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Lonely Raven 10-05-2011 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by T.G (Post 1430106)
FWIW, at the Drew Estates factory, there are three storage areas for completed cigars, one for all ACID products, one for all coffee based infusions, and finally, one for non-infused cigars. Each of the storage areas has sealed walls and independant ventelation so that no mingling of the aromas occurs.

Just something to think about before you mix loose Java and ACIDs in the same humidor/tupperware.

The Javas have a strong scent, I would absolutely keep them on their own, or at least divided and in their cellophane.

ktblunden 10-05-2011 11:51 AM

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I'll share this experience. My wife smoked infused stuff for a while and had her own tupperware for them. As soon as you took the lid off the room would fill with fruity smells. If the scent could fill the room just by taking the lid off I have to imagine it would impart quite a bit of flavor on non-infused cigars sitting in an enclosed space together for long periods of time. Best not to chance it, especially with tupperware being as cheap as it is.

never_enough 10-10-2011 09:47 PM

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I am reading through this whole thread (on page 40 right now) and am enjoying all the info.

Quick question...Why are people down on infused cigars? I have yet to try one, but will soon. Just seems like they have a bad stigma sometimes.

Sorry if this was asked in the 36 pages I have yet to read!

Bill86 10-10-2011 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by never_enough (Post 1435974)
I am reading through this whole thread (on page 40 right now) and am enjoying all the info.

Quick question...Why are people down on infused cigars? I have yet to try one, but will soon. Just seems like they have a bad stigma sometimes.

Sorry if this was asked in the 36 pages I have yet to read!

What from I've seen the construction on the Java's is VERY suspect. I've seen some VERY underfilled Java's. Boxes of them too, like 4-5 boxes with each stick being so spongy you could pinch the stick between your fingers and they would touch without damaging the wrapper.

Acids smell like a perfume shop. You need a separate humidor for them.

Many people have had some VERY nasty Acids. Mac and the Kuba Kuba Maduro come to mind. You know it's gotta be bad when Mac puts down a Maduro.

But try them if you like, to each his own. Smoke what you like.

:2

never_enough 10-10-2011 10:33 PM

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I actually wanted to buy a Java to try and found the same problem with the box they had.

And I plan on trying everything that I can. Its like when I started exploring different beers. I would have missed out on some ones I really liked if I would have listened to others saying to stay away.

Bill86 10-10-2011 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by never_enough (Post 1436026)
I actually wanted to buy a Java to try and found the same problem with the box they had.

And I plan on trying everything that I can. Its like when I started exploring different beers. I would have missed out on some ones I really liked if I would have listened to others saying to stay away.

Well you certainly make a point there. I remember hearing some off putting things about certain beers. "This one tastes like a warhead, really sour" and you know what it did, sour as hell but worth trying once. I wouldn't buy it again though :D Someone told me Arrogant Bastard was impossible to finish, thankfully I was an Arrogant Bastard and finished it with ease. They were so confident they didn't even charge me for my first bomber :banger

Cigars, eh somehow very quickly I found out what I like. So I stick with that now.

But yeah the Java's are so underfilled it's not even funny. I would just do the best you can to research the infused cigars, many people claim there are a few very good ones. Just gotta look them up.

I'd smoke them at a B&M though, don't want to have to buy multiple humidors and humidifiers for cigars you might not even like.

emopunker2004 10-10-2011 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill86 (Post 1435978)
What from I've seen the construction on the Java's is VERY suspect. I've seen some VERY underfilled Java's. Boxes of them too, like 4-5 boxes with each stick being so spongy you could pinch the stick between your fingers and they would touch without damaging the wrapper.

Acids smell like a perfume shop. You need a separate humidor for them.

Many people have had some VERY nasty Acids. Mac and the Kuba Kuba Maduro come to mind. You know it's gotta be bad when Mac puts down a Maduro.

But try them if you like, to each his own. Smoke what you like.

:2

Bill the Tabak Especial line from DE are well constructed and the cigars I first smoked. They are coffee infused and quite good.

never_enough 10-10-2011 10:47 PM

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I love drinking some arrogant bastard every now and then. Free beer? Now THAT is awesome.

My plan for the infused ones will be to just pick up a couple at a time from a store around here. Just moved 1000 miles from home so I need to find some good places first.

Everything else I am just going to buy samplers so I can try a wide range of cigars faster. No boxes for me yet.

