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Fordman4ever 05-07-2011 08:47 PM

Re: Let's see those '11 gardens!
 
not really a garden, but when you live in base housing its pretty much all you can do.

http://i1135.photobucket.com/albums/...g?t=1304822851

BC-Axeman 05-07-2011 09:04 PM

Re: Let's see those '11 gardens!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fordman4ever (Post 1256548)
not really a garden, but when you live in base housing its pretty much all you can do.

http://i1135.photobucket.com/albums/...g?t=1304822851

Is that a tomato growing down through the bottom?

Fordman4ever 05-07-2011 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BC-Axeman (Post 1256559)
Is that a tomato growing down through the bottom?

Yep.

BC-Axeman 05-08-2011 09:12 AM

Re: Let's see those '11 gardens!
 
The dogs tore up all the newly planted tomatoes to get to the fish meal in the bottom of the holes. So I spent the day yesterday putting up a fence because we planted a lot more. Beans, peas (even though I think it's too late), melons, onions, cucumbers, squash, peppers, eggplant and more tomatoes is what I can remember. I have a lot of seeds to plant too. Carrots, more beans, corn, beets, bok choi and something else.

SvilleKid 05-08-2011 12:31 PM

Re: Let's see those '11 gardens!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BC-Axeman (Post 1256748)
The dogs tore up all the newly planted tomatoes to get to the fish meal in the bottom of the holes.

My mom has similar problems with the bonemeal for her flower bulbs. But it was squirrels that were digging up bulbs for meal, not dogs! Depending on where you are, it's probably NOTtoo late for re-plantings. You might need to use some sevin dust later on to limit bug damage and extend harvest times as it gets hotter. Just depends. Vine wasps for squash come to mind off the bat. Good luck!

BC-Axeman 05-08-2011 01:44 PM

Re: Let's see those '11 gardens!
 
We have had a long cold winter followed be a cold spring here. Everything is late.

hotreds 05-08-2011 02:18 PM

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Still too wet!

thebayratt 05-08-2011 03:10 PM

Re: Let's see those '11 gardens!
 
The heat and lack of rain is starting to take its toll on the garden. We haven't had but a 1/4" of rain in a month or more. I picked another gallon of beans today. May have a gallon or two left growing, but I think thats going to be it on the green beens. I may plant a few more to see if they come up or not. May have a second run of beans.

thebayratt 05-08-2011 04:12 PM

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Another gallon of beans and pulled a few carrots to see how they are doing.
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...1_839642_n.jpg

Soybeans about ready to pick
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot..._1799065_n.jpg

A few of the cucumbers on the trellis
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot..._7385785_n.jpg

Lima beans are doing ok. Could use some more water.
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot..._3631450_n.jpg

wayner123 05-08-2011 06:12 PM

Re: Let's see those '11 gardens!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thebayratt (Post 1256883)
The heat and lack of rain is starting to take its toll on the garden. We haven't had but a 1/4" of rain in a month or more. I picked another gallon of beans today. May have a gallon or two left growing, but I think thats going to be it on the green beens. I may plant a few more to see if they come up or not. May have a second run of beans.


Those soybeans are looking good! Mine look pretty bad right now.

If your green beans were Contender, I read that they will not continually produce like other varieties. Contender was made to fruit all at once for commercial harvesting. That is still a heck of a lot of green beans.

shilala 05-08-2011 07:32 PM

Re: Let's see those '11 gardens!
 
I'm not sure if I mentioned or not, but I may get a little garden in yet. I had some pressure treated frames from shelves that will work perfect. I'll have three more when I tear another shelving unit apart.
It won't be much, but it'll be more than I wanted to mess with. I might have to get you guys to all come over and dig them in. I'll supply the dirt, drinks, food and smokes. :D

jjirons69 05-09-2011 06:25 PM

Re: Let's see those '11 gardens!
 
Beautiful carrots, Shawn!

