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floydpink 12-10-2011 08:33 AM

Re: What are you roasting today?
 
that's very close to the roast setting I use, except I always set to 1lb, D as you can always hit cool early but can't always add enough time to finish a roast if the 1/4 lb setting shuts down before the desired roast is finished. (safety setting allows 1.5 minutes to be added max once roast begins)

Just to add to the excitement, once you get dialed in on a roast, you'll try another blend that behaves differently.

Enjoy!

jonumberone 12-10-2011 08:49 AM

Re: What are you roasting today?
 
I roasted my second batch last night.
I roasted a 1/2 pound, since I all but used the first 1/4 I roasted

1/2,p3,D, start

I now fully understand the sounds of first crack and second.
Very distinct difference.
I also now understand what smoke is :r
What I thought was a lot of smoke from my first roast was nothing compared to last night, even with the range hood on!!
The hood did keep the smoke detectors from going off, so that's a plus.

Question:
The manual says to never roast 10 seconds past second crack.
Is this 10 seconds after the first sounds or 10 seconds after the sounds stop?

Thanks again!

BSB 12-10-2011 09:07 AM

Re: What are you roasting today?
 
Ethiopia DP Sidama Aleta Wondo, roasted to just FC. 2 batches in the FR. Tons of chaffe, not many quackers, roasted up nice. Looking forward to this one.

Mr B 12-10-2011 11:25 AM

Re: What are you roasting today?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jonumberone (Post 1498137)
I roasted my second batch last night.
I roasted a 1/2 pound, since I all but used the first 1/4 I roasted

1/2,p3,D, start

I now fully understand the sounds of first crack and second.
Very distinct difference.
I also now understand what smoke is :r
What I thought was a lot of smoke from my first roast was nothing compared to last night, even with the range hood on!!
The hood did keep the smoke detectors from going off, so that's a plus.

Question:
The manual says to never roast 10 seconds past second crack.
Is this 10 seconds after the first sounds or 10 seconds after the sounds stop?

Thanks again!

Remember to give the beans some time to rest. I leave them in trays for a few hours after cooling. Then I move them to bags but I do not zip the bag all the way closed. I leave them sit overnight, in the bag (slightly open) to allow gases to escape. The next day I extract the air, seal the bag and let them sit for at least 24 hours before using.
The darker the roast, the longer they should rest. Dark roasts like Vienna and French can take a good 3 days to settle into their own.

They mean 10 seconds after 2nd crack starts. Once 1st crack (loud popping) slows down, I get real close to the roaster and listen very carefully for 2nd crack to begin. Like mentioned before, 2nd crack is much quieter and sounds like Rice Krispies in milk. You will need to experiment how long into 2nd crack you prefer to roast. Litterally count. I know with my Air poppers, I like to go 15-20 seconds into 2nd crack. With my equipment, this gives me a good Full City + / Vienna, which I prefer.
Different beans will take different times. Different types of beans are different sizes and need different times too. This is a good reason to blend different beans after roasting instead of roasting them together.

You asked above if the handful of inconsistant beans were normal. Yes. Look at them before you raost. They are already different shades, some lighter than others. I imagine its because not all beans can be picked at the eaxct same ripness, leading to different shades.
If you can slow the roast down a bit, it might even out the shades a bit.

Take a look at this page https://www.sweetmarias.com/library/...e-degree-roast

This was very helpful to me when I first started out.

:cf2

floydpink 12-10-2011 05:13 PM

Re: What are you roasting today?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jonumberone (Post 1498137)
I roasted my second batch last night.
I roasted a 1/2 pound, since I all but used the first 1/4 I roasted

1/2,p3,D, start

I now fully understand the sounds of first crack and second.
Very distinct difference.
I also now understand what smoke is :r
What I thought was a lot of smoke from my first roast was nothing compared to last night, even with the range hood on!!
The hood did keep the smoke detectors from going off, so that's a plus.

Question:
The manual says to never roast 10 seconds past second crack.
Is this 10 seconds after the first sounds or 10 seconds after the sounds stop?Thanks again!

After they start. 10 seconds after they stop will be a fire and charcoal for beans

Blak Smyth 12-12-2011 08:15 AM

Re: What are you roasting today?
 
Just got my first bag of green beans from a friend:
Columbian Excelso

Savor the Stick 12-12-2011 11:11 AM

Re: What are you roasting today?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blak Smyth (Post 1497091)
Nice, after hearing that I went on their site and bought the sampler.
Shipped out the same day, can't wait.

I did some research on my roaster and it sounds like it is an okay unit. It is decent for indoors, the catalytic convertor is said to work well. The downside is it doesn't cool well. The review I read recommends taking the beans out and using a fan on them in a colander. They recommend a milder bean because there is a long time in between cracks, maybe too long. Well I will give it all a go and see what happens.