Also, what is the more preferred lighter? single or multi flame?

icehog3 10-10-2011 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by never_enough (Post 1436047)
Also, what is the more preferred lighter? single or multi flame?

Like cigars and beers, it's a personal preference. I much prefer a single flame myself.

T.G 10-10-2011 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by never_enough (Post 1436047)
Also, what is the more preferred lighter? single or multi flame?

Whatever works best for you. Some prefer matches, some soft flames, some single flame torches, some multi-flames. In the big picture, it doesn't matter much. Find what you like and run with it.

icehog3 10-10-2011 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by T.G (Post 1436088)
Whatever works best for you. Some prefer matches, some soft flames, some single flame torches, some multi-flames. In the big picture, it doesn't matter much. Find what you like and run with it.

Sounds mysteriously like "personal preference", Adam. :r

never_enough 10-10-2011 11:30 PM

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Thanks for the answers. I'm sure I will have many more questions.

T.G 10-10-2011 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1436093)
Sounds mysteriously like "personal preference", Adam. :r

You cut me Tom. You cut me deep.
:sad

icehog3 10-10-2011 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by T.G (Post 1436110)
You cut me Tom. You cut me deep.
:sad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0aYrwCFb3A :D

gbum 10-11-2011 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1436113)

thanks to you i cannot stop listening this song over and over again...:sl

>>i raise u with this<<
-(P

Blak Smyth 10-11-2011 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by never_enough (Post 1436026)
I actually wanted to buy a Java to try and found the same problem with the box they had.

And I plan on trying everything that I can. Its like when I started exploring different beers. I would have missed out on some ones I really liked if I would have listened to others saying to stay away.

I would recommend the DE Opulence 3, it has amazing construction, burn and smoke output. I must admit the smell it puts out is captivating. While I don't smoke infused anymore, I don't mind if somebody else is smoking an O3 while I am nearbye. It is the only infused cigar I would consider smoking again. I would give pretty much any other one away to a non-smoker or female.

emopunker2004 10-11-2011 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Blak Smyth (Post 1436295)
I would recommend the DE Opulence 3, it has amazing construction, burn and smoke output. I must admit the smell it puts out is captivating. While I don't smoke infused anymore, I don't mind if somebody else is smoking an O3 while I am nearbye. It is the only infused cigar I would consider smoking again. I would give pretty much any other one away to a non-smoker or female.

never had one but i want to try one one of these days if i see one in a B&M

Whee 10-11-2011 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by T.G (Post 1436110)
You cut me Tom. You cut me deep.
:sad

Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1436113)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-dr-Ao5Gmo

never_enough 10-11-2011 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Blak Smyth (Post 1436295)
I would recommend the DE Opulence 3, it has amazing construction, burn and smoke output. I must admit the smell it puts out is captivating. While I don't smoke infused anymore, I don't mind if somebody else is smoking an O3 while I am nearbye. It is the only infused cigar I would consider smoking again. I would give pretty much any other one away to a non-smoker or female.

Sounds great. I was just reading a review that said similar things. I will add it to my list for when I go to the store this week.:tu

manny 10-12-2011 07:09 PM

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The above just about hits it on the head, however, with smoking a cigar or whatever, the length of the finish usually refers to how long the aftertaste of the tobacco and other nuances remain with you, after the smoke has ended. An example would be that, after smoking a mild cigar, such as a Gispert, the after taste may remain with you for 15, 30, maybe even 45 minutes, however, after smoking a truly full bodied cigar, such as an Opus-X, the after taste may actually be with you for several hours, and in some cases even longer![/QUOTE

After every smoke. I usually have an after taste that last for hours. Is it me or the cigar. I don't think all the cigars Ihave smoked are full bodied.

SteelCityBoy 10-12-2011 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Blak Smyth (Post 1436295)
I would recommend the DE Opulence 3, it has amazing construction, burn and smoke output. I must admit the smell it puts out is captivating. While I don't smoke infused anymore, I don't mind if somebody else is smoking an O3 while I am nearbye. It is the only infused cigar I would consider smoking again. I would give pretty much any other one away to a non-smoker or female.

