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pnoon 12-07-2011 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Carmack (Post 1495390)
Box question: do most boxes come with dates on them?

With an emphasis on "most"
Cubans - yes.
Non-Cubans - no.

NCRadioMan 12-07-2011 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 1495396)
With an emphasis on "most"
Cubans - yes.
Non-Cubans - no.

This is changing rapidly. I would say most boutique brands do put dates on boxes now.

pnoon 12-07-2011 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by NCRadioMan (Post 1495414)
This is changing rapidly. I would say most boutique brands do put dates on boxes now.

Thank you Mr. Lovebiscuit. :)

CigarNut 12-07-2011 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Blak Smyth (Post 1495200)
Yes unless the tar touches your lips, it is horrible!
I was smoking some small mini AFs for a while until I had one that produced all kinds of tar and it got all over my lips before I noticed it. That ruined my night! It doesn't happen often but eventually you will see it if you like to punch!

Although one of my favorite smokes, I think that the AF Hemingway's are the "tarriest" sticks that I smoke... I almost never have tar on any other stick and I have had tar on many AF sticks... I suspect it may be related to higher nicotine content, but have no data to back this up.

theonlybear4CORT 12-09-2011 09:26 PM

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oh i want to bump this thread and my cousin asked me this and I don't know how to answer it. "how come some smokes make a lot of smoke and some don't"? so what does everyone think here?

T.G 12-09-2011 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by sonic_mike (Post 1497914)
oh i want to bump this thread and my cousin asked me this and I don't know how to answer it. "how come some smokes make a lot of smoke and some don't"? so what does everyone think here?

Combustion and the roll. Good burn and lots of air passages will give you a ton of smoke. Restricting either will reduce the total volume of smoke.

Lots of things can play into the combustion - leaf type, how it's packed, how moist it is, how high the ambient humidity is where you are smoking, etc. The roll, or air passages are mostly all governed by how the cigar was bunched, but can also be affected by how moist the cigar is (wet cigars, the leaves can swell and cause a restricted or tight draw).

Might also want to take a look at these comments from Steve Saka (President, Drew Estates), as he talks about his cigars, but explains in a bit more detail than I've given here.
http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=51516

theonlybear4CORT 12-10-2011 03:12 PM

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Thanks Adam.

Diths0er 12-12-2011 11:47 AM

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How low does the RH have to go before a cigar is noticeably damaged in flavour? I realize that it's all subjective, but there has to be some sort of general area, such as below 60, below 50, etc. for a week, a month, what-have-you. I don't mean actual wrapper cracking and falling apart, just the point where the oils and sugars begin to dissipate in a way that affects the enjoyment of the stick.

kydsid 12-12-2011 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Diths0er (Post 1499778)
How low does the RH have to go before a cigar is noticeably damaged in flavour? I realize that it's all subjective, but there has to be some sort of general area, such as below 60, below 50, etc. for a week, a month, what-have-you. I don't mean actual wrapper cracking and falling apart, just the point where the oils and sugars begin to dissipate in a way that affects the enjoyment of the stick.


Flavor is subjective to the person and from cigar to cigar. But, long term storage (read years) below 55% will most like do some damage. The lower from there the shorter it will take because its relative to the differential in the environment to the cigar.

So say its stored at 20% for a month. That would most likely ruin the cigar, but a month at 50% most likely wouldn't, it may alter it but outright ruin is debatable.

longknocker 12-12-2011 03:24 PM

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My Cigars Are Lower RH In The Winter: 60-63. They Seem To Smoke Fine, Though. I Prefer 63-65.:tu

AmsterDan 12-14-2011 10:43 PM

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Howdy! Not entirely new here, got registered with CigaryAsylum a while back ... but I'm back! Just wanted to get to know your house rules a bit better regarding reviews. If I were to have a cigar review of a cigar previously reviewed on the forum, would I place that review in the existing thread or make a new one under my name? What is the usual?

pnoon 12-14-2011 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by AmsterDan (Post 1502730)
Howdy! Not entirely new here, got registered with CigaryAsylum a while back ... but I'm back! Just wanted to get to know your house rules a bit better regarding reviews. If I were to have a cigar review of a cigar previously reviewed on the forum, would I place that review in the existing thread or make a new one under my name? What is the usual?

