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kingcobradude 11-20-2011 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by boxmonkey (Post 1480478)
where did you get your chaveta? found a site selling them but seem a little high for a hunk of sharp metal.

it said he made it by one of his pics. Its not that dificult to make. ot if you dont want to buy one a metal potters rib could probably do in a pinch

CoreyD 11-20-2011 10:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by boxmonkey (Post 1480478)
where did you get your chaveta? found a site selling them but seem a little high for a hunk of sharp metal.

I paid $20 for mine and since i had tobacco coming,I was already paying shipping. I have seen them on eb sell for as low as $10 then shipping from time to time

BlkDrew 11-21-2011 02:34 AM

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Re: Taste Test
I did the review at work , I have pics that I could upload later but here is the review.

I paired off this cigar with a pot containing a Brazilian,Tazmanian blend that I home roasted with a splash of Irish Cream creamer.
This stick sat 15 days in my coolidor that is kept at a 61 humidity.
Prelight this stick was firm 3 veins appearing on wrapper 1 was a thick juicy one. The prelight aroma was fantastic a lil musty but had a great smell indeed. Was a firm stick with a hollow part on one of the sides near last 1/4.
Upon Light I found this blend easy lighting with thick white smoke coming out. It was so smooth at first I couldn't believe there was that much smoke in my mouth. It was windy outside so I had fear that it may make a run. White ringed ash now big greyish white smoke. Something in this is teasing my full body pallet. Now I enjoy mild cigars medium etc but theres something growing in the flavors each drag that tickles my curiosity and eager anticipation. Mild to medium the first 1/4.
Big smokey draws into the half. still haven't had to ash yet and still firm. Ash fell off a little under the half. I do notice a small hollow spot inside the ash as i look straight down into the cherry in a side of it. Thinking what I could compare this taste to but nothing comes to mind. Nice mellow taste great mild light medium with hint of teasing spice.
Last 1/4 really developed into a flavor that was quite exotic that is quite pleasing to the pallet. Medium flavor,great smell. Hollow side is fine and still a great burn and is smoking great. Wrapper came undone in 1 area in last 1/4 but not bad enuff that it unravelelled . No repair work needed at all on this stick during burning it up to the nub. Clients at work enjoyed the aroma as I sat and enjoyed the stick just teasing their curiosity.
My final concensus on this stick was I loved the blend, burn and what not. it was a hair under my pallet wants tonight for a full body but as a mild light medium it was quite enjoyable and this version I would not change due to the fact its nice having certain sticks for certain times of cravings and wants and I find myself thinking i'd put this stick in rotation and I have some mild/medium friends that don't partake much but would enjoy the complexity and light smooth flavor of this stick. 1 thing I can say is some parts of the flavor stayed the same but other parts changed throughout the burn.
Thank you again for the chance to try this creation,keep up the good work.
Thanks a lot. appreciate the help. I will look into the bunching portion of my rolling to make sure the dead spots (hallow spaces) are minimized.

Lanks85 11-21-2011 09:58 AM

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Awesome stuff! It really sounds like your rolling and blending are really coming together. Keep up the good work and keep us posted with all the new creations. Thanks for sharing.

BlkDrew 11-21-2011 01:00 PM

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well i got bored, and i knew i needed a press... so it was off to Tractor Supply to get some steel.

And whala

http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/y...8/IMG_0981.jpg

Crownedone 11-21-2011 07:07 PM

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My...oh...my! Got to love this guy.

BlkDrew 11-22-2011 08:50 AM

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More fun, I also made a couple Chevetas, so if anyone is looking for one.

http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/y...8/IMG_0982.jpg
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/y...8/IMG_0983.jpg

Lanks85 11-22-2011 10:08 AM

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Loving the progress Andrew! They look like beauties!

Crownedone 11-22-2011 10:28 AM

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Loving the filled box.

akumushi 11-22-2011 10:53 AM

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Great work. It's fun to see the progress you're making with rolling. :tu

kelmac07 11-22-2011 12:15 PM

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Are those two maduros in that box Andrew?

kickerb 11-22-2011 12:20 PM

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:r

Volusianator 11-22-2011 12:59 PM

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This thread is fantastic!

BTcigars 11-22-2011 01:05 PM

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Wow this is a terrific thread! Keep up the great work!

Swany 11-22-2011 01:13 PM

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The more I look at this thread, the more I want to get into it. One day......

Love the progress. Keep the pics coming.

BlkDrew 11-22-2011 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by kelmac07 (Post 1481959)
Are those two maduros in that box Andrew?

That would be correct

deadrise 11-22-2011 02:28 PM

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hahahaha I can almost hear macs :dr:dr:dr hitting the floor.
this is a very cool thread and one we all need to learn from you never know
this might be the only way to have a cigar in the future.

