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smitty81 05-26-2012 04:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BlkDrew (Post 1643812)
how do you think dan got them? haha i have been waiting patiently, thanks for the great review guys.

Pretty good man! I was wanting to try one of your cigars.

Just for the record Dan, I knew this one wasnt a cc because of the retrohale......

Good smoke though.

DBall 05-26-2012 06:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Brutus2600 (Post 1643813)
Well you were selling a lot ;) lol, I just wondered if you knew he was using them in the BTT :)


Drew lives in the same city as me and, while not as often as we should, we get together and smoke cigars on the balcony. I asked him for a couple cigars for this thing and he brought em over.

I figured it would not only be a fun twist, but a way for Drew to get a 100% honest and unbiased review of his cigars.

Success on both counts!

:tu

ApexAZ 05-27-2012 01:12 AM

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Haha, awesome! I dig the Roxy's.

DBall 06-06-2012 06:17 AM

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Bump...

Blak Smyth 06-06-2012 06:54 AM

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Wow I didn't see these Roxy reviews until now.
Awesome twist Dan!!!
It is nice to see the caramel and cream similarities between both reviews.
I had the pleasure of smoking a fresh roll Roxy Brain Stick last weekend and it was the best so far. Doing awesome work Drew!
Awesome pass Dan!!!

ApexAZ 06-06-2012 08:42 AM

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Still waiting to smoke 9 and 10. I will probably smoke 9 tomorrow or Friday. I'm not sure smitty has even smoked 7 yet.

DBall 06-06-2012 11:17 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ApexAZ (Post 1650269)
Still waiting to smoke 9 and 10. I will probably smoke 9 tomorrow or Friday. I'm not sure smitty has even smoked 7 yet.

I do not believe he has.

Hem 06-06-2012 11:44 AM

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Just caught on to this thread. Awesome reviews and an ingenious idea! Can't wait to see what's next! :)

smitty81 06-06-2012 12:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DBall (Post 1650394)
I do not believe he has.

I will see if I cant get it sent over to you tonight.

GTCanuk 06-10-2012 07:00 AM

Re: DBall's Newb Blind Taste Test #5
 
Bump

DBall 06-10-2012 06:13 PM

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ApexAZ Cigar #7
*************

5/14/2012

Okay, moving onto #7 in DBall's Blind Taste Test. I'll be pairing it with a double of whisky and a Pellegrino. Even though it's 8:15 P.M., it's still like 100 degrees out, so I'll probably be smoking faster than usual. It's warm. Phoenix summer is here. Ugh.

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Pre-light
This cigar is about 5 3/4" long and has a ring guage around 38. The wrapper is slightly darker than the others and has one large vein throughout it's length. It also has somewhat of a roughly placed single cap (at least it appears so). The construction seems good enough, but the cigar just looks a little rough around the edges and it's very light. The cigar looks and feels old to me. The scent off the foot has a very, very slight tobacco smell. I had to really concentrate to smell it, it was so faint.

The pre-light draw seems fine, and I taste nothing but a slight grass/wood type flavor, which is also very faint.

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1st Third
Like the others, the cigar is very smooth right off the bat. I don't think any have ever had that in-your-face blast of pepper like so many Nicaraguans do. This is a good thing to me. While I don't mind a bit of pepper, the first few puffs can be pretty brutal before things start to settle. On the other hand, I don't taste a lot at first on these either. After about 3/4" I'm finally starting to get some sweet flavor, but unable to pintpoint exactly what it tastes like just yet. About 1.5" in the flavor is kind of a toasty sweet cream flavor. It's very smooth and mild, but somewhat muted. The draw and burn have been perfect, and the salt and pepper ash drops on it's own after about 3/4".

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2nd Third
I start getting into the 2nd third after about 25 minutes. The flavor is starting to really pick up now and it's really tasty. Notes of vanilla come in, as well as some charred wood. It's pretty dang good. It's still very mild and creamy with mild strength. The burn has continued to be perfect.

