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Zanaspus 01-09-2012 07:48 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by longknocker (Post 1525062)
The Faster You Smoke & Harder You Draw, The More Harshness You Get From Your Smokes. Smoke Slowly & Draw Easy!:) :tu
:tpd: Also, learn to snork. i.e. upon exhaling make sure to force some of the smoke through your nose. This is easy for a cigarette smoker but takes some practice for the uninitiated. CCs, this is a must on every exhale IMO. NCs try to do it at least occasionally. You'll discover flavors you never imagined. If it's your first time ever with an NC just be careful.

P.S. to stress the above I take a puff about once every 2 minutes on NCs.

RevSmoke 01-09-2012 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by coty (Post 1524957)
I have a question that has puzzled me that I couldn't find an answer to... Smoking speed vs flavor vs size vs cigar .
I have noticed that I get a different flavor from cigars with different draws i.e. a light slow longer draw seems to always reveal a sweeter smoke and a more cedar draw on cigars like pepin black labels; however , a shorter draw in time (drawing the same amount of smoke) tends to be less sweet and more spicy than cedar. This technique also brings different flavors in other cigars as well.
Is there any specific way that one needs to smoke specific types of cigars to obtain optimal flavor? For example should you smoke a robusto faster (in ratio of drawing not time) than a corna or lancero and would style matter such as you should smoke maduros faster than claros?
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Originally Posted by coty (Post 1524959)
And are any particular brands meant to be smoked faster (in draw ratio not time) than others?
Enjoy your cigar, it will let you know if you are smoking too fast, for it will get hot.

I do not know that it is the flavor that changes based upon the way you draw. However, it may be that you are playing closer attention to things when you draw slower.

coty 01-09-2012 07:24 PM
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Thank you everyone I do note that too hard and too fast are bad. Maybe it is in my head that the flavors change that much

44stampede 01-09-2012 07:54 PM
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Hey guys,

Seems to me that the "coolidors" don't have cedar lining for the most part. Is this important or not?

icehog3 01-09-2012 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by 44stampede (Post 1525864)
Hey guys,

Seems to me that the "coolidors" don't have cedar lining for the most part. Is this important or not?
Nice, but not necesssary at all.

pnoon 01-09-2012 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1525871)
Nice, but not necesssary at all.
:tpd:
I used coolers for a few years and just threw cedar spills (the cedar dividers in boxes) and a couple of cedar blocks. It's a bonus but Tom is correct. Not necessary.

coty 01-09-2012 08:17 PM
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So whats the real purpose of cedar in a humidor anyway? I can't imagine it adds flavor, it holds humidity at the rate of most wood, it doesn't make cigar multiply. Im not convinced that it has benefit

NCRadioMan 01-09-2012 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by coty (Post 1525898)
So whats the real purpose of cedar in a humidor anyway? I can't imagine it adds flavor, it holds humidity at the rate of most wood, it doesn't make cigar multiply. Im not convinced that it has benefit
It's very porous and absorbs and helps maintain humidity and it's a natural bug replant for many varmints. It can impart cedar flavors but not to the point of being unpleasant and we are all correct, it is not necessary. :)

44stampede 01-09-2012 09:32 PM
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Might be doing one as I am forced to do something due to my inability to control myself on Cbid. I might just bite the bullet and get on of these. Anybody have one that has advice?

http://www.edgestar.com/Koldfront-30..._Refrigerators

Bill86 01-09-2012 09:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 44stampede (Post 1525959)
Might be doing one as I am forced to do something due to my inability to control myself on Cbid. I might just bite the bullet and get on of these. Anybody have one that has advice?

http://www.edgestar.com/Koldfront-30..._Refrigerators
http://www.edgestar.com/EdgeStar-TWR..._Refrigerators

This is the one most people buy. Thermoelectric 28 bottle.

Pretty solid deal here right now. New shipped $180
http://www.compactappliance.com/Edge...efault,pd.html

44stampede 01-09-2012 11:29 PM
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Anyone know where to pick up decent priced Opus X? I am keen to try these as everyone raves about them but can't seem to find anything less than 26$/stick

icehog3 01-09-2012 11:35 PM
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Tampasweethearts.com .....You have to call and see what they have in stock, they usually don't list the Opus and Anejo on the site. They sell 'em for MSRP.

T.G 01-09-2012 11:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 44stampede (Post 1526034)
Anyone know where to pick up decent priced Opus X? I am keen to try these as everyone raves about them but can't seem to find anything less than 26$/stick
Most shops are typically sold out by now and you'll have to wait a few months for the next release, but when that happens, you can call Mark at Tower Cigars www.towercigars.com or try Tampa Sweethearts www.tampasweethearts.com, as both shops sell at MSRP.

44stampede 01-09-2012 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by T.G (Post 1526049)
Most shops are typically sold out by now and you'll have to wait a few months for the next release, but when that happens, you can call Mark at Tower Cigars www.towercigars.com or try Tampa Sweethearts www.tampasweethearts.com, as both shops sell at MSRP.
Thanks guys!

