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Da Klugs 09-28-2009 09:38 AM

Re: Are cuban cigars really the best?
 
It's a question that needs to be answered by each smoker... what they prefer to smoke. One answer is that a large percentage of those who explore the issue end up with a concurrence to your question. It might just all be peer pressure and herd mentality though. :)

Best for what type of smoker is also a germane point. NC cigars are trending towards two seemingly dichotomous points. 1. Stronger and stronger blends which would seem to appeal to "mouth only" smokers and the Jolt cola generation who follow the more is better mantra. 2. Specially blended, crafted and packaged cigars that more and more are demonstrating the depth and nuance experienced in Cuban cigars through the nasal exhale.

Remember that the Cubans had a couple hundred year head start on the cultivation and processes. NC cigar makers seem to be able to get much closer to the smoking and flavor profiles in the past few years. Getting closer to a comparable price point is a more difficult issue.

HK3- 09-28-2009 10:02 AM

Re: Are cuban cigars really the best?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackDog (Post 571111)
Are cigars from the B&M better than cigars bought from e-tailers? :r

:rolleyes:

Oh man, please don't start that one again! :fu

gnukfu 09-28-2009 10:04 AM

Re: Are cuban cigars really the best?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dunng (Post 569733)
Depends what you like... for me it's mostly Pepin or Cuban... :tu

:tpd:

Addiction 09-28-2009 10:09 AM

Re: Are cuban cigars really the best?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Da Klugs (Post 571204)
........1. Stronger and stronger blends which would seem to appeal to "mouth only" smokers and the Jolt cola generation who follow the more is better mantra. 2. Specially blended, crafted and packaged cigars that more and more are demonstrating the depth and nuance experienced in Cuban cigars through the nasal exhale........

I'd agree with these points, and it seems more and more mouth smokers are confusing strength for flavor or probably more appropriately for goodness. there are so many cigars that I loved as a mouth smoker that I can't deal with as a nose smoker.

I'd also agree that there are some tasty noncubans out there but those cigars are typically, in my opinion, a little less nuanced and complex than their CC counterparts.

beamish 09-29-2009 04:42 AM

Re: Are cuban cigars really the best?
 
better taste...higher chance of plugged stick...:2

2000ARMY 09-29-2009 05:04 AM

Re: Are cuban cigars really the best?
 
I switched over to CC's and I don't plan on going back to NC's.

elderboy02 09-29-2009 05:05 AM

Re: Are cuban cigars really the best?
 
I like both. I would say I like NC's more right now b/c I like a spicier and full bodied cigar. I would say I smoke NC's 60% of the time and CC's 40% of the time.

One thing I absolutely hate about CC's is the poor construction. I hate having a plugged cigar :2

I don't think I have had a plugged NC.

Tredegar 09-29-2009 09:43 AM

Re: Are cuban cigars really the best?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by elderboy02 (Post 572644)

I don't think I have had a plugged NC.

Then you haven't had a Tatuaje Lancero....

As an added note, I will be switching to CCs almost exclusively when the embargo lifts.

King James 09-29-2009 10:44 AM

Re: Are cuban cigars really the best?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tredegar (Post 572969)
Then you haven't had a Tatuaje Lancero....

As an added note, I will be switching to CCs almost exclusively when the embargo lifts.

After that happens the argument about many regular production CCs being cheaper than NCs will almost certainly go out the door

Mr.Maduro 09-29-2009 10:51 AM

Re: Are cuban cigars really the best?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tredegar (Post 572969)
Then you haven't had a Tatuaje Lancero....

As an added note, I will be switching to CCs almost exclusively when the embargo lifts.

Start saving your $$ now and expect the quality to be worse when all the embargo supplies are exhausted.

TripleF 09-29-2009 11:19 AM

Re: Are cuban cigars really the best?
 
ABSOLUTELY NOT.

Give me $10,000 to spend on cigars and I wouldn't spend 5 cents of it on cc's.

SkinsFanLarry 09-29-2009 11:28 AM

Re: Are cuban cigars really the best?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tredegar (Post 572969)
Then you haven't had a Tatuaje Lancero....

As an added note, I will be switching to CCs almost exclusively when the embargo lifts.

I've gone thru more than three (3) boxes of the Tat Lancero's and not a single one was plugged....nice draw on every one of them! :tu

....and I'm definately with you Triple F! :tu

ahc4353 09-29-2009 11:31 AM

Re: Are cuban cigars really the best?
 
I'm so glad this question has finally been cleared up! :D

Easy 09-29-2009 11:46 AM

Re: Are cuban cigars really the best?
 
I say yes. Not everyone will ever agree, one way or another. To each his own.

icehog3 09-29-2009 01:04 PM

Re: Are cuban cigars really the best?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TripleF (Post 573126)
ABSOLUTELY NOT.

Give me $10,000 to spend on cigars and I wouldn't spend 5 cents of it on cc's.

