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mithrilG60 09-12-2012 12:30 PM

Re: iPhone 5
 
Watched the event, pretty much a yawn. The days of revolutionary launches with the iPhone/iPad/iPod are behind us. All 3 are mature products so the version changes will now be evolutionary instead to ensure the brand and revenue streams remain unruffled.

Big upgrade from a 3Gs, decent enough from a 4, certainly not worth it if you have a 4s....

DPD6030 09-12-2012 01:25 PM

Re: iPhone 5
 
Most likely going to upgrade from the 3gs to the 5 since the 5 is $199 for the 16gb and that's all I really need.

chaase321 09-12-2012 01:40 PM

Re: iPhone 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DPD6030 (Post 1715219)
Most likely going to upgrade from the 3gs to the 5 since the 5 is $199 for the 16gb and that's all I really need.

This ^ but not until December.

Blak Smyth 09-12-2012 02:48 PM

Re: iPhone 5
 
Yah I was extremely underwhelmed and will wait to see what tech geeks say once they get their hands on it. I am not impressed currently and am considering going to a Samsung or other new device. I am an iPhone whore or have been until now, but will wait until I see more.

mithrilG60 09-12-2012 03:01 PM

Re: iPhone 5
 
meh, it is what it is. There's nothing particularly revolutionary about any of the new Droid phones either. They are all rectangular devices with glass faces that can place phone calls, provide internet/navigational services and act as a gaming platform.

Apple's realised that the mobile device field has matured to the same point as the PC market in many ways.... it's target customer doesn't care about the technical specs of their phone just as they don't really care what the proc speed and ram cache level is of their PC; they care about apps, familiarity, branding and that it just works when they want it to. That's what the iDevices will be about for the next several generations. Droid hardware makers will continue appealing to the techno-geeks like they always have by claiming the latest and greatest hardware. but Droid itself will soon too realize that all the hardware on the market is now so advanced that it's almost immaterial to the phone experience.

longknocker 09-12-2012 05:13 PM

Re: iPhone 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aich75013 (Post 1715184)
Pricing (with contract):
16GB $199
32GB $299
64GB $399

Pre-order the 14th. Shipping starts the 21st.

4 Free w/ contract
4S $99 w/ contract

Thanks, Brother!:):tu

Chainsaw13 09-12-2012 06:18 PM

Re: iPhone 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mithrilG60 (Post 1715267)
meh, it is what it is. There's nothing particularly revolutionary about any of the new Droid phones either. They are all rectangular devices with glass faces that can place phone calls, provide internet/navigational services and act as a gaming platform.

Apple's realised that the mobile device field has matured to the same point as the PC market in many ways.... it's target customer doesn't care about the technical specs of their phone just as they don't really care what the proc speed and ram cache level is of their PC; they care about apps, familiarity, branding and that it just works when they want it to. That's what the iDevices will be about for the next several generations. Droid hardware makers will continue appealing to the techno-geeks like they always have by claiming the latest and greatest hardware. but Droid itself will soon too realize that all the hardware on the market is now so advanced that it's almost immaterial to the phone experience.

Very nice summary. I have a 4 and thought about upgrading IF the new 5 was a big step beyond what I currently have. I just don't see it. Since I bought my iPad I use the phone less so the 5 needed to really to offer a lot more than it has. That's ok, more money left for cigars.

floydpink 09-12-2012 06:55 PM

Re: iPhone 5
 
I've got a couple offers for $200 for my current iPhone 4, so I will be getting a free upgrade and definitely see benefits in the 5 over the 4, like faster processor and bigger screen.

Nothing overly exciting, but enough to make me jump.

mithrilG60 09-12-2012 07:33 PM

Re: iPhone 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chainsaw13 (Post 1715327)
Very nice summary. I have a 4 and thought about upgrading IF the new 5 was a big step beyond what I currently have. I just don't see it. Since I bought my iPad I use the phone less so the 5 needed to really to offer a lot more than it has. That's ok, more money left for cigars.

I bought my wife and I 4s' at full retail from the AppleStore last year. We both travel internationally a couple times a year so being able to buy and use local SIM's wherever we are is huge, the Vodaphone kiosk will be the first or second stop in the Auckland airport this Sunday for example. We're both due for a contract renewal next Feb and unless they're given to us free there's zero advantage to paying $200 for a carrier-locked iPhone 5. If thry're free I'll take them and sell them on Craigslist and continue to use our 4s'.

Taki 09-12-2012 08:10 PM

Re: iPhone 5
 
Couldn't agree more with what the last few posts have said....just expected more :sad

Sauer Grapes 09-12-2012 08:41 PM

Re: iPhone 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mithrilG60 (Post 1715199)
Watched the event, pretty much a yawn. The days of revolutionary launches with the iPhone/iPad/iPod are behind us. All 3 are mature products so the version changes will now be evolutionary instead to ensure the brand and revenue streams remain unruffled.

Big upgrade from a 3Gs, decent enough from a 4, certainly not worth it if you have a 4s....

Quote:

Originally Posted by floydpink (Post 1715365)
I've got a couple offers for $200 for my current iPhone 4, so I will be getting a free upgrade and definitely see benefits in the 5 over the 4, like faster processor and bigger screen.

Nothing overly exciting, but enough to make me jump.

Pete has it correct. We will get our phones factory unlocked (the wife's 4 and my 4s) and then sell them to pay for most of the upgrade, if not in its entirety.

As long as you can get the subsidized price and you don't mind the contract extension, you can pretty much do the same every time. I'm more or less still using the same money I used for the original iPhone.

BHalbrooks 09-12-2012 11:15 PM

Re: iPhone 5
 
I'm buying my Wife an iPhone for Christmas (With my upgrade since she let me use hers to get my iPhone.) I'm really glad that the 5 came out, because it dropped the price of the 4s, which is what she's getting. No use in getting her the newest, because she honestly doesn't give a ****. Plus, I can buy her more this way... and by that I mean Cigars for myself.

emopunker2004 09-13-2012 03:15 AM

Re: iPhone 5
 
On the bright side, iOS6 comes out next Wednesday for everyone else :D

irratebass 09-13-2012 04:00 AM

Re: iPhone 5
 
I watched this today

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/upgrade-...76.html?_esi=1

Blak Smyth 09-13-2012 07:12 AM

Re: iPhone 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by irratebass (Post 1715504)

This quote pretty much summed up my feelings:
"Wow, welcome to 2011 Apple. LTE capable! 4 inch screen! That's awesome!"

CigarNut 09-13-2012 07:55 AM

Re: iPhone 5
 
I am really looking forward to ugrading my 4 to a 5! I am looking forward to the new screen, lighter, slimmer, faster phone.

As for 4G/LTE that is still a myth for most of us. If you look at true 4G/LTE coverage for all carriers you'll find that it is pretty spotty. Most of have 3G and will have 3G for a long time... I will want 4G when it is ubiquitous enough to make a difference for me...

Blak Smyth 09-13-2012 08:04 AM

Re: iPhone 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CigarNut (Post 1715600)
I am really looking forward to ugrading my 4 to a 5! I am looking forward to the new screen, lighter, slimmer, faster phone.

As for 4G/LTE that is still a myth for most of us. If you look at true 4G/LTE coverage for all carriers you'll find that it is pretty spotty. Most of have 3G and will have 3G for a long time... I will want 4G when it is ubiquitous enough to make a difference for me...

I live in the middle of nowhere and we have AT&T & Verizon 4G since a couple months ago. Maybe because we are about an hour from Philly?

I am growing more fond of the new iPhone the more I look at the Galaxy 3S. While I love the screen size more on the Galaxy, I hate the droid OS. I suppose the OS is more important to me than screen size overall. I will come around Michael!

MurphysLaw 09-13-2012 08:27 AM

Re: iPhone 5
 
I'm looking forward to upgrading from the 4 to 5 as well. I've had my 4 since the day before the launch and recently my battery life has went way down. I'll put my 4 up for sale once I have the new phone in hand and probably recoup most of what it costs me to upgrade.

CigarNut 09-13-2012 09:37 AM

Re: iPhone 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MurphysLaw (Post 1715612)
I'm looking forward to upgrading from the 4 to 5 as well. I've had my 4 since the day before the launch and recently my battery life has went way down. I'll put my 4 up for sale once I have the new phone in hand and probably recoup most of what it costs me to upgrade.

I found a site that will buy my iPhone 4 from me -- http://www.gazelle.com

They will give me $220 for it. My phone is a little less than 3 months old (new warranty replacement).

Blak Smyth 09-13-2012 09:39 AM

Re: iPhone 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CigarNut (Post 1715651)
I found a site that will buy my iPhone 4 from me -- http://www.gazelle.com

They will give me $220 for it. My phone is a little less than 3 months old (new warranty replacement).

They will only give me $50 for my 4 due to a small crack on one of the corners.

MurphysLaw 09-13-2012 09:45 AM

Re: iPhone 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CigarNut (Post 1715651)
I found a site that will buy my iPhone 4 from me -- http://www.gazelle.com

They will give me $220 for it. My phone is a little less than 3 months old (new warranty replacement).

They offered 163 for mine :tu I might try to get an even 200 cash listing it on CL

lilninjabuddy 09-13-2012 09:47 AM

Re: iPhone 5
 
Shoot, Shane... I'll give you $50 for it!


