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ade06 09-28-2009 01:00 PM

Re: Wristwatch collectors out there?
 
All of the Bombay Trading Company's in my area (D.C., MD, DE and PA) have gone out of business too.

s15driftking 09-28-2009 01:09 PM

Re: Wristwatch collectors out there?
 
I'd like to introduce two cool things to those who want to learn about them... the tourbillon and the minute repeater...


Tourbillon...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vj2Ia0KWxN0


WHAT IS A TOURBILLON
When it comes to time, accuracy is everything. Nobody’s going to take a watchmaker who can’t tick the talk. The gravity of the situation was not lost on the watchmakers of past who realised that the pull of Newton’s forces did have an effect on the performance of their timepieces. In the normal course of use, a watch goes through a variety of positions as your arm swings. This is great for the automatic movement. However, with the pocket watch, it tends to be kept in a vertical position, and we all know how gravity loves to play with that. The result is small changes to the accuracy of the timepiece.

In the beginning
Many may just brush it off as trivial, but others are bothered by it to the extent it’s more than dust in the eye. For instance, back in the 18th century, sailors’ lives depended on the accuracy of their ship’s deck watch or marine chronometer. Ingeniously, it was Abraham-Louis Breguet, ticked off enough about the fact that he was losing time this way, who decided to bridge the problem in 1795 by inventing the régulateur à tourbillon.

The tourbillon (whirlwind) device has the escapement parts in a mobile cage that rotates in one direction, driven by a fixed wheel. This eliminates the effects of gravity on the balance wheel movement, and restores accuracy to the timepiece.

Piece de resistence
The tourbillon, patented by Breguet in 1801, is one of those complications that many watch manufacturers strive to produce as a piece de resistance of their collection. Others wonder why they bother since it doesn’t seem to serve a practical purpose. The main reason for this dissenting perspective is the difficult nature of their creation and the resulting high cost. Extremely precise mechanical tolerances are called into play – not too much weight, nor friction, or the entire system could wind up just looking pretty on your wrist while you seek the time elsewhere.

Marrying art and craft was Constant Girard-Perregaux’s aim as he created the Tourbillon Sous Trois Points d’Or, in 1867. The three-bridge design he invented for his pocket chronometer has been copied since, eventually finding its way onto wrists in 1991.

Mechanical marvels
The difficulty of manufacturing chronometer tourbillons fostered more innovative thinking, and Bahne Bonniksen, a Danish immigrant to England, came up with the karrusel (derived from carrousel). Patented by him in 1892, the karrusel has a movement that rotates at a slower rate than the chronometer tourbillon, but is more robust.

In the 1920s, Alfred Helwig, the Glashutte master watchmaker, invented the flying tourbillon regulator, which is pivot mounted on one side with no supporting bridge.

The arrival of the wristwatch resulted in watchmakers trying to find ways of miniaturising this already complicated movement. In 1930, the tourbillon regulator made its appearance in a wristwatch. Not too many tourbillons are in existence, and the quartz oscillator put an end to these mechanical marvels in the late ’60s. But the rebirth of mechanical watches has seen several companies taking up the miniaturisation process all over again.

Creative Applications
F.P. Journe’s Souverain Tourbillon is one of the more creative applications, while Blancpain seems to focus intensively on using these technical marvels. Omega has a self-winding Central Tourbillon which is produced in limited quantities, and has the movement as the centrepiece, while Patek Philippe swings in the other direction with its Sky Moon Tourbillon which has 12 complications and uses both
sides of the watch.

Whether it’s just a case of one-upmanship or practicality, the tourbillon is still an integral part of watchmaking and still causing a whirlwind of activity.

and........

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourbillon

s15driftking 09-28-2009 01:13 PM

Re: Wristwatch collectors out there?
 
and the minute repeater....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cB8ftBRJGM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfhma...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9S89...eature=related


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repeater_(horology)

http://www.timezone.com/library/rdnotebook/200408292930

ratpack 09-29-2009 06:16 AM

Re: Wristwatch collectors out there?
 
Just buy one of those little babies they had recently in CA. $32,000 for a watch! That's an everyday wear.

rizzle 09-29-2009 09:58 AM

Re: Wristwatch collectors out there?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ucubed (Post 568390)
I have the same one gifted to me by my friend's father

I need to find some friends like that.;) I thought I noticed the green bezel on your wrist in a picture posted not too long ago.
:tu

gettysburgfreak 09-29-2009 02:44 PM

Re: Wristwatch collectors out there?
 
