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BengalMan 11-30-2008 08:21 PM

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$50 is actually about $15 or so less than MSRP. That's pretty impressive. The Rip 20 is some good stuff, but the 15 is also good, and like Heat said, cheaper.

What other bottles of the AC did they have?

tech-ninja 11-30-2008 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Heatmiser (Post 93384)
$50 is a great price for any of the Buffalo Trace Antique Collection bottles. Go get the William Larue Weller and the Thomas Handy rye if they still have them. These 3 are must haves. Each is straight from the barrel, barrel proof and unfiltered.

Pass on the Pappy Van Winle 20. $100 isn't that great of a price and you are better off buying the Pappy 15 year. The 20 is over-oaked (to long in the barrel) in my opinion. Just my :2

Thanks, they said they were out of the pvw 15, but had the.... 12?

I'll probably pick up the other buffalo trace's tomorrow. :D

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Originally Posted by BengalMan (Post 93385)
$50 is actually about $15 or so less than MSRP. That's pretty impressive. The Rip 20 is some good stuff, but the 15 is also good, and like Heat said, cheaper.

What other bottles of the AC did they have?

When I was there they had 2 bottles of stagg, 3 bottles of one that was a rye, and 3 bottles of another one I don't remember. I picked up one of the stagg's.

Thanks for the input guys!

Mikey202 11-30-2008 08:56 PM

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Any comments on Four Roses... ordered some and it will be here on Monday.

Jdbwolverines 12-01-2008 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by tech-ninja (Post 92186)
Great thread. This led me to go to my local place and they had three of the Buffalo Trace Antique edition. I got the George Stagg. Got home. That stuff is 141 proof!!! Tastes good though.

Thinking heavily about swinging by tomorrow and picking up the other two kinds.

I paid $50 bucks for mine. Is that about right?

They had the RVW 20 year for $100. didn't get that though

$50 is a great price for the Stagg. I've never seen it under $75 a bottle and it is often over $100. At that price its pry worth buying all that they have. Either drink em yourself, or give em away as gifts. I'm sure most on here will agree, a fine bottle of bourbon makes a great present.

JohnnyFlake 12-01-2008 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Mikey202 (Post 93425)
Any comments on Four Roses... ordered some and it will be here on Monday.

I happen to like the standard 80 proof Four Roses, from time to time. For me, it's a very light whiskey or Bourbon, that's far too easy to drink! It offers distinct nuances of honey and a consistent light spiciness. It's very drinkable! The Four Roses Single Barrel 86 proof and the 15yo 104 proof Barrel Strength are much different!

tech-ninja 12-01-2008 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Heatmiser (Post 66329)
Others that BT release each year are William Larue Weller (wheated bourbon = YUMMY) and Thomas Handy (straight rye, barrel proof & unfiltered = REAL YUMMY). I would buy all three of these for sure!!!

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Originally Posted by Heatmiser (Post 93384)
Go get the William Larue Weller and the Thomas Handy rye if they still have them. These 3 are must haves. Each is straight from the barrel, barrel proof and unfiltered.

Thanks for the tip! These were the other two they had and I got a bottle of each. :tu

BengalMan 12-02-2008 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikey202 (Post 93425)
Any comments on Four Roses... ordered some and it will be here on Monday.

Four Roses is good stuff. What did you order? Their single barrel is top notch for about $30. I absolutely love their latest LE which is the Mariage. A phenomenal bourbon. The 120th didn't do much for me, going to crack open my 40th here soon and see how that is.

You will get a lot of cinnamon and spice with Four Roses, more cinnamon than almost any other bourbon. It's almost like a dessert drink. Very good.

Mikey202 12-02-2008 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BengalMan (Post 97276)
Four Roses is good stuff. What did you order? Their single barrel is top notch for about $30. I absolutely love their latest LE which is the Mariage. A phenomenal bourbon. The 120th didn't do much for me, going to crack open my 40th here soon and see how that is.

You will get a lot of cinnamon and spice with Four Roses, more cinnamon than almost any other bourbon. It's almost like a dessert drink. Very good.

I ordered 2 gift packs for $36 a piece....went to get them and they were back ordered:mad: I think they are the Small Batch bottles.

tech-ninja 12-05-2008 07:59 PM

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A vendor of mine sent me a bottle of Jefferson Reserve 15 yr. Got it today. Pretty good. Anybody else ever had it?