For me, that's actually the realy benefit of the iphone 5.... I'll be able to upgrade my wife to an iPhone 4 or 4s for less than I could last month.

I'll probably stick with the 3gs until it dies. Which might not be too long here, actually...

Blak Smyth 09-13-2012 09:55 AM

Re: iPhone 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lilninjabuddy (Post 1715658)
Shoot, Shane... I'll give you $50 for it!


For me, that's actually the realy benefit of the iphone 5.... I'll be able to upgrade my wife to an iPhone 4 or 4s for less than I could last month.

I'll probably stick with the 3gs until it dies. Which might not be too long here, actually...

I would rather sell it to you than them, I will let you know if I decide to upgrade. I would think you may want to find a better phone than mine though, I have had it for over tow years and I didn't use a case for a long time. I thought I heard the 4S would be as low as $99 though soon?

lilninjabuddy 09-13-2012 09:59 AM

Re: iPhone 5
 
ok, well I'm a cheapskate so lmk! ;)

Any of you guys with a 4s in good shape, I'd be willing to match what that site is willing to pay.

mosesbotbol 09-13-2012 10:28 AM

Re: iPhone 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lilninjabuddy (Post 1715671)
ok, well I'm a cheapskate so lmk! ;)

Any of you guys with a 4s in good shape, I'd be willing to match what that site is willing to pay.

Same here; 4 or 4s... Send me a PM. Must be factory unlocked.

irratebass 09-13-2012 11:06 AM

Re: iPhone 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MurphysLaw (Post 1715654)
They offered 163 for mine :tu I might try to get an even 200 cash listing it on CL

They offered me $234, but I am not selling....I was just curious to see what it was worth, have only had since March. I am very happy with mine.

mmblz 09-13-2012 12:16 PM

Re: iPhone 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mithrilG60 (Post 1715267)
it's target customer doesn't care about the technical specs of their phone just as they don't really care what the proc speed and ram cache level is of their PC;

i don't follow. iPhone 5 basically is just incremental bumps to various specs - screen size, thinness, battery life, speed... functionally though, it's hardly different than the last go around...

seems to me that the only reason to release this is if customers DO care about specs...

kelmac07 09-13-2012 12:30 PM

Re: iPhone 5
 
Offered $ 286 for my 4S...but I'm very happy with it.

CigarNut 09-13-2012 01:38 PM

Re: iPhone 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kelmac07 (Post 1715734)
Offered $ 286 for my 4S...but I'm very happy with it.

If you don't mind me asking -- what did you pay for it?

I paid $299 for my 4 in June 2010 and I am getting $220 for it. Excluding contract extensions I used my iPhone 4 for 2 1/4 years for $79 -- a little less than $3/month -- a great deal.

I am seriously thinking about trading in my wife's 4S as well -- she can get $248 for hers. She paid $299 -- so that cost her about $4/month. The advantage to this is that we would have all the same cables -- a big deal when we travel.

GTsetGO 09-13-2012 02:18 PM

Re: iPhone 5
 
Just announced, the Iphone 10

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/n...Igjpglarge.jpg

King James 09-13-2012 03:04 PM

Re: iPhone 5
 
Nice review

kelmac07 09-13-2012 03:56 PM

Re: iPhone 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CigarNut (Post 1715761)
If you don't mind me asking -- what did you pay for it?

I paid $299 for my 4 in June 2010 and I am getting $220 for it. Excluding contract extensions I used my iPhone 4 for 2 1/4 years for $79 -- a little less than $3/month -- a great deal.

I am seriously thinking about trading in my wife's 4S as well -- she can get $248 for hers. She paid $299 -- so that cost her about $4/month. The advantage to this is that we would have all the same cables -- a big deal when we travel.

Michael...paid $ 399 for mine with a 2 year plan...the 64GB version.

mithrilG60 09-13-2012 05:26 PM

Re: iPhone 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mmblz (Post 1715730)
i don't follow. iPhone 5 basically is just incremental bumps to various specs - screen size, thinness, battery life, speed... functionally though, it's hardly different than the last go around...

seems to me that the only reason to release this is if customers DO care about specs...

lol, the real reason to release this is because Apple needs to keep their revenue stream stable and growing. Make a couple minor changes that don't really matter so you've got something to spin in the marketing and Bob's your uncle.

The average customer has zero idea what half those buzzwords really mean, and they can't necessarily tell the difference between the one's they do recognize. People are will buy this iPhone because it's new and many held off on upgrading from the 4 to the 4s because like the 4s to 5 it was a very incremental upgrade.

I realize this is pure comedy and probably staged for effect, but last night's Jimmy Kimmel sums the average smartphone buyer perfectly. This is why I say hardware specs are pretty much irrelevant now:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=rdIWKytq_q4

Chainsaw13 09-13-2012 05:38 PM

Re: iPhone 5
 
That's funny Goeff.

