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44stampede 01-18-2012 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jluck (Post 1534561)
You could just pass them on to fellow BOTL's that would find any means to smoke the "real deal". :D

Forrest (golfnut) sells very nice draw tools, well worth the cost to smoke them CC's

Just tossed them all this morn. The taste was just too off to enjoy even if I could get a good draw.

The one one dipped in water and put in the fridge looked horrible. I didn't even light it up.

coty 01-18-2012 10:38 PM

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I recently found a hookas tool that works really well for a draw pull. It is almost 6 inches long and is quite this so it will even work on a lancero. Might be worth trying if you have anywhere that sells hookas near by only cost me a buck. it's used to clean unclogg the steam of a hooka.

coty 01-18-2012 10:49 PM

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it looks like this http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/pictur...pictureid=6629

coty 01-18-2012 10:49 PM

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it looks like this but longer needle http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/pictur...pictureid=6629

T.G 01-19-2012 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by 44stampede (Post 1534567)
The one one dipped in water and put in the fridge looked horrible. I didn't even light it up.

Good for you, you probably saved yourself a world of disappointment.

But I have to ask...

Where in the world did you hear to do something silly like that in the first place?

Why would you even expect that dipping a bunch of very tightly bound wrinkled up dead leaves in water would cause them to magically shift positions for a miraculous draw?

At best it won't change anything because nothing has been done to resolve the source of the problem, which is either too much or poorly placed tobacco. Wetting and drying will do nothing to alleviate this.

44stampede 01-19-2012 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by T.G (Post 1534662)
Good for you, you probably saved yourself a world of disappointment.

But I have to ask...

Where in the world did you hear to do something silly like that in the first place?

Why would you even expect that dipping a bunch of very tightly bound wrinkled up dead leaves in water would cause them to magically shift positions for a miraculous draw?

At best it won't change anything because nothing has been done to resolve the source of the problem, which is either too much or poorly placed tobacco. Wetting and drying will do nothing to alleviate this.

Another BOTL suggested. Seemed to me as well that it wasn't even touching the problem. Maybe it was a joke and I fell for it. Who knows? I had nothing to lose as I was about to chuck them anyway so what the hey

CigarNut 01-19-2012 07:49 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by T.G (Post 1534662)
Good for you, you probably saved yourself a world of disappointment.

But I have to ask...

Where in the world did you hear to do something silly like that in the first place?

Why would you even expect that dipping a bunch of very tightly bound wrinkled up dead leaves in water would cause them to magically shift positions for a miraculous draw?

At best it won't change anything because nothing has been done to resolve the source of the problem, which is either too much or poorly placed tobacco. Wetting and drying will do nothing to alleviate this.

A few posts back in this same thread (http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showpo...postcount=1728).

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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol (Post 1527163)
I have not tried, but has been said it works from good source...

Soak cigar in cold water for a few seconds. Put immediately in fridge for about a week. The point is to prevent mold & ammonia; fridge takes out the water pretty well. Once completely dry, put in humidor and wait a few weeks until humid and normalized.

Figure, if the cigars are known to be tight, what is the risk? Would love to hear if anybody has tried this.


T.G 01-19-2012 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by 44stampede (Post 1534666)
Another BOTL suggested. Seemed to me as well that it wasn't even touching the problem. Maybe it was a joke and I fell for it. Who knows? I had nothing to lose as I was about to chuck them anyway so what the hey

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Originally Posted by CigarNut (Post 1534788)
A few posts back in this same thread (http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showpo...postcount=1728).

Ah, I see.

I don't think he pranked you.

So sorry about the bad advice you were given and that the valid advice on the draw tool which will actually move/displace and remove the excess tobacco that is causing the problem came too late.

jluck 01-19-2012 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by coty (Post 1534605)

Quote:

Originally Posted by coty (Post 1534606)
it looks like this but longer needle http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/pictur...pictureid=6629

Are you plying hard to get, coty?
http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/7...lesswopics.jpg

crazyirishman 01-23-2012 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by coty (Post 1528975)
Guitar string straight through the middle and a little in and out motion helps me. Don't use the ones with the brass on them I'm pretty sure they would tear smoething up. I think it's the lowest string on the guitar that I'm using(I don't play so I have no real Idea of which it is).

That actually sounds like fine advice.

