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elderboy02 08-13-2010 06:17 AM

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Remington 870 HD Shotgun
Glock 22 or 23 (22 for home protection only, 23 if you want to carry it as well)

Eleven 08-13-2010 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by RightAJ (Post 951274)
Hey shooters, what would be an affordable, home protection pistol? Don't need a DE or anything, but there have been a few burglaries in our neighborhood lately, and I figure y'all are the ones to ask about this...

aj

I'm no expert, but I bought this gun specifically for home protection. It was cheap enough, came with 2 clips and 2 more with a coupon. So I can now pump 60 rounds into the bad guys :)

Smith and Wesson M&P Sigma 9mm:

http://www.smith-wesson.com/wcsstore...0025_01_lg.jpg

SNKBYT 08-13-2010 07:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RightAJ (Post 951274)
Hey shooters, what would be an affordable, home protection pistol? Don't need a DE or anything, but there have been a few burglaries in our neighborhood lately, and I figure y'all are the ones to ask about this...aj

Quote:

Originally Posted by RightAJ (Post 951288)
I'm 20, 21 in January (when I can purchase a handgun), and I have little shooting experience.aj

nothing says home protection better than a pump shotgun loaded w/00 buck...
the racking noise of a pump should retreat most bad guys....if you have to shoot you don't have to worry as much about killing a neighbor as you would if shooting a high powered pistol :2

RightAJ 08-13-2010 07:34 AM

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Thanx for the input (and laughs) guys! :) Gonna look into the glocks, the S&W and maybe a shotgun, but we'll see.

aj

elderboy02 08-13-2010 07:43 AM

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If you are looking at S&W's, look at the M&P series. I have a M&P 9mm and it is one of the most accurate guns that I own.

Better yet, buy a shotgun, handgun, and an AR :tu

floydpink 08-13-2010 07:44 AM

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I agree with the shotgun for home defense, a Mossberg 500 specifically for easy moving around.

As far as handguns go, I am from the revolver school and believe that less is better.

If it jams, squeeze again.

With the nerves and adrenaline involved with a defense situation, I am a big fan of Crimson Trace laser grips for any handgun to avoid missing as best as possible.

T.G 08-13-2010 08:27 AM

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I'll agree with the short barrel pump action shotgun reccomendations, altough I would load with #6, because #6 generally won't go through two layers of drywall or won't have enough power left behind it to really damage anyone if it does. 00 buck will go though walls and people at close range.

0002S 08-13-2010 11:31 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolfgang (Post 950208)
Dammit shawn! I'm at work and your showing that stuff. Now I need new pants.!

Enjoy your work day.....sorry about the mess

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/f...0Cave/Gun1.jpg

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/f...0Cave/Gun2.jpg

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/f...0Cave/Gun4.jpg

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/f...0Cave/Gun6.jpg

0002S 08-13-2010 11:32 AM

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http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/f...0Cave/Gun5.jpg

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/f...Cave/Gun25.jpg

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/f...s/755e15d9.jpg

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/f...hTheyLaugh.jpg

SNKBYT 08-13-2010 11:52 AM

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so Shawn ...... when is the next herf @ your place? we could have a GUNS & ASHES herf

sikk50 08-13-2010 01:03 PM

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Went down to LAPD with the old man so he could pick up another Glock. We now have a full family of .40's

elderboy02 08-13-2010 01:11 PM

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Very nice! May I ask why you put those gun locks on your rifles?

0002S 08-13-2010 01:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by snkbyt (Post 951956)
so Shawn ...... when is the next herf @ your place? we could have a GUNS & ASHES herf

We'd need to find an outdoor 100-300 yd range. We can call it the BAD ASHE Herf and Shoot. I'll bring some "interesting" fire power. We can chip in for bulk ammo.

Brents place would be great if we could light it up.

You're always welcome to come to my place to Herf. We'd get arrested for shooting downtown though.

0002S 08-13-2010 01:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by elderboy02 (Post 952092)
Very nice! May I ask why you put those gun locks on your rifles?

Slows down thieves and sticky fingered children.

Since we moved, I've stored the majority of the rifles. The Man Cave, is now the "mini" Man Cave.

Sort of a Green Acers in reverse move.

elderboy02 08-13-2010 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 0002S (Post 952116)
Slows down thieves and sticky fingered children.

I see! I keep mine in a safe. I never used the locks as I figured that if I needed to use a rifle around the house, I don't want to be messing around with taking a lock off.

Darrell 08-13-2010 01:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by elderboy02 (Post 952092)
Very nice! May I ask why you put those gun locks on your rifles?

Safety? :r

bonjing 08-13-2010 02:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RightAJ (Post 951288)
I'm 20, 21 in January (when I can purchase a handgun), and I have little shooting experience.

aj

OK, here goes my sales person schpeel. Go to a range with some buddies, or a take a class and learn how to shoot, I prefer taking a class. Once you learn your safety and fundamentals try out a few different guns and see what works best for you. All the firearms here that were mentioned are all good, but if you do not feel comfortable shooting one, what good does it do for you?

