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Wow that was very enlightening...Thanks for the explanation on the real deal on wrappers. Glad you set Red straight. I need to pay more attention on this site so many knowledgeable cigar guys on here willing to help out a newb.

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Try it sometime. Swap the wrappers off two cigars you like that have different wrapper leafs and tell me you much of a difference you notice :tu

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I wont do that with cigars i like ,i cant roll them back up. Why do all the 601's taste so different ,if they are only different by the wrappers? Has to be something too that!

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Why not? It's not that hard and you might learn something from it. Like I said earlier before this this thread became sandwich banter, I don't know about the 601 blends, there could well be differences in the blend. Greg mentioned they were all the same, i've never smoked one so I can't be sure. All i'm trying to do is point out that the wrapper doesn't have as much impact on the flavor as what red is saying on thick RG cigars. It contributes to the flavor but it doesn't dominate it. If your not willing to try it for yourself, next time your at a herf do a blind taste test and see how well you do.

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There seems to be a trend, evident in this thread, of turning a serious discussion about cigars into meaningless drivel. Some folks are repeat offenders and have certainly gained some unwanted attention. An occasional joke or diversion is fun but if the salient points are drowned out, the value of any informations is lost.

Keep this one on track or it's done.

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:tpd:

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I am fairly new to CA, but not new to cigars or the forums. There have been a LOT of people on here that have been very friendly, welcoming and generous to me here - a lot of great folks here for sure. But I have to wonder why some FOGs on forums feel the need to call "n00b" if the person is someone they don't personally know? Or why do they feel their opinion holds any more merit than the others?

The initial responses from both NCRadioMan and pnoon were condescending and sarcastic. Smitty seemed to be discussing the topic but then comes on to yell NOOB!

pnoon, when Red said to try the wrapper test yourself your reply was to say "that settles it" and then toss in a :rolleyes: for good measure. Why? Red made a good point. If the 601's all have the exact same blend, and the wrappers make very little difference, then why do the 601's all taste so different from each other? Seems like a pretty darn good question to me.

Three years in the business is really not that long, I've been in my industry for 10 years now and I've still got plenty to learn. I know B&M owners that have been in the business for 15-20 years, and they still ask me things. Not that I know MORE than they do, but I may know something DIFFERENT than they do - we learn from each other.

The thread went into chicken and sandwich 'drivel' because a couple of the FOGs here made it clear that the opinions of the n00bs we're invalid. Red made a statement in his OP, some didn't agree with it, but the conversation was going fine until a couple people got sarcastic and started calling names - and it wasn't the noob that did it.

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Wrappers are 100% of the flavor I don't care what you say LOL ...that's what I've been saying the whole time cuz I'm dumb and ignorant and that's what I really believe. If you take the wrapper off the cigar then has zero flavor. Infact I think all cigars are the same binder and filler And the only thing different is the wrappers ..I'm done now with this thread... Thx for your time
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Well said Tim.

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Much can be lost in internet communication. My reply was in response to Red's statement that "wrapper makes a HUGE difference. Plain and simple" I found that to be a rather condescending statement. Hence my reply. Red's no expert. Nor am I. But I do recognize when someone purports to have the answer to the exclusion of other opinions.

:2

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I do believe taste is subjective. If I had to break down the 601 line from mild to strong it would be Blue, Black, Red, Green. I got a few different 601's that I'm tempted to swap some wrappers around. The RG does have a lot to do when it comes to the wrapper. The San Cristobal line is a great example since it's the same blend across the board except the "Guajiro" which has a different one. So taste and compare some different size San Cristobal's and it might be a surprise.

After working at a cigar shop for a few years and getting to know the regulars really well it's interesting how some people pick up different flavors or gravitate towards certain cigars. I had smokers that either smoked the whole 601 line to just one from the line.

Another one to discuss would be the Padron base line which I believe is the same blend. Comparing the natural to the maduro there is a small difference in flavor.

Its just cuz I'm a "pnoob" and you gotta take sides with the fog's no biggiy I understand you conviction..shut er down and give me infractions
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pnoob - :r
nobody has to take sides with a FOG just because he's a FOG.
I can shut the thread down if you wish.
give you infractions-none warranted here

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Can we start a chicken banter...cuz that was the most fun I've had in a while :)
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Sure. But this thread is not the place for it.

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ok so can i ask is the padron 1926's the same blend or different... one wrapper is maduro and one is natural...they are both very different to me.

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Red pay attention wrappers give very little flavor.Wow you are slow.

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red is being serious, let the guy speak, I'm interested in what others opinion on the 1926 are. I haven't been too impressed with these. :(

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Man they're harsh on the noobs on this site.

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Not really. Just don't act like Red and you be good :tu

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Ha Ha! Yeah he's a douche!

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To the contrary....this site is more tolerable than others when it comes to newer members. This site has a lot of members. Some more knowledgeable than others. Threads like these tell a lot about the types of members we have here. It seems that some of these "question" threads are anything but. More like a mish mash discussion thread about nothing with insults thrown in for good measure. The guys that have years of experience with cigars (or FOG's if you will) that can answer these questions shy away from these threads because they don't want to deal with the nonsense.

In summary.....read more, post less. If newbs have a question be polite and ask. Be respectfull if someone takes the time to answer your question. Don't troll or be a post whore. We all share the same love of the leaf here. Just my :2

*** just to clarify, this is not directed at Doom, just my thoughts in general.

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Dude I've been smoking cigars for years.
Because I just joined this forum gives you or no other the right to suggest otherwise. The point of this thread was almost immediately subverted by smarmy, know it all replies to the initial topic. I use the word "noob" because it was sarcastically applied to people who have been in the cigar community for years who posted in this thread. To me the comments that set Red going seemed to be loaded with pure elitism and that ****'s just a joke.

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I posted before seeing your clarifying statement, but most still holds true.

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Wrong. I called red a newb because of his behavior here. His posts have been pretty juvenile, this thread especially. I don't care if you've been smoking cigars for 20 years, if you join a new place and act like a 16 year old with add, well expect some backlash. This isn't CO, or Puff, or CF or whatever place you've been posting on for years. Nobody here knows you, so to us your all new ;)

And i tried to play along and offer a differing viewpoint, but your buddies were pretty set in their ways and dragged the thread into mindless banter. There's no elitism, just an attempt at conversation that went south cause your buddies know it all :tu

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I wasn't talking about you.
You seem to be a voice of reason.

This on the other hand....

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When it comes to the padron 26 it seem like the same blend to me with the different wraps on them. :2

I'm sure someone could chime in on it.

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i think VS is on the wrong forum..he should sign up for a guidance counslar forum and heal the ill..he is so smart with his words of wisdom..he could really change the world..maybe teach me how to spell

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I don't think anyone can teach you how to spell Red! You can't teach an old dog new tricks.

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This thread has little hope of anything positive going forward.

We're done here.