Hey Shane How I cool my beans is I use 2 hand held metal strainers and more the beans back and forth over a fan.....

BUT FIRST because the beans are still cooking even after they are out of the roaster- I sprits some distilled water on them to aid cooling, it brings the temp down quicker and evaporates (steam) very fast.

When the steam is gone and the beans are still HOT to the touch(but not burning the skin hot) I move to over the fan until cool to the touch.

I then spread them out for an hour in a large SS roasting pan, bag and leave unzipped for 18-24 hrs.


That's what I do---Just remember that after roasting you want to cool the beans down as quickly as possible. :tu

ashtonlady 12-12-2011 11:26 AM

Re: What are you roasting today?
 
I use 1lb, p-2 for Costa Rican. I agree. I would rather have a longer time then not enough.
How much diffrents do the Letters A,B,C,D make in your roast?

Blak Smyth 12-14-2011 05:53 AM

Re: What are you roasting today?
 
Well I tried my first roast last night and think I needed to roast longer.
Thoughts and advice please! I am thinking maybe I should have gone another minute.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7163/6...924d0ace88.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7031/6...65c4ca80c0.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7175/6...aa52dd5d70.jpg

floydpink 12-14-2011 08:19 AM

Re: What are you roasting today?
 
Totally up to you.

Looks like a lighter roast, maybe city, but many love it that way.

BSB 12-14-2011 10:30 AM

Re: What are you roasting today?
 
Roasting up a few pounds for present. Ethiopian, Colombian and my "special" blend :D
Then I'll do a couple small batches of Guatemala Retiro de Quisayal from Klatch.

Blak Smyth 12-15-2011 11:36 AM

Re: What are you roasting today?
 
Well I pressed my first batch I roasted up Tuesday and I definitley beleive it was way underdone. I will try again tonight maybe.

Savor the Stick 12-16-2011 01:51 PM

Re: What are you roasting today?
 
I just roasted up some Colombian Supremo, and next up is going to be Ethiopian YC.

I am liking my roaster very much, it a Freshroast SR 500, very fast, easy to get uniform color on beans, and I can do it right in my kitchen in 15 min...BUT...the batch size is not as large as I would like, I'm drinking more coffee with the new roaster, and I am a little concerned about the life of the unit.

Oh I WAS roasting on a SCCO (Stir Crazy Convection Oven) and I could do a lb at a time, but the roast color was not that uniform...and the machine didn't like getting as hot as I needed.

well there is neg's in all systems I guess.....any advice or opinions out there?

Maybe a Behmore (sp?) ?

Blak Smyth 12-25-2011 10:49 AM

Re: What are you roasting today?
 
I am gonna try my second roast today, haven't decided which bean. Maybe I'll do the same beans I did my first batch with so I can do a fair comparison. The wife gave me a bodum French press for Xmas, now I don't have to bring mine home from work every week. I love my wife.

deadrise 12-25-2011 11:29 AM

Re: What are you roasting today?
 
I got a 8.5 pound rib roast in the roaster does that count?

Blak Smyth 12-27-2011 06:13 AM

Re: What are you roasting today?
 
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7034/6...d93c08341f.jpg
My second roast attempt. I think it is better than my last one but still not as dark as I like it.

CigarSquid 12-27-2011 06:36 AM

Re: What are you roasting today?
 
My wife got me a roaster for Christmas.. I have some store bought beans to finish before I try my first roast.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y13...nR/roaster.jpg

Along with that, I got 2 pounds of Nicaragua and Sumatra Mandheling green coffee beans.

Blak Smyth 12-27-2011 06:48 AM

Re: What are you roasting today?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garryyjr (Post 1513559)
My wife got me a roaster for Christmas.. I have some store bought beans to finish before I try my first roast.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y13...nR/roaster.jpg

Along with that, I got 2 pounds of Nicaragua and Sumatra Mandheling green coffee beans.

That's the one I am using. Make sure you watch some youtube vids before using it. The factory setting is 20 on the screen but I am finding I must go much longer than that. The image above was set at 26.
The last 5 minutes is a cool down mode so the time you set is actually 5 minutes less. This unit requires much more time to roast than most others.

You can add or subtract minutes during roast but if you let it hit the 5 minute mark it will jump into cool down mode and then it is too late to add another minute.

CigarSquid 12-27-2011 06:50 AM

Re: What are you roasting today?
 
humm.. I do like mine dark. I will have to research this one more before I use it and make sure it is one I want then.

Thanks for the heads up.

Blak Smyth 12-27-2011 06:53 AM

Re: What are you roasting today?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garryyjr (Post 1513565)
humm.. I do like mine dark. I will have to research this one more before I use it and make sure it is one I want then.

