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DavenportESQ 03-19-2009 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete (Post 294096)
Need to change something. I posted earlier in this thread about leaving something at the gym. Yesterday also. Ran out of time before I ran out of steam.

I vary my workout routine to some degree as to not allow any certain muscle groups get "used" to the work. Still not enough. Bumped the weight sessions up to 90 minutes, and one hour of cardio every other day.

This is more or less rhetorical, but if anybody has a nice variation in their workout that they might employ occasionally, I'm listening.

Pete~

Why not try and do something more circuit based. Stuff like Cross-fit and supersetting workouts is a neat way to challenge yourself.

Maybe try a "300" workout where each time you go in there you try and break your best time. Workouts like these will also get you in better shape faster and burn more fat than any cardio workout:2

Mugen910 03-19-2009 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DavenportESQ (Post 294163)
Pete~

Why not try and do something more circuit based. Stuff like Cross-fit and supersetting workouts is a neat way to challenge yourself.

Maybe try a "300" workout where each time you go in there you try and break your best time. Workouts like these will also get you in better shape faster and burn more fat than any cardio workout:2

Can you elaborate on the "300" workout?

The Professor 03-19-2009 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Mugen910 (Post 294173)
Can you elaborate on the "300" workout?

25 pull-ups
50 deadlifts at 135 pounds
50 push-ups
50 box jumps with a 24-inch box
50 "floor wipers" (a core and shoulders exercise at 135 pounds)
50 "clean and press" at 36 pounds (a weight-lifting exercise)
25 more pull-ups -- for a total of 300 reps


Google it and you'll find out a lot more. It's part of the exercise program for the actors and stuntmen from the film 300.

DavenportESQ 03-19-2009 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Mugen910 (Post 294173)
Can you elaborate on the "300" workout?

Its not my workout, and I don't know a lot about the background, but the gist of it is Gerard Butler (of 300) did this workout where he would do 300 reps.

Its kind of a neat idea because you could tailor it to fit your needs.

Here is an example of something I might do

50 Clean Pulls
50 Snatch Pulls
50 Overhead Presses
50 Fron't Squats
50 Back Squat
50 Incline Presses

You do this with minimal rest. I think it's more important to do the reps than to do a heavier weight. You would be suprised doing all that with just the bar with no rest would be excruciatingly challenging for most.

So you do this the first time with no weight and say you knock it out in 12 minutes. Well next time you try to up the intensity and try and keep cutting time off of it till you get to a point where you might want to add 10-20 lbs and then you do it agian get your time and keep cutting the time down.

For some who don't know Crossfit is a workout system designed for active people who don't have a lot of time. It also was influenced by Navy seals to some degree to create "usable" strength and functionability. Each day they post a workout and it explains it. here is the link
http://crossfit.com/

They also have some pretty motivating video's on youtube. It's impressive to see some of these chicks get down and dirty with weight and really get after it. (kinda sexy)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVBgK...rom=PL&index=1

Mugen910 03-19-2009 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by The Professor (Post 294185)
25 pull-ups
50 deadlifts at 135 pounds
50 push-ups
50 box jumps with a 24-inch box
50 "floor wipers" (a core and shoulders exercise at 135 pounds)
50 "clean and press" at 36 pounds (a weight-lifting exercise)
25 more pull-ups -- for a total of 300 reps


Google it and you'll find out a lot more. It's part of the exercise program for the actors and stuntmen from the film 300.

i stopped reading at 25 pull-ups! Man I'll just paint abs on myself... :tu

DavenportESQ 03-19-2009 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by The Professor (Post 294185)
25 pull-ups
50 deadlifts at 135 pounds
50 push-ups
50 box jumps with a 24-inch box
50 "floor wipers" (a core and shoulders exercise at 135 pounds)
50 "clean and press" at 36 pounds (a weight-lifting exercise)
25 more pull-ups -- for a total of 300 reps


Google it and you'll find out a lot more. It's part of the exercise program for the actors and stuntmen from the film 300.

Way to steal my thunder!!

I like my workout better:fu, they can have all those abs, I will take functional strength

Pete 03-19-2009 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by The Professor (Post 294130)
Pete: Give us an idea of your workout that you're not running out of steam on. For example, what was it today?


Yesterday afternoon actually.

warmed up a little with 3x10 @70 dumbell rows

v-grip rows on the bar
70 x 12 x 2
105 x12 x2
145 x 10 x 2
180 x 8 x 2
190 x 6 x 2
180 x 8
145 x 10
105 x 10
70 x 25

As long as the bar was tucked in the corner I did a few landmines.
35 pound plate x 3 sets x 10 reps

lat pull downs / varying grips
140 x 10 x 6

machine rows
170 x 3 x 10

squats; legs suck, minmal weight, glad to be able to do them
3 x 10 minimal weight

bent over barbell flys
25 x 10 x 3

bent over rows on the Smith
155 x 3 x 10

Should have been a pretty good workout.
Left me wanting.

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Maybe try a "300" workout where each time you go in there you try and break your best time. Workouts like these will also get you in better shape faster and burn more fat than any cardio workout
That looks freekin grueling. Oughter be worth a try. It will for sure keep it interesting.

icehog3 03-19-2009 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete (Post 294225)
As long as the bar was tucked in the corner I did a few landmines.
35 pound plate x 3 sets x 10 reps

The gym that I have worked out at for the last several years doesn't have 35 lb. plates....man, I miss those.

BigFrank 03-19-2009 07:21 PM

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Here's my 300 routine.

300mg of test every other day, get you jacked in no time at all.

rofl.

Sometimes I often feel like I didnt go balls to the wall at the gym, but I dont let it bother me too much. Use it as fuel to return and have a good workout. Someone told me not to long ago, if you think things are perfect, you leave no room for improvement.

This is also why I am following a routine and pay attention to weights and reps. I have my numbers, I hit them and anything else is extra. I allow myself to have days where I might not be 100%, and also give myself the room to go insane.

Ed Coan was a big believer in not emptying the tank during every workout, leaving a little left so to speak.

Mugen910 03-19-2009 07:49 PM

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Chest, biceps, triceps...each with 20 reps per set.

15min on the elliptical and 15min on the bike. very light day for me.

Mugen910 03-21-2009 04:07 PM

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12-13 Miles today with lots of hills. Prob gonna do some wieghts tomorrow to keep the juices flowing. :tu Hope everyone is having a great weekend.

icehog3 03-21-2009 08:33 PM

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Off day for me today, though I had two hockey games.....back at it in the morning.

Going to try a prohormone in April, haven't done any for a couple years.

Bao, hope you are having a great weekend too. :)

BigFrank 03-22-2009 09:56 AM

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which prohormone you looking to try Tom?

icehog3 03-22-2009 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BigFrank (Post 298132)
which prohormone you looking to try Tom?

SUS-500, Frank...I have read mixed reviews, but I have seen a couple friends at the gym who appear to have gotten good strength and size results.

BigFrank 03-22-2009 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 298348)
SUS-500, Frank...I have read mixed reviews, but I have seen a couple friends at the gym who appear to have gotten good strength and size results.

Good luck with that, hope it works out for ya.

icehog3 03-22-2009 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BigFrank (Post 298393)
Good luck with that, hope it works out for ya.

Tried it before, Frank?

BigFrank 03-22-2009 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 298587)
Tried it before, Frank?

That's a negative for that brand. I have tried some prohormones once, I was rather pleased with the results. A little pricey, compared to the real thing.

icehog3 03-23-2009 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by BigFrank (Post 298803)
That's a negative for that brand. I have tried some prohormones once, I was rather pleased with the results. A little pricey, compared to the real thing.

My only real choice based on my job. I had good results with 1-AD and 1-TU, and actually bought about 2 years worth right before they were banned, but I have been out of those for quite some time.

The Professor 03-23-2009 06:12 AM

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Tried NanoVapor for the first time today. I'll reserve judgment for the end of the week. This was my first day back since last Friday -- took the weekend off because (a) I was doing all sorts of work around the house and yard and (b) because the gym was closed. :(

Chest & Tris
Flat bench: 5 x 5 @ 145#
Incline bench: 10 @ 105#; 8 @ 105# (close); 8,7,6 @ 115#
Dip machine: 10 @ 185#; 8 @ 190#; 6,7 @ 200#; 5 @ 205
Superset 3 circuits to failure of: reverse curls, straight bar press-downs, & one-arm press-downs
Superset 3 circuits to failure of: overhead rope extensions & v-bar press-downs

All in all, a chest & tris day that I was generally happy with. :ze It's only my second week back on incline bench since November and I see improvement over last week. Dips are also getting stronger. Flat bench feels better, too. Arms are also getting big enough to start ruling out some of my shirts; or as DrMS says, "you may not be a large anymore." :r

If I could only be a more disciplined eater and drop some of this fat.... :fl

Happy lifting to all!

Mugen910 03-23-2009 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 297567)
Bao, hope you are having a great weekend too. :)

Great weekend indeed...Yesterday was some BP at softball and then 9+ holes of golf! :tu

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Originally Posted by The Professor (Post 299215)
Arms are also getting big enough to start ruling out some of my shirts; or as DrMS says, "you may not be a large anymore." :r

Don't you want to leave the LG shirts in when you get more muscular? I thought that was the rule? :D

PeteSB75 03-23-2009 07:03 AM

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Shoulder work today

Standing OH Press
45x10
65x10
95x5
115x5 2 sets
110x5 - was approaching failure on the 115 and didn't fancy dropping the bar on my head, so I dropped the weight a touch and I think my last couple were technically push-presses, rather than normal presses...

