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Don't try to tell us you thought it was a wild ride of an episode. It Draaaagggggeeeeeddddd.

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RIFE WITH SPOILERS

I thought the Beth episode was a mistake, I was burning it to a DVD and I could SEE that it seemed like the whole
episode was Beth. I thought, wait, is this show even OUT yet? Maybe this is a hoax. But I watched it and it made
sense, but in a lot of ways, I forgave the pace of it for the REALLY intense microcosm of a world they have yet to see,
but is certainly happening in one weird form or another in a lot of places across the country now locked in the undead
apocalypse. It also REALLY juxtaposed her way of thinking with theirs...She thinks "How can they STAY here?"
It was clear they thought "How could ANYONE go out THERE?" Beth has been living and surviving and had a lot of moments
where she had just accepted the new normal of sleeping with one eye open as the price of what she now knows was freedom.
I mean it has been written into two episodes now, the fact that the group feels they are bad-a55 enough to deal with
any random zombie that should happen by, gone out of their way to SHOW IT a few times.....Beth KNOWS that all you
really have to do is stay clear of herds, keep reasonably quiet and always alert. But the people in that hospital, man,
they are much more freaked out by it all it seems.

And now on top of that, you get Carol wheeled in, and now you KNOW that Beth wants out as soon as she can conspire
with Carol. But man, how to hide the connection to keep it safe? And is Carol now a kind of swing vote or something?
I could see her getting out of the rat race for some quiet, purpose-driven time at the hospital. You do have to consider
that in the previous episode, she was just TIRED. Everything had changed, she was not even sure she wanted to re-connect
with Darryl, or so it seemed to me. I think she still carries a grudge and realizes if she stays with them she is going to
have to come to terms with them judging her for something that she felt was perfectly correct to do. Who knows now.

But what the episode was was just another set piece to drag everything back down to the farm speed. But the angles
of this new wrinkle are about as wide open as can be. Can it be that the team will now be just another conqueror?
I mean in the sense of being "the Governor"s? Come in, assess the crazy level, kill the right 3-4 people and ALL settle
down to be the new face of civilization in the ATL?
Boggles the mind.

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ALSO SPOILERY

The only saving grace to that episode was seeing Carol wheeled in. Speculation is that she's faking it, that she and Darryl some how scouted the place and got info that Beth was in there.... That means only one thing: Carol's now gonna kick some hospital people @ss... I'm guessing that since this is just a side-plot, there's just going to be one more episode to close it out (not the next episode apparently, as they're running concurrent?)... but two episodes from now, or whenever, there is going to be a lot of dead people in the hospital...

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What a good episode it is good that it has nothing else to compare it to nothing in the comic and the they all thought Atlanta was abandoned in the first season.
Except for the "Vatos"

This opens the series up to a whole new area :2

Beth's slight smile at the the end when "Chris Rock" made it through the gate was excellent.

And Carol Love that part :banger

Can't wait for more

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OH I KNOW what else I had to say about that! I had forgotten and tried to weave one more Carol-related/Beth
deal....that was not it. It was the fact that The shogun asked Darryl at the edge of the woods, "Is Carol With you?"
and Darryl said "Come on out" to some person in the woods. But at the very last second, we find OUT that the
person is NOT Carol. THAT was what stuck in my mind......WHO the hell? I thought back over the seasons trying
to figure out who is just missing, not eaten. I didn't come up with much.

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It was a weird episode, but there was a lot going on and it was very interesting to me

I think when Darryl says "Come on out" I think that is a a flashback or a Quentin Tarantino type skip around, I think somehow Darryl & Carol hear the gunshots from Beth & "Chris Rock" they meet up with "Chris" and they set up a plan to have Carol get into the Hosp to save Beth, then all hell breaks loose.

Someone mentioned to me that the next episode will all be about the other group (Mullet, Glen, Maggie & the Commando guy) I tend to believe that. we shall see this Sunday, but I don't think we are going to get a conclusion to the "Beth situation" just yet......stay tuned true believers.

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Also remember Morgan from the very first episode is kicking around the forest near the church as well. Darryl could have met up with him.

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Ok... caught up on the last two...

Don't know anyone else's take on these, but they were both a bit slow.

(spoilers! don't read if you're behind)

The splinter group episode with Abraham was... ok. I liked the way they really portray him as almost desperately clinging on to the cure (later found out to be a bold faced lie)... and they do a decent job of showing why it's so important to him. I thought they missed a bit on showing what happened to his family... I was able to put it together, but they left it a bit more ambiguous than I'd like (in the comics if I remember correctly it was men from his own group who raped his wife and daughter, who he then had to kill with his bare hands. In this episode it seemed like it was just random guys....)

Last night's episode played out pretty much as expected, no real surprises there. It was a really quiet, subdued episode but I think it worked because it was mainly focusing on two characters who are best when they're quiet. Carol and Daryl are both so workman-like about dispatching zombies, no screaming, no crying... they're like a machine.

1 - good to see that Beth's friend found Carol/Daryl... too bad he was a d$ck about it
2 - now we know how the hospital "recruits" people who they save and keep on to work to pay off their debt... they make their own customers with a swift collision
3 - I'm excited for some terminus-level justice to be exacted on the hospital... next week I guess.

So, I know how things resolve themselves between Abraham and Eugene-the-science guy in the comics... I wonder how they're planning on playing it out in the series. Anyone have any bets? Couple good hits and they're square? A kick in the nuts? Carol style exile for Eugene? Is Rosita going to have to intervene to keep him alive?

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Another slow episode. Only two more weeks and other than the first episode, this season has been extremely SLOW.

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The 3rd episode where they dispatched Gareth's group was a reasonably paced episode...

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My thought exactly Mac. They blew their wad early with Termius and now we are just coasting to a christmas break...

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Well damn, I was WAY off......how about that Ambulance scene tho eh? :tu

:po

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(spoiler)
I think this season is excellent.

I thought that It was going to be a setup and Carol was going to be a plant into the hospital to work it from the inside out.
Getting hit by the car is great and she has to go in there. Does she revert back to the weak Carol that her ex-husband used to smack around or does she come out even stronger. What was with the book I thought she was putting that behind her.
This will be a great battle in the mid-season finale.

Can't wait.:tu

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I don't think she is going back to her old self, I believe she is just fatigued, this rest in the hosp may be what she needs.

About the book, according to Talking Dead Darryl was taking the book, because of his past with Merle & his father, so not sure where that's going to take us.

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Yeah, that scene confused me at first as well. I thought the book fell out of carol's backpack, but i guess it was supposed to be darryl's pack and it just fell out when she was handing it to him or something. I hope it's just Darryl coping with his past. Hopefully it doesn't turn him into some sort of sensitive sally... can't lose the most efficient zombie-killing machine around.

I also had a secret hope Carol was just bluffing when she got wheeled in, and she was going to get up and start killing people right and left. But I guess I was wrong. We have to wait for Rick to show up for the real violence to begin.

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I have not watched 5 & 6 yet, I am waiting until my computer stops being tied up with another project.
Then I'll burn em to a disc and watch em. But I had to comment on this nevertheless. You can
toss away all the thoughts you might have that Carol will EVER go back to being a wallflower. If she takes
a smack of ANY KIND, it will be during the day previous to the night where she cuts the person's throat.
She is never going back to that.

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That was a.... juicy... episode.

A bit of a filler, setting everything up for next week's season break. But still had some fun action in it.

Definitely award winning "best use of a zombie in a fight" moves by Darryl.

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I thought Darryl was a goner, and then bam Mcgyver style lol

Ok, so where is Gabriel going? Remember the group found him outside.......if he is as scared as he seems wouldn't he just stay in the church??? Idk about that dude.....mayeb he'll meet up with Morgan.

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I think gabriel is more running away from the people he thinks are homicidal maniacs (rick's group... and in all fairness if you hadn't seen anyone for all that time and the first people you meet execute some other people right in front of you, you might be a little apprehensive too)..... I suspect he'll come around. Or they'll just kill him off. He was looking for food when they met him the first time.

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Holy Crap!!!!! Poor Maggie.........What is up with Morgan? Is he sane yet?

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I think he is. The whole time I thought he knew whom he was following, but until he saw the map I don't think he knew.

Can someone explain to my little mind what exactly did Beth mean when she said "I get it now" to the crazy officer lady.

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I've been trying to figure that out as well.

My best guess is that it somehow ties into her talk with Dawn about how Dawn always gets someone else to do her dirty work or something....

Either beth "gets it" by realizing she can get someone else to do the work of killing Dawn for her... or Beth "gets it" by realizing that Dawn isn't changing at all, that she's still willing to do cruel things to maintain the appearance of power.

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Didn't see the whole Beth thing coming...wasted all season working up to save and her and then this?? All in all, was a decent episode though.

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The tension around Beth had been growing. Pretty episode. I had missed a week or two, but on Fox Asia, it's on regular Fox, not FX. The are played the episode last night. What night of the week is it in USA? Fox Asia says say day coverage, so that'd mean it airs in Asia first...

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It shows on Sundays on AMC in the U.S.

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Ok, so it was first in USA but within 24 hours in Asia.

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I really wish this midseason had ended stronger. I kind of felt like they really didn't accomplish much after that butt-kicking start.

I mean.... the first 3 episodes were strong finishes to the terminus theme ... between carol's rambo moves in episode 1 to Rick's executioner style in episode 3 there was a lot of action and tension.

But then... we had to fiddle around with beth's situation in episode 4, Eugene's big lie in episode 5, Carol and Darryl's big adventure in episode 6 (ok, that one was really good anyway...) and then episode 7 to bring them to a common point so episode 8 could be executed.

With all the buildup to bring it together, I just was hoping for a bit more. Maybe the problem was they never really fleshed out the hospital group much. There weren't enough identifiable characters, no reason to hope for any particular outcome. I didn't wish dawn dead or alive...

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I kinda liked Dawn and thought she could have been swayed to be a better person with Rick's group.

According to Kirkman, some big changes are coming this next season (not sure if he meant the rest of this season or next), but he kind of hinted about Maggie and how she will deal with this, and there is supposedly another foe coming that is supposed to be worse than the governor....he also hinted that they will be out of the Atlanta region soon.

I personally thought it was a good season & I enjoyed the mid-season finale.

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It was good... I don't mean to be a negative nancy. It's still the best thing on tv. I just felt like it started the half-season way stronger than it ended.

If they're gonna follow the comic books then there is going to be a new baddie who is WAAAYYY worse than the gov. We'll see.

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I need to re-read the comics, since they weren't following them as much I became uninterested

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After watching 7 & 8 back to back last night, I am probably done with this show.
I DO give em credit for not trying the BS cliff-hanger episode thing with episode 8,
but I just think the show itself seems spent. Its not that they don't have the right
to do it the way they wish, but they are NOT compelling me to come back.
That sounds stupid having just said I hate cliff-hangers, but there doesn't seem to be
much to care about going forward. I was hoping that Beth would get comfortable in this
new life on the road and just bust out that bikini she found while out looking for baby
formula, lol. Now the only thing she'll be busting out is maggots. I am glad we have a
new hot girl rolling with the group, and I have liked Abraham since Band of Brothers.
We'll see, I doubt I will abandon it, but its easier and easier each half-season to say
F it.

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The midseason premier is starting next week I believe!

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Yessss.....

LOTS filmed within one mile of my house this season. Neat to see stuff I see everyday

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3 DAYS!!!!! & Don't forget afterwards the premiere of Better Call Saul!!!! :wo

I have been re-reading the comics (I never finished them, especially after the show started), wow I really REALLY hope they introduce a new character that Kirkman teased about on Talking dead last mid season.

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I stopped the comics around Negan. I'll probably pick up again after that thread has been resolved. I couldn't handle the cliffhangers. :)

Should we start a new thread? I mean were not on season 4 any longer....

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Yeah, new thread needs to be had......I am caught up on the comics now......Holy Chit!!!! :jd