Thanks for the heads up.

I think it will get them dark, it just takes some time. If you use less beans they will get darker quicker. You will see the glass has two levels on it, the dark roast and the full line. Mine was at the full line.
Watching the youtuvbe videos it seems people have all different times that work for their roaster, so I think it requires some playing aorund with.
I would suggest setting it for 25 and watching it closely. If it hits 6 minutes remaining and is still too light in color hit another minute and repeat until it is the darkness you prefer. It always comes out lighter than it looks in the roaster IMO. If it gets dark enough sooner just hit the cool down button when ready.

CigarSquid 12-27-2011 07:09 AM

Re: What are you roasting today?
 
I will for sure watch some videos and see about it while I am finishing the store bought coffee I have.

MarkinAZ 12-27-2011 09:01 AM

Re: What are you roasting today?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garryyjr (Post 1513559)
My wife got me a roaster for Christmas...

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y13...nR/roaster.jpg

That's a nice looking roaster Garry and very popular one too. Looks like you're gonna have a lotta fun roasting coffee beans in 2012. A bump for the wife:tu


CigarSquid 12-27-2011 09:09 AM

Re: What are you roasting today?
 
Looking forward to it. Little nervous for the first roast...

novasurf 12-27-2011 12:21 PM

Re: What are you roasting today?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garryyjr (Post 1513632)
Looking forward to it. Little nervous for the first roast...

You have to be brave. :D

novasurf 12-27-2011 12:22 PM

Re: What are you roasting today?
 
Negrita....a lot of it.

Garbandz 12-27-2011 03:32 PM

Re: What are you roasting today?
 
Malabar,Maui,and some Sidamo..........
I tried roasting a blend that turned out wonderfully, Rwanda and Honduras, to full city.I call it Rwanduras,makes a lovely espresso,and is stellar in a drip unit.Rich, full low notes,nutty middle flavors,silky body and lingering finish...........Toss in some Antigua for a citrus snap.........

CigarSquid 12-31-2011 09:33 AM

Re: What are you roasting today?
 
What do you store the roasted beans in?

Blak Smyth 12-31-2011 05:23 PM

Re: What are you roasting today?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garryyjr (Post 1516769)
What do you store the roasted beans in?

I put them into a zip lock freezer bag. I leave the bag open for 24 hours then seal it up.

Also I finally got my roaster working better. I had to only fill it up to the dark roast line and I run it for 27 minutes total including cool down. Time may vary on each unit and each type of bean.

Blak Smyth 12-31-2011 05:26 PM

Re: What are you roasting today?
 
Today I'm roasting:
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/...s/b75bd9d9.jpg
The results:
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/...s/eb5d812f.jpg

Savor the Stick 12-31-2011 05:36 PM

Re: What are you roasting today?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blak Smyth (Post 1517139)

That's looking pretty good. Let us know how it brews up.:tu

Blak Smyth 12-31-2011 05:45 PM

Re: What are you roasting today?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Savor the Stick (Post 1517145)
That's looking pretty good. Let us know how it brews up.:tu

Will do. It looks darker in person than in the pic. I'm really looking forward to it. If it is good you'll be receiving a little sample!!!

CigarSquid 01-01-2012 06:11 PM

Re: What are you roasting today?
 
First roast ever and in the new roaster.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y13...e/IMAG0146.jpg
Package says, Sumatra Mandheling Triple Pick Select.

Also, enjoying a Diesel Shorty for the first time as well. Fat little sucker.

Blak Smyth 01-01-2012 11:31 PM

Re: What are you roasting today?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garryyjr (Post 1517842)
First roast ever and in the new roaster.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y13...e/IMAG0146.jpg
Package says, Sumatra Mandheling Triple Pick Select.

Also, enjoying a Diesel Shorty for the first time as well. Fat little sucker.

What setting did you do and how did it turn out?

CigarSquid 01-01-2012 11:33 PM

Re: What are you roasting today?
 
I did it for 35, so 30 of roasting. Doesn't seem to look as dark as I like it. I will try it tomorrow morning. See how it taste.

CigarSquid 01-02-2012 08:46 AM

Re: What are you roasting today?
 
Can you roast beans that have already been roasted?

Mr B 01-02-2012 09:47 AM

Re: What are you roasting today?
 
Yesterday was:
El Salvador Montanita Pacamara to City +
Guatamala Bourbon Finca San Diego Buena Vista to Full City
Rwanda Kibuye Gites to Full City +
and Sumatra Tarbarita Peaberry to Full City +

Blak Smyth 01-03-2012 11:16 AM

Re: What are you roasting today?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garryyjr (Post 1518020)
I did it for 35, so 30 of roasting. Doesn't seem to look as dark as I like it. I will try it tomorrow morning. See how it taste.