Can you buy me a box of Party Shorts, Scott? :)

Smoke what you like, like what you smoke. ;)

Blueface 09-29-2009 01:25 PM

Re: Are cuban cigars really the best?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ahc4353 (Post 573135)
I'm so glad this question has finally been cleared up! :D

:r:r:r

This topic reminds me of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2xMGI-QpZw

Da Klugs 09-29-2009 01:40 PM

Re: Are cuban cigars really the best?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 573352)
:r:r:r

This topic reminds me of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2xMGI-QpZw


:tu:r

Mugen910 09-29-2009 01:42 PM

Re: Are cuban cigars really the best?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 573301)
Can you buy me a box of Party Shorts, Scott? :)

Smoke what you like, like what you smoke. ;)

I'd take a box of HU CM's :tu :dr

ahc4353 09-29-2009 02:02 PM

Re: Are cuban cigars really the best?
 
Reminds me of THIS.

Blueface 09-29-2009 02:20 PM

Re: Are cuban cigars really the best?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ahc4353 (Post 573430)
Reminds me of THIS.

:r:r:r

T.G 09-29-2009 02:20 PM

Re: Are cuban cigars really the best?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ahc4353 (Post 573135)
I'm so glad this question has finally been cleared up! :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 573352)
:r:r:r

This topic reminds me of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2xMGI-QpZw

I was actually thinking of something more like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IU1bzZheWk


--------------

EDIT: Nevermind. This was already posted and I missed it.

bookman 09-29-2009 02:50 PM

Re: Are cuban cigars really the best?
 
CCs are like cigars from the land of dreams or another dimension they have the same names as cigars you see everyday in the B&M but they are not the same then they have different names they smell better when you open the box and they taste better so its like you are smoking cigars froma nother dimension.

bookman

bookman 09-29-2009 03:38 PM

Re: Are cuban cigars really the best?
 
Or to put it this way: NCs are Phil Collins Genesis. CCs are Peter Gabriel Genesis.

Resipsa 09-29-2009 04:01 PM

Re: Are cuban cigars really the best?
 
http://fast1.onesite.com/fans.wwe.co...thread_die.jpg

Just sayin......

Blueface 09-29-2009 04:47 PM

Re: Are cuban cigars really the best?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Resipsa (Post 573648)

No way Vic.
I say expand the topic. :r

Assuming Cubans are the best, what are the best Cubans?
Assuming Cubans are not the best, what are the best non Cubans?
Assuming you don't know, what would you guess?
Assuming you would guess, why would you guess that?

ChicagoWhiteSox 09-29-2009 04:49 PM

Re: Are cuban cigars really the best?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 573760)
No way Vic.
I say expand the topic. :r

Assuming Cubans are the best, what are the best Cubans?
Assuming Cubans are not the best, what are the best non Cubans?
Assuming you don't know, what would you guess?
Assuming you would guess, why would you guess that?

:r

T.G 09-29-2009 04:59 PM

Re: Are cuban cigars really the best?
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqvBIR0k1_o

bookman 09-29-2009 05:12 PM

Re: Are cuban cigars really the best?
 
Why should this thread die? It sems like a good one.

kgoings 09-29-2009 05:20 PM

Re: Are cuban cigars really the best?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bax (Post 569864)
I'm about a 50/50 CC vs. NC smoker right now. For strength and spice the NC's have it hands down. As for depth and nuance it's CC's.
I prefer a medium strength cigar so the cubans are right up my alley. The price is another huge factor.

You choose, a box of Fuentes for 400 bucks or a box of Party shorts and a box of Montes #4's and a box Bolivar Gold Medals. For me, it's a no brainer.

:tpd:

When I do go back and smoke an NC, it is usually a Hemmingway, VSG, Pepin, or Illusione.

Blueface 09-29-2009 06:20 PM

Re: Are cuban cigars really the best?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bookman (Post 573810)
Why should this thread die? It sems like a good one.

:r

This will have a "final answer" or consensus once we can figure out what came first, the chicken or the egg.:D

pnoon 09-29-2009 06:21 PM

Re: Are cuban cigars really the best?
 
Cello on? or off?

Smokin Gator 09-29-2009 06:24 PM

Re: Are cuban cigars really the best?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 573966)
Cello on? or off?

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo... not that one:su

Blueface 09-29-2009 06:54 PM

Re: Are cuban cigars really the best?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 573966)
Cello on? or off?

Oh no!!!!!!!!!
What have you done Peter?

OK,
I'll bite.:r

OFF

M1903A1 09-29-2009 07:07 PM

Re: Are cuban cigars really the best?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Resipsa (Post 573648)

BUMP! :r

:lv

Ratters 09-29-2009 07:09 PM

Re: Are cuban cigars really the best?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 573966)
Cello on? or off?

I prefer to smoke mine with the cello off, but whatever floats your boat.


:tf :ss

Fishbeadtwo 09-29-2009 08:31 PM

Re: Are cuban cigars really the best?
 
torch or soft flame?

chippewastud79 09-29-2009 08:32 PM

Re: Are cuban cigars really the best?
 
Palio or Xikar? :hm

longknocker 09-29-2009 08:33 PM

Re: Are cuban cigars really the best?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 573966)
Cello on? