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icehog3 05-10-2011 11:16 AM

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Franzen out, Modano in for the Wings.

Ahbroody 05-10-2011 11:18 AM

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Guess it just comes from years of underachieving. Skill is not the problem with this club. Its always been leadership and heart. Clowe had really established himself this year as that guy. Now when they need him more then ever hes gone likely for the series. Thinking that Kronwall hit did it.

Well like I said by the time I get home from the rink with the boy the game will be atleast half over.

icehog3 05-10-2011 11:22 AM

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Todd M. told the media the upper body injury to Clowe was not caused by the Kronwall hit.

Time for Super Joe P. to step up. I will be on-line after I watch the game on TiVo.

Any idea on Eager?

Ahbroody 05-10-2011 11:38 AM

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No on Eager. To be completely honest I have not watched or been focused on the Sharks as much as usual. To much family and kid hockey going. I have missed all the post game interviews as well for this series.

Just hoping the boys show up tonight.

Edit:
Hes been scratched since his game misconduct in game 2. Dog house? I think its time to let him out.

icehog3 05-10-2011 11:45 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ahbroody (Post 1258300)
Edit:
Hes been scratched since his game misconduct in game 2. Dog house? I think its time to let him out.

Agreed. :tu

Good skilz to Micha, and good luck to your "other" boys.

357 05-10-2011 11:50 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ahbroody (Post 1257271)
:r.
Well atleast your back. I was getting extremely bored. Mike ran away after I kept poking him. That or he is superstitious and we wont see him post till after the series is decided. I was about to start poking Bruins Fan again. :r. As my wife always says geez I wonder why Micah can be such an instigator.

I just cant cheer for the a few guys on the Canucks. My disdain for the Wings is more based on their obnoxious fans who live out here. I cant find flaw in their players except for clownshoes so in the end I would have to lean that way.

Nah, I was in Texas visiting my in-laws Thursday-Monday. Never watched a minute of TV let along hockey while I was there. Looking forward to tonights game 6.

From what I've read and seen in the highlights: I think it's funny how Clowe was running his mouth about wishing he could have gone after Kronwall at the end of game 4 (rather than Abs), only to get creamed by him in game 5.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lf-HK776GHA

Then, first report of why he's missing the game said flu, next "upper body" injury NOT related to the hit. Sorry, gotta call :bs. Talk radio around here is calling it the NK55 flu.

Either way it will be fun to watch; more fun if the Wings can force a game 7.

icehog3 05-10-2011 11:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 357 (Post 1258317)
Talk radio around here is calling it the NK55 flu.

I remember when Marty Havlat had that. :r

Ahbroody 05-10-2011 12:03 PM

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Yeah I am assuming it was the hit. He poped back up like nothing but Clowe is a heart and soul guy if he could move no way he was going to show any signs of pain.

I think McClellan's hand may be forced tonight with Eager. If he doesnt he may really screw the team provided he isnt hurt.

Ahbroody 05-10-2011 05:07 PM

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Lets go Sharks!

icehog3 05-10-2011 05:33 PM

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Hoping to be home before 9 so I can watch this thriller!

Eleven 05-10-2011 08:39 PM

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I sure hope Vancouver is resting and watching red wings tapes. I was really hoping for new blood in the SC finals, but San Jose just can't seem to get the job done.

Gophernut 05-10-2011 08:48 PM

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Got pretty chippy there at the end. Game 7 should be fun!!

mithrilG60 05-10-2011 08:58 PM

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Looks like whomever we get will be nice and tired by the time Game 1 rolls around ;) I'll root for the Wings simply because I was born in Windsor and their overall age means the long series will probably have a bigger effect on them

yourchoice 05-10-2011 09:09 PM

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Heck of a hockey game tonight. Some missed calls by the refs...as usual! :r Game should be fun!