Wayne, planted Kentucky Blue pole and Blue Lake bush several times. Both produced very well, especially the pole. I planted a small, new row every 2-3 weeks and they keep putting out all season. Quite delicious and almost more than our family could keep up with. Shared them with the neighbors. Japanese beetles love them, too. ;)

Mr B 05-10-2011 10:31 AM

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Finally got my stuff in the ground. It was a late spring here. Lots of rain and cold.

(1) Parks Whopper Tom.
(2) Lemon Boy Toms.
(4) Early Girl Toms.
(4) Celebrity Toms.
(12) Jalapenos
(8) Green Bells
(2) Orange Bells
(2) Green Zuks.
(2) Yellow Zuks.
(4) Hybrid Burpless Cucs.
(1) Habanero

and from seed:
Spinach
Butter Leaf
Carrots
Raddish (a little late, I know)

Basil
Chives
Strawberries

Pics to come later

Ahbroody 05-10-2011 10:33 AM

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Nice.

BC-Axeman 05-10-2011 10:40 AM

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Still fighting the dogs here. I will never, EVER, put fish meal in the ground again. That move is costing me a lot of money in fencing and reinforcement. I may have to go electronic next. Hours and hours of extra time spent that I could have been relaxing with a cigar. I need to find a "bad mood" icon to insert here.
On second thought, I could randomly trowel in a little fish meal in gopher holes around the field to distract the dogs.

OLS 05-10-2011 10:43 AM

Re: Let's see those '11 gardens!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BC-Axeman (Post 1256748)
So I spent the day yesterday putting up a fence

I think some will hate me for this, but you know what costs the same as putting up a fence
and works better?? A little electric fence unit. You can get em at farm supply stores, and they
provide a very educational pop. Testing them is fun, too, haha. But if you hang little streamers or
cds from the shock wire, you can trun the shock unit off after a few pops and I promise you they
won't go near it the rest of the season.

BC-Axeman 05-10-2011 10:46 AM

Re: Let's see those '11 gardens!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr B (Post 1258209)
Raddish (a little late, I know)

Depends on the radish type. You can grow radishes most the year. They mature so fast you can replant again and again.

BC-Axeman 05-10-2011 10:49 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLS (Post 1258228)
I think some will hate me for this, but you know what costs the same as putting up a fence
and works better?? A little electric fence unit. You can get em at farm supply stores, and they
provide a very educational pop. Testing them is fun, too, haha. But if you hang little streamers or
cds from the shock wire, you can trun the shock unit off after a few pops and I promise you they
won't go near it the rest of the season.

Yep, that's next.

Mr B 05-10-2011 11:21 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BC-Axeman (Post 1258231)
Depends on the radish type. You can grow radishes most the year. They mature so fast you can replant again and again.

Lance, sorry to hear about your dog problems.

I am also planting the raddish's in an area that gets a little less sun than the rest of the garden so it should be fine. I hope.:)

shilala 05-10-2011 11:44 AM

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I tore apart another big shelf and got me another two frames for the garden. If I get moving, I'll have a couple more. I'll have a nice little terraced thing going on. I'm stoked. :tu

OLS 05-10-2011 11:51 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BC-Axeman (Post 1258238)
Yep, that's next.

Best thing about the elctric fence is it has so many uses, well, all of them are teaching dogs a hard
lesson, but the wire is so cheap you can run that shizzle everywhere you want to control behavior
and man, does it work. Done training the garden gnomes, string some up off the fence line. The one
lesson I need to teach right now is the pond is not a pool for dogs OR a drinking fountain.

Mr B 05-10-2011 12:34 PM

Re: Let's see those '11 gardens!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shilala (Post 1258307)
I tore apart another big shelf and got me another two frames for the garden. If I get moving, I'll have a couple more. I'll have a nice little terraced thing going on. I'm stoked. :tu



:tu

thebayratt 05-10-2011 05:38 PM

Re: Let's see those '11 gardens!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jjirons69 (Post 1257665)
Beautiful carrots, Shawn!