I don't think you can reroast. If it isn't dark enough for you, try less beans on your next roast.

BSB 01-03-2012 11:33 AM

Re: What are you roasting today?
 
Roasted some Bolivia Beneficio Buenaventura yesterday to city+ - FC

CigarSquid 01-03-2012 01:07 PM

Re: What are you roasting today?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blak Smyth (Post 1519081)
I don't think you can reroast. If it isn't dark enough for you, try less beans on your next roast.

I will do some more tonight. Any advice on back to back roasting? Should I give the machine a cool down in between? or 2 roast back to back good enough?

Blak Smyth 01-03-2012 02:08 PM

Re: What are you roasting today?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garryyjr (Post 1519179)
I will do some more tonight. Any advice on back to back roasting? Should I give the machine a cool down in between? or 2 roast back to back good enough?

I haven't done any back to back without cleaning it first. My machine leaves so much chaff behind I don't wanna use it again without cleaning it first. When I remove my chamber there is much chaff down on the heating element it may very well be a fire hazard to run back to back.

Mr B 01-03-2012 04:22 PM

Re: What are you roasting today?
 
Hey Garry, use those lighter beans to blend in w/ your darker roasts. I do it all the time. Put 10-20% of the lighter beans in w/ 80-90% darker beans in the grinder. Its a nice way to add back in some of the Fruity, Berry, Citrus, floral notes that get roasted away in the darker roasts.

CigarSquid 01-03-2012 06:20 PM

Re: What are you roasting today?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr B (Post 1519362)
Hey Garry, use those lighter beans to blend in w/ your darker roasts. I do it all the time. Put 10-20% of the lighter beans in w/ 80-90% darker beans in the grinder. Its a nice way to add back in some of the Fruity, Berry, Citrus, floral notes that get roasted away in the darker roasts.

I have no light left, Used the rest this AM. But, I shall do.

CigarSquid 01-03-2012 08:53 PM

Re: What are you roasting today?
 
Roasted the same stuff again tonight. Looks darker this time. Try it tomorrow or so..

Blak Smyth 01-04-2012 05:11 AM

Re: What are you roasting today?
 
Well I had a good comment from SteelCityBoy about my last roast, maybe it is starting to come together. I have not been happy with it yet though.

SteelCityBoy 01-04-2012 08:30 AM

Re: What are you roasting today?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blak Smyth (Post 1519761)
Well I had a good comment from SteelCityBoy about my last roast, maybe it is starting to come together. I have not been happy with it yet though.

I am no coffee expert for sure but I drink plenty of it and I can tell you that your roast sample you gave me was very good! Here is the best description I can offer:

I used a coffee press on the first bit I brewed last evening. It was very dark almost tar-like. Very velvety and smooth texture. Not bitter at all. Had a great smooth flavor profile that just tasted great! I would love to try some of this with an LP9! :dr

I thought it was very well done Shane! Take it for what it is worth though as this is the first time I have ever tried home made coffee roast.

Blak Smyth 01-04-2012 08:33 AM

Re: What are you roasting today?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SteelCityBoy (Post 1519903)
I am no coffee expert for sure but I drink plenty of it and I can tell you that your roast sample you gave me was very good! Here is the best description I can offer:

I used a coffee press on the first bit I brewed last evening. It was very dark almost tar-like. Very velvety and smooth texture. Not bitter at all. Had a great smooth flavor profile that just tasted great! I would love to try some of this with an LP9! :dr

I thought it was very well done Shane! Take it for what it is worth though as this is the first time I have ever tried home made coffee roast.

:tu Thanks for the review!

CigarSquid 01-07-2012 01:47 PM

Re: What are you roasting today?
 
Roasted some Nicaragua... stuff. I guess I roasted to a French Roast.. (Dark)

House smells so good.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y13...e/IMAG0151.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y13...e/IMAG0154.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y13...e/IMAG0153.jpg

Sorry for the pics, Taken with phone.

Blak Smyth 01-07-2012 01:51 PM

Re: What are you roasting today?
 
Garry what settings did you use on that French roast?

Tonight I'm making a couple batches:
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/...s/db5a6118.jpg

CigarSquid 01-07-2012 01:52 PM

Re: What are you roasting today?
 
I think total roast time was 23-25. Filled to right about even with the dark line or slight below.

Blak Smyth 01-07-2012 01:56 PM

Re: What are you roasting today?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garryyjr (Post 1523769)
I think total roast time was 23-25. Filled to right about even with the dark line or slight below.

Damn you got that dark. Maybe because I bought my roaster used but I fill to the dark line everytime now and set it for 30 and it never gets that dark. Maybe My roaster is tired.


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