Welcome back, Daniel.

There are two schools of thought on this. Just as you will find varying opinions on the cigars themselves, you will also find opinions differ on this as well.

We have no hard and fast rule on it here so do whatever floats your boat.

mkarnold1 12-30-2011 10:58 AM

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Quick question, just bought a box of stogies with no good place to store them. I put them in a gallon ziploc bag with a humicare pouch. Is this OK or are ziplocs not good for stogie storage? I have several ziplocs being utilized for this purpose.

goomer 12-30-2011 11:09 AM

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No good for anything but mailing. I would suggest mailing them to me. I have room and will keep them for you. :tu

14holestogie 12-30-2011 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by mkarnold1 (Post 1516083)
Quick question, just bought a box of stogies with no good place to store them. I put them in a gallon ziploc bag with a humicare pouch. Is this OK or are ziplocs not good for stogie storage? I have several ziplocs being utilized for this purpose.

Short-term storage should be fine. I'd open the bags once a week or so to let them breathe a bit.

bobarian 12-30-2011 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by mkarnold1 (Post 1516083)
Quick question, just bought a box of stogies with no good place to store them. I put them in a gallon ziploc bag with a humicare pouch. Is this OK or are ziplocs not good for stogie storage? I have several ziplocs being utilized for this purpose.

Should be fine. I would open the bag once a week or so to get rid of excess moisture. You can buy a cooler for about $15 at WalMart, throw in a couple of Humicare pillows and you are good to go. When you have some spare change you can get a two-ounce tube of Heartfelt Industries beads that will regulate humidity better than the pillows. Search coolers or coolerdors to find more info. :2

Steve 12-30-2011 11:30 AM

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http://demandware.edgesuite.net/aaez...500s-20-20.jpg

mkarnold1 12-30-2011 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by steve (Post 1516108)

;) Got one of those, it's in my truck and full of smokes.

SpruceBruce 12-30-2011 12:10 PM

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I don't think this has been asked before - so here goes.

Is there any harm in letting the humidity packs physically touch cigars, or can you lay them right on the sticks?

T.G 12-30-2011 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SpruceBruce (Post 1516140)
I don't think this has been asked before - so here goes.

Is there any harm in letting the humidity packs physically touch cigars, or can you lay them right on the sticks?

It's perfectly fine to do that with the Boveda packs, in fact, some manufacturers, most notably Fuente, insert humipaks* into the boxes of cigars at the factory prior to sealing the boxes and shipping them to the US for distribution and sale.

Water pillows, so long as they are in their little ziplock bag or with the permeable membrane facing away from the cigars, it's fine.



*: the manufacturer inserted humipaks are identical to the Boveda packs which you can buy at many B&Ms.

longknocker 12-30-2011 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by T.G (Post 1516161)
It's perfectly fine to do that with the Boveda packs, in fact, some manufacturers, most notably Fuente, insert humipaks* into the boxes of cigars at the factory prior to sealing the boxes and shipping them to the US for distribution and sale.

Water pillows, so long as they are in their little ziplock bag or with the permeable membrane facing away from the cigars, it's fine.



*: the manufacturer inserted humipaks are identical to the Boveda packs which you can buy at many B&Ms.

:tu My Boveda Packs Are Directly Under My Sticks. No Problem! :)

Shidoshi 12-30-2011 08:35 PM

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I've been smoking a lot of cigars lately that seem to mention in their descriptions that the wrapper is a Connecticut Broadleaf. I'm still learning about different tobacco blends, but can't find a lot of info on this type for some reason. Can anyone explain why it seems to be a popular wrapper choice and what characteristics differentiate it from others? Thanks.

Newbie_nick 12-30-2011 08:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mkarnold1 (Post 1516083)
Quick question, just bought a box of stogies with no good place to store them. I put them in a gallon ziploc bag with a humicare pouch. Is this OK or are ziplocs not good for stogie storage? I have several ziplocs being utilized for this purpose.