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Final Third
45 minutes passed before getting into the final 3rd. The flavor continues to get sweeter. It's more of a toasty coffee, vanilla, caramel type mix. I'm digging it. What is it about these that make them so sweet? There must be something in the soil that promotes a lot of glucose or something? The burn continues to be perfect. Things are more medium now and the flavors just continue to fuller, sweeter and better with every puff. It's quite good and sadly it had to end with about 1/2" left.

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Conclusion
This cigar was one of my favorites so far and I give it a 9/10. I really loved it! Thanks, Dan!

Score: 9/10

Total smoke time: 75 minutes

DBall 06-10-2012 06:14 PM

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smitty81 Cigar #7
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Stick #7 is about 5-3/4 long and is about a 36 Ga. cigar. The construction of it is very soft and mushy with a single cap. There are some large veins in the wrapper and overall, this cigar looks pretty rough.

My first impression of this cigar after inspecting the construction of the cigar is that this cigar must be a cheaper value cigar.


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I found the draw to be pretty tight on this cigar. The flavor on the other hand was awesome.


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I'm not gonna take the time to break this cigar down into thirds as it basically retained it's flavor through out the entire cigar.

The burn was OK for the most part but I did have to touch it up a few times as the large veins in the wrapper seemed to keep it from burning real well.
There was very little to no smoke.

The flavor was AWESOME. The flavor was a very nice sweet cream-grassy flavor. I was really digging the flavor of this one.


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I did retrohale with this cigar and based on the retrohale, I took an educated guess that this is a CC because my nose was not on fire afterwords. This was a really smooth cigar.



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I truly enjoyed the flavor of this cigar down to about the last inch or so and then it started getting a bit harsh. I had been wondering if short filler was used in this cigar based on the construction. I did a little dissection with the nub and found short filler indeed.

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After this cigar, I truly feel that I have learned something from this experience Dan has so kindly offered to me.

I feel that the conception I have gathered from my time here is that short filler is for cheaply made cigars. That may well be but 2 of the 3 cigars that I have really enjoyed flavor wise have had short filler.

To me short filler only means one thing which is the second thing I feel that I have learned. It means a tighter draw to me. Both of the short filler cigars I have enjoyed have both had a pretty tight draw which makes sense to me once I stop and think about why that would be so.

I give this cigar an 8/10 based on the draw issues. If it would have been a bit easier on the draw, I would have rated it between a 9 & 10.

Tasty!

DBall 06-10-2012 06:19 PM

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What they smoked:

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1999 La Flor de Cano Selectos

ApexAZ score: 9

smitty81 score: 8

Nice! To call this a "cheap" cigar would be an understatement. A better adjective would be "free". There were vendors literally giving away 5 packs with orders years back (multiple 5 packs with some orders in fact). I took all the 5 packs I got and threw them in some empty 50 cab and buried them in my tower. I'll still take these out at the golf course and be quite happy with how they are smoking. Hell... after reading these reviews, I may go have one now!

htown 06-10-2012 07:04 PM

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I have a few five packs kicking around and when I feel like my palate is a little off I will sometimes pick one of these guys up and half the time I enjoy them- the other half I figure I was right about the palate being wonky.

ApexAZ 06-10-2012 08:11 PM

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Pretty damn good for being free.

DBall 06-11-2012 06:10 AM

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Had one last night... Honestly, I was floored by how good it was in the first half... reminded me of really old RyJ/Punch with that sweet fruitiness and notes of chocolate. The second half was kinda 'meh', but the first half was crazy good.

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Hem 06-11-2012 06:25 AM

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Great reviews once again! Awesome to see how they both come to similar conclusions, I love this thread!-(P

44stampede 06-12-2012 01:18 AM

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Nice ones gents. This is pretty fun.

akumushi 06-12-2012 07:18 AM

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The selectos I had from the freebie fivers all tasted like red vines licorice and musty cardboard to me. My wife claimed they gave me dragon breath from hell. Guess it goes to show that taste is subjective :r

DBall 06-12-2012 07:42 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by akumushi (Post 1654207)
The selectos I had from the freebie fivers all tasted like red vines licorice and musty cardboard to me. My wife claimed they gave me dragon breath from hell. Guess it goes to show that taste is subjective :r


Even now, though? When was the last time ya tried one? :)

akumushi 06-12-2012 09:40 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DBall (Post 1654231)
Even now, though? When was the last time ya tried one? :)

It's been a of couple years, but they were over a decade old when I last smoked them. At that point a cigar is either too far gone or should by all accounts be ready to smoke. I'm sure there is a wide variance in the conditions some of these were stored in. If you got ones that had been treated nicely over the years then they probably taste much better than mine did, as the ones I had were in pretty miserable shape when I got them and were no better after a couple of years in the humi. IMO, they were beyond salvation. The same can be said for a lot of the "sale" sticks. Some people got phenominal boxes of aged smokes at bargain basement prices and some people payed too much for moldy tent poles. It was an absolute crapshoot. At least these were free, so I'm not complaining, just saying that even for free smokes, the fivers I had were pretty hard to gag down. YMMV :tu

CRIMPS 06-12-2012 09:55 AM

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Great stuff. While I thoroughly enjoy reading reviews that are almost bi-polar, I also enjoy seeing two blind reviews that are very similar, both picking up on similar tastes.

Keep them coming. :tu

GTCanuk 06-16-2012 07:08 PM

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Bump ;s

ChicagoWhiteSox 06-16-2012 07:12 PM

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The 1998 LFDC selectos are great for morning cigars:2

Nathan 06-16-2012 08:11 PM

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This has been a very cool thread to read

smitty81 06-19-2012 01:19 PM

Re: DBall's Newb Blind Taste Test #5
 
bump

DBall 06-19-2012 07:48 PM

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ApexAZ Cigar #8
*************


5/21/2012

I'll be pairing #8 with a Sunbru by the local Arizona brewer Four Peaks. The nights just keep getting warmer, so I'll probably continue to smoke at a slightly faster pace.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7235/7...3c8cc399ec.jpg

Pre-light
This cigar is about 5" long and has a ring guage around 42. The wrapper is light and smooth with only small veins. Slightly spongy, the overall construction feels good with a triple cap. The cigar looks and feels old to me. The smell of the tobacco is not much different from the others: a mix of manure and tobacco.

The pre-light draw is pretty good and I taste a mix of wood and cardboard. Nothing too exciting really.

1st Third
Ugh, it's freaking hot outside. The first few puffs don't have a lot of flavor, which has been pretty typical of all of these so far. A little bit of sweetness, but not much else. Some very faint sweet cream and leather come through for an over all very mild smoke. The burn is perfect and the ash drops after about 3/4".

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8012/7...87069db59e.jpg


2nd Third
20 minutes in and I hit the 2nd third of the cigar. The strength and body continue to be mild, although the flavor is starting to build slightly. The sweetness isn't as prevalent. It's more of a toasted nut and earthy type flavor. It's hard to describe really. The burn, draw and ash all continue to be flawless.

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Final Third
I hit the final 3rd about 40 minutes in. The strength and body are both medium now and the cigar reminds me more of a Dominican in flavor, which I think is mainly due to the fact that it isn't as sweet as some of the others have been. So far it hasn't developed into what I would consider great, but not bad either. I taste an earthy leather more than anything. I don't really get any toasted nuts anymore. Burn was perfect all the way through!

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Conclusion
BTT # 8 was decent. Not as exciting as some of the others before it, but still pretty good. I give it a 7/10. Thank you, Dan!

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Score: 7/10

Total smoke time: 55 minutes

DBall 06-19-2012 07:49 PM

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smitty81 Cigar #8
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Cigar # 8 will be enjoyed with a ginger ale on this fine summer night. Temp is in the low to mid 80's with a slight breeze. Thunderstorms to the south of us so some nice clouds to watch and the sunset is making everything look pinkish/orange. Beautiful night that has made me appreciate this fine cigar all that much more.

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This cigar has a nice construction. Nice and firm but not hard. This cigar has no big veins in the wrapper and it looks like a good quality cigar that someone would be proud to put their cigar band on.

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The first draw is always my favorite, it's like opening a present on Christmas morning.

The first draw was a strong green flavor. I actually enjoy the green flavor many of these cc's have. (see, I'm already guessing it's a cc)

This green flavor last up to about the beginning of the 2/3rd of the cigar.

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The 2/3rd of this cigar has went from tasting green to tasting slightly creamy with a little bit of sweetness in the background. Nothing real strong here, just nice and relaxing like the night I had outside.

I did retro hale and for the first time ever, I finally got something out of it. I was able to pick up a different flavor. The flavor I picked up during the retro hale was VERY brief and it took me a few times to decide what I was smelling/tasting. I finally decided on grandma smell.

I'm not talking about moth ball grandma smell but rather the take a bath in your perfume kind of grandma. That smell when you go to church and walk past a group of old ladies. It was even a perfume I would expect a grandma to wear, very floral.

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OK, the last third of this cigar has also taken a change in flavor. I am now getting that floral taste like I got with the retro hale earlier. This is the first cigar I have ever had that has had a floral taste to it and honestly, while it wasn't a bad flavor, it really isn't something that I would like to taste in a cigar. Maybe if it was a different kind of floral it wouldn't be as bad. Its almost as if someone took a very fragrant flower, stem and all and wrapped it up into a cigar. This cigar was so interesting to me.

While I may not have liked it, it was an awesome new experience for me. There were distinct flavor changes that I noticed, Some flavors that I enjoyed and a new flavor that I have never experienced with a cigar. This was a "fun" and interesting cigar to smoke.

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A picture to cap off my very enjoyable night. I wasn't going to have a smoke tonight but I am so glad I did.

I am having a tough time grading this one. Based on flavors, I wouldn't rate it real high but it always kept changing in flavor and that was very interesting and enjoyable to me. Not to mention this cigar practically had a perfect burn.

I will say a 7.5/10

DBall 06-19-2012 07:53 PM

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What they smoked:

http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/w...yx/BTT5-08.jpg

2008 Pro Larranaga Petit Corona

ApexAZ score: 7

smitty81 score: 7.5

Glad you liked these... for the most part. While I haven't visited these in some time, I remember vividly thinking that they were no where near ready last time I did. I may have to try another one soon... :tu

44stampede 06-19-2012 09:34 PM

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I am about to pull the trigger on a cab of these. Based on the reviews I am a little gun shy. Someone tell me the 2011 is a good year to smoke them fresh!!

Blak Smyth 06-20-2012 08:11 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 44stampede (Post 1661535)
I am about to pull the trigger on a cab of these. Based on the reviews I am a little gun shy. Someone tell me the 2011 is a good year to smoke them fresh!!

I am smoking through a cab now, do it :tu

Good reviews guys, once again pretty similar reviews.
I love the complexity of CCs, they are unlike any NC I have ever experienced.

CRIMPS 06-20-2012 01:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 44stampede (Post 1661535)
I am about to pull the trigger on a cab of these. Based on the reviews I am a little gun shy. Someone tell me the 2011 is a good year to smoke them fresh!!

I, too, am burning through a 2011 cab. 2011's are smoking really well. :)

Great reviews.

I guess I am not familiar with flavors "grandma" and "green". I will have to keep an eye out for these :)

smitty81 06-21-2012 07:07 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CRIMPS (Post 1662070)
I, too, am burning through a 2011 cab. 2011's are smoking really well. :)

Great reviews.

I guess I am not familiar with flavors "grandma" and "green". I will have to keep an eye out for these :)

I am new and still trying to find my palate.

I was associating smells with taste. Better words to describe it would be a Strong floral smell and Grassy.

DBall 07-03-2012 06:54 AM

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Bump.