Wayne, planted Kentucky Blue pole and Blue Lake bush several times. Both produced very well, especially the pole. I planted a small, new row every 2-3 weeks and they keep putting out all season. Quite delicious and almost more than our family could keep up with. Shared them with the neighbors. Japanese beetles love them, too. ;)

Thanks

I like the idea of spreading out the planting a few weeks. I will try that next year or maybe this year if I get enough time for a second run of plants.


I myself had to put up fencing. Last year, I used wood 2x2s for posts but they rotted and the termites ate them. So I went with a metal t-post. They are more sturdier and I can use them over and over. I got a 25' roll of chicken wire that I strung out as tight as I could to keep the dogs out. The back part of the garden is bordered by chainlink, so that saved me some fence/cash.

shilala 05-11-2011 11:37 AM

Re: Let's see those '11 gardens!
 
I managed to turn up some dirt alongside the house for a garden. I'll turn up the whole side eventually and use some treated lumber to hold back the dirt.
I improved the dirt with composted poop and SAP, so it should grow stuff well. I'm excited to see how it goes. :D

SvilleKid 05-11-2011 12:25 PM

Re: Let's see those '11 gardens!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shilala (Post 1259388)
I managed to turn up some dirt alongside the house for a garden. I'll turn up the whole side eventually and use some treated lumber to hold back the dirt.
I improved the dirt with composted poop and SAP, so it should grow stuff well. I'm excited to see how it goes. :D

Put a barrier between the treated lumber and the garden soil. Some treated lumber has some really nasty chemicals that will leach into the soil. Just suggesting:2

shilala 05-11-2011 01:32 PM

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I just dragged home 40 more bags of composted poop. I gotta go work.
Sville, I'm just using 2x4's and they'll be lower than the dirt. It's hard to explain how it's laid up, so I won't bore you guys. anyways, if the chemicals can defy gravity, they can have me. ;)

jjirons69 05-11-2011 01:58 PM

Re: Let's see those '11 gardens!
 
Think I'm going to plant some peanuts this weekend where my onions are now growing. Think the kids will like to see the process.

BC-Axeman 05-16-2011 12:53 PM

Re: Let's see those '11 gardens!
 
We're getting March weather in May.
I decided not to garden.
http://fracstar.com/pics/trinrobex3.jpg

Skywalker 05-16-2011 01:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BC-Axeman (Post 1264425)
We're getting March weather in May.
I decided not to garden.
http://fracstar.com/pics/trinrobex3.jpg

Good for you, Lance!:tu

shilala 05-16-2011 05:29 PM

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If anyone would like to take a go at growing tobacco, I have tons of open-pollinated seed from last year.
There were three starting varieties, Havanah 2000, San Andres MX, and Perique. The Havanah did real well, the Perique was small, and the San Andres was very susceptible to sucking insects and scale.
A couple more generations and selection of this new outcross should yield an excellent northern variety. Select it where you live and you have a nice southern variety. Point being, the genetic diversity is there in these seeds, and that's what you want if you're gonna start and perfect your own cultivar. It's why I outcrossed and saved the seed.
Regardless of whether or not you want to use the tobacco, they are a GORGEOUS plant, take zero attention, and show tons of beautiful, fragrant flowers.
All plant magazine advertising aside, it's basically a weed, and it grows as easy and fast as a weed. Shade or full sun, it doesn't care. It's very tolerant of wet feet, but it likes dry, rock hard unamended soil best.
It's super easy to start, super easy to grow, and it's just plain fun. It's a very forgiving weed, for sure.

If any of you guys want some seed, just post here and send me a pm with your address. I can send seed in a little ziplock inside a regular envelope, it's no biggie at all. And it would be my pleasure. :tu

Fordman4ever 05-16-2011 06:08 PM

Re: Let's see those '11 gardens!
 
I'm down to try it. I don't really know anything about growing tobacco or what to do with it when its done. I'll probably have lots of questions. First one being, is Nebraska a good place to grow tobacco?

shilala 05-16-2011 06:41 PM

Re: Let's see those '11 gardens!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fordman4ever (Post 1264762)
I'm down to try it. I don't really know anything about growing tobacco or what to do with it when its done. I'll probably have lots of questions. First one being, is Nebraska a good place to grow tobacco?