Side Lat/Front Lat/OH Raise
10x10 2 sets

Upright Rows
50x10
60x10
70x5
80x5
90x5 3 sets

and a little abs at the end, 3 sets 15 reps hanging leg raises.

The Professor 03-23-2009 07:25 AM

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@Pete: My overhead press trick is to do it on the power rack and put the arms up high ... like just below where the bottom of the press is. That way, I can go until failure and if I drop the bar, it doesn't have far to travel (and I can get out of the way). I'll do the same thing for (seated) military presses and for rack walk-outs. :ze

@Bao: But when the seam on a shirtsleeve starts cutting your circulation a little, it may be a sign to change shirts. :r

Mugen910 03-23-2009 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by The Professor (Post 299314)

@Bao: But when the seam on a shirtsleeve starts cutting your circulation a little, it may be a sign to change shirts. :r

Hmm..I was always told that it helps your veins bulge. :r

The Professor 03-23-2009 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Mugen910 (Post 299329)
Hmm..I was always told that it helps your veins bulge. :r

Sure ...




... if you're trying to shoot up meth! :r

Mugen910 03-23-2009 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by The Professor (Post 299332)
Sure ...




... if you're trying to shoot up meth! :r

no comment.:)

King James 03-23-2009 07:43 AM

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Ganna try to hit the weights after class.....but seems a combo of moving in and throwing a football around (more so the football I think) caused my tennis elbow to flare up.

The Professor 03-23-2009 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by King James (Post 299337)
Ganna try to hit the weights after class.....but seems a combo of moving in and throwing a football around (more so the football I think) caused my tennis elbow to flare up.

ouch. hope it feels better, James. do some leg work or make it a century deadlift day. :tu

PeteSB75 03-23-2009 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by The Professor (Post 299314)
@Pete: My overhead press trick is to do it on the power rack and put the arms up high ... like just below where the bottom of the press is. That way, I can go until failure and if I drop the bar, it doesn't have far to travel (and I can get out of the way). I'll do the same thing for (seated) military presses and for rack walk-outs. :ze

@Bao: But when the seam on a shirtsleeve starts cutting your circulation a little, it may be a sign to change shirts. :r

Yeah, my only problem is that I don't have a power rack at the gym I was at this morning. They have one of those angled squat racks, so it's not adjustable. Maybe I'll start doing shoulders at the gym at work, where there is a power rack.

The Professor 03-23-2009 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by PeteSB75 (Post 299346)
Yeah, my only problem is that I don't have a power rack at the gym I was at this morning. They have one of those angled squat racks, so it's not adjustable. Maybe I'll start doing shoulders at the gym at work, where there is a power rack.

That's what I would do. Otherwise, you're gonna keep finding yourself in the position you were today ... of holding back because of little things like crushing your skull. ;)

zonedar 03-23-2009 12:07 PM

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Started a new workout. Coming off a couple months of heavy lifting (for me anyway) and my body needed a break.

Trainer has me doing 21's. For example bench: 7 chest to mid position, 7 mid position to top, 7 chest to top. Incline DB Flys 7, Incline DB Arnolds 7, Incline DB press 7. Etc...

3 sets each.

Went through the whole body this morning and I'm spent. Will probably break it up into two workouts and rotate them 3-4 times a week for a few weeks

zemekone 03-23-2009 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 299107)
My only real choice based on my job. I had good results with 1-AD and 1-TU, and actually bought about 2 years worth right before they were banned, but I have been out of those for quite some time.

try Trenavar by Nutra-Coastal Trading, its 19-norandrosta 4, 9 diene, 17 dione 30mg per pill

looks like the its pretty nice, but i have not tried yet...

BigFrank 03-23-2009 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 299107)
My only real choice based on my job. I had good results with 1-AD and 1-TU, and actually bought about 2 years worth right before they were banned, but I have been out of those for quite some time.

They test for that kind of crap? I always was under the presumption that tests that screen for test levels were expensive and werent done unless sports related.
Wouldnt taking prohormones give you a false positive anyway if screened in a test?

icehog3 03-23-2009 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by zemekone (Post 299821)
try Trenavar by Nutra-Coastal Trading, its 19-norandrosta 4, 9 diene, 17 dione 30mg per pill

looks like the its pretty nice, but i have not tried yet...

I will give that a try next if the SUS-500 isn't all it is purported to be...Thanks, Gerry! :)

Not much gas today on back, so I didn't push it. 6 sets of pull-ups from 19 to 10, heavy pulldowns and some DB rows. Hit shoulders quick but heavy. Hope to save a little gas for my game tonight, that's why I skipped any deadlifts, T-Bars or Bent Over Rows.

Tomorrow is supposed to be leg day, but I have semi-final game #2 tomorrow night, so legs will be off until Wed. or Thurs.