BengalMan 12-05-2008 08:24 PM

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Can't say that I have.

BengalMan 12-13-2008 08:24 AM

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Bump because I love bourbon. :) Had a few glasses of Elmer T Lee from the decanter last night. Love this stuff.

Heatmiser 12-13-2008 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BengalMan (Post 117075)
Had a few glasses of Elmer T Lee from the decanter last night. Love this stuff.

Yummmmmmmmmmmm! Good stuff!

Ken 12-17-2008 08:06 AM

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Guys, I'm bringing Kentucky Vintage back up. They actually have some higher end bottles though this does the trick. Along with all the flavors we like to talk about, you can actually taste the recipe of this bourbon. Two other guy that were over for poker took a liking to the Ky Vin, too. Goes down easy and not bad on the wallet as well.

http://www.thedrinkshop.com/images/p.../2882/2882.jpg

MadAl 12-17-2008 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by tech-ninja (Post 103765)
A vendor of mine sent me a bottle of Jefferson Reserve 15 yr. Got it today. Pretty good. Anybody else ever had it?

I have, I have! I like it, it's similar to Woodford, but a little edgier

newcigarz 12-19-2008 01:39 PM

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Stagg came in today. One bottle @ 141.8 one @ 144.8

Click for a bigger pic.

http://www.fototime.com/15BCEAF1C224FB8/standard.jpg

JohnnyFlake 12-19-2008 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by newcigarz (Post 127448)
Stagg came in today. One bottle @ 141.8 one @ 144.8

Click for a bigger pic.

http://www.fototime.com/15BCEAF1C224FB8/standard.jpg

I want one, and I want it NOW!!!

newcigarz 12-19-2008 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyFlake (Post 127607)
I want one, and I want it NOW!!!

:gl

BengalMan 12-21-2008 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by newcigarz (Post 127448)
Stagg came in today. One bottle @ 141.8 one @ 144.8

Click for a bigger pic.

http://www.fototime.com/15BCEAF1C224FB8/standard.jpg

The 144 is from last year, the 141 is from this year.

dunng 12-21-2008 06:34 PM

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Nothing fancy here, just a few to choose from...

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...g/DSC03354.jpg

newcigarz 12-21-2008 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BengalMan (Post 129397)
The 144 is from last year, the 141 is from this year.

Which is very interesting because my store told me there was no '07 to be had and then one shows up.

Savvy 12-21-2008 07:21 PM

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Finishing off a bottle of Bulliet that I had. I missed this stuff...

Back to the bourbon world for the next two weeks as I'm home for exodus...then back to drinking shitty beer on base...

dunng 12-21-2008 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Savvy (Post 130165)
Finishing off a bottle of Bulliet that I had. I missed this stuff...

I just found one I had forgotten about! :D

newcigarz 12-24-2008 12:53 PM

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Eagle Rare 17 Fall 2008 edition

http://www.fototime.com/48D0C7F43935FBC/standard.jpg

Mr.Maduro 12-24-2008 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by newcigarz (Post 134122)

Well..... are you going to just leave us hanging here??? ;)

How is it? I haven't cracked any of my '08s yet. I have to finish off some stock first before cycling (sneaking) new bottles home!

I get a ton of bottles every year for the holidays, but its usually stuff I don't drink much of (like Vodka or wine) and I can't even exchange them because of some State law forbidding returns of alcohol products... :fl

Too bad because I would trade them in for nothin' but bourbon! :al

Savvy 12-24-2008 01:29 PM

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Picked up a bottle of Four Roses the other day...thanks a lot thread contributors.

I have that and my bottle of Buffalo Trace to get through now over the holidays. Looking like its going to shape up to be a good one :al

newcigarz 12-24-2008 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Maduro (Post 134139)
Well..... are you going to just leave us hanging here??? ;)

I just got it today Patrick, but I think I will open these other bottles that I also got today first.
If you have not picked this up yet I highly recommend you do. It is IMHO the best value on the market today. At @ $14.99/bottle it tastes better than a lot of more expensive products.

