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Just got done adding one of my vino's and I love the program. Was wondering why there is no month for CC cigars. I just entered it into the box code but think I'd like to have a month and year box. As for picking out the cigars I like the cleaner look on the left. Also where do I put my clear havana's? They are cuban and non cuban. :r

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Put them in a box and mail them to me. ;)

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From the Cuban/Non-Cuban page, simply click the add button and add a new cigar. You'll have the opportunity to add a new brand to it. Any cigar in the reference section that has a unique brand will cause that brand to show up in the brand list. Nothing special about brand :)

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Oh cool. For some reason I have over looked that I could add a new brand.

I am currently looking at the J. Fuego, it has one so far, the Corojo #1. I have the Corojo #5 I added it the the J. Fuego page. What I would like, instead of backing up to the cigar list, it would be nice to have an add button on the J. Fuego page. There is an edit button that allows me to delete the cigars on the J. Fuego page.

Did that make any sense?

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yes, and that's done for the next beta release. If you look at the screenshots I posted earlier today, you'll see there is now a toolbar at the bottom of the page with "Add Cigar". This will make it much easier to complete a list of cigars for a particular brand. Is that what you mean?

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Ah! That will work.

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I like the one on the right. It eliminates one movement in the app with one screen.

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I like the one on the right

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My vote goes to the one on the right & I don't even have an iPhone :D

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one on the right is cool :tu

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This is too cool.
Can't believe I didn't see this thread until now.
Can't wait for the application to become available.

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Ken do you think you will submit the app to apple this week? I cant wait to try it on my iphone. Best of luck with the process.

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Idea for how to connect w/ cigar asylum:

In the notes area perhaps making a button to "publish review" and have it make a new thread in the review section here at CA. Only problem that I can think of is for people who purchase the app not a member at CA....although maybe it would draw in new members?

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I sure hope so. Two major things keeping me from finishing:

• Really need to improve the NC coverage in the database
• You guys keep giving me more ideas of things to add ;)

Expect to get beta 3 out for final testing in the next day or so, and plan to submit to apple by end of this week :tu

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Something else added new for beta 3...

Since it now shows length and ring gauge on the cigar listing screen, you can now sort by name, length or ring gauge. It looks like this. The second screenshot show the interface that slides up onto the screen when you touch the "Sort List ..." button.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/k...ke/Teaser4.png http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/k...ke/Teaser5.png

And here's the updated listing:

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/k...ke/Teaser6.png

Just thought I'd let you know :tu

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sweet! :tu

that add cigar button on the reference page is nice too

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Yes, obvious, since it's required. :)

There's no need to imply anything. I'm a WM user, and a cigar smoker. I have references on this board if I need them, though they probably don't know who I am right now heh. I think it'd be a cool thing to collaborate this project with someone to get it out there for the millions (yes, millions) who use Windows Mobile. I also think I'd use the heck out of it personally. Seems like a great app, that's all.

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Sorry if you thought I implied that you might steal it. I know Ken was just fooling around with this at one point and poof now he spends all his spare time coding! He was even going to code at our weekly herf meeting. My post was my opinion leaving it ultimately up to Ken to decide the when and if parts. :2

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danc,

No harm, no foul, and I don't blame you for asking. The reality is that somebody with knowledge of how to develop for Windows Mobile could quite easily borrow ideas from this app to code for wm. They could also fairly easily capture the data from this app if they had an iPhone or knew somebody who did.

The other reality is that the programming model for iPhone vs. Win Mobile is quite different, so it would be tough to actually leverage the code itself. That said, if a developer were to ask me about collaboration, it would be a low priority for me given the ideas I have to continue to develop the next version of Mobile Stogie, and I have a real job so this is just a (very time consuming) hobby for me. So they'd mostly be on their own.

I put a copyright notice on the app to protect myself, but I don't have a cadre of lawyers to pursue somebody copying it on the wm platform. I also wouldn't want to prevent fellow BOTL's from having a nice app for their wm devices if somebody took up that effort.

