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I wouldn't say they need legal subpoena power, and as for being a private entity, this isn't a typical job, they sign contracts, they have a players union, they have rules they agree to abide by and there are suspensions, bans and fines for breaking those rules, this is the price you pay for the chance to be famous and make millions of dollars a year, this isn't exactly some shmuck that works at McDonalds and his supervisor wants to see his phone just for the hell of it.

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Hey!!! I resemble that remark and take offense to it. :r

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If the tone of this continues to be personal, this thread is going the way of the dinosaur.

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this is why God invented the "burner" phone, well for that and when your family is Taken!

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It seems like every season a new drama plays out in the NFL.
I don't mean the human dramas like Ray Rice and Aaron Hernandez, but all these other things like Bountygate and deflated balls, etc., etc.

This goofiness puts talk back in the game that replaces all the talk that's missing because the game isn't nearly as awesome as it used to be.
I sometimes wonder if this stuff is scripted just so we have something to get passionate about since we no longer get to see guys like Lyle Alzado tearing someone's spine right out of their body.

Hating the Raiders was FUN.
Fussing about footballs and Brett Farve's weiner texts, not fun.

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Favre's wiener texts? Not fun?

Blasphemy.

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That's how he greeted his very best friends. He did much worse to opposing players.:r

On a serious and inquisitive note, why is it that in the past, Roger Goodell has been the victim of severe criticism that he is too close to the owners.
Now, that it doesn't suit an influential owner, he is biased and should recluse himself from the appeal process.
Things that make you go..........WTF???

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I hate the Raiders now and I'm a fan :lr

I do miss the old days of Lyle, Lester the Molester Hayes with Haynes on the other side, they would mug anyone the ball was thrown to on the sides, one of the best tandems in NFL history, as well as more stickum used by them than the entire Johnson and Johnson bandaid division :r They were a hell of a team, they could rack up the penalties and still win, teams were legitimately afraid to play them, God I miss those days. Granted now if you look at a player sideways, specially a Brady, you get a penalty. Suh would have fit right in with those Raiders back in the day.

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^^^Funny, exactly, Suh was classic old school NFL. Wish he was a Bronco, I'd have no problem with a game suspension, here and there.

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They make it up as they go along, Carlos.
Kinda like MLB. Whatever way the wind is blowing, that's how you set up camp.
I think my only gripe is like yours, there are no rules.
Everything is taken on it's own merit, and judged specifically.
It's odd that that bothers me, because I absolutely HATE mandatory sentencing. It makes no sense. Never has.
This "New NFL" is in it's infancy, and it's going through growing pains.
Sooner or later they'll hammer things out. Too much has changed way too fast.

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A Football Life on Lyle talking about the rule against throwing a helmet after having done so himself to an opponent's helmet, I suppose once was enough, nothing like ripping off someone's helmet then using it as a weapon against them. Football sucks now. :lr

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Lawyers, Ads. Lawyers.

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The more they make the more their lawyers protect them, that's on both sides, the business / owners and the players / agents. Of course I mean by suing and protecting against suits, I'm sure it could be quite the 360 of bs, not to mention Little Johnny's mom suing because he saw something violent in a game on t.v. then tried it at home like a little dipship.

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Best line of the week goes to the Patriots!

"Mr. Jastremski would sometimes work out and bulk up -- he is a slender guy and his goal was to get to 200 pounds. Mr. McNally is a big fellow and had the opposite goal: to lose weight. "Deflate" was a term they used to refer to losing weight. One can specifically see this use of the term in a Nov. 30, 2014 text from Mr. McNally to Mr. Jastremski: "deflate and give somebody that jacket." (p. 87). This banter, and Mr. McNally's goal of losing weight, meant Mr. McNally was the "deflator." There was nothing complicated or sinister about it."

:lr:lr:lr

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That sounds pretty weak, even to me.

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Pretty much. Sean Payton (head coach of the Saints) received a one year unpaid suspension because (in the words of Goodell), "ignorance is not an excuse. You're the head coach. You should've known." Their GM was also suspended eight games, the team fined 500k, and lost two consecutive second round picks. That's not to mention the players/coaches who were directly involved.

Just be thankful Goodell isn't taking that stance this time around.

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Simple, because Goodell sucks as a Commissioner. He's got a 1st class ticket on board the gravy train, and he's done everything in his power to derail it.

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Nothing gets between Brett and his Wranglers...excepting the occassional camera phone.

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I take back all of my thoughts that anything against the rules was going on. I wonder if he's doing the Paleo diet?

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Jesus! A friggin' year? Sounds like BS to me. Ignorance of a rule/law is no excuse but ignorance of the offense puts it beyond volition and therefore beyond guilt.

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This, x1000. When you make Gary Bettman look competent and confident, you know you're a crappy sports commissioner.

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Funny, all the Goodell hate. He's not perfect, but he's been a windfall of $$$$ for the owners. Their net worth has increased like never before under Mr. Goodell.

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Which stems from TV contracts, which stems from the popularity of the sport, which stems from the rise in popularity in fantasy football, which has zilch to do with Goodell. Gregg Levy would've made a much better Commissioner.

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That's actually not true at all, he's a businessman and marketer, football doesn't just shoot fireballs of money out of it's ass.

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Like this?

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...laming_ass.jpg

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I wonder if those are Wranger jeans.

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I still think it's a conspiracy.

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When you have television networks actively competing to televise your product, it sure as sh!t does. Why do you think DirecTV just paid $12 billion to continue to have exclusive broadcast rights to out of market games? Because otherwise nobody would use their sh!tty product. The league rolls on in spite of, not because of him.

What ingenious marketing does he do? When fantasy football became easily accessible (ie, able to be done online) and not seen in the mainstream as, "nerdy", it connected with fans on a different level that doesn't happen with the NBA/MLB/NHL. It's not a time sink, but one is still invested. Much like NCAA office pools. That happened under Tagliabue's watch, not Goodell's.

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Carhartt's.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQZWcWBoyOw

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:confused:
I use DirecTv, and I couldnt give a sh!t about out of market football games.

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Being a Bears fan, I'd imagine you don't give a sh!t about in market football games, either. :D

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I'm always glad the Blackhawks are starting a month or so after the Bears so I can see some wins. :r

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Interesting.
Team will not appeal judgment.
Will accept punishment as has been handed down.

Let the legal scholar debate begin but this is what I would call a "quiet" admission. If so outraged, why not appeal it? Food for thought.

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Let me channel Thomas here and say, remember when Arod was going to sue everyone under the Sun?

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And didn't Barry Bonds just file a collusion suit? :D

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Way too funny!

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...503c17abd4.jpg

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Sure did. That one will be interesting to see how it plays out.

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I like the old model with the little video camera. :D

See? Even I can laugh about it.

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Well they accepted the penalties so :sh

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Kraft needs Goodell to stay as commissioner for Kraft to have the power he has in the league. If Kraft pressured other owners or somehow pushed Goodell out; he may not have a champion/puppet on his side with the next commissioner. The money and draft picks is just the price you pay to be in the position he is. Kraft was stupid to comment like he did before the report came out.

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She's not dead, that's afterglow. :D

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As far as I see it, if your not cheating, your not trying hard enough. Looks like the Patriots are the only team that deserves the Super Bowl championship.

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They don't have a monopoly on that. On another note: they really need to get control of the constant rule changes; I can't keep up.

In baseball, has anyone ever heard a base runner say to the ump "I was out' or "I missed second"? Ty Cobb constantly spiked the crap out of the shins of his opponents (he was a colossal douche-bag), and pitchers have always tried to doctor the balls. If you can get around the ump, you can get away with it. Baseball players are always trying to "deke" the play; you know, drop an infield pop-up to get the easy out at second. Football, on the other hand, has gotten prissy.

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Darren, I knows you're out of your element with this football deal.
Here's the thing. Bill Belichick is the best football mind EVAR. He has been since he put together the totally insane coaching squad that skipped out of Cleveland long ago.
I mean, seriously, mano eh mano, Belichick is that guy. Maybe someone could make a Coughlin argument.
But nobody has been so learned and married to the game as Belichick has been since the 90's.
If he sees a way to undress you, your skirt is coming off.
THAT is a coach's job.

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We love him up here. He learned football at his father's knee at Annapolis. His father is the only civilian to be granted the honor of being buried there. I was just making a general statement about football and how it seems to have become needlessly complicated and how baseball looks rather "laissez faire" in comparison.

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Obviously the only solution is that if a pitcher is seen scuffing the baseball, he needs to be banned for life and the team he was playing against needs to sue him.

;)