After I hopefully complete the academy, I am going to buy this as a present

http://www.jorggray.com/jg6500nc-rose.html

longknocker 09-29-2009 04:25 PM

Re: Wristwatch collectors out there?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gettysburgfreak (Post 573537)
After I hopefully complete the academy, I am going to buy this as a present

http://www.jorggray.com/jg6500nc-rose.html

Nice Looking Watch! You Deserve It!:tu

s15driftking 09-29-2009 06:35 PM

Re: Wristwatch collectors out there?
 
Breitling ****, just picked it up.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...cture009-2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...cture003-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...cture021-2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...cture022-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...cture025-1.jpg

s15driftking 10-10-2009 07:01 AM

Re: Wristwatch collectors out there?
 
a couple more of my watches

Triumph 46mm, ETA movement

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Picture037.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Picture035.jpg


Michael Kors, MK8075

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Picture046.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Picture043.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Picture042.jpg

Veritas 10-10-2009 09:49 AM

Re: Wristwatch collectors out there?
 
I love watches, but my wallet won't support my habit. My current daily wear is a Tag Aquaracer. I get quite a bit of wear from my Luminox F-16 Series also. Others that spend more time in the box than on my wrist include a Movado Museum Series, a Tiffany, a titanium Seiko chronograph and several Tommy Bahama casuals. The only Rolex in the house is on the wife's wrist; they are too heavy for my taste.

I really like the looks of the Oris in Larry's post. Which collection is that from?

larryinlc 10-10-2009 10:48 AM

Re: Wristwatch collectors out there?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by G.Elrod (Post 593574)

I really like the looks of the Oris in Larry's post. Which collection is that from?

it's an Oris BC3 Big Crown. I bought it new for 450.00 40mm diameter

Larry

Veritas 10-10-2009 11:16 AM

Re: Wristwatch collectors out there?
 
Thanks. I'm going to look for one of these when I get back to the States.

gettysburgfreak 10-11-2009 07:04 PM

Re: Wristwatch collectors out there?
 
I really like the look of this but I'm not so sure about the rubber band, I am a leather band kinda guy

http://www.amazon.com/Bulova-Marine-...=13GP37GAS9LPY

Veritas 10-12-2009 02:44 AM

Re: Wristwatch collectors out there?
 
I have three watches with rubber straps - a Tag, a Luminox, and a Lacoste GMT. I like them for different reasons than leather. I don't consider any of these to be dress watches. For that application, leather straps (or metal bracelets) are preferred. For day to day wear, I really like the rubber strap. In fact, I bought my Tag with a stainless bracelet and replaced that with the rubber strap.

I guess they aren't for everyone. I don't like the heavy weight of a Rolex while others do. That's why there are so many watches (like cigars) - so we can all have our favorites.
:ss

BlackDog 10-12-2009 10:35 AM

Re: Wristwatch collectors out there?
 
Not really a collector, but I do enjoy watches. I wear a Seiko "Pepsi Diver" and an Omega Constellation.

s15driftking 10-12-2009 10:55 AM

Re: Wristwatch collectors out there?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by G.Elrod (Post 595825)
I don't like the heavy weight of a Rolex while others do.

I love heavy bulky watches. Although, there are some that are bulky withotu being heavy (titanium).

gettysburgfreak 10-12-2009 12:25 PM

Re: Wristwatch collectors out there?
 
I like heavy watches as well

s15driftking 10-12-2009 02:34 PM

Re: Wristwatch collectors out there?
 
for those who like clunky-but-not-heavy....

try one fo these:

http://www.bernardwatch.com/Corum/Ad...on-48mm/COR267

TheRiddick 10-14-2009 02:55 PM

Re: Wristwatch collectors out there?
 
Hate to say it, but this is a fake. Not a Brietling band, the main seconds hand has no Breitling B on the short end of it, bezel is defintely not a typical trademark Breitling style, the knobs are not trademark Breitling flairs, a number of other fake elements...





s15driftking 10-14-2009 04:07 PM

Re: Wristwatch collectors out there?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRiddick (Post 599833)
Hate to say it, but this is a fake. Not a Brietling band, the main seconds hand has no Breitling B on the short end of it, bezel is defintely not a typical trademark Breitling style, the knobs are not trademark Breitling flairs, a number of other fake elements...

1. The bracelet (or band as you call it) is a ProII
2. I've never seen the "B" on the main seconds hand of a Breitling super avenger, Only Breitling for Bentley motors watches
3. BEZEL is the correct bezel.... for a Super avenger, are you thinking of the Breitling for bentley 6.75
4. The "knobs" as you called them are technicallly called "pushers" and they are legit, as is the whole watch
5. Please tell me the "number of other fake elements" as you put it.

would you like to see the 4,000 dollar proof of sale from the legit local authorized dealer i bought it from? would that convince you? or do you want to bust my balls some more?

you should do some research and get your facts straight before you tell me that my watch is fake.


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