I chop it down and compost it when it's done. I save some seed, too. If you wanna cure it, it's a royal pita, and takes a lot of work.
Nebraska is as good as anyplace, I suppose.
You can start the seeds right in the dirt or start them indoors. They're easier than growing tomatoes and grow a lot faster. :tu

Fordman4ever 05-16-2011 06:47 PM

Re: Let's see those '11 gardens!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shilala (Post 1264793)
They're easier than growing tomatoes and grow a lot faster. :tu

My tomato aint doing to well. I think i got a diseased one from Ace Hardware. Guess thats what I get for buying a tomato plant at a hardware store.

wayner123 05-17-2011 06:38 AM

Re: Let's see those '11 gardens!
 
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Originally Posted by Fordman4ever (Post 1264797)
My tomato aint doing to well. I think i got a diseased one from Ace Hardware. Guess thats what I get for buying a tomato plant at a hardware store.

I think it's more to do with the large amount of roots that a tomato plant has and it's water requirements. Your setup doesn't look to provide the needed requirements. Not to mention it's growing upside down with other plants.

wayner123 05-17-2011 06:41 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shilala (Post 1264793)
I chop it down and compost it when it's done. I save some seed, too. If you wanna cure it, it's a royal pita, and takes a lot of work.
Nebraska is as good as anyplace, I suppose.
You can start the seeds right in the dirt or start them indoors. They're easier than growing tomatoes and grow a lot faster. :tu

Curing isn't all that difficult. There are a few good write-ups on it. Some people even use large foam coolers and wood dowels.

Here is one such article: http://www.victoryseeds.com/tobacco/...ltivation.html

If you didn't want to make cigars from it, you could chop it up and grind it fine to make cigarette, snus, chew, etc.

shilala 05-17-2011 02:34 PM

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Cliff and Earl, your tobacco seed is on the way. :tu

Fordman4ever 05-17-2011 02:54 PM

Re: Let's see those '11 gardens!
 
awesome, thanks again

Fordman4ever 05-17-2011 02:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wayner123 (Post 1265365)
I think it's more to do with the large amount of roots that a tomato plant has and it's water requirements. Your setup doesn't look to provide the needed requirements. Not to mention it's growing upside down with other plants.

I did the same thing last year and the plant grew all the way to the ground and produced lots of tomatoes. I even had more herbs in the top last year. although, the plant from last year was much bigger when i planted it and already had a pretty healthy root system.

wayner123 05-17-2011 03:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fordman4ever (Post 1265884)
I did the same thing last year and the plant grew all the way to the ground and produced lots of tomatoes. I even had more herbs in the top last year. although, the plant from last year was much bigger when i planted it and already had a pretty healthy root system.

Was it the same variety of tomato?

Fordman4ever 05-17-2011 03:06 PM

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I don't think so. this one came with some tomatoes already growing on it and it was pretty much all Ace Hardware had left. It looked kinda sickly when i bought it too.

HK3- 05-18-2011 06:44 AM

Re: Let's see those '11 gardens!
 
Scott I will take you up on a few tobacco seeds. I've been watching you grow it every year and they do look pretty! :tu

Was out checking my garden yesterday and noticed a good size snake hanging out by it. He has a hole that goes under the edging of the garden. Not sure what kind he is but I'm sure he's killing critters! :) Going to take the camera out there in a minute to see if I can catch him out there today....

thebayratt 05-18-2011 06:05 PM

Re: Let's see those '11 gardens!
 
Grabbed some lima beens and another gallon of green beens today. There is a little left on the beens for growing. I pulled out a few plants that were "done" and planted another seed in its place, and those new sprouts are comming up already!!
Hopefully I can get a second round of plants out this year.

I also grabbed a 15" bowl full of soybeans for making edamame. I love that stuff!!

Noodles 05-19-2011 02:46 PM

Re: Let's see those '11 gardens!
 
Hi guys, newbie here. A week ago I planted a couple of tomato plants I got from Home Depot. Bad Idea?

Anyway I planted them in a plastic pot I bought from home depot. They are less than 5 gallons.

I am also planning to plant some peppers and eggplants this weekend. Is it too late for that?

I ordered a few of those 7-gallon smart pots so I can transfer my tomato plants and plant peppers and eggplants in them.

Any advice is appreciated.

wayner123 05-19-2011 02:49 PM

Re: Let's see those '11 gardens!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Noodles (Post 1268160)
Hi guys, newbie here. A week ago I planted a couple of tomato plants I got from Home Depot. Bad Idea?

Anyway I planted them in a plastic pot I bought from home depot. They are less than 5 gallons.

I am also planning to plant some peppers and eggplants this weekend. Is it too late for that?

I ordered a few of those 7-gallon smart pots so I can transfer my tomato plants and plant peppers and eggplants in them.

Any advice is appreciated.

Good to see another garden hobbyist.

Where are you located. That will determine a great deal of what you can plant.

Also, I prefer SWC's for tomato's. They seem to need a ton of water later on in life. Here is a good method for making one: http://www.globalbuckets.org/

Mr B 05-19-2011 02:58 PM

Re: Let's see those '11 gardens!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Noodles (Post 1268160)
Hi guys, newbie here. A week ago I planted a couple of tomato plants I got from Home Depot. Bad Idea?

Anyway I planted them in a plastic pot I bought from home depot. They are less than 5 gallons.

I am also planning to plant some peppers and eggplants this weekend. Is it too late for that?

I ordered a few of those 7-gallon smart pots so I can transfer my tomato plants and plant peppers and eggplants in them.

Any advice is appreciated.

Home Depot not a bad idea at all. That is where I get most of my veggies.
Make sure you have a "water catch basin" under the 5 gal pot. Those toms will suck down the water when planted in containers.

Noodles 05-19-2011 03:31 PM

Re: Let's see those '11 gardens!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wayner123 (Post 1268165)
Good to see another garden hobbyist.

Where are you located. That will determine a great deal of what you can plant.

Also, I prefer SWC's for tomato's. They seem to need a ton of water later on in life. Here is a good method for making one: http://www.globalbuckets.org/

I'm in Southeast Pennsylvania.

jlaker 05-20-2011 09:24 AM

Re: Let's see those '11 gardens!
 
I have a decent sized garden this year:

4 6 ft rows of green beans
4 6 ft rows of peas
4 5 ft rows of lettuce (2 of them are getting very close to pruning the outside leaves for salads)
3 bush beans
4 roma tom
10 tomatoes (celebrity, better bush)
4 jalapeno
2 serrano
16 green p
4 yellow p
2ft x 10ft "patch" of raspberries

Question: I know lettuce will do fine for a fall harvest since it is a little cooler, how about peas?

wayner123 05-20-2011 09:35 AM

Re: Let's see those '11 gardens!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jlaker (Post 1268967)
I have a decent sized garden this year:

4 6 ft rows of green beans
4 6 ft rows of peas
4 5 ft rows of lettuce (2 of them are getting very close to pruning the outside leaves for salads)
3 bush beans
4 roma tom
10 tomatoes (celebrity, better bush)
4 jalapeno
2 serrano
16 green p
4 yellow p
2ft x 10ft "patch" of raspberries

Question: I know lettuce will do fine for a fall harvest since it is a little cooler, how about peas?

Depends on the variety of pea. If it's a snow pea type then it loves cooler weather. If it's a cowpea type, then heat is what you want.

wayner123 05-20-2011 09:41 AM

Re: Let's see those '11 gardens!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Noodles (Post 1268222)
I'm in Southeast Pennsylvania.

Look for what zone you are in, and then google "planting guide" or vegetable planting guide for that zone.

jlaker 05-20-2011 09:46 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wayner123 (Post 1268974)
Depends on the variety of pea. If it's a snow pea type then it loves cooler weather. If it's a cowpea type, then heat is what you want.

It's a Spring/Sweet pea so I 'm guessing the would be good for the fall too


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