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HK3- 02-14-2016 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Chainsaw13 (Post 2075030)
That's beautiful Hal.

My new Savage 20ga should be here Tuesday. :wo
Which one did you get Bob?

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Originally Posted by Remo (Post 2075033)
Like a Cartel boss, Hal :)
Lol

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Originally Posted by bonjing (Post 2075068)
That's nice, Hal! What do you have behind that Colt?
It's a Kimber sapphire in 9mm

Chainsaw13 02-14-2016 06:48 AM
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Savage 220, 20ga bolt action slug gun. I'm going to be hunting in a shotgun zone this year, with the potential of 150-200 yard shots. Everything I've read says the Savage is up to the task.

Chainsaw13 02-14-2016 06:48 AM
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Also found a great deal on gunbroker for a Leupold Ultimateslam scope for it.

HK3- 02-14-2016 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Chainsaw13 (Post 2075089)
Savage 220, 20ga bolt action slug gun. I'm going to be hunting in a shotgun zone this year, with the potential of 150-200 yard shots. Everything I've read says the Savage is up to the task.
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Originally Posted by Chainsaw13 (Post 2075091)
Also found a great deal on gunbroker for a Leupold Ultimateslam scope for it.
Very cool! I didn't hunt here in Michigan this past deer season but Im learning that you can hunt with a rifle but it has to be in a pistol caliber??? Guessing this is to prevent stray long traveling projectiles.

Slug guns are pretty wicked. I've always lived somewhere where we could use rifles or buckshot so I've never owned a real slug gun. I've used the old sabots or pumpkin balls a long time ago but I recall them being not very accurate compared to a rifled slug barrel.

Chainsaw13 02-14-2016 05:35 PM
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Yea, you can use any straight walled cartridge as long as it's 1.8 in case length or less. At least that's what I've been told.

Researching the Savage, lots of guys in MI have them and love it. Was at Cabela's today and got a couple different boxes of Hornady's for it. Wanted Remington Accutip, but no 20ga on the shelves. :(

The line for gun sales was crazy.

Flynnster 02-14-2016 06:08 PM
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If any of yall are bass fishers, the Bass Pro sale going on right now is actually pretty great. I'm more of an online shopper but they had some great deals. Stocked up on Zoom plastics at 25% off, tons of hardbaits on markdown, and some great sales plus rebates on line.

HK3- 02-16-2016 06:24 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chainsaw13 (Post 2075164)
Yea, you can use any straight walled cartridge as long as it's 1.8 in case length or less. At least that's what I've been told.

Researching the Savage, lots of guys in MI have them and love it. Was at Cabela's today and got a couple different boxes of Hornady's for it. Wanted Remington Accutip, but no 20ga on the shelves. :(

The line for gun sales was crazy.
Cool. I will look at my local shop for your Remington Accutip in 20ga, Correct?

Chainsaw13 02-16-2016 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by HK3- (Post 2075337)
Cool. I will look at my local shop for your Remington Accutip in 20ga, Correct?
Yup. Its not cheap. i found some at Dunhams yesterday. $16 a box/5. But then Dunham's not the cheapest when it comes to ammo.

dijit 02-16-2016 04:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bonjing (Post 2075068)
That's nice, Hal! What do you have behind that Colt?
It looks like a Kimber

Remo 02-16-2016 04:49 PM
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Cleaned my rifle up today :tu

Chainsaw13 02-16-2016 05:21 PM
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Got my shotgun today. Time to mount the scope then bore site it.

Remo 02-16-2016 05:34 PM
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Nice one Bob :tu

matt0278 02-16-2016 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Remo (Post 2075425)
Attachment 16583

Cleaned my rifle up today :tu
Mike, have you had any problem with your EOTECH holding zero? They downed all of ours after the lawsuit. Looks like we're going with aimpoint for now. Mine nave gave me any issues, but they were concerned about liability. I've beat the hell out of it for years and it held zero like a champ.

Remo 02-16-2016 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by matt0278 (Post 2075444)
Mike, have you had any problem with your EOTECH holding zero? They downed all of ours after the lawsuit. Looks like we're going with aimpoint for now. Mine nave gave me any issues, but they were concerned about liability. I've beat the hell out of it for years and it held zero like a champ.
No issues with mine, i'll see this spring when I get back on the range, but I don't expect any issues.

HK3- 02-17-2016 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Chainsaw13 (Post 2075342)
Yup. Its not cheap. i found some at Dunhams yesterday. $16 a box/5. But then Dunham's not the cheapest when it comes to ammo.
Stopped off at the same place and it was the same price as yours. I will check some of the other smaller shops around or see if my Wally World has it for any less than $16.

Blueface 02-20-2016 12:53 PM
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Saw this the other day and thought it was quite interesting.
Glad I have that Glock 21 as my go to bedroom/home defense weapon of choice.