Ahbroody 05-10-2011 09:26 PM

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Didnt watch it. When we got out of the rink they were losing and I kind of knew what was coming.
Looks like the Critics who have always questioned the core stars heart may be proven right yet again. Watching the post game sounds like the team has stopped skating and the Wings core leaders are showing more heart. Disappointment is common for Sharls fans so you just get used to it. A lot of talent, but yet again the core is coming up short in heart.


It is going to kill me if I have to root for the Wings. :r God will be punishing me

If the refing was like the other day I would agree, but as I always say good teams get it done when it matters. Sharks are not getting it done. I am suprised they wont call that soft pick the Wings run so much. The could call a few a game. Sharks have no excuse for this. They failed to finish them Sunday and some were pathetic with lack of effort.

E.J. 05-10-2011 10:52 PM

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Just finished the game.... Excited for game 7....

icehog3 05-10-2011 11:34 PM

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Shocked that the Wings came back to make it 3-3. Just off the cuff, right after finishing the game, my thoughts are these.

If San Jose wins Game 7, they will lose to Vancouver.

If Detroit wins Game 7, they will beat Vancouver.

Regardless, I will be rooting against Vancouver even if they are playing a team of pedophiles. ;)

Ahbroody 05-11-2011 12:38 AM

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I dont think either will beat the Nucks.
This Sharks team just pisses me off. Talent but where is the heart?
They had the Wings dead to rights in game 5 and couldnt hold a lead. Couldnt hold a lead again tonight. All year we heard they were finally over those issues they knew to just keep playing their game and they did in the begining, but then adversity strikes and the wheels fall off the wagon and its the same old story. Lots of talent little heart.

If they lose game 7 this will be a bigger slap in the face then winning the pres trophy and losing in the first round. Man this team is torture.

Will miss atleast the first period on thursday for hockey again with the boy. Atleast I can have pride and enjoyement in watching the boy.

Bruins Fan 05-11-2011 06:49 AM

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In my best Boston accent...They got no haaat :r

357 05-11-2011 07:05 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mithrilG60 (Post 1258845)
Looks like whomever we get will be nice and tired by the time Game 1 rolls around ;) I'll root for the Wings simply because I was born in Windsor and their overall age means the long series will probably have a bigger effect on them

:bdh

What a game! This is the first game of the series that the Wings dominated. Of the 6 games the Wings had a 1-0 lead and lost it with 8 minutes left in the 3rd of Game 1, lost a 2-1 lead with 4 min left in Game 3, out played San Jose (from what I read) in game 4, and straight up stole Game 5. Game 6 was a different one for sure. It was all Wings for probably 55 of the 60 minutes. Howard was very good again. Filpula, Datsyuk, Z, and Kronwall all had good games. When the Sharks scored first, I admit I was worried. Too many times in the past the Wings will dominate TOP, shots, chances, etc, only to end up losing the game. But, they kept up the pressure and it paid off.

Funny how the Wings didn't look like the old and slow team in this game. Like I've said before, if they lose it's cause they're old and slow. If they win it's experience. San Jose was beaten to the lose pucks all night, but rather than being old and slow, they "lack heart". Call it what you will, but the Wings finally got the better of them for a whole game. Game 7 should be a nail-biter.

As for the next round, whoever moves on I think will be emotionally and physically drained. Especially given the 3-0 to 3-3 comeback. I tend to agree with Tom. If the Wings win game 7, I think they can beat the Nucks. If the Sharks win, for whatever reason I think Vancouver will win the west.

LasciviousXXX 05-11-2011 07:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1258928)
If Detroit wins Game 7, they will beat Vancouver.


As a Wings fan, even I must say.... that's quite hopeful brother LOL.

Fantastic game last night! Excited for tomorrow :tu

icehog3 05-11-2011 08:11 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LasciviousXXX (Post 1259144)
As a Wings fan, even I must say.... that's quite hopeful brother LOL.

It's as much with my heart as with my head Brother, but Detroit has "been there" so many times that I think they can find a way.