ApexAZ 07-06-2012 01:07 PM

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Finished mine up over the 4th. What a great experience this was! I'm really looking forward to seeing the results from the last 2.

Dan, you are the man. Thanks so much. I don't know how to repay you!

smitty81 07-06-2012 01:10 PM

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I will be finished up this weekend.

Thanks Dan.

DBall 07-06-2012 06:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ApexAZ (Post 1674445)
Dan, you are the man. Thanks so much. I don't know how to repay you!

If you enjoyed the cigars and the experiment, you've repaid me plenty... :tu

GTCanuk 07-09-2012 08:19 PM

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Re-bump

ApexAZ 07-10-2012 11:11 AM

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Let's go, Smitty! Do it up!

jonumberone 07-12-2012 09:18 AM

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Bump Diggity!

smitty81 07-12-2012 09:28 AM

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I sent #9 in this morning. Sorry I'm so slow guys, Work has been getting in the way a LOT lately. I will try my darndest to have #10 done before the weekend.

Sorry guys.

LasciviousXXX 07-12-2012 09:42 AM

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Man I love these threads :tu

Good job to all involved!

FriendlyMan 07-12-2012 11:57 AM

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If I may ask how exactly dose this work? If I say I'm in the next person responding gets 5 sticks from me? And do I need to guess which cigars they are? Or just review them?
Thanks.

Blak Smyth 07-12-2012 12:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FriendlyMan (Post 1678363)
If I may ask how exactly dose this work? If I say I'm in the next person responding gets 5 sticks from me? And do I need to guess which cigars they are? Or just review them?
Thanks.

This was a blind review offered to two individuals who had applied in the beginning. They where selected and have completed all reviews, we are waiting to see the last one I believe. DBall was generous enough to offer his own sticks for these two guys to try and review. This is not a revolving thread although Dan may do this again in the future.

FriendlyMan 07-12-2012 12:24 PM

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Oh, thanks for clearing that up.

DBall 07-12-2012 12:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FriendlyMan (Post 1678363)
If I may ask how exactly dose this work? If I say I'm in the next person responding gets 5 sticks from me? And do I need to guess which cigars they are? Or just review them?
Thanks.


Read the first post of the thread as that outlines how this works. This may or may not be the last one... I'm 100 cigars deep into these experiments thus far... :)

I always say it is the last and then do another one anyway... hahaha

363 07-12-2012 12:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DBall (Post 1678390)
I always say it is the last and then do another one anyway... hahaha

Well thanks for doing em, they are highly enjoyable to read! :tu

pnoon 07-12-2012 01:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DBall (Post 1678390)
Read the first post of the thread as that outlines how this works. This may or may not be the last one... I'm 100 cigars deep into these experiments thus far... :)

I always say it is the last and then do another one anyway... hahaha

You are to be commended for your efforts, Dan.

But there is no reason why someone else couldn't conduct the same type of taste test. One of the many ways to give back to the community (PIF).

:2

CigarNut 07-12-2012 01:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DBall (Post 1678390)
Read the first post of the thread as that outlines how this works. This may or may not be the last one... I'm 100 cigars deep into these experiments thus far... :)

I always say it is the last and then do another one anyway... hahaha

Quote:

Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 1678410)
You are to be commended for your efforts, Dan.

But there is no reason why someone else couldn't conduct the same type of taste test. One of the many ways to give back to the community (PIF).

:2

I want to offer my thanks as well -- these threads are something I look forward to!

DBall 07-12-2012 01:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 1678410)
You are to be commended for your efforts, Dan.

But there is no reason why someone else couldn't conduct the same type of taste test. One of the many ways to give back to the community (PIF).

:2

I agree... people have asked if they could use the same format and stuff and I'm totally fine with that.

As for why I keep doing it, I really like to see these things and experience the cigars through the eyes of the newer members. It's also a good way for me, personally, to pay it forward/back/wherever... it was the kindness of others (most of whom are on this board or were on CS) that made cigars so much more than a hobby and so much more about the people than the cigars themselves... :tu


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