Why are they sold out now? New Years?

What is the ONE to try out of the Opus X?

T.G 01-09-2012 11:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 44stampede (Post 1526051)
Thanks guys!

Why are they sold out now? New Years?

What is the ONE to try out of the Opus X?

Because Fuente only releases a limited number of them per year, usually twice a year. Most shops only get 2-4 boxes. The late-year release is typically around early-mid November and usually the places offering them at MSRP sell out before the December holidays.

The ONE to try, hard to say, everyone is going to have their own opinion here, but I would say the "xXx" aka: Power Ranger, which is a short belicoso. It gives a good representation of the line without being overly "anything" and isn't so long a cigar that it bores you to tears.

44stampede 01-10-2012 12:06 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by T.G (Post 1526061)
Because Fuente only releases a limited number of them per year, usually twice a year. Most shops only get 2-4 boxes. The late-year release is typically around early-mid November and usually the places offering them at MSRP sell out before the December holidays.

The ONE to try, hard to say, everyone is going to have their own opinion here, but I would say the "xXx" aka: Power Ranger, which is a short belicoso. It gives a good representation of the line without being overly "anything" and isn't so long a cigar that it bores you to tears.
This is great info. Any idea on the second release date in the year? Cheers

T.G 01-10-2012 12:09 AM
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May-June from what I recall.

NCRadioMan 01-10-2012 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by 44stampede (Post 1526070)
This is great info. Any idea on the second release date in the year? Cheers
Opus is released once per quarter. First is around March-April, second around June, third around late September early October and the fourth in late November/early December.

aaron72 01-10-2012 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by 44stampede (Post 1526070)
This is great info. Any idea on the second release date in the year? Cheers
The triggers for release are for the Christmas season and for Fathers Day.

coty 01-10-2012 02:10 PM
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Just checked back on this thanks for ths cedar info. Got another question " is there a good way to sharpen a cheap cutter that has sentimental value?

14holestogie 01-10-2012 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by coty (Post 1526511)
Just checked back on this thanks for ths cedar info. Got another question " is there a good way to sharpen a cheap cutter that has sentimental value?
Not that I'm aware of. Save the sentimental cutter and buy a good one with a warranty (Palio or Xikar) to use. Never have to worry about a dull cutter again.

UpInSmoke 01-10-2012 02:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 44stampede (Post 1526051)
Thanks guys!

Why are they sold out now? New Years?

What is the ONE to try out of the Opus X?
My preferred size and seems some others as well is the Petite Lancero and the Fuente Fuente corona.:2

icehog3 01-10-2012 04:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aaron72 (Post 1526362)
The triggers for release are for the Christmas season and for Fathers Day.
Thought that was the Anejos....

coty 01-10-2012 06:20 PM
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Own one ( this one was from my wifes late uncle) but just seeing if some one knew something i didn't

44stampede 01-10-2012 08:33 PM
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Anyone have an idea how to help a cigar with poor draw? I have some cuban Romeo y Julieta gifted to me that they were going to toss due to being a couple years old and not properly stored. They are rehydrated but draw is like sucking mud through a straw...

icehog3 01-10-2012 09:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 44stampede (Post 1526763)
Anyone have an idea how to help a cigar with poor draw? I have some cuban Romeo y Julieta gifted to me that they were going to toss due to being a couple years old and not properly stored. They are rehydrated but draw is like sucking mud through a straw...
A couple of members here sell draw tools, they can help some of the time. Others clip the head and then put them back in the humi for an extended period of time. And then there are some that just can't be saved.

mosesbotbol 01-11-2012 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by 44stampede (Post 1526763)
Anyone have an idea how to help a cigar with poor draw? I have some cuban Romeo y Julieta gifted to me that they were going to toss due to being a couple years old and not properly stored. They are rehydrated but draw is like sucking mud through a straw...
I have not tried, but has been said it works from good source...

Soak cigar in cold water for a few seconds. Put immediately in fridge for about a week. The point is to prevent mold & ammonia; fridge takes out the water pretty well. Once completely dry, put in humidor and wait a few weeks until humid and normalized.

Figure, if the cigars are known to be tight, what is the risk? Would love to hear if anybody has tried this.

44stampede 01-11-2012 07:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mosesbotbol (Post 1527163)
I have not tried, but has been said it works from good source...

Soak cigar in cold water for a few seconds. Put immediately in fridge for about a week. The point is to prevent mold & ammonia; fridge takes out the water pretty well. Once completely dry, put in humidor and wait a few weeks until humid and normalized.

Figure, if the cigars are known to be tight, what is the risk? Would love to hear if anybody has tried this.
I'll give it a try and let you know!

coty 01-12-2012 11:35 PM
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Guitar string straight through the middle and a little in and out motion helps me. Don't use the ones with the brass on them I'm pretty sure they would tear smoething up. I think it's the lowest string on the guitar that I'm using(I don't play so I have no real Idea of which it is).

irratebass 01-13-2012 04:07 AM
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Originally Posted by coty (Post 1528975)
Guitar string straight through the middle and a little in and out motion helps me. Don't use the ones with the brass on them I'm pretty sure they would tear smoething up. I think it's the lowest string on the guitar that I'm using(I don't play so I have no real Idea of which it is).
That would be the high E string :tu

Bill86 01-13-2012 04:37 AM
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I've had the most luck lopping the entire cap off, going at it viciously with a draw poker and then dry boxing them for 12-24 hours.

If that doesn't work then it wasn't meant to be and I just chuck it.

Sometimes too I've looked for the knot in the cigar, hopefully it's at one of the ends, and lopped off that much. Might waste 20-25 minutes out of the cigar but it might also save the rest.

44stampede 01-13-2012 05:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill86 (Post 1529076)
I've had the most luck lopping the entire cap off, going at it viciously with a draw poker and then dry boxing them for 12-24 hours.

If that doesn't work then it wasn't meant to be and I just chuck it.

Sometimes too I've looked for the knot in the cigar, hopefully it's at one of the ends, and lopped off that much. Might waste 20-25 minutes out of the cigar but it might also save the rest.
It's just weird that it's everyone of this box. Starting to wonder if they are fakes...

44stampede 01-13-2012 05:22 AM
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That's "every one" not everyone.

Bill86 01-13-2012 05:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 44stampede (Post 1529089)
It's just weird that it's everyone of this box. Starting to wonder if they are fakes...
What year?

What vitola?

44stampede 01-14-2012 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Bill86 (Post 1529099)
What year?

What vitola?
petit corona '05

they look fantastic

44stampede 01-14-2012 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Bill86 (Post 1529099)
What year?

What vitola?
Tried one last night again and the draw was still horrible and so was the taste (the little that you could taste). It burns fantastic and by the looks of it, appears to be a quality cigar. Weird.

44stampede 01-14-2012 02:55 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mosesbotbol (Post 1527163)
I have not tried, but has been said it works from good source...

Soak cigar in cold water for a few seconds. Put immediately in fridge for about a week. The point is to prevent mold & ammonia; fridge takes out the water pretty well. Once completely dry, put in humidor and wait a few weeks until humid and normalized.

Figure, if the cigars are known to be tight, what is the risk? Would love to hear if anybody has tried this.
Have one in the fridge for the experiment. :)

44stampede 01-17-2012 02:09 AM
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How the heck do we upload photos?

I have a photobucket account now but can't figure it out!

Bill86 01-17-2012 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by 44stampede (Post 1532727)
How the heck do we upload photos?

I have a photobucket account now but can't figure it out!
Upload the pictures to photobucket. Grab the URL and press the image button

OR

Use image tags


[IMG]INSERT LINK HERE[/IMG]

Zeuceone 01-17-2012 02:11 AM
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or just copy the IMG link that photobucket gives you

44stampede 01-17-2012 02:12 AM
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http://photobucket.com/drbrettvn1

Here's hoping...

44stampede 01-17-2012 02:17 AM
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Got it I think

44stampede 01-17-2012 03:27 AM
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Found out I may get in crap for this one... sorry :( I don't know how to delete.

pnoon 01-17-2012 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by 44stampede (Post 1532744)
Found out I may get in crap for this one... sorry :( I don't know how to delete.
From who and why?

ysr_racer 01-18-2012 07:42 PM
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Leave cellophane on the box or no?

When I get singles, if it came with cellophane, I leave it on. But what about a box in a cooler or rubbermaid?

pnoon 01-18-2012 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ysr_racer (Post 1534434)
Leave cellophane on the box or no?

When I get singles, if it came with cellophane, I leave it on. But what about a box in a cooler or rubbermaid?
I would remove the cello if for no other reason than to inspect the contents.
Cello breathes. So it's really not an issue in that regard.

44stampede 01-18-2012 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 1534437)
I would remove the cello if for no other reason than to inspect the contents.
Cello breathes. So it's really not an issue in that regard.
Cello breathes?

nayslayer 01-18-2012 08:06 PM
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yeah, cello isn't plastic, put a wrapper in water and see what happens after a bit.

crazyirishman 01-18-2012 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 44stampede (Post 1534474)
Cello breathes?
Yes they do.

I got a creepy call from a tall stringed instrument once and it didn't say a word. It just breathed into the phone...

Terrible pun, sorry. But yes. Cellophane breathes to a certain extent. Not as much as naked sticks (no comment from the peanut gallery), but it's not entirely airtight I don't think.

But I'm probably wrong.

jluck 01-18-2012 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 44stampede (Post 1530215)
Have one in the fridge for the experiment. :)
You could just pass them on to fellow BOTL's that would find any means to smoke the "real deal". :D

Forrest (golfnut) sells very nice draw tools, well worth the cost to smoke them CC's


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