I second this notion:tu

The Acid O3 is probably the only infused cigar I will smoke and I must admit they smell great and taste great. Try it for yourself and see what ya think! I think some of the folks on here that don't like the Acid line may even side with me on this one:2

WittyUserName 10-12-2011 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by manny (Post 1438520)
The above just about hits it on the head, however, with smoking a cigar or whatever, the length of the finish usually refers to how long the aftertaste of the tobacco and other nuances remain with you, after the smoke has ended. An example would be that, after smoking a mild cigar, such as a Gispert, the after taste may remain with you for 15, 30, maybe even 45 minutes, however, after smoking a truly full bodied cigar, such as an Opus-X, the after taste may actually be with you for several hours, and in some cases even longer!

After every smoke. I usually have an after taste that last for hours. Is it me or the cigar. I don't think all the cigars Ihave smoked are full bodied.

I do not think it is you. I make sure to brush my teeth and then use mouth wash.

bobarian 10-12-2011 07:32 PM

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I usually just light another cigar. Voila, no aftertaste. :sh
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CigarNut 10-13-2011 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by bobarian (Post 1438560)
I usually just light another cigar. Voila, no aftertaste. :sh
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Bob is wise!

Blak Smyth 10-14-2011 05:27 AM

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I just purchased a bundle of 20 Nic 3000s. Should I unwrap the bundle in my coolidor or can I just leave it sealed in the original packaging in my cooler?

pnoon 10-14-2011 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Blak Smyth (Post 1440132)
I just purchased a bundle of 20 Nic 3000s. Should I unwrap the bundle in my coolidor or can I just leave it sealed in the original packaging in my cooler?

Doesn't matter. Personal preference.

Blak Smyth 10-14-2011 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 1440136)
Doesn't matter. Personal preference.

Okay thanks, I prefer to leave it in the wrapper then.:tu
I had a few unjust concerns over analyzing again I am sure!

never_enough 10-15-2011 10:21 PM

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How important is it to buy a nicer cutter? I haven't smoked a lot, but I have never had an issue with cheaper ones.

Bill86 10-15-2011 10:22 PM

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If whatever cutter you are using gets the job done nice and cleanly.....not very important.

If you're tearing wrappers and cracking caps, probably much more important.

never_enough 10-15-2011 10:26 PM

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Sweet. $30 more bucks towards cigars.

emopunker2004 10-15-2011 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill86 (Post 1442161)
If whatever cutter you are using gets the job done nice and cleanly.....not very important.

If you're tearing wrappers and cracking caps, probably much more important.

The CA drunk has spoken

T.G 10-15-2011 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by never_enough (Post 1442159)
How important is it to buy a nicer cutter? I haven't smoked a lot, but I have never had an issue with cheaper ones.


The biggest issue that I've found with some of the cheaper cutters is that the blades dull very quickly, resulting in ragged cuts, cracked or torn wrappers and in extreme cases, partially crushed cigars. Sometimes the blades spread apart from each other meaning that when you cut a cigar, you get a ridge of tobacco where the blades meet. Now, some of them don't develop these issues very quickly, while others do.

So I would say, when you feel that you want one, are sick of the cheap cutter, or you feel that you are dulling the cheap cutters and don't want to deal with them anymore.

I know people who have been smoking for over a decade and they still just buy the $1.50 cutters from CI/JR/Famous, and just have all these cheap cutters lying around everywhere.

It's all personal preference.

never_enough 10-15-2011 10:46 PM

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I want to get one, but since I'm just starting out I would rather spend the money on cigars so I can find what I like. Once I start smoking on a regular basis then I will get a good one. That's my plan anyways now

pnoon 10-16-2011 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1442166)
The CA drunk has spoken

This is not a banter thread. Let's keep it that way.

kydsid 10-16-2011 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by never_enough (Post 1442159)
How important is it to buy a nicer cutter? I haven't smoked a lot, but I have never had an issue with cheaper ones.


I'd like to add that when you do decide to spend money on a good cutter ONLY buy one with a lifetime warranty.

gbum 10-16-2011 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by kydsid (Post 1442359)
I'd like to add that when you do decide to spend money on a good cutter ONLY buy one with a lifetime warranty.

should change it to expensive... then make sense:D

manny 10-16-2011 08:15 AM

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Should you/Can you dip the butt of your cigar into your drink, ie Cuban coffee , whyskey etc. I enjoy doing it with a nice cafecito .

kydsid 10-16-2011 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by manny (Post 1442368)
Should you/Can you dip the butt of your cigar into your drink, ie Cuban coffee , whyskey etc. I enjoy doing it with a nice cafecito .