Just don't use your palm as the counter pressure from the head, otherwise you're bound to need a trip to the store to buy bandaids. Grip it from the sides.

That probably sounds like a no-brainer, but I've seen intelligent people do dumber things...

kenstogie 01-24-2012 12:26 PM

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Guitar strings vary in diameter. I typically use "11's" on my acoustic. The lowest sounding string is called the "E" string and has ridges which I think would help with some airflow for a plugged cigar.

smitty81 02-07-2012 10:14 AM

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Any tips to keep a cigar tasting fresh if you have to put it out for a while?

Like if you have to go and do something and your not done with it.

Usually after you leave them sit for a few minutes, they taste nasty when you relight.

Remo 02-07-2012 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by smitty81 (Post 1552069)
Any tips to keep a cigar tasting fresh if you have to put it out for a while?

Like if you have to go and do something and your not done with it.

Usually after you leave them sit for a few minutes, they taste nasty when you relight.

Cut it off and purge it (blow out through it) won't be great when relit but it will work.

ChicagoWhiteSox 02-07-2012 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by smitty81 (Post 1552069)
Any tips to keep a cigar tasting fresh if you have to put it out for a while?

Like if you have to go and do something and your not done with it.

Usually after you leave them sit for a few minutes, they taste nasty when you relight.

Purge before you leave.. Then purge again when you return to your cigar. Should be fine if you aren't away for too long.

smitty81 02-07-2012 10:39 AM

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when you purge, do you purge while its lit or when its out or does it matter?

Islayphile 02-07-2012 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by smitty81 (Post 1552100)
when you purge, do you purge while its lit or when its out or does it matter?

I'd do both

Purge right before you snip then purge again after

It can't hurt and certainly may help

trendo 02-09-2012 12:33 AM

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As long as your cutter is sharp, just purge then clip. Just dont try to put it back into your humidor:)

fencefixer 02-09-2012 07:37 PM

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I just ran into this (I've never shipped cigars before) so I figured I'd share, when printing shipping labels on USPS.com it'll say:


* I agree that I will present any items that are liquid, perishable or potentially hazardous to a postal employee for acceptance and that all fragile items are properly packaged. Any item containing cigarettes or smokeless tobacco must be presented to a Postal Service employee at a Retail Post Office location for proper acceptance. See DMM601.11.6.1a



I usually account for people's ignorance (thinking cigarettes count as cigars, etc.) however this does NOT apply towards cigars so it should be taken literally. Just print it and you're good to go!

chippewastud79 02-09-2012 09:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fencefixer (Post 1554431)
I just ran into this (I've never shipped cigars before) so I figured I'd share, when printing shipping labels on USPS.com it'll say:


* I agree that I will present any items that are liquid, perishable or potentially hazardous to a postal employee for acceptance and that all fragile items are properly packaged. Any item containing cigarettes or smokeless tobacco must be presented to a Postal Service employee at a Retail Post Office location for proper acceptance. See DMM601.11.6.1a



I usually account for people's ignorance (thinking cigarettes count as cigars, etc.) however this does NOT apply towards cigars so it should be taken literally. Just print it and you're good to go!

Or just answer 'No' to all their questions, never had an issue. :tu

CigarNut 02-10-2012 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by chippewastud79 (Post 1554535)
Or just answer 'No' to all their questions, never had an issue. :tu

:tpd:

fencefixer 02-12-2012 07:40 AM

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  1. Is it considered rude to cigar bomb a senior member without warning if you're a beginner?
  2. What's the best way to ship a bottle of beer and cigars in a flatrate box - lots of bubble wrap?
  3. When shipping cigars, is it OK for cigars to be "on route" in a shipping box for several days? (Won't they dry out?)
  4. Can cigar boxes be used as a humidor to some extent?

T.G 02-12-2012 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by fencefixer (Post 1556788)
  1. Is it considered rude to cigar bomb a senior member without warning if you're a beginner?
  2. What's the best way to ship a bottle of beer and cigars in a flatrate box - lots of bubble wrap?
  3. When shipping cigars, is it OK for cigars to be "on route" in a shipping box for several days? (Won't they dry out?)
  4. Can cigar boxes be used as a humidor to some extent?