Rittenhouse Rye - Bottled in Bond

http://www.shoppersvineyard.com/prod....asp?pID=32192

http://www.fototime.com/1E471DDEEFA78A6/standard.jpg


A little info about Bottled in Bond:

To be labeled as "Bottled-in-Bond" or "Bonded," the whiskey must be straight whiskey that is the product of one distillation season and one distiller at one distillery. It must have been stored (i.e., aged) in a federally bonded warehouse under U.S. government supervision for at least four years and bottled at 100 (U.S.) proof (50% alcohol by volume). The bottled product's label must identify the distillery (by DSP number) where it was distilled and, if different, where it was bottled.

BengalMan 12-25-2008 06:08 PM

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Rittenhouse Rye is some very good stuff, and like you said, for the price, is VERY HARD to beat.

Mr.Maduro 01-05-2009 09:48 AM

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At a friend's yesterday, I tried Four Roses Single Barrell as well as Old Forester's Birthday Batch 2007. The Four Roses was ok, but I'll be searching out a bottle of Old Foresters!!:tu

Cyclone 01-05-2009 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by cbsmokin (Post 63540)
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n150/cbnat/VAN5.jpg

Had some last night over ice.

Yummy. :D

I really HATE that you live so far away... :D

Mr.Maduro 01-05-2009 11:28 AM

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I thought other bourbon lovers would enjoy this as much as I did....

Bourbon's Beauty: An ode to a distinctly American drink
(Newsweek)--In light of the recent 75th anniversary of the repeal of prohibition, it seems appropriate-and not just a little necessary, since we are also in the midst of an especially fraught holiday season-to meditate on America's great contribution to the world of spirits, bourbon whiskey. First produced in the late 18th century in the "Old Bourbon" region of Kentucky, bourbon was recognized in 1964 as "a distinct product of America" by Congress, which also laid out the "Federal Standards of Identity." It must be made of a grain mixture that is at least 51 percent corn, distilled in America at less than 160 proof with nothing added but water, and aged for a minimum of two years in new, charred-oak barrels.
George Washington distilled bourbon at Mount Vernon, Abraham Lincoln's father was a seasonal distillery hand, and Lincoln's General-in-Chief, Ulysses S. Grant, was a dedicated consumer of bourbon.
The novelist Walker Percy wrote an oft-reprinted essay in praise of the stuff, but he was no connoisseur, since, like me, he spent the bulk of his early life in Mississippi, which remained dry until 1966.
Consequently, we were able to avail ourselves only of the brands the local bootlegger had on offer, which, in the case of bourbon, was generally Old Crow- a favorite of Grant, Mark Twain, and our postman, for whom my mother left a bottle in the mailbox every Christmas.
Percy preferred Early Times-in his "Love in the Ruins," the protagonist holes up in an abandoned Howard Johnson's with 15 cases of it, along with three good-looking women and the world's great books-mainly, he said, because at 80 proof he could drink more of it. Percy would likely be amused at today's profusion of artisanal-style "small batch" bourbons, brands like Blanton's Single Barrel, Woodford Reserve, and Eagle Rare. Crafted by "master distillers," they recall bourbon's heyday at the opening of the 20th century, when almost 200 hundred brands of straight bourbon, each with very distinct characteristics, vied for drinkers' approval.
Bourbon's individuality comes from the quality of the oak barrels in which it is aged and the environment in which they are stored, as well as the length of aging and final strength. The resulting range of nuances can be so varied that a tasting vocabulary not unlike that which is ordinarily reserved for fine wine is often used to describe them. Percy happily settled for "the little explosion of Kentucky U.S.A. sunshine in the cavity of the nasophayrnx," but were he alive to drink, say, a 16-year-old A.H.
Hirsh Reserve, he might have also detected, as one critic did, "smoky, floral aromas" and flavors of "fruit and chocolate." Likewise, Evan Williams Single Barrel Vintage 1998 is said to boast aromas of "brown banana, cloves, and glove leather," while 12-year-old W.L. Weller has a "complex and toasty palate" and a "sweet and okay" finish.
A life-long Scotch drinker, I have never shared the tendency of my fellow Southerners toward American whiskey (Percy said drinking Scotch was like looking at a picture of Noel Coward; Faulkner said if forced to choose between Scotch and nothing, he'd take Scotch). But some of the small batch brands have finally made me a believer, and I'm not alone: since 2002, sales of super-premium bourbons (those costing more than $30) have risen by more than 60 percent. My favorite, 20-year-old Pappy van Winkle's Family Reserve, is as suave and rich as a fine brandy-and, at about $100, as expensive. But for less than half the money, I am also happy to sip, neat or on the rocks, Knob Creek or Basil Hayden's-both Jim Beam brands. (I think the real reason I abjured bourbon for so long was that so many drinkers of my generation inevitably mixed it with Coke.)
Though I have come late to drinking bourbon, I have long understood the benefits of cooking with it. Bourbon balls (a mixture of crushed vanilla wafers, chopped pecans, corn syrup, bourbon, powdered sugar, and sometimes cocoa) are a traditional Christmas treat, and my mother always puts a healthy dose of bourbon in her holiday charlotte russe. My friend Robert Carter at Charleston's Peninsula Grill features bourbon-grilled shrimp with creamed-corn sauce, Hoppin John and green-onion hushpuppies on his menu, and at Birmingham's excellent Hot and Hot Fish Club, Chris and Idie Hastings offer up a sublime toddy made with fig-infused bourbon over ice and garnished with a bourbon-soaked fig.
In these trying times, bourbon, with or without the fig, is a wholly American and appropriate indulgence. Percy would approve. Dr. Tom More, his character who took refuge with the Early Times, was doing so because in the "dread latter days of the old violent beloved U.S.A.", pure "wickedness" abounded in "high places" and all hell had broken loose; he was anticipating nothing less than the end of the world. If that scenario sounds scarily familiar, take heart. At the novel's end, not only is the world still in tact, but More has married the best of the three women and is outside on his patio, merrily barbecuing a turkey on Christmas Eve. His accompaniments are the songs of Sinatra and several restorative shots of bourbon. There are worse remedies.