Bottom line is that it's tough to get too excited about a hypothetical situation. If somebody reaches out to me with real coding questions, I'd do what I could, but it probably wouldn't be much, given my time constraints.

Again, no harm, no foul :tu

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All good :)

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Need more feedback today :)

As I build out the NC database content, it is becoming clear that I need to add a "Sub-brand" or "Line" field for many of the NC brands. For example, if I add Gurkha to the current database, I would have a separate "brand" for Gurkha Grand Reserve, Gurkha Legend, Gurkha Master Select, etc.

I'm thinking of adding a Sub-Brand field so that the brand is Gurkha, and then have a drilldown from Gurkha to a page showing the sub-brands of Grand Reserve, Legend, Master Select, etc. The same is true of Rocky Patel, Oliva, JPG and others.

The trick will become handling the situation where there is NOT a sub-brand for a given brand, or where sub-brand is not filled in for SOME of a particular brand, but is filled in for others.

How should the drilldown work?
Thoughts anybody??

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Is there any way after the release for people to submit their cigar database (if they add things) to you to add to the main database for when you update?

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Not sure how the update process will work yet. I'm thinking of a synchronization process that allows somebody to retrieve updates automatically, but I haven't designed this yet. It would have to be "non-destructive" for cigars that somebody has entered into his/her own app, so some matching process needs to be designed. I'm working on it :)

As for sending their changes in, I think the concern about getting garbage data, incomplete data, overwriting existing cigars, even malicious updates will prevent this from being a reasonable approach.

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I guess yeah. Unless there was a way to filter it but even then might not be worth the hours to do it

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Ken

thanks for writing this program as its a great service to any CA member.

side note. any way to write an app so you can read CA easier on your Iphone?

www.m.cigarasylum.com :tu
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Asking the question in a simpler way: Do you consider Gurkha Grand Reserve, Gurkha Legend, Gurkha Master Select, etc. to be unique "Brands" (and therefore would count in the home screen count of "xxx Brands"), or do you consider those as all being "Gurkha" brand, and would only count once on that screen? I'm referring to this screen:
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/k...ke/Default.png

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No, they are all Gurkhas and should be under one brand with sub brands.

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I've just run across this thread.

Very slick, Ken...

Congrats for the all the hard work...

As much as I hate iToys... this may swing me over... :ss :ss

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Gurkha one brand and put the others in unique cigars

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Wow...can't wait for application to be available...really looks interesting and I'm upset that I didn't join here sooner.

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I agree, I would have Gurkha, with all the sub-brands below that.

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Yes, Gurkha then all the Gurkha sub brands under the main Gurkha listing, as they are all made by the same company.

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Seems to be a concensus. Not surprised, but just wanted to get a little feedback before changing things. What I've settled on is not to add another drilldown page for the subbrands, but rather just include them in the name of each cigar. The cigar listing screen will simply have some cigars with kinda long names, but I'll wrap the text appropriately. Early testing seems to show it will work fine.

Thanks everybody :tu

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I agree, no need to over complicate things. If someone really wants it that way, you do give them the options of adding more brands.

I had an interesting glitch the other day. The app got caught in a weird event, I was on a brand (I believe it was Cohiba CC) and as I tapped the back button, it turned the page, but I ended up on the same page. I tapped the back button several times, each time the page looked like it was changing, but it remained on the same page until the app closed out on its own. It has not happened since, I tried to see if it would happen again, but so far it has not happened again. I figured I would share.

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I have seen something similar one time as well, but cannot reproduce it. I have been optimizing some of the code to reduce the memory footprint, so hopefully it gets cleaned up by that work. If it happens again, especially if you can reproduce it, please let me know.

Thanks.