Mark,

A coolidor is easier and cheaper to assemble than you might think. Take a look at my thread (below), and if you have any questions, feel free to PM me. I always had trouble with humidity control in my regular humidor before I bought the beads, but with the beads, I can withstand the dry winter and keep my sticks at the "perfect" 65% RH.

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=49471

Nick

T.G 12-30-2011 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Shidoshi (Post 1516510)
I've been smoking a lot of cigars lately that seem to mention in their descriptions that the wrapper is a Connecticut Broadleaf. I'm still learning about different tobacco blends, but can't find a lot of info on this type for some reason. Can anyone explain why it seems to be a popular wrapper choice and what characteristics differentiate it from others? Thanks.

Simple/short answer: It's a heavy flavor, leather, spice, earth, some sweetness is possible depending on how it's fermented and cured. And it has no shortage of flavor, it's a beast. It can hold up to some of the fullest-flavored filler blends out there.

Long answer: http://www.cigaraficionado.com/webfe...ough-Leaf_7042

Shidoshi 12-31-2011 09:17 AM

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Thanks T.G.! Much appreciated! -(P

44stampede 01-01-2012 06:08 PM

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Hey guys,

How do you upload a pic from the computer? I can see the button to create a link but is there any direct upload?

icehog3 01-01-2012 06:20 PM

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Majority of people use a photo storage site like Photobucket.com, Brett.

44stampede 01-01-2012 08:02 PM

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What's the best mag for cigars? Thinking of subscribing to aficionado. Any value in that or is the their website and here better anyway?

nayslayer 01-01-2012 09:11 PM

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I get aficionado, also get Cigar snob

pnoon 01-01-2012 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 44stampede (Post 1517912)
What's the best mag for cigars? Thinking of subscribing to aficionado. Any value in that or is the their website and here better anyway?

IMO, you will get more accurate information and more unbiased opinions here than in any magazine or the Cigar Aficionado forums.
:2

icehog3 01-01-2012 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 44stampede (Post 1517912)
What's the best mag for cigars? Thinking of subscribing to aficionado. Any value in that or is the their website and here better anyway?

They have some great golf course and watch reviews.

Mattso3000 01-01-2012 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1517959)
They have some great golf course and watch reviews.

I think Catherine Zeta-Jones was on the cover once...

icehog3 01-01-2012 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattso3000 (Post 1517964)
I think Catherine Zeta-Jones was on the cover once...

That's worth the cover price.



Or not. :r

bobarian 01-01-2012 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 1517958)
IMO, you will get more accurate information and more unbiased opinions here than in any magazine or the Cigar Aficionado forums.
:2

:tpd: CA is loaded with great pictures but very little information. Check with friends who have magazine subscriptions they often have a free offer for Aficionado. Havent seen any magazines that have any substantive information that is really useful. You will find much more here or by searching Google. :2

Mattso3000 01-01-2012 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1517970)
That's worth the cover price.



Or not. :r

It's always sitting in front of me on the coffee table at the B&M, she looks nice. Not high maintenance at all.

icehog3 01-01-2012 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattso3000 (Post 1517974)
It's always sitting in front of me on the coffee table at the B&M, she looks nice. Not high maintenance at all.

I'd like to hear from Michael Douglas about that! :lr

44stampede 01-04-2012 12:36 AM

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Do I gain access at some point to come up with my own slogan or did I miss it?

It's moot at this point as I haven't thought of anything witty enough but I may get inspired :>)

Remo 01-04-2012 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by 44stampede (Post 1519724)
Do I gain access at some point to come up with my own slogan or did I miss it?

It's moot at this point as I haven't thought of anything witty enough but I may get inspired :>)

Go into user cp and it's in the edit details on the left side.

ysr_racer 01-08-2012 08:32 AM

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I know what "box pressed" is, but what's the point of it?