Sure you can, if you like it don't worry about what outhers think. I haven't tried coffee but I have dipped cigars in brandy and whiskey.

never_enough 10-16-2011 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by kydsid (Post 1442359)
I'd like to add that when you do decide to spend money on a good cutter ONLY buy one with a lifetime warranty.

Thanks for the heads up. Didn't know you could buy one with a lifetime warranty.

never_enough 10-16-2011 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by manny (Post 1442368)
Should you/Can you dip the butt of your cigar into your drink, ie Cuban coffee , whyskey etc. I enjoy doing it with a nice cafecito .

You can if you want. I have a few friends that always dip their cigar in bourbon.

MrClean 10-17-2011 07:01 PM

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I did some searching and really didn't see a specific answer to this question. I think I know the answer, but I'd like someone to confirm it.

Up until this week I've only purchased single sticks and fiver's. Basically this week I'm doubling what is in my humidor. I just put 10 sticks in and another 20 will go in later this week. I'm assuming I'll see a drop in the humidity with a increase of the number of sticks in the humi. How long does it normally take for things to stabilize generally speaking? I know things vary for each situation but can I expect a week, or a month for things to get back to normal. I do put all new sticks through the freezer cycle.

Ismith75 10-17-2011 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MrClean (Post 1444027)
I did some searching and really didn't see a specific answer to this question. I think I know the answer, but I'd like someone to confirm it.

Up until this week I've only purchased single sticks and fiver's. Basically this week I'm doubling what is in my humidor. I just put 10 sticks in and another 20 will go in later this week. I'm assuming I'll see a drop in the humidity with a increase of the number of sticks in the humi. How long does it normally take for things to stabilize generally speaking? I know things vary for each situation but can I expect a week, or a month for things to get back to normal. I do put all new sticks through the freezer cycle.

What are you using to humidify your sticks?

T.G 10-17-2011 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MrClean (Post 1444027)
I did some searching and really didn't see a specific answer to this question. I think I know the answer, but I'd like someone to confirm it.

Up until this week I've only purchased single sticks and fiver's. Basically this week I'm doubling what is in my humidor. I just put 10 sticks in and another 20 will go in later this week. I'm assuming I'll see a drop in the humidity with a increase of the number of sticks in the humi. How long does it normally take for things to stabilize generally speaking? I know things vary for each situation but can I expect a week, or a month for things to get back to normal. I do put all new sticks through the freezer cycle.

Depending how moist the newly added cigars are, your humidity could actually go up. Quite a few US online vendors ship their cigars a bit on the humid side or right at 70% so that they don't dry out in transit. Usually what this means is that they are still a bit "wet" when you get them.

No real set answer for how long it will take your humidor to come up or down to your preferred humidity as there are way too many variables.

All that really matters though is how the cigars are smoking. If you like how they are smoking, then it doesn't matter if the RH is a bit different from what you are accustomed to seeing on your hygrometer.

MrClean 10-18-2011 04:15 AM

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Thanks for the answers, that makes sense. I use HCM beads, they've been great and my RH would only flucate when I opened and closed the lid a bunch. Wasn't sure what to expect when adding a bunch of sticks, but now I have a good idea. Thanks again guys!

irratebass 10-25-2011 04:53 PM

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Help help! What am I am I doing wrong? I went to count my sticks (136 right now) and the ones that were not in cello were very hard. The others were ok. I added some gel stuff to my humidification decvice....my hygrometers battery is dead and I need to get some more, have I screwed up? Are my sticks beyond repair?

icehog3 10-25-2011 05:32 PM

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How long since your hygrometer worked, Mickey?

irratebass 10-25-2011 05:33 PM

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Last week it was still reading at 68%

icehog3 10-25-2011 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by irratebass (Post 1453192)
Last week it was still reading at 68%

Then there is no way you caused fatal harm to your cigars, Mickey.

irratebass 10-25-2011 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1453193)
Then there is no way you caused fatal harm to your cigars, Mickey.

But they are so hard.....I went ahead and put them in some 5 finger bags hoping to fix them, its about 12 cigars....how do I rectify this? Also how do I make sure it doesn't happen again, I was horrified!

icehog3 10-25-2011 05:40 PM

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Working hygrometer, beads, and loving care. :)


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