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Final update tonight:

• Code changes are largely done for beta 3.
• Added a Google button to the cigar detail page. Does a search for currently selected cigar.
• Added many, many new NC's (thanks Lee and Jon!). Total cigar count is up to 1,151 (and growing), getting better balance between CC and NC.

Will try to get a final beta release out to the testers tomorrow. I think it's still on track for end of week submission to Apple. :wo

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nice work.cant wait to get ti

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BETA 3 is ready, and heading out to the beta testers. I hope this is the final beta before release.

Changes from BETA 2:

• FIXED: Humidor names don't line up in certain circumstances
• IMPROVED: Cigars with long names now wrap to a second line instead of truncating with '...' added.
• ADDED: Ability to add new cigars from the list of cigars for a specific brand
• ADDED: Length and Ring Gauge on the Cigar Listing view
• ADDED: Sort button on Cigar Listing view (by Name, Length, Ring Gauge)
• ADDED: Google Button on the cigar detail page launches a browser with search for the selected cigar.(Do people think this is useful?)
• DATA: Additions to the cigar reference database
  (Total is now up to 1,161 unique cigars in the database)
• Good Progress: Continued data cleanup
• Good Progress: Code cleanup and memory optimization

REMAINING ITEMS BEFORE RELEASE:

• STILL WORKING ON: Adding an "All Humidors" view to the My Cigars section.
• Improvements to data entry to streamline the process

Probably work on for future version:

• Linking to other external info on the web (pricing, reviews, B&M's, etc)
• A field (or 2) to enter MSRP and/or price paid in the My Cigars section
• Ability to edit humidor name (workaround currently exists)
• A more robust "Smoking Notes" section of the App
• When viewing a "My Cigar" record, click a button to "Flip" to the details of that cigar. (moved to Version 2)
  (beta testers haven't asked for that yet, but they will :)).

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sounds good :tu

will get to play around w/ it in a few hours

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can't wait til this comes out :dr

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Nice job Ken. Cant wait!!!

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Database update: The Mobile Stogie database now has:

1,304 Unique Cigars
99 Brands
718 CC's
586 NC's

Last call for "gotta have it" brands. Speak now, or plan to enter them yourselves :)

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Nice progress Kenny! :tu

Can't wait to see it on your phone.

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Ken - Since putting beta 3 on my phone it keeps crashing, J/K. :r It is running smooth as can be. Sorry if these are dups, here is what I have. The sort feature is nice, but can a cancel button be added? Currently you have to select one of the options. I noticed you can't add a cigar brand to your humidor without putting in a quantity. Might be nice for the initial population purposes if you know you have a cigar but not the quantity, you could edit that later. the last thing is an edit option, where the only option is to actually delete it. From:my cigars, NC, Fuente Fuente Opusx(or any brand), list screen dbl robosto, churchill etc, the next screen, dbl robosto is listed, the edit option only allows you to delete it, if you go to the next/final screen you can edit the options, quantities etc. Next is the wish list, if you add a cigar, you can't see any details page, meaning: my cigars, wishlist, cc, Bolivar, Amado Seleccion E <end> should this end on the same page as the reference page where there are details on the cigar? Next is a feature request, if your in your wish list, how about an option to add that cigar to a humidor? Finally, a home button. If I'm knee deep in my cigars, and want to get back to my humidors/wishlist you currently have to back out. If you hit home, it takes me to the login screen, then if I click my cigars, I am back where I left.

Sorry for the long message, and if anything's not clear email or PM me and I can better explain.

thanks:wo

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I can help on this one! Hitting the section button will take you to the first screen of that section. For example, if you're in reference and you drill down to a cigar, hitting the reference button again will bring you back to the top. Works the same way for the My Cigars section.

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:tuyep, perfect! thanks for the heads up.

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Oh, the google button is Nice as well!

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Wonder how long apple will review this before releasing it. I am :dr over this app. Thanks for all the hard work Ken. :tu

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Cant wait for the app, this will be a fantastic app to have. Good job Ken