1. No. Just bear in mind the rules here regarding the sharing of addresses.
http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showth...ring+addresses

2. Yup. The key is making sure nothing inside the box can move around at all. When they start moving around, the potential for damage goes up. Wrap each bottle individually, then place them in alternating directions across the bottom of the box, in other words, one bottle the cap points away from you, next it points towards you, then next one is away. Put the cigars in a small flat rate box and stick it inside the larger one (keeps the cigars from getting crushed). Use styrofoam blocks or better yet, more beer bottles, to wedge the Sm FLRB in place.

3. Sure. Just seal them in a ziploc bag and they will be fine for a week or two. Maybe longer depending on the time of year and what the box is exposed to.

4. Sometimes, but they often need minor modifications to make them seal well. Even the "humidor grade" cigar boxes can be hit and miss.

fencefixer 02-12-2012 06:54 PM

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Thanks Adam!

Another question.. My Treasure Dome uses lid mounted humidifiers. The magnets keep coming off, I used some spray glue to glue it back on but now it's falling off again. Any recommendations? I don't wanna try random stuff and have the odor linger in my humidor.

icehog3 02-12-2012 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by fencefixer (Post 1557349)
Thanks Adam!

Another question.. My Treasure Dome uses lid mounted humidifiers. The magnets keep coming off, I used some spray glue to glue it back on but now it's falling off again. Any recommendations? I don't wanna try random stuff and have the odor linger in my humidor.

Beads. ;)

fencefixer 02-12-2012 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1557368)
Beads. ;)

I will.. later. :P

icehog3 02-12-2012 08:03 PM

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Later. :P

fencefixer 02-14-2012 01:13 PM

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When you get cigar bombed, is a 'counter attack' towards the bomber common practice?

CigarNut 02-14-2012 01:22 PM

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Retaliation bombings occur, but I don't think that they exemplify the best of "bombing". But it does happen. A lot.

In the best cases a bomb is a surprise with no expection of anything other than a "Thanks" and the hope that you might bomb someone else in the future.

pnoon 02-14-2012 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by fencefixer (Post 1559851)
When you get cigar bombed, is a 'counter attack' towards the bomber common practice?

For some, it is common. Many feel it is better to pay it forward. I prefer the latter approach. Otherwise, it just amounts to an unplanned trade.
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icehog3 02-14-2012 02:14 PM

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I like anonymous bombs. Truly shows that it was a gift, with no return expected or desired.

Reaver2145 02-14-2012 02:27 PM

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How should i light a shaggy foot cigar ive only had one and i torched it but should i of cut the shaggyness off instead.

Bill86 02-14-2012 02:30 PM

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You can just light them as you would any other cigar.

I prefer to chop off the shaggy foot but that's just me.

croatan 02-14-2012 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaver2145 (Post 1559940)
How should i light a shaggy foot cigar ive only had one and i torched it but should i of cut the shaggyness off instead.

You can light them normally. I actually like the way cigars burn when you light the shaggy the foot.

Jefft72 02-14-2012 02:32 PM

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The only shaggy foot that I have smoked I lit foot like I would any other cigar, leaving all shaggieness in tact. I believe that was the intent with that style. If you cut the shag, then you would have a standard foot cigar.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaver2145 (Post 1559940)
How should i light a shaggy foot cigar ive only had one and i torched it but should i of cut the shaggyness off instead.


14holestogie 02-14-2012 02:43 PM

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Lighting the shaggy end also lets you see just how much the wrapper affects the taste when you finally hit it. :2

fencefixer 02-24-2012 02:11 AM

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I've seen zip lock bags with dividers for cigars, is there a way to DIY?

sevans105 02-24-2012 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by fencefixer (Post 1570529)
I've seen zip lock bags with dividers for cigars, is there a way to DIY?

Super glue and a very steady hand. Thats actually how they make them. They usually employ young children in third world countries. They have the small nimble fingers needed to do the gluing. Mortality rate is fairly high due to the toxic fumes from the glue. That's whyI refuse to use them. They are very convenient, but my conscience won't allow me to use them knowing that a young child may have died for my cigars.


Just kidding. I have no idea. I just buy them here when they do group buys.

Zeuceone 02-24-2012 02:47 AM

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if you have a plastic sealing machine you can diy

http://www.williseuropean.com/mediac...eat~sealer.jpg]

Fredo456 02-24-2012 06:23 PM

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I'm sure it's been covered already, but what is bombing?