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...e9e6fdfaac.jpg

HK3- 02-23-2016 04:14 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chainsaw13 (Post 2075342)
Yup. Its not cheap. i found some at Dunhams yesterday. $16 a box/5. But then Dunham's not the cheapest when it comes to ammo.
Found it at Meijer for $12.99 Bob. Not great but definitely better.

Chainsaw13 02-23-2016 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by HK3- (Post 2076442)
Found it at Meijer for $12.99 Bob. Not great but definitely better.
I'll be on the look out. I was going to check Wallyworld, but I just can't force myself to go into that store more than once a month. And i was just there.

TNT009 02-24-2016 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 2076091)
Saw this the other day and thought it was quite interesting.
Glad I have that Glock 21 as my go to bedroom/home defense weapon of choice.

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...e9e6fdfaac.jpg
So many variables with that... I've seen .45s bounce off skull and guy lived, but a .22 pierce the skull and scramble the brain. I know my wife couldn't handle the .45, but rocks the 9.

nutcracker 02-24-2016 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by TNT009 (Post 2076624)
So many variables with that... I've seen .45s bounce off skull and guy lived, but a .22 pierce the skull and scramble the brain. I know my wife couldn't handle the .45, but rocks the 9.
Wound ballistics is actually quite complex - the injury is a factor of the kinetic energy imparted - which in turn in determined as follows:

mass x velocity (squared) at entry - mass x velocity (squared) at exit.

Hence a relatively small round from a high velocity rifle is devastating. In an operational area I treated deceptively small wounds from AK47 rounds that had caused devastating injuries. (There are of course 50 cal rounds that would pretty much take your head off.) Military rounds often don't have much "yaw" and "tumble", but a lower velocity round can be manipulated to do all kinds of gyrations based on bullet design. A 9mm can do a whole lot of hurt.

Obviously where you strike your intended victim is also important, and I'm sure you LE guys could advise us, but the percentage shot in my book is two in the torso. I'm far less likely to miss!

In a "domestic setting" with a handgun,- I guess you want to stop someone cold - so I suppose the biggest you can handle would be my rule of thumb.

Personally I think a nice semi auto shotgun would settle most disputes.

Remo 02-24-2016 01:10 PM
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I am with Neil, shotguns for most applications :tu A good .223 is always a nice option also. I carry 9mm and .45 for handguns and a pocket .380, I figure any gun in hand is better than one in your car.

Dave128 02-24-2016 01:18 PM
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I'm seriously considering a pistol permit. I'm pretty sure an intruder isn't going to wait around for me to get and load my shotgun.

Remo 02-24-2016 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave128 (Post 2076682)
I'm seriously considering a pistol permit. I'm pretty sure an intruder isn't going to wait around for me to get and load my shotgun.
Dave,

You could move to America and the you wouldn't need a permit to have a handgun.

Dave128 02-24-2016 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Remo (Post 2076687)
Dave,

You could move to America and the you wouldn't need a permit to have a handgun.
I'm sure you're reply is in jest, but I'm still not sure I follow the intended joke?

bonjing 02-24-2016 02:25 PM
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I think he was referring to New York's strict gun laws.

Remo 02-24-2016 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by bonjing (Post 2076696)
I think he was referring to New York's strict gun laws.
:tu

Dave128 02-24-2016 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Remo (Post 2076698)
:tu
Gotcha! :)

Remo 02-24-2016 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave128 (Post 2076692)
I'm sure you're reply is in jest, but I'm still not sure I follow the intended joke?
NY gun laws Dave.

Dave128 02-24-2016 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Remo (Post 2076704)
NY gun laws Dave.
NY gun laws suck.

bonjing 02-26-2016 03:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bonjing (Post 2076696)
I think he was referring to New York's strict gun laws.
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Originally Posted by Dave128 (Post 2076706)
NY gun laws suck.
Said the guy in California :r

G G 02-27-2016 01:05 PM
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I am about to purchase a M&P Shield in .40. My everyday carry is a S&W E series 1911 which i love. I have had a Beretta Tomcat .32 for about 10 years that I carry in my pocket once in a while. I recently got my PI license and in Florida even if you have a Concealed License (which I do) you can't carry with that license when you are working on a case. You have to get a Florida G Statewide firearms license. And you have to qualify with whatever caliber you are going to carry. Did that with the 1911, and will now have to do it with the .40. The .32 isn't an allowed caliber to carry so I figured I would get something that was on the list that is smaller (than my 1911) and I could fit in a pocket in a pinch.

Anyone have any experience with the 9 and the 40 shield? I was a little concerned that the recoil in such a small framed pistol in .40 would be snappy. Talked to a guy that has one and he said it wasn't a big deal.

I was able to get an awesome deal on one with my first responder discount. Looks like the pistol, and extra extended mag (for a total of three, it comes with two) shipped to my FFL and background check will be just a few dollars less than 400 bucks.

dijit 02-27-2016 01:30 PM
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I dont think the recoil in that frame will be a big deal to you since yu are used to the 1911. Should be pretty similar in my opinion.