Mattso3000 11-22-2011 03:13 PM

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Subscribed. Great work on these, keep it up!

Brutus2600 11-24-2011 10:01 AM

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Sorry for such a delay, life sure does seem to get in the way of this hobby of ours sometimes :td lol

Anyway, finishing up the review now...I'm very impressed with not only the quality of tobacco but the construction of it as well. I think you'll like my write up :tu Thanks again for sending me a sample!

BlkDrew 11-24-2011 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Brutus2600 (Post 1483660)
Sorry for such a delay, life sure does seem to get in the way of this hobby of ours sometimes :td lol

Anyway, finishing up the review now...I'm very impressed with not only the quality of tobacco but the construction of it as well. I think you'll like my write up :tu Thanks again for sending me a sample!

waiting patiently, :tu

Sin 11-24-2011 06:56 PM

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def a hobby I could get into

Shawn hines 11-25-2011 01:34 AM

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Wow, I have been thinking of doing this for several years, but just couldn't get the nerve to do so... But I think that I may have to make a investment today.

So when you need those reviews on more sticks I would like to put my cigar club on the list, if you ship to FPO

BlkDrew 11-25-2011 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Shawn hines (Post 1484146)
Wow, I have been thinking of doing this for several years, but just couldn't get the nerve to do so... But I think that I may have to make a investment today.

So when you need those reviews on more sticks I would like to put my cigar club on the list, if you ship to FPO

If you have any questions when purchasing, I can help answer them.

I'd be more than happy to ship a couple to an FPO, just pm me an address.

Dr Voss 11-25-2011 08:42 AM

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This is a great thread, I'm just a noob and it has me interested in giving it try.

BlkDrew 11-25-2011 11:48 AM

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Thanks Brian,

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brutus2600
Initial Thoughts: The wrapper has some visible veins and is applied very well. Overall the stick looks well constructed, with only a few minor soft spots.

http://www.stogiesnbrews.com/wp-cont.../roxy/01sm.jpg

First Third: The pre-draw brings notes of cut hay and a little vanilla. After the light the first few draws bring notes of hay, roasted nuts, and some light pepper. After it settles down there are some notes of buttered toast and some earthy, woodsy notes that I’m having trouble pinning down. Some slightly sweet caramel notes are mixing in nicely with some light black pepper notes. The draw is fantastic, not too loose and not too tight, and the burn is very good too, only needing one touch up (which I’m not entirely sure wasn’t my fault when I lit the cigar). The ash is a light grey color and is a little flaky, so it only holds to about a half an inch.

http://www.stogiesnbrews.com/wp-cont.../roxy/02sm.jpg

Second Third: Starting into the second third the cigar has really calmed down and is really starting to shine. The buttered toast, sweet caramel, and pepper notes are still hanging around. The mild and creamy nature of the Dominican filler really makes this cigar.

http://www.stogiesnbrews.com/wp-cont.../roxy/03sm.jpg

Final Third: Starting in on the final third it’s calmed down a bit. More toasted almonds and sweet cream than anything else. It’s stayed mild and smooth throughout the cigar, which I’m impressed with since a lot of retail cigars don’t do that. Finishing the cigar with no bitter notes and the sweet, creamy smoke really leaves a good impression overall.

http://www.stogiesnbrews.com/wp-cont.../roxy/04sm.jpg

Total Smoking time: 1:05

Final Thoughts: I enjoyed this cigar, a lot actually. Andrew’s rolling skills were impressive, as was his choice of tobacco blend. I'm ready to go out and buy some of my own tobacco to try my hand at this

http://www.stogiesnbrews.com/wp-cont.../roxy/05sm.jpg


kingcobradude 11-25-2011 01:51 PM

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I would prolly buy a box of these

BlkDrew 11-25-2011 03:23 PM

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so as far as applying the wrapper, I use a stainless tray, because it is easier to cut on, and if you lightly mist the outside of the wrapper, it sticks well to the stainless ( a trick i found on youtube of Sam Leccia rolling a nub)
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/y...8/IMG_0985.jpg

you always want to start at the tip of the leaf, with veins facing up.
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/y...8/IMG_0986.jpg

Remove a thin strip of the outer edge of the leaf, this is the edge that shows!
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/y...8/IMG_0987.jpg

Then remove a larger section of the inner edge, it does not show, and contains the bulk of the veins.
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/y...8/IMG_0988.jpg

BlkDrew 11-25-2011 03:30 PM

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I then bring it up to a tail, applying glue to the wrapper on the last 1/2 inch before the tip. One thing i did not show is that i cut a small flag from a scrap piece and go around the last 1/2 inch again, making a triple cap.
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/y...8/IMG_0989.jpg