Thanks.

chippewastud79 02-24-2012 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Fredo456 (Post 1571340)
I'm sure it's been covered already, but what is bombing?

Thanks.

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=2190

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=3914

markem 02-24-2012 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Fredo456 (Post 1571340)
I'm sure it's been covered already, but what is bombing?

What an excellent question! The original and core idea of bombing has sort of been lost at CA, but I will go with the original definition because that's really the spirit that drives all bombing.

Sometimes you notice that someone is being particularly helpful or is having a rough patch or even a good patch of luck or simply is someone on the board whom you have noted. You decide that you would like to send this person some cigars (or maybe something else or even a lot else!) and want to make it a surprise gift "just to make their day." That's called bombing. Often times, people will use the recipient's address as the "ship from" address to make it completely anonymous. This is sort of equivalent to walking up to someone at a herf and handing them a cigar and walking away.

It's about spreading sunshine without calling attention to yourself.

Doesn't quite work that way for many on CA these days, but the spirit is the same.

Note that people often have their addresses in the official CA Rolodex, which is maintained by Pnoon. There are some basic rules about getting access that are designed to thwart spammers. Look for the Rolodex sticky. It used to be much harder to get addresses, which was actually part of the fun.

fencefixer 02-24-2012 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Fredo456 (Post 1571340)
I'm sure it's been covered already, but what is bombing?

Thanks.

Feel free to give me your address, I'll mail you some literature on that topic. :r:r:r

T.G 02-24-2012 10:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by markem (Post 1571351)
What an excellent question! The original and core idea of bombing has sort of been lost at CA, but I will go with the original definition because that's really the spirit that drives all bombing.

Sometimes you notice that someone is being particularly helpful or is having a rough patch or even a good patch of luck or simply is someone on the board whom you have noted. You decide that you would like to send this person some cigars (or maybe something else or even a lot else!) and want to make it a surprise gift "just to make their day." That's called bombing. Often times, people will use the recipient's address as the "ship from" address to make it completely anonymous. This is sort of equivalent to walking up to someone at a herf and handing them a cigar and walking away.

It's about spreading sunshine without calling attention to yourself.

Doesn't quite work that way for many on CA these days, but the spirit is the same.

Note that people often have their addresses in the official CA Rolodex, which is maintained by Pnoon. There are some basic rules about getting access that are designed to thwart spammers. Look for the Rolodex sticky. It used to be much harder to get addresses, which was actually part of the fun.


Excellent post, Mark. Sums it up nicely.

And you're right, it seems like the sending a bomb for the benefit of the recipient to receive something they may enjoy has been mostly lost and it has become more of a "look at me" exercise by many.

Fredo456 02-25-2012 06:32 AM

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Why do most samplers from Famous include robusto cigars and hardly any longer ones? Are they cheaper to make, a new trend, or ...?

irratebass 02-25-2012 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1559919)
I like anonymous bombs. Truly shows that it was a gift, with no return expected or desired.

Unless of course, you're like me and leave the address UNDER the white paper that you weren't SUPPOSED to see lol *facepalm*

chippewastud79 02-25-2012 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Fredo456 (Post 1571600)
Why do most samplers from Famous include robusto cigars and hardly any longer ones? Are they cheaper to make, a new trend, or ...?

The most popular size of North American cigar smokers. :hm

icehog3 02-25-2012 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by irratebass (Post 1571611)
Unless of course, you're like me and leave the address UNDER the white paper that you weren't SUPPOSED to see lol *facepalm*

True dat, Mickey. :r

Fredo456 02-26-2012 02:19 PM

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What is the difference between body and flavor? I see reviews making a distinction between the two, i.e.: "full flavored and medium to full bodied".

T.G 02-26-2012 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Fredo456 (Post 1572534)
What is the difference between body and flavor? I see reviews making a distinction between the two, i.e.: "full flavored and medium to full bodied".

Body is how strong the cigar is (nicotine).

Flavor is the "intensity" of the flavor.

TJtorpedo 02-26-2012 06:26 PM

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At what low point does the RH start to really affect the flavor in a negative way? 50? 55? And how high can the RH get with a cigar? 80? 90?

Just seems like everyone has their preference between about 60-70, so just wondering what the extremes could theoretically be at either end of the spectrum.


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