Steelerfanatic 09-13-2012 08:14 PM

Re: iPhone 5
 
Looking for a 4 or 4s on Sprint in white. If you have one to sell or trade please let me know. Thanks!!

floydpink 09-13-2012 08:45 PM

Re: iPhone 5
 
Well, with the LTE capabilities on the new iPhone5, I should be updating my Facebook status at light speed, and I will have a 5th row of apps on the home screen, so I can fit all my Angry Birds neatly.

That alone was worth the wait.

Smokin Gator 09-14-2012 05:00 AM

Re: iPhone 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MurphysLaw (Post 1715612)
I'm looking forward to upgrading from the 4 to 5 as well. I've had my 4 since the day before the launch and recently my battery life has went way down. I'll put my 4 up for sale once I have the new phone in hand and probably recoup most of what it costs me to upgrade.

This is me...

Order in for the 5 along with a 4s for the wife:tu

Blak Smyth 09-14-2012 05:14 AM

Re: iPhone 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GTsetGO (Post 1715799)

Hahah this is funny!

blugill 09-14-2012 05:46 AM

Re: iPhone 5
 
Can't get a 5 until we are eligible for upgrades next summer.
By then the 5s will be coming close to hitting the markets.
The whole family has 4's and are pretty happy with them, we got them when the 4s came out so they became the cheap phone:) Not to mention I get a company discount for some reason through my employer which knocks a quarter off of my bill each month!

kelmac07 09-14-2012 06:05 AM

Re: iPhone 5
 
My youngest son is going out to pre-order a 5S this morning..since he's gotten himself a nice new job. I will fiddle with his...but again, I'm ver happy with my 4S.

Digs 09-14-2012 06:08 AM

Re: iPhone 5
 
I got the email this morning for he pre-buy, I went thru up the we're I needed to hit he green button to check out!!! Someome talk me down :D:D

Not sure I can make it thru the day:D

Chainsaw13 09-14-2012 06:19 AM

Re: iPhone 5
 
I got a similar email Dennis. Went to the site to just see what it would really cost me. The additional $$$ every month for "4G LTE" data was the deal breaker.

kelmac07 09-14-2012 06:26 AM

Re: iPhone 5
 
When did the data plan "fee" increase from $ 29.95 per month to $ 40??? WTF?? :bh :bh

363 09-14-2012 06:45 AM

Re: iPhone 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kelmac07 (Post 1716169)
When did the data plan "fee" increase from $ 29.95 per month to $ 40??? WTF?? :bh :bh

WHAT! I luck out and am on that share all plan for the family deal, but 40$pm better be for unlimited..

Digs 09-14-2012 10:39 AM

Re: iPhone 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chainsaw13 (Post 1716166)
I got a similar email Dennis. Went to the site to just see what it would really cost me. The additional $$$ every month for "4G LTE" data was the deal breaker.

Thru at&t mine stayed the same at $30, only cost is just phone

Taki 09-14-2012 10:47 AM

Re: iPhone 5
 
Dennis if you had Verizon you would get a huge disscount!!! The wives get a nice disscount via the hospital! I think we pay $10-$15 bucks for unlimited...

MurphysLaw 09-14-2012 11:45 AM

Re: iPhone 5
 
Pre-ordered this morning, now for the long wait for a box to come from overseas...somehow this feels very familiar :r

CigarNut 09-14-2012 01:23 PM

Re: iPhone 5
 
I just heard on the news that the preorders directly from Apple and AT&T starting at Midnight exhausted the initial supply of iPhone's by 12:30 am. Those of us that after that time will have a slightly (TBD) longer wait....

King James 09-14-2012 02:15 PM

Re: iPhone 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CigarNut (Post 1716490)
I just heard on the news that the preorders directly from Apple and AT&T starting at Midnight exhausted the initial supply of iPhone's by 12:30 am. Those of us that after that time will have a slightly (TBD) longer wait....

Apple sold out pretty quickly. There shipping estimate went from next friday to "two weeks" if you tried to pre-order after around 1:00am PST. The carriers faired a little bit better. Verizon orders as of around 6:00 or 7:00am this morning were still showing ship dates by next friday. Who knows if that was just an error by Verizon, but it appears that the carriers received less traffic of preorders.

By this point in the day, I'd think they are all gone. If you want one on launch day it may be best to wait at the store and not preorder online.

mithrilG60 09-14-2012 02:28 PM

Re: iPhone 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by King James (Post 1716518)
By this point in the day, I'd think they are all gone. If you want one on launch day it may be best to wait at the store and not preorder online.

Not sure about the US stores, but the Canadian AppleStores will only be selling the iPhone 5 to customers activating a new or renewed 3yr contract (our default carrier contract length is a year longer than in the US).


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