King James 03-23-2009 03:41 PM

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Interested to hear how it works for you, Tom. Never heard of it before

icehog3 03-23-2009 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by King James (Post 300130)
Interested to hear how it works for you, Tom. Never heard of it before

I just heard of it recently too, Jim, I hadn't given much thought to any new prohormones since the ban...but the results I have seen a couple of friends get with this one made me curious.

King James 03-23-2009 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 300267)
I just heard of it recently too, Jim, I hadn't given much thought to any new prohormones since the ban...but the results I have seen a couple of friends get with this one made me curious.

Ganna read up on prohormones, as I'm not very familiar with them in general

icehog3 03-23-2009 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by King James (Post 300429)
Ganna read up on prohormones, as I'm not very familiar with them in general

I think it is akin to other supplements...what works for one guy might not work for the next. I will let you know what I think once I am a couple weeks into it.

The Professor 03-24-2009 06:10 AM

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Had another day of PBs today. Feeling good; feeling strong (for a weak and fragile little unicorn like me, that is). :ze


Back Day

T-bar rows: 1p x 10 close, medium, wide (no rest); 2p x 10 close, medium (no rest), 3p x 10 close; 3p + a 25# x 4 close (that's a personal best -- most weight I've done on this exercise); 3p x 10 close; 3p x 8 close

BB rows: 135 x 10 close; 185 x 8 medium (the rest are medium, too); 195 x 8; 205 x 7; 225 x 5 (ties a PB)

1-arm DB rows: 3 sets of 8 @ 100

Cable low rows: 2 sets of 6 @ 225

Deadlifts: 135 x 25 (quick) -- I was just messing around and wondered how many I could do before I had too much lactic acid buildup. I guess 25 is the number. :r

Anyway ... that was my day. Good lifting to all y'all today! :tu :ze

King James 03-24-2009 06:31 AM

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Shoulder day for me :tu

PeteSB75 03-24-2009 06:55 AM

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Some chest work today.

Flat bench was good
45x10 95x5 135x5 165x5 3 sets (PR)
Incline bench, just was not hitting the groove until my last set
45x10 95x5 135x5 165x4 155x5 2 sets
Dips - never done these free before, takes some definite getting used to, and a lot harder than just the weight added, those stabilizing muscles are not there yet.
3 sets of 5 each.

King James 03-24-2009 07:36 AM

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interesting article on protein if anyone is interested.

icehog3 03-24-2009 08:13 AM

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Nice back day Dokk! :tu

Chris. 03-24-2009 08:53 AM

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I had a decent day at the gym yesterday for the first time in about 3 weeks thanks to a really bad cut on the palm of my right hand.

bike-warm up-5 minutes

pull-ups- 1x10 1x8 1x6 progressively reducing weight on the assist machine each set.

back extensions with a 10lb plate held out in front. 4x10

shrugs- 3x12x65

dumbell incline press- 4x10x60

finished up with cable pec flys.

decent for the first day back in almost a month I think. I'm feelin it today though!

The Professor 03-25-2009 06:13 AM

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"Rest" day for me, today:

18min 10% incline, 3.3mph treadmill

100 ab reps (3 x 15 @200# cable rope crunches; 3 x 10 captain's chair; 2 x 15 @45/50# standing oblique raises)

24 minutes recumbent bike @ 10 resistance (kept heart rate in the 120s)

Mugen910 03-25-2009 08:02 AM

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IMHO Fast 5k yesterday after work and then a light shoulder and back workout :tu

DavenportESQ 03-25-2009 08:35 AM

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Haven't been able to work the bench press in a few monthes now due to some shoulder injuries. I was messing around with some Split jerks the other day and it didn't aggrevate it too much so I decided to add this into my routine.

barx5
135x5
185x5
225x5
275x5
315x3

I was pretty juiced about this, I can't remember the last time I did this exercise. My PR is 385x3 so I am not that far off.

The Professor 03-25-2009 08:40 AM

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Nice job, Dave!!! :tu

icehog3 03-25-2009 02:20 PM

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Glad you're able to hit the BP again, Dave. :tu

I supersetted chest and back today, and was able to keep it heavy even towards the end. Tomorrow will be my last workout until next Monday, so I wanted to get in a good one....and I did.

3-4 Supersets of each:

Incline DB Bench / Pull ups
Weighted dips / T-Bar rows
Bench Press / Barbells rows
Seated machine incline flyes / DB rows

The Professor 03-25-2009 04:31 PM

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Damn, Admiral ... my muscles ache just looking at that. Nice job! :tu

icehog3 03-25-2009 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by The Professor (Post 303724)
Damn, Admiral ... my muscles ache just looking at that. Nice job! :tu

Thanks Brother....manana, and then 3 days off....first time in a couple months.


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