LasciviousXXX 05-11-2011 08:22 AM

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Man don't I hope so. The Wings played with their heart and sheer adrenaline last night. It was one of those games where you could say that "they left it all out there on the ice". That being said, if they do make it past the sharks I think that the hard action and pace of this last series will play hell on some of them. Vancouver is just too quick and too good this season. However, the special teams could be there downfall :2

thenewguy 05-11-2011 10:20 AM

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You also have to look at Vancouver sitting while Detroit is on their roll. Same thing as the Wings sitting around stagnant the whole time while waiting on the Sharks to finish business... I think that coming into the WF with all that momentum, Vancouver is sure going to have their hands full. At least I hope so.. GO WINGS

357 05-11-2011 11:34 AM

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For anyone who missed that game 6 between the Wings/Sharks, here are some highlights...

http://video.redwings.nhl.com/videoc...20102011,3,246

rebelknight 05-11-2011 12:37 PM

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I'm not already looking at the what if for the Sharks. Even though they have appeared to completely collapse I still believe they can win one game which is all that matters at this point. However if I was to look ahead assuming the Sharks lose I wouldn't root for either western conference team. I'd love to see the Bolts win.

357 05-11-2011 01:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rebelknight (Post 1259441)
I'm not already looking at the what if for the Sharks. Even though they have appeared to completely collapse I still believe they can win one game which is all that matters at this point. However if I was to look ahead assuming the Sharks lose I wouldn't root for either western conference team. I'd love to see the Bolts win.

I agree. I'd love for Yzerman to get a cup as a GM.

icehog3 05-11-2011 01:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rebelknight (Post 1259441)
I'm not already looking at the what if for the Sharks. Even though they have appeared to completely collapse I still believe they can win one game which is all that matters at this point. However if I was to look ahead assuming the Sharks lose I wouldn't root for either western conference team. I'd love to see the Bolts win.

Problem being, I can see them winning "one more game" tomorrow, then losing 4 straight to the 'Nucks. I am almost hoping Detroit wins now, but I won't be upset if SJ wins....just pessimistic about beating Vancouver.

LasciviousXXX 05-11-2011 01:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 357 (Post 1259507)
I agree. I'd love for Yzerman to get a cup as a GM.

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o...i3tgfPQ_35.jpg


:banger

Ahbroody 05-11-2011 02:06 PM

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The Sharks may pull it out. If not I think its time to look at changing some big pieces as its not working. They are the bigger faster team and if they decide to skate like they did in games 1-3 I think they can win. The puck pursuit is slower and everyone is playing scared. The other issue is if they let the wings win the psych advantage which was gone will be renewed. Really a bad situation for the Sharks. They are scared to lose and not playing their usual game. The problem is the people that are supposed to be carrying the team are afk as usual in the playoffs and the guys who often carry them have not been coming through as much. On paper the Sharks are the better team, but as I said last night the heart/pride is missing. The playoffs is all about heart/pride. I really thought these days were behind the Sharks, but it is looking like same old $hit. I am pulling hard for the boys, and believe they can win if they just play their game.

icehog3 05-11-2011 02:22 PM

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Regardless, I am super stoked about tomorrow!

OK, I am torn....Sharks with my heart, Wings with my head.

357 05-11-2011 02:27 PM

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It's anyone's game tomorrow night.

Ahbroody 05-11-2011 03:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by thenewguy (Post 1259328)
You also have to look at Vancouver sitting while Detroit is on their roll. Same thing as the Wings sitting around stagnant the whole time while waiting on the Sharks to finish business... I think that coming into the WF with all that momentum, Vancouver is sure going to have their hands full. At least I hope so.. GO WINGS

To question the logic here one only needs to look at last years Sharks Wings series where the Wings went 7 and got rolled by the stagnant Sharks in 5. That Yotes Wings series was back and forth and I would argue less emotionally draining then this series. IF. Thats a big if still the Wings advance I still think they are ripe for picking. The Canucks are legit. I know Toms logic is they have a history of folding, but this team has been built well. I think there is the hatred trickling in clouding the judgement also. They were able to overcome Luongo $hitting his pants multiple times against the Hawks and I think Lous heads good now. He was strong against the Preds. Now I know the Preds are not an offensive Juggernaut, but I think the speed of the Canucks there depth, having a few players you need to be concearned about going cheepshot and the goalie advantage says its over in 6 to me maybe 5. If its the Sharks maybe a sweep. :r or maybe they win. Who friggin knows as this series has shown its why you play the game. One things for sure the Canucks are not the Sharks.

Agree Mike most Sharks fans are just hoping the Sharks decide to play their game and not let Det in their head.

ahc4353 05-11-2011 05:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ahbroody (Post 1258862)
Didnt watch it. When we got out of the rink they were losing and I kind of knew what was coming.
Looks like the Critics who have always questioned the core stars heart may be proven right yet again. Watching the post game sounds like the team has stopped skating and the Wings core leaders are showing more heart. Disappointment is common for Sharls fans so you just get used to it. A lot of talent, but yet again the core is coming up short in heart.


It is going to kill me if I have to root for the Wings. :r God will be punishing me

If the refing was like the other day I would agree, but as I always say good teams get it done when it matters. Sharks are not getting it done. I am suprised they wont call that soft pick the Wings run so much. The could call a few a game. Sharks have no excuse for this. They failed to finish them Sunday and some were pathetic with lack of effort.


:r Never heard that in hockey. :r

Ahbroody 05-11-2011 11:30 PM

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I dont know how else to describe it. Sorry Al I mean its clearly a pick but some guys have mastered how to do it just enough without making it look obvious. I think its obvious, but I keep watching for it.

Looks like the Thrashers are moving north.
http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Eklun...terest/1/35808

Ahbroody 05-12-2011 01:02 AM

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Que?

Bruins Fan 05-12-2011 03:11 AM

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Huh?

ahc4353 05-12-2011 06:03 AM

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Just never heard that in hockey. :D. I agree a lot of interference is not called.

Looking forward to tonight's game!

Gotta pull for the Wings, as an old guy and a D Man dad I have a soft spot for old D Men.

Eleven 05-12-2011 06:14 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by senatorpeppe (Post 1260016)
oldukca ilginc bir kac cevap verilmis, okumaya devam ediyorum. bittiÄŸinde ben de bir yorum yazarim artik...

Google says: "quite a few interesting answers given, and I continue to read. bittiÄŸinde I no longer write a comment ..."

So yea, thanks for that Senator, and right back atcha!

gpugliese 05-12-2011 06:49 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ahbroody (Post 1260009)
I dont know how else to describe it. Sorry Al I mean its clearly a pick but some guys have mastered how to do it just enough without making it look obvious. I think its obvious, but I keep watching for it.

Looks like the Thrashers are moving north.
http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Eklun...terest/1/35808

Eklund has about a 3% accuracy rate on his rumors, and that's being generous. Take anything he says with a huge grain of salt.

357 05-12-2011 07:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ahc4353 (Post 1260084)
Just never heard that in hockey. :D. I agree a lot of interference is not called.

Looking forward to tonight's game!

Gotta pull for the Wings, as an old guy and a D Man dad I have a soft spot for old D Men.

Well that soft pick gets used by both teams. Not to mention the cheating/interference SJ is running at the faceoffs. The Wings got called for it against Phoenix and have backed off of it. The Sharks seem to be getting away with it in this series. To be honest if it's minor I say let it go. If a guy is getting physically pushed away from the puck carrier, or if guys are getting dumped away from the play then call it. I can't tell you how many times you see a Wing getting dumped in the background, far away from the puck.

icehog3 05-12-2011 09:35 AM

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Cripes, let's play hockey.

Ahbroody 05-12-2011 09:36 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ahbroody (Post 1260029)
Que?

Below is why I posted my above. They deleted the post it appears it was a spam bot.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eleven (Post 1260089)
Google says: "quite a few interesting answers given, and I continue to read. bittiÄŸinde I no longer write a comment ..."

So yea, thanks for that Senator, and right back atcha!


As for your reply Mike I just have learned trying to discuss with you why certain things are or not called is a waste of time. Much like your trying to blame the series on one call in game one. We see the game as a whole differently.

That should get Al back in here. The fact we agreed on something is. :r

357 05-12-2011 10:09 AM

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I think we see the game through different color lenses. I admit the Wings got a way with what should have been some interference calls. So did the Sharks. I'm not blaming the series on a single call. That one just bothered me. If the Wings lose, it's because San Jose out played them for the better part of 4 of the games (so far, could be 5 after tonight).

I hope the Wings can blitz them tonight, score first, and keep their foot on the gas. If the Wings are in their head, you'll really know it if the Wings score first. If they are struggling mentally and the Wings score first, their reaction will tell the tale. I'm not sure if I buy that hype, but who knows. Either way it'll be a great game to watch. Can't wait till the puck drops.

rebelknight 05-12-2011 09:51 PM

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It may have taken an extra 3 games but the Sharks finally close the deal and Jumbo Joe played a phenomenal game. A lot of credit to Niemi and Marleau also. Wasn't proud of Marleau's play but he did have what became the game winner and any scoring out of him is something. Can't wait for the Vancouver series

LasciviousXXX 05-12-2011 09:58 PM

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Congrats to the Sharks. Some great play tonight.

It was a great series. I was hoping my wings could pull it off but I'm not upset with how they played tonight. Now I'm just looking forward to Vancouver beating SJ like the red-headed step children they are :tu

Eleven 05-12-2011 10:38 PM

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Gratz Sharks!

I don't think I have the same weird Love/Hate thing for any other team like I do the Wings.

I would kill to have Babcock coaching my favorite team, and Datsyuk and Zetterberg are a better all-around pair of players than any other 2 I can think of. But...I can't stand the Wings as a team. They get away with more penalties than any team I have ever seen, ever.

There may not be one single player I wouldn't want on my team, with the exception of bertuzzi, he is dead to me. But put that entire line up in a game, and I hate them.

I cheer against them virtually every time I see them, and I just rejoice in their collective failure. I can justify that by knowing that individually, the players I like are still great players, they just happen to be on the team I want to fail.

I'm so glad they are gone, I don't even care who wins the cup this year, as long as they don't!

:D

icehog3 05-12-2011 11:19 PM

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Congrats to the Wings for a good season...I sure hope Lidstrom comes back.

Congrats to the Sharks on their second straight trip to the Western Conference Finals. I will be rooting hard for them, but I don't have a lot of confidence that they can beat Vancouver, but few will be happier than I if they do.

How about an opening game shutout for Antti ("Niemi says 'NO' "), and the game winner for Ben Eager? :D

Happy for you Mike! :tu

Sad for you Mike! :(

Ahbroody 05-13-2011 12:19 AM

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Tyr that red headed stepchild has knocked you out two yeats in a row so I will just say.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYZyu...e_gdata_player
In all seriousness though Wings showed a ton of heart and pride. Dats and Zet are great. I hope Cleary is all right. That was scary. In the end the Sharks got Clowe back and with Cleary and that POS Bersmoochi pulling up lame the Sharks eeked it out. I can only hope I dont have to hear Mike complain about some random call or noncall that cost the Wings the series. I thought as a whole the refs let the boys play.

Scott I couldnt agree with your post more. As a Sharks fan and all the times the Wings did the Sharks we just like to see them fail. Its not right, but its fact. I was stunned they finally called that pick on the Wings in game 7. That one was really blatant. I take some joy in mentioning they had been doing it all series and having them call it. Thats the little stuff they always get away with I know you were referring to.


I actually watched almost the whole game as Micah wanted to skip hockey practice to watch the big game.

Tom I dont have a lot of faith either, but I can only hope Luongo $hits his pants as I dont think Nemo will. Both teams have a history of collapse. I do think after how banged up Detroit is right now the Sharks health wise had the better chance.

Ahbroody 05-13-2011 12:23 AM

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Enjoying my second celebratory smoke with an ice cold coca cola classic( non drinker).

:wo


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