Remo 02-27-2016 01:45 PM
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I have the Shield 9mm, and have yet to shoot the .40, I have heard that they are not friendly, but who knows, can you shoot one before you buy?

G G 02-27-2016 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Remo (Post 2077104)
I have the Shield 9mm, and have yet to shoot the .40, I have heard that they are not friendly, but who knows, can you shoot one before you buy?
Maybe, but I probably won't. If you gonna be stupid you gotta be tough I always say.:r

Remo 02-27-2016 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by G G (Post 2077108)
Maybe, but I probably won't. If you gonna be stupid you gotta be tough I always say.:r
You must be a tough SOB G. G :r

G G 02-27-2016 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Remo (Post 2077110)
You must be a tough SOB G. G :r
Yep.:):tf

BigBruce 02-27-2016 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by G G (Post 2077101)
I am about to purchase a M&P Shield in .40. My everyday carry is a S&W E series 1911 which i love. I have had a Beretta Tomcat .32 for about 10 years that I carry in my pocket once in a while. I recently got my PI license and in Florida even if you have a Concealed License (which I do) you can't carry with that license when you are working on a case. You have to get a Florida G Statewide firearms license. And you have to qualify with whatever caliber you are going to carry. Did that with the 1911, and will now have to do it with the .40. The .32 isn't an allowed caliber to carry so I figured I would get something that was on the list that is smaller (than my 1911) and I could fit in a pocket in a pinch.

Anyone have any experience with the 9 and the 40 shield? I was a little concerned that the recoil in such a small framed pistol in .40 would be snappy. Talked to a guy that has one and he said it wasn't a big deal.



I was able to get an awesome deal on one with my first responder discount. Looks like the pistol, and extra extended mag (for a total of three, it comes with two) shipped to my FFL and background check will be just a few dollars less than 400 bucks.

I got my shield and my ccw about the same time. I picked the shield 9mm due to cheaper rounds and more carry capacity. It is a great gun and shoots like a laser. I chose it over the xps 45.

Chewbacca 02-27-2016 05:54 PM
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Big 2A supporter here! Proud CPL holder.

My EDC pistol is a Glock 23. I carry it at 4:00 in a Crossbreed SuperTuck Deluxe.

I typically have it loaded with either Federal Guard Dogs or Winchester PDX1.

Chainsaw13 02-27-2016 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Chewbacca (Post 2077127)

My EDC pistol is a Glock 23. I carry it at 4:00 in a Crossbreed SuperTuck Deluxe.
What do you do for the other 23 hours! :lr

;s

HK3- 02-28-2016 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Chainsaw13 (Post 2077144)
What do you do for the other 23 hours! :lr

;s
:r Bob that about made me spit coffee on the monitor.

Remo 02-28-2016 05:59 AM
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Nudge Nudge GG

WaxingMoon 02-28-2016 06:43 AM
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http://i1167.photobucket.com/albums/...ps3lg3fzpt.jpg

http://i1167.photobucket.com/albums/...psjqw42pnh.jpg

http://i1167.photobucket.com/albums/...psvmrj3l8a.jpg

G G 02-28-2016 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Remo (Post 2077177)
Attachment 16632

Nudge Nudge GG
What is it? 9mm? what kind of holster is that?
Looking good Ed!!!!

G G 02-29-2016 04:24 PM
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I was able to look at a compact M&P .40 today and although I really like it, I think the extra width will be contra-indicated for the way I want to carry it.

Remo 02-29-2016 04:42 PM
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It's my 9mm shield, holster is an RDR (rounds down range) IWB

Remo 02-29-2016 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by G G (Post 2077379)
I was able to look at a compact M&P .40 today and although I really like it, I think the extra width will be contra-indicated for the way I want to carry it.
Ya, the compact would defeat the purpose!

Remo 02-29-2016 04:45 PM
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And a flat dark earth for the .45

G G 02-29-2016 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Remo (Post 2077383)
It's my 9mm shield, holster is an RDR (rounds down range) IWB
Very nice. I will check out the RDRs.
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Originally Posted by Remo (Post 2077384)
Ya, the compact would defeat the purpose!
Yeah, I really liked the way it feels in my hand but it's just too wide.
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Originally Posted by Remo (Post 2077385)
Attachment 16636

And a flat dark earth for the .45
Nice.

Drez 03-01-2016 07:39 AM
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mike got me a RDR holster for my 38 and its be great. i carry that gun 75% of the time just because of the holster.

Steve 03-01-2016 07:50 AM
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:tu

I have a couple of them, use them frequently

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Originally Posted by Drez (Post 2077456)
mike got me a RDR holster for my 38 and its be great. i carry that gun 75% of the time just because of the holster.


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