I then "Roll" the cigar, you can either use the Cheveta, or a piece of cedar like i have. this helps flatten out any veins that are really sticking out.
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/y...8/IMG_0990.jpg

Cap it, i use a 3/4 inch copper union that has been sharpened,
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/y...8/IMG_0991.jpg

And cut the foot.... now youre done.
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/y...8/IMG_0992.jpg

Shawn hines 11-25-2011 09:28 PM

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Drew all I have to say is more... Great step by step

BlkDrew 11-26-2011 03:18 PM

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so i decided to distinguish between my Nicaraguan blend, and Dominican blend i will either use a gold N or D
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/y...8/IMG_0993.jpg

Shawn hines 11-27-2011 08:32 AM

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I am looking forward to the day my box comes in the mail drop.

BlkDrew 11-28-2011 01:55 PM

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so i got bored rolling this time. I decided to make a few short sticks, used less filler, did them in the Havana wrapper and a CT shade wrapper
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/y...8/IMG_0995.jpg

and the meat-head they are named after,
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/y...8/IMG_0115.jpg

Blak Smyth 11-28-2011 02:00 PM

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Awesome work as always Drew! Can't wait to try another!
Sent your tube back to you today!

Shawn hines 11-28-2011 02:00 PM

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So do you think that I can make a mold over here by drilling a in between 2 boards? I know this sound kind of Redneck, but I cant afford a Mold right now but want to try this out.

BlkDrew 11-28-2011 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawn hines (Post 1486385)
So do you think that I can make a mold over here by drilling a in between 2 boards? I know this sound kind of Redneck, but I cant afford a Mold right now but want to try this out.

you wont get the best press that way. if you look at my mold the top fits into the bottom, compressing the cigar and making it perfectly round. I had originally ordered one from JP Rose in ohio, if you see one of my first pictures, that was one that was drilled between two boards, and it did alright for the first 3 cigars, then i decided to go the other way.

If you look on ebay there are a lot of ones for sale, just search cigar mold, im sure you could find one in the 30$ range.:tu

Shawn hines 11-28-2011 02:07 PM

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Thanks for the info...again

never_enough 11-28-2011 09:48 PM

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Still impressed by this. Cigars are looking great.

yourchoice 11-28-2011 10:13 PM

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Very cool!:cool:

boxmonkey 11-28-2011 10:55 PM

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what kind of bunching technique do you use? I've been looking on youtube at different techniques and now I want to cut into a nub to figure out how they bunch them to stand.

BlkDrew 11-28-2011 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by boxmonkey (Post 1486916)
what kind of bunching technique do you use? I've been looking on youtube at different techniques and now I want to cut into a nub to figure out how they bunch them to stand.

I have tried a couple ways. Accordian style works really well, I also started doing a u shape with 2 seco leaves and then fold the ligero inside of the "u" with some leftover scrap wrapper that I have dried.

Emjaysmash 11-28-2011 11:37 PM

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Subscribed. This is a very interesting thread! Thanks for sharing!

Lanks85 11-29-2011 12:48 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BlkDrew (Post 1486379)
so i got bored rolling this time. I decided to make a few short sticks, used less filler, did them in the Havana wrapper and a CT shade wrapper
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/y...8/IMG_0995.jpg

and the meat-head they are named after,
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/y...8/IMG_0115.jpg

Awesome dog btw! Although, it does look grumpy. Did you ask her before you used her name for your cigars? :D

BlkDrew 11-29-2011 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Lanks85 (Post 1486991)
Awesome dog btw! Although, it does look grumpy. Did you ask her before you used her name for your cigars? :D

well i figured since i named her i could use the name. I would consider her a maduro...

WittyUserName 11-29-2011 04:49 AM

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I am absent for a couple of days and there are more pictures. Thank you again for sharing.

kelmac07 11-29-2011 04:52 AM

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Can't wait to fire up the maduro you sent Andrew. :D

Blak Smyth 11-29-2011 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by BlkDrew (Post 1487001)
well i figured since i named her i could use the name. I would consider her a maduro...

:r

Salvelinus 11-29-2011 06:13 AM

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Just made it through this thread, awesome addition to the site! The cigars are looking outstanding, and getting to see the process and progression is really cool.

Crownedone 11-29-2011 07:12 AM

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Those sticks are getting better looking all the time.

boxmonkey 11-29-2011 09:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BlkDrew (Post 1486944)
I have tried a couple ways. Accordian style works really well, I also started doing a u shape with 2 seco leaves and then fold the ligero inside of the "u" with some leftover scrap wrapper that I have dried.

Thanks again for the chaveta. now waiting for santa (the wife) to deliver some leafs.

Lanks85 11-29-2011 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BlkDrew (Post 1487001)
well i figured since i named her i could use the name. I would consider her a maduro...

well put... :D


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