I've told this story before and it's worth mentioning again. I have seen two people walk into a gun store/range, both wanting to buy and rent glocks because of what they have seen and heard. They went to the range and tried a few different firearms; one ended up buying the Glock, the other a Sig.

Each person is going to be different. I'm a Sig guy, because I shoot better with them and they feel better in my hand. Do I own Glocks HELL YES, they are great firearms, but they don't feel good in my hand.

With all that said I use a Smith and Wesson 686 at home.

bonjing 08-13-2010 02:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sikk50 (Post 952077)
Went down to LAPD with the old man so he could pick up another Glock. We now have a full family of .40's

IF you get your hands on an HK45, not the USP, and you don't like it let me know :D

SNKBYT 08-13-2010 02:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 0002S (Post 952111)
We'd need to find an outdoor 100-300 yd range. We can call it the BAD ASHE Herf and Shoot. I'll bring some "interesting" fire power. We can chip in for bulk ammo.

Brents place would be great if we could light it up.

You're always welcome to come to my place to Herf. We'd get arrested for shooting downtown though.

when I get back from vacation, we'll have to set something up for a smoke or two

0002S 08-13-2010 04:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by elderboy02 (Post 952119)
I see! I keep mine in a safe. I never used the locks as I figured that if I needed to use a rifle around the house, I don't want to be messing around with taking a lock off.

There are too many for safes. That's not all of them. The room/basement (old home) that they were in was secure and alarmed.

I keep a .38 snub, Moss 590, and Glock 22 by the bed for "just" those special occasions.

Now that I live in the city, the Man Cave is now the mini Man Cave and 95% of my collection is in secure packed long term storage.

0002S 08-13-2010 04:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by snkbyt (Post 952214)
when I get back from vacation, we'll have to set something up for a smoke or two

Yes we do. We need to hit the range and shoot the BAR. Plus I have two ARs that I need to get on paper @ 100 and 200

Cigarcop 08-13-2010 06:33 PM

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Shawn, any ranges down your way to reach out to 600 or 1000yrds ??

0002S 08-13-2010 06:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cigarcop (Post 952524)
Shawn, any ranges down your way to reach out to 600 or 1000yrds ??

Not that I know of

Cigarcop 08-13-2010 06:49 PM

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So what kinda distances do your ranges stretch out to..only 100 or 200??

loki 08-13-2010 07:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cigarcop (Post 952524)
Shawn, any ranges down your way to reach out to 600 or 1000yrds ??

range im a member of is talking about putting in a 600 yard range

Cigarcop 08-13-2010 07:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by loki (Post 952582)
range im a member of is talking about putting in a 600 yard range


The range I'll be at tomorrow is a 600 Yrd range but we have two that go to 1000...They are a bit of a drive to get to so when we go its an early all day event!

0002S 08-13-2010 07:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cigarcop (Post 952548)
So what kinda distances do your ranges stretch out to..only 100 or 200??

I've only shot indoors here. I've not had the time since I've moved to find a new range home. There has to be a range out too at least 200 yds within 50 miles though.

Cigarcop 08-13-2010 07:38 PM

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That sucks Shawn..well get you azz up here and you can go in the morning :D

Wolfgang 08-13-2010 09:18 PM

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Down here in Sarasota there is one ~1000Yds. Its prety cool but the owners are asshoIes.

0002S 08-14-2010 11:06 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolfgang (Post 952675)
Down here in Sarasota there is one ~1000Yds. Its prety cool but the owners are asshoIes.

I looked it. How so are they a$$holes

Wolfgang 08-14-2010 11:13 AM

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The whole time I was there they (perhaps not the owners the range hands) were giving me crap for this and that. The down time when the range goes cold lasts between 20 and 30 minutes and I just dont have the patience to wait around when I could be sending lead down range at other places.

0002S 08-14-2010 11:40 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolfgang (Post 952985)
The whole time I was there they (perhaps not the owners the range hands) were giving me crap for this and that. The down time when the range goes cold lasts between 20 and 30 minutes and I just dont have the patience to wait around when I could be sending lead down range at other places.

Ah, standard live fire 40 on 20 off range rules.

SNKBYT 08-14-2010 12:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 0002S (Post 952544)
Not that I know of

http://www.traderscreek.com/gun_clubs/florida.asp

SUOrangeGuy 08-24-2010 02:48 PM

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I just ordered my first revolver. S&W 686+ 6" barrel. I should have it by the end of the week and I'm pretty excited.

Other than snap caps and a few speedloaders anybody have some good accessory recommendations?

Cigarcop 08-25-2010 08:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SUOrangeGuy (Post 964288)
I just ordered my first revolver. S&W 686+ 6" barrel. I should have it by the end of the week and I'm pretty excited.

Other than snap caps and a few speedloaders anybody have some good accessory recommendations?


I have that same revolver in Stainless, only thing you might want is to ditch the wooden grips and get a set of Pachmayrs...moocho better in your hand :tu

looking for know 08-25-2010 09:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SUOrangeGuy (Post 964288)
I just ordered my first revolver. S&W 686+ 6" barrel. I should have it by the end of the week and I'm pretty excited.