Carmack 01-08-2012 08:42 AM

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According to Cigar Adviser - Originating in Cuba, this was done to save shipping space. As a result, the process causes the cigars to burn longer and with a more consistent flavor, giving the smoker a more enjoyable smoke.

and Cuban Crafters say - What is box-pressed?
A cigar, while fresh and moist, is actually pressed in a wood box and the pressure creates a perfectly square shaped cigar. The box-pressed cigars usually burn long and give a more flavorful taste.

icehog3 01-08-2012 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Carmack (Post 1524253)
According to Cigar Adviser - Originating in Cuba, this was done to save shipping space. As a result, the process causes the cigars to burn longer and with a more consistent flavor, giving the smoker a more enjoyable smoke.

and Cuban Crafters say - What is box-pressed?
A cigar, while fresh and moist, is actually pressed in a wood box and the pressure creates a perfectly square shaped cigar. The box-pressed cigars usually burn long and give a more flavorful taste.

For the record, that hasn't been my experience, I think cab (round) versions of the same vitola often burn and taste better. :2

joeobx 01-08-2012 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1524368)
For the record, that hasn't been my experience, I think cab (round) versions of the same vitola often burn and taste better. :2

I find most box pressed I've had run up one side.

longknocker 01-08-2012 12:37 PM

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I Can't Detect Any Difference In Taste Or Burn Between The Two.:confused:

CigarNut 01-08-2012 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by longknocker (Post 1524437)
I Can't Detect Any Difference In Taste Or Burn Between The Two.:confused:

:tpd:

As many in the Asylum are fond of saying: Smoke What You Like, Like What You Smoke. It's all good!

coty 01-08-2012 09:08 PM

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I think cab or box press does have as much to do with taste as much as burn. The construction of a box press seems (to me) to me to have tighter packed "corners " and looser packed sides which always tend to burn uneven for me.

coty 01-08-2012 09:25 PM

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I have a question that has puzzled me that I couldn't find an answer to... Smoking speed vs flavor vs size vs cigar .
I have noticed that I get a different flavor from cigars with different draws i.e. a light slow longer draw seems to always reveal a sweeter smoke and a more cedar draw on cigars like pepin black labels; however , a shorter draw in time (drawing the same amount of smoke) tends to be less sweet and more spicy than cedar. This technique also brings different flavors in other cigars as well.
Is there any specific way that one needs to smoke specific types of cigars to obtain optimal flavor? For example should you smoke a robusto faster (in ratio of drawing not time) than a corna or lancero and would style matter such as you should smoke maduros faster than claros?

coty 01-08-2012 09:27 PM

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And are any particular brands meant to be smoked faster (in draw ratio not time) than others?

T.G 01-08-2012 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by coty (Post 1524957)
I have a question that has puzzled me that I couldn't find an answer to... Smoking speed vs flavor vs size vs cigar .
I have noticed that I get a different flavor from cigars with different draws i.e. a light slow longer draw seems to always reveal a sweeter smoke and a more cedar draw on cigars like pepin black labels; however , a shorter draw in time (drawing the same amount of smoke) tends to be less sweet and more spicy than cedar. This technique also brings different flavors in other cigars as well.
Is there any specific way that one needs to smoke specific types of cigars to obtain optimal flavor? For example should you smoke a robusto faster (in ratio of drawing not time) than a corna or lancero and would style matter such as you should smoke maduros faster than claros?

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Originally Posted by coty (Post 1524959)
And are any particular brands meant to be smoked faster (in draw ratio not time) than others?


You're over analyzing it. Optimal flavor to one person might not be the same for the next person. Just smoke it how you are comfortable;how it gives you the flavors that you find enjoyable and it doesn't burn all wonky. Eventually you'll figure out your own pattern and timing that yields the most enjoyment for you.

coty 01-08-2012 10:57 PM

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I accept that, however, I ask because there are a million and one different things that can be done to enjoy a cigar. I understand at the end of the day people will smoke how they like but I would like to know as many of these little techniques as possible so I can try news things and iideas out and possibly enjoy my smoking experience more.

longknocker 01-09-2012 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by coty (Post 1524993)
I accept that, however, I ask because there are a million and one different things that can be done to enjoy a cigar. I understand at the end of the day people will smoke how they like but I would like to know as many of these little techniques as possible so I can try news things and iideas out and possibly enjoy my smoking experience more.

The Faster You Smoke & Harder You Draw, The More Harshness You Get From Your Smokes. Smoke Slowly & Draw Easy!:) :tu


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