tech-ninja 01-05-2009 11:50 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Maduro (Post 150395)
At a friend's yesterday, I tried Four Roses Single Barrell as well as Old Forester's Birthday Batch 2007. The Four Roses was ok, but I'll be searching out a bottle of Old Foresters!!:tu

I got some Four Roses Small Batch for Christmas. Good stuff. Paired very nicely with an 80's ERDM Lonsdale.

I will have to try out the Foresters. :tu

Mr.Maduro 01-08-2009 07:04 PM

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Picked up 2 new ones....

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n.../weller107.jpg

and

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n.../vanwink12.jpg

I'm having the Old Weller Antique Original 107 Brand and I got to say its the best $22. bourbon I've ever had! What a bargain! The Van Winkle 12 year is actually harder to find that the 20 or 23 year, because its like 1/2 the price of the 20.

BTW... my local shop still has 2 - 2008 George T. Staggs and 1 - 2008 Eagle Rare. They're going for around $75 each +tax.

JohnnyFlake 01-08-2009 08:00 PM

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I thought I'd post a picture of the bottles of Bourbon/Whiskey that I have on hand for sipping when I enjoy my cigars and pipes! May be a few others will do the same.

Scottw 01-08-2009 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by newcigarz (Post 134122)

YUUUUUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!! How is it?

Scottw 01-08-2009 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyFlake (Post 158300)
I thought I'd post a picture of the bottles of Bourbon/Whiskey that I have on hand for sipping when I enjoy my cigars and pipes! May be a few others will do the same.

I found 1 bottle of that Old Fitz at some hole in the wall last winter. When I finished it, i went back for more and they were out. Ihave not seen it since. Are they still producing this?

Ken 01-09-2009 06:28 AM

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Old Fitzgerald is still produced unless something recently changed. I couldn't image that brand being discontinued.

JohnnyFlake 01-09-2009 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Scottw (Post 158397)
I found 1 bottle of that Old Fitz at some hole in the wall last winter. When I finished it, i went back for more and they were out. Ihave not seen it since. Are they still producing this?

That old Fitz 12yo is some very good stuff. I reach for it often!

newcigarz 01-09-2009 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Scottw (Post 158394)
YUUUUUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!! How is it?

Sorry 17 is below the legal age of consent. I'm waiting until this bottle is 18 :r

CoroHo 01-09-2009 01:48 PM

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I'm not much of a bourbon guy but I really like George Dickel Barrel Select. Wow.