Other than snap caps and a few speedloaders anybody have some good accessory recommendations?

Good choice!
There's my 686 in the middle below. 6", full underlug, non-fluted. If your trigger is as light as mine, you'll want to be very careful firing single action.
http://a.imageshack.us/img132/9922/threepisthc0.jpg

JaKaacH 08-27-2010 08:40 AM

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Don't take this link one way or another, as in a political direction or opinion.
I just wanted to provide this info for the shooters, hunters and collectors.


Talk of banning lead ammo.

HK3- 08-27-2010 09:20 AM

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What a shame.

357 08-27-2010 09:34 AM

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Idiots. If they push that through before November, the right could have a super-majority come January.

SUOrangeGuy 08-27-2010 09:24 PM

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EPA already said no... so its a dead issue for now.

TheManWithNoName 08-30-2010 07:30 PM

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Love your pics Shawn :tu

T.G 08-30-2010 08:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JaKaacH (Post 968083)
Don't take this link one way or another, as in a political direction or opinion.
I just wanted to provide this info for the shooters, hunters and collectors.


Talk of banning lead ammo.

Didn't they already ban lead shot for waterfowl hunting like 10-15 years ago? Or is that only a California thing?

JaKaacH 08-30-2010 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by T.G (Post 971840)
Didn't they already ban lead shot for waterfowl hunting like 10-15 years ago? Or is that only a California thing?

Yes. Lead was banned for waterfowl hunting, nation wide I think. If I remember correctly the argument for the ban in waterfowl hunting areas was that the birds would ingest the lead shot while feeding. Not a waterfowl hunter but I'm guessing that the ducks and geese feed off of the bottom of shallow waters, thats how they ingest it, then they suffer from lead poisoning.

But shooting at the range punching holes in paper or bowling pins, knocking over steel plates I don't see much harm to wildlife in that instance. The banning of lead in ammo, in my opinion, was just a way to make the cost of shooting sports prohibitive for some.

T.G 08-30-2010 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JaKaacH (Post 971851)
Yes. Lead was banned for waterfowl hunting, nation wide I think. If I remember correctly the argument for the ban in waterfowl hunting areas was that the birds would ingest the lead shot while feeding. Not a waterfowl hunter but I'm guessing that the ducks and geese feed off of the bottom of shallow waters, thats how they ingest it, then they suffer from lead poisoning.

But shooting at the range punching holes in paper or bowling pins, knocking over steel plates I don't see much harm to wildlife in that instance. The banning of lead in ammo, in my opinion, was just a way to make the cost of shooting sports prohibitive for some.

The argument to ban the lead sounds about like I remember it.

My comment wasn't about banning it for paper-punching (which is silly IMO), but rather a question based on how the article was written. The article made it sound as if there were no restrictions whatsoever on lead ammo in hunting use.

JaKaacH 08-30-2010 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by T.G (Post 971876)
The argument to ban the lead sounds about like I remember it.

My comment wasn't about banning it for paper-punching (which is silly IMO), but rather a question based on how the article was written. The article made it sound as if there were no restrictions whatsoever on lead ammo in hunting use.

They, the anti lead crowd, ought to think about what they wish for. I didn't think about it until I read it later, but the non-lead ammo would be less effective in hunting, and a danger to law enforcement. The non-lead ammo would have much more penetration. In hunting the bullets would go through the animal, leaving it wounded, instead of expanding and delivering all the energy for a quick kill. The extra penetration in relation to law enforcement might make some body armor ineffective/useless.

HK3- 08-31-2010 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by JaKaacH (Post 971892)
They, the anti lead crowd, ought to think about what they wish for. I didn't think about it until I read it later, but the non-lead ammo would be less effective in hunting, and a danger to law enforcement. The non-lead ammo would have much more penetration. In hunting the bullets would go through the animal, leaving it wounded, instead of expanding and delivering all the energy for a quick kill. The extra penetration in relation to law enforcement might make some body armor ineffective/useless.

Agree totally. Not to mention law enforment shooting "pass through" shots putting innocent bystanders in harms way.

Jokermann 09-09-2010 07:00 AM

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I have looked at this thread enough, time to post a picture. My Springfield xD 9 with Heine night sights and a Kimber Pro Carry II 45 that I picked up earlier this week. The Kimber has night sights as well. Crummy cell phone pic...

http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/r...nn1/pistol.jpg

Not pictured are a Walther P22, Remington 870 20 ga, Taurus PT 140 and a Marlinn 60 rifle.

SNKBYT 09-09-2010 07:08 AM

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Kimber Raptor 4" .45ACP w/Esmerelda hand crafted grips

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z...9/DSCN0475.jpg

http://www.esmeralda.cc/

elderboy02 09-09-2010 07:10 AM

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Very nice! :gn

HK3- 09-09-2010 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by snkbyt (Post 982628)
Kimber Raptor 4" .45ACP w/Esmerelda hand crafted grips

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z...9/DSCN0475.jpg

Nice grips and gun! :tu

Still thinking about picking up a kimber. Anyone have anything negative to say about them? Looking at the covert custom II.


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