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Darrell 11-29-2010 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill86 (Post 1077038)
Agreed, to me it's gotta happen. Deb shot that dude and didn't care much at all, I think she might embrace what Dexter does. That would make for a very interesting sixth season.

I was just thinking the same thing.

Remember when she asked Dexter if he knew what kind of person would kill the guys who hurt those girls? and she said that she would do that.

Bill86 11-29-2010 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Darrell (Post 1077075)
I was just thinking the same thing.

Remember when she asked Dexter if he knew what kind of person would kill the guys who hurt those girls? and she said that she would do that.

Yeah I think sooner or later it only makes sense they team up. Even if she just feeds him targets. Or asks "favors" of making people disappear.

Starscream 11-29-2010 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Darrell (Post 1077075)
I was just thinking the same thing.

Remember when she asked Dexter if he knew what kind of person would kill the guys who hurt those girls? and she said that she would do that.

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Originally Posted by Bill86 (Post 1077107)
Yeah I think sooner or later it only makes sense they team up. Even if she just feeds him targets. Or asks "favors" of making people disappear.

Somebody spilled the beans in last year's discussion thread and said that Deb and Dex team up and she helps him with his kills in the novels. But I hear the novels are a lot different than the tv series.

hscmit 11-29-2010 06:13 PM

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the tv show split from the books before the end of the first season

the first half of the first season follows very close to the plot of the book but by the end is slightly different. From that point the stories go in completely different directions

3SmokesaRound 12-01-2010 09:23 PM

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That is the perfect reason for her to find out at the end of the last episode this year. That way next year can start right from that and it won't start slow like this season did.

Didn't even realize this thread existed until now :tu

Couldn't agree more! I still remember the HOLY CHIT factor at the end of Season 4 and I think at this point that would be the best way to end this season. Although I never saw that coming at the end of Season 4, so maybe the writers have something else in store for us.

I'd be bummed if this show wasn't picked up for another season. I get Showtime every year just for Dexter. Probably my favorite show of all time.

Bill86 12-05-2010 11:01 PM

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There we go Libby is dead and Chase has Lumen. This is going to be a fantastic finale next week!

Quinn looks like he is going to stay off the table this season after all. Kind of disappointed. Or maybe he'll find the blood on his shoe and figure dexter out.

Very awesome season.

wavescrashing 12-05-2010 11:06 PM

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It's a great season. Did you notice in the preview for the Finale they showed Deb pointing a gun at Dexter and said "don't friggin move"?
I'm thinking that they made it into a cut screen and that she's not actually pointing the gun at him, but I could be wrong. But seriously, they just signed for a new season so....

Bill86 12-05-2010 11:09 PM

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I don't watch previews, pretty much for that reason. That it could actually be something different than what you see. But this season is fantastic, for me Dexter always delivers.

hscmit 12-06-2010 08:22 AM

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great setup for the final episode

tx_tuff 12-06-2010 08:48 AM

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Well I was wrong, I figured Quinn would end up killing Libby. What do they say, close but no cigar LOL. Quinn is going to know for sure that Dexter killed Libby since of course he was the one he was watching, but the Quinn Dexter saga will not end this season. I watched in the slow mo the preview with Deb pointing the gun at Dexter, the back grounds look similar and so does the shirt Dexter is wearing and the shirt of the arm/had dropping the knife. But come on that doesn't mean anything. Either way looks like it will be a good last show.

Starscream 12-06-2010 06:18 PM

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It's not over for Quinn yet.
I hate episodes where Dexter is sloppy, but this one was necessary to set up the finale. Maybe it will get pinned on Quinn?

rebelknight 12-07-2010 09:06 AM

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It's not over for Quinn yet.
I hate episodes where Dexter is sloppy, but this one was necessary to set up the finale. Maybe it will get pinned on Quinn?

I could see that. Quinn kind of reminds me of Doakes or whatever his name was that Dexter pins the bay harbor butcher on. Only difference is Quinn was smart enough to back off

Starscream 12-07-2010 10:51 AM

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I could see that. Quinn kind of reminds me of Doakes or whatever his name was that Dexter pins the bay harbor butcher on. Only difference is Quinn was smart enough to back off

I never liked Quinn until this season. If he gets offed or accused of the murder, I'll be a bit saddened.

