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floydpink 09-30-2011 09:18 AM

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Sounds like my life; one bad month and you're looking for a new job.....

Bruins Fan 09-30-2011 09:27 AM

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Tito and Theo were in the right place at the right time, the 04 team was built by Dan Doucette,all Theo did was get rid of Noarm.
Grady Little should have brought the team to the series if he wasn't such a idiot.
That's the way I see it. -(P

kugie 09-30-2011 09:27 AM

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Someone has to pay and It's a shame it was laid on him.

But you can't fire baseball players

Bruins Fan 09-30-2011 09:37 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kugie (Post 1425226)
Someone has to pay and It's a shame it was laid on him.

But you can't fire baseball players

And you don't give another ship to the captain of the Titanic.

The Poet 09-30-2011 02:00 PM

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There were rumors yesterday on ESPN radio here in NY that Boston discreetly approached Joe Torre. Aside from the thought that it would be weird seeing Joe in a Red Sox uni, the main objection is that Boston may not be willing to pay Torre what he would demand. After dropping big bucks on Dice-K and Crawford, with (to date anyway) minimal return, these analysts feel John Henry might be gun-shy.

jonumberone 09-30-2011 02:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruins Fan (Post 1425225)
Tito and Theo were in the right place at the right time, the 04 team was built by Dan Doucette,all Theo did was get rid of Noarm.

I guess bringing in Schilling had nothing to do with it? :sh
Was the 07 team with Beckett all Dan Doucette too?

Bruins Fan 09-30-2011 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jonumberone (Post 1425519)
I guess bringing in Schilling had nothing to do with it? :sh
Was the 07 team with Beckett all Dan Doucette too?

LOL ,Theo had nothing to do with the Beckett deal it was at the time he quit the sox and was sneaking around Fenway in the gorilla suit.

Bruins Fan 09-30-2011 04:25 PM

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Some of Theo's biggest blunders, I wont list the one year big money busts like Smolts.
Edger Renteria 2 for 18.5 mil
Julio Lugo 5 for 36 mil
Daisuke 6 for 51.11 plus a 50 mil posting fee
J D Drew 5 for 70 mil
John Lackey 5 for 82.5 mil
Carl Crawford 7 for 142 mil
Theo should have lost his job long ago.

icehog3 09-30-2011 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruins Fan (Post 1425633)
Some of Theo's biggest blunders, I wont list the one year big money busts like Smolts.
Edger Renteria 2 for 18.5 mil
Julio Lugo 5 for 36 mil
Daisuke 6 for 51.11 plus a 50 mil posting fee
J D Drew 5 for 70 mil
John Lackey 5 for 82.5 mil
Carl Crawford 7 for 142 mil
Theo should have lost his job long ago.

I will raise you Jim Hendry for the win! :D

kelmac07 09-30-2011 06:22 PM

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They are going to regret letting Francona go.

kugie 09-30-2011 09:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruins Fan (Post 1425633)
Some of Theo's biggest blunders, I wont list the one year big money busts like Smolts.
Edger Renteria 2 for 18.5 mil
Julio Lugo 5 for 36 mil
Daisuke 6 for 51.11 plus a 50 mil posting fee
J D Drew 5 for 70 mil
John Lackey 5 for 82.5 mil
Carl Crawford 7 for 142 mil
Theo should have lost his job long ago.

I don't agree with all of these

Lackey, is a bust, he has a broken head and can't get in the game. And he's not worth it.
J.D Drew, he is what was expected decent at times with no heart. But when it came to the playoffs he stepped it up.
Carl Crawford, the jury's still out on him,(1st year new team) can he get his head in the game of the Boston media, we'll see.
Daisuke, everyone and their brother was happy they got him he was a project that "ehh", worked in the beginning but fizzled out.

And the Sox have a revolving door at SS so those other two are a wash.
Look at RentAReck and Lugo they both played to there potential when they left here they don't have the heart to play in a place that really cares.
my :2 for what it's worth.
Sorry to see Tito go but someone had to pay the price

BigAsh 10-01-2011 07:00 AM

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Its a shame....I liked Tito...he lived not far from me when he was with the Phillies...I guess he "lost" the clubhouse...tough to manage when you can't get thru to your players....From his statement:

"We met this morning to look back on the 2011 season and to consider the future of the Boston Red Sox, including my involvement with the club. I passed along my frustrations at my inability to effectively reach the players. After many conversations and much consideration, I ultimately felt that, out of respect to this team, it was time for me to move on," Francona said.

"I've always maintained that it is not only the right, but the obligation, of ownership to have the right person doing this job. I told them that out of my enormous respect for this organization and the people in it, they may need to find a different voice to lead the team."


There will be some more house-cleaning, no doubt....there are a lot pf good pieces there, just need someone to put the puzzle together...

mosesbotbol 10-01-2011 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by kelmac07 (Post 1425722)
They are going to regret letting Francona go.

I don't think so, Francona wanted to leave. Managers have a shelf life no matter how successful they were. The next manager may not be "better", but a different direction and voice was needed in the dug out.

VTDragon 10-03-2011 10:22 AM

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Lots of nice talk, but Francona got fired. The Sox allowed him his dignity, but he still got fired. I think the White Sox will be thrilled to get him as will the Chicago players. I expect that Theo won't be far behind him, (and he'll probably end up on the other side of Chicago from Tito). John Henry gave Theo a blank check and he has not produced since 07. Henry expects to get more for his money than he got this season. Look for Ben Charrington to be the new GM and for the Sox to make a play for John Farrell. Ya, he's under contract but so is Theo and money talks.

massphatness 11-11-2011 12:50 PM

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ugh

Quote:

Jonathan Papelbon is apparently going to be changing organizations for the first time in his professional career. He has agreed to sign with the Phillies for a four-year contract that "approaches" $50 million, pending a physical, according to CSNPhilly.com.

Bruins Fan 11-11-2011 01:07 PM

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Good for him, he was after every dollar.
And a big F U to the Sox :tu

VTDragon 11-14-2011 01:33 PM

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First decision of the Charrington administration was to let Pappelbon go. Good for you Ben, I believe Pap will tank with the Phillies as he's now got the money he has been seeking for years. It will be real interesting to see what comes out of the winter meetings.

tupacboy 04-23-2012 03:47 PM

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been a rough start gents... injuries... and a pen that keeps collapsing... but its early :)

The Poet 04-23-2012 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by tupacboy (Post 1623223)
been a rough start gents... injuries... and a pen that keeps collapsing... but its early :)


True dat. But in the AL East, as the wise man Yogi Berra said, it gets late early around here. ;)

The Poet 08-14-2012 02:48 PM

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OK, I can understand all you "loyal" Boston fans hiding in embarrassment all these months, but are you REALLY gonna leave it to a Yankee to mention the passing of Johnny Pesky?

Rest in Peace.


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