sl

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I didn't say tickle your sinuses with it, just take a big whiff. :D I can do that with my nose >1" from the smoke.

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Since someone asked me in PM what the slope was I did a little finger sketch to explain my experience with the slope.

Excuse the tiny writing on the iphone .. (all dates are rough estimates)

Jan 10th - Discovers Cigars
Jan 22th - Joins CA
Jan 30th - Gets S.H.I.T. herf invite, is FORCED to try new and exotic cigars (i.e., good ones)
Feb 12th ... self explanatory with added "Damn you Peter and Angel"

This my slope, minus the winador etc., etc., etc.,

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Fixed it.

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grazie

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Very cool!

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According to the acronym sticky he was already correct. ;)


cA is the Magazine! :noon

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Ca is the mag they get the little "a" .. never the less I put CI because i'm a retard .. :sad

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Let's get this thread back on track for beginners to ask their questions, Men. :)

Lotsa threads to banter in elsewhere.

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OK, I feel pretty dumb asking this, What does cc and nc stand for?

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Cuban Cigar...Non Cuban

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Means you should probably read / favorite this thread .. it's very handy.

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=2190

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:tpd:
That's why it's a sticky thread.

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Ha, You know whats funy is I have thought about this since I first saw it.
Today I get my order from C.I. and in it is a Cigar Journal book. I am reading about all the different countries makeing cigars,When the come to the country Cuba. As I am reading it hits me. Hey dumbass CC is Cuban cigars and NC is non Cuban. :r

I knew as soon as I would ask that I would figure it out and feel stupid! Yep that time has came! Please excuse me while I go beat my head on a wall for being an idiot! :tu

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All Noob's once :tu

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Ok noOb question. I have noticed lately that some cigars, usually CCs are much lighter than NC cigars. Is this just a coincidence and these cigars are drier, is it the way they are rolled (doubt that one but could have something to do with the amount of filler maybe) or the leaf (again doubt this too)? I'm going to guess they are just a bit drier? (even though the wrappers aren't really dry and crispy)

I just realized I'm probably smoking a couple very similar sticks and comparing everything else to them ... :sl

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I find Cubans to be more nuanced and lighter in general than many popular NCs, but of course there are exceptions. Different leaf, different soil, what I believe to be a conscious choice over mere coincidence.

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Apples and oranges broheim.

Each NC factory does things their way, Cuba does things their way. Don't worry about the weights.

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So I worded that poorly, I meant as far as weight, although yes I love CCs just for that reason, a lighter more mild/mellow smoke that you really relax and pay more attention to the flavors. To me a much more enjoyable and relaxing smoke overall.

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Hi BOTL and SOTL!
I am new to this fourm and have a question about the "trading" number at the bottom of your profiles for example "AdamJoshua" listed above me has a tradng number of 1.
I have been enjoying lurking this foum. Seems like a good group!

Thanks

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The number represents the number of trades that the person has been involved in where the trader registered feedback (positive, negative or neutral) about the trade.

At this time you do not have access to the trading areas but access will be granted with time and participation.

As a new member you can check out (and participate) in the Newbie Sampler Trade (http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=46087)