JDTexan 12-07-2010 12:37 PM

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Great episode, can't wait for the finale.

tx_tuff 12-07-2010 01:56 PM

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Quinn did have blood on his shoe and they showed it being swabbed in the preview, but Quinn knows to much just to take the fall unless he "disappears". Either way can't wait till Sunday.

On a side note started listening to the first Dexter book last night.

rebelknight 12-07-2010 05:15 PM

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How are the books? I don't have a lot of time to free read being a student but I still read about 10-15 books every year and I've been interested in starting to read the Dexter novels

3SmokesaRound 12-07-2010 07:17 PM

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Can't wait for Sunday!

Bill86 12-07-2010 08:14 PM

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Can't wait for Sunday!

I hear ya Bill, I'm going to call it now best finale of the year.

hscmit 12-07-2010 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by rebelknight (Post 1085667)
How are the books? I don't have a lot of time to free read being a student but I still read about 10-15 books every year and I've been interested in starting to read the Dexter novels

I liked the first two and the new (5th) one. The third and fourth were not as good, in my opinion.

tx_tuff 12-09-2010 03:12 PM

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How are the books? I don't have a lot of time to free read being a student but I still read about 10-15 books every year and I've been interested in starting to read the Dexter novels

Just started listening to the first, only to chapter 6. It is different but a lot of same charters. So far so good.

Starscream 12-12-2010 08:33 PM

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I was a bit let down by the ending. Too many issues magically resolved. No explanation about Quinn's fingerprints and connection to Robocop, Lumen is all of a sudden healed and Dexter has no issue with her leaving with all of his secrets. And Quinn seems to know Dexter killed Robocop, but he's ok with it just b/c he loves Deb.


It was a lot like the ending to Huck Finn, as if Twain got tired of telling the story, so everything just "magically" got put back in place for a happy ending.

Bill86 12-12-2010 11:32 PM

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I was a bit let down by the ending. Too many issues magically resolved. No explanation about Quinn's fingerprints and connection to Robocop, Lumen is all of a sudden healed and Dexter has no issue with her leaving with all of his secrets. And Quinn seems to know Dexter killed Robocop, but he's ok with it just b/c he loves Deb.


It was a lot like the ending to Huck Finn, as if Twain got tired of telling the story, so everything just "magically" got put back in place for a happy ending.

Everything did magically resolve in a sense. But you really don't know that for sure until season 6 starts. It could go several ways.
1. Quinn could easily put 2+2 together and wonder why Dexter cleared him off the case.
2. Dexter and Quinn could become friends
3. Quinn realizes Dexter killed Liddy and it bites Dexter in the a$$ at a later time.
4. Quinn uses the murder as leverage and could essentially make Dexter do whatever he wanted with the threat of telling Deb

Although it also brings the kids (all 3) back into the picture. Lumen being healed, well she got what she wanted everyone responsible dead. As far as Dexters secrets well she killed 2 people herself, I cannot imagine her ever spilling his secrets.

I agree about the Quinn thing though. It does become pretty painfully obvious Dexter did that one. But again Quinn thanked him for clearing him and that makes them MAYBE even at best. It could pit Quinn vs Dexter for season 7. Or Quinn could care for Deb too much and let go.

If I'm not mistaken Dexter always ends with everything "wrapped up". The new seasons are always a complete surprise.

tx_tuff 12-13-2010 08:27 AM

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Quinn knows Dexter did it, Dexter knows that Quinn knows. Its all Deb that is saving both of them, Quinn doesn't want to lose her over it and Dexter doesn't want to take out her love, he wants her to be happy. So that only means that at a later time when the Quinn and Deb relationship falls apart it will bring up Quinn Vs Dexter again. That could be a couple years away.

As far as "issues magically resolved" that happens all the time on the show and is nothing new. Quinn was cleared because of the blood Dexter doctored up, as far as finger prints and phone calls he explained that by being his only friend. If they showed every little detail it would be a 2 hour show LOL.

Overall it was good but I was telling the wife at the start of the show that Lumen was leaving, and as soon as Deb walked into the camp house I told her that Deb was letting them go. So unlike last year I could see things coming which made it not as good as last years ending. But we still enjoyed it.

kydsid 12-13-2010 08:27 AM

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something about what deb said to dexter at the party and how she was with quinn makes me think he told her everything and she has a suspicion or more about dexter.
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JDTexan 12-13-2010 09:10 AM

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It was an ok ending at best but I am still very interested in the show.

Starscream 12-13-2010 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill86 (Post 1092022)

If I'm not mistaken Dexter always ends with everything "wrapped up". The new seasons are always a complete surprise.

Except for last year. Rita lying in a bathtub filled with her own blood wasn't "wrapped up" to me.;)

Yeah, I know it's only an hour long show (45 minutes really), but they could have had a better explanation for Quinn getting off the hook (or took out the detail of his fingerprints being everywhere). I'm ok with the whole Lumen story, but the Quinn ordeal is still bugging me today.

I'm still a fan of the show, yet I was a bit let down b/c of the continuity issues. Yes, there have been some in the past, but this season takes the cake with all of the flaws. I was still entertained and will continue to watch and enjoy the show.

tx_tuff 12-13-2010 10:06 AM

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Keep in mind that Quinn's fingerprints where only on the outside of the van (from when he tried to open the doors) and not on the inside. So that makes a big difference.

hscmit 12-13-2010 10:15 AM

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yep, there are some pretty big holes in Quinns story. I also imagine there was some of Dexters blood left on the flipped, stolen car at the camp

tx_tuff 12-13-2010 10:19 AM

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Doesn't matter for 2 reasons, one Dexter does all the blood testing, and 2 even if somebody else did it there would be no match because Dexter's blood/DNA is not in the system.

Darrell 12-13-2010 09:09 PM

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I like this show, but the finale was a bit underwhelming.

Bill86 12-13-2010 09:15 PM

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I dunno, it was kinda weird and surprising on how close Dexter was to Deb figuring him out. I thought it was a good ending, but I agree nothing earth shattering. But it does set up for what I believe will be a VERY exciting 6th season.

3SmokesaRound 12-13-2010 11:51 PM

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Just watched it tonight, as we had company last night, and thought it was okay. Nothing like last year obviously, and was hoping that Deb was going to find out about Dexter. Was also hoping that Lumen would be around, but kind of figured she's be gone once Jordan was. I look forward to next season and wish there were more than 12 damn episodes per season!

Bill86 12-13-2010 11:55 PM

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wish there were more than 12 damn episodes per season!

You ain't kidding Bill! I'm quite shocked really, there is a lot of shows out there with 20+ episodes a season that are quite good. Burn Notice and Fringe come to mind. Although lately Fringe has been very Meh.

tx_tuff 12-14-2010 01:08 PM

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I think they where setting up for Deb finding out about Dexter next season. Would make a pretty good secondary story line.

tx_tuff 12-14-2010 03:26 PM

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Don't know if y'all heard the news today that Dexter is divorcing Deb LOL. Michael C Hall and Jennifer Carpenter (Deb) are getting divorced. Also I think it was posted when it was announced on Dec 7th, Dexter has been renewed for a season 6.

Bill86 12-14-2010 03:29 PM

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Don't know if y'all heard the news today that Dexter is divorcing Deb LOL. Michael C Hall and Jennifer Carpenter (Deb) are getting divorced. Also I think it was posted when it was announced on Dec 7th, Dexter has been renewed for a season 6.

Yeah I saw that on IMDB. Shame, said they didn't really get along all season. I really hope the show doesn't suffer because of their divorce.

Starscream 12-14-2010 03:34 PM

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Hope the divorce didn't have anything to do with the cancer. Sad to hear this.

rebelknight 01-09-2011 03:18 PM

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My girlfriend gave me the first two books for Christmas. Once I'm finished with the book I'm in the middle of I'm going to start them. Can't wait. Also I really enjoyed the season finale. Still a little disappointed Deb didn't find out it was Dexter. I've been waiting for that moment for a long time and that was so perfect for it.


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