BengalMan 01-10-2009 06:53 PM

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I think I'm going to go with some Sazerac Rye tonight. The Party Source has a special barrel select version of it that is very good.

floydp 01-11-2009 05:38 PM

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Its nice to see so many folks at CA that find enjoyment in some of this life's best value and quality products. "Bourbon". When sitting back and enjoying a cigar with friends I find myself pouring Gentlemen Jack in my glass more than anything else. Its not the best by any means but I simply love the smoothness of it.

Like everything else we all have our favorites. Rare Breed,Buf Trace, Knob Creek,Elijah Craig,EW single barrel among others are staples in these parts. Booker's and Pappy 15 year old when I got the dough for em.

A toast to yens bourbon hoes.

awsmith4 01-11-2009 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by floydp (Post 163044)
Its nice to see so many folks at CA that find enjoyment in some of this life's best value and quality products. "Bourbon". When sitting back and enjoying a cigar with friends I find myself pouring Gentlemen Jack in my glass more than anything else. Its not the best by any means but I simply love the smoothness of it.

Like everything else we all have our favorites. Rare Breed,Buf Trace, Knob Creek,Elijah Craig,EW single barrel among others are staples in these parts. Booker's and Pappy 15 year old when I got the dough for em.

A toast to yens bourbon hoes.

And a toast to you!


I have noticed a few people mention Elijah Craig, I will have to put it on the list for next run

floydp 01-11-2009 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by awsmith4 (Post 163088)
And a toast to you!


I have noticed a few people mention Elijah Craig, I will have to put it on the list for next run

Don't think you'll be sorry. 12 year old bourbon at a great price.

AngryBill 01-13-2009 12:55 PM

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Gotta love this years batch of Stagg. 144.8 proof.

JohnnyFlake 01-13-2009 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by AngryBill (Post 166563)
Gotta love this years batch of Stagg. 144.8 proof.

Now that's got to be an ass-kicker!!!

That's getting close to the maximum legal limit, for human consumption, which I believe is 160 proof!

BengalMan 01-13-2009 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyFlake (Post 166806)
Now that's got to be an ass-kicker!!!

That's getting close to the maximum legal limit, for human consumption, which I believe is 160 proof!

Nah, Everclear is 192 proof. We used to use 11 bottles per trash can of harry buffalo in college. :)

AngryBill 01-13-2009 10:12 PM

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But the Stagg Barrel Select is very smooth. Haven't had the '08 yet, but love the '07 which was 144.4 (at work, so not sure)

newcigarz 01-14-2009 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by AngryBill (Post 166563)
Gotta love this years batch of Stagg. 144.8 proof.

* 2002: 137.6 proof/68.8% ABV
* 2003 142.7 proof/71.35% ABV
* 2004: 129 proof/64.5% ABV
* Spring 2005 Lot A: Kentucky release, 130.9 proof/65.45% ABV
* Spring 2005 Lot B: non-Kentucky release, 131.8 proof/65.9% ABV
* Fall 2005 141.2 proof/70.6% ABV
* 2006 140.6 proof/70.3% ABV
* 2007 144.8 proof/72.4% ABV
* 2008: 141.8/70.9% ABV

BengalMan 01-14-2009 07:43 PM

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Wow, went to 10 liquor stores in KY this week, and not a single one had Rittenhouse Bottled in Bond, much less any Rittenhouse at all. Very unfortunate for me....

Mr.Maduro 01-15-2009 09:09 AM

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I cracked this one open last night. Really nice presentation commemorating the end of prohibition. The bourbon was decent, nothing to go crazy over. But a pretty cool set nonetheless. Pretty hard to find around these parts, but there's always eBay ;) The Old Forester Birthday Batch is a way better bourbon if you can find that one.

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...o/forester.jpg


-Old Forester Bourbon 75th Anniversary Gift Set
-375 ml Bottle -100 Proof
This Gift set Commemorates the 75th Year anniversary of the repeal of prohibition. The bottle is a copy of the original bottle sold before prohibition, when George Garvin Brown made it available in glass bottles before Prohibition.
When Prohibition took effect in 1920, George was ready. Old Forester applied for and was granted a government license to continue distributing whisky for medicinal purpose-one of only six whiskies to receive this special dispensation.
December 5, 2008 marks the 75th anniversary of the repeal of Prohibition.
The set includes :
375 ml bottle of whiskey
Etched Bourbon Glass
Copy of the Amendment to the Constitution which repealed the sale of Alcohol in the United States
It also tells you how to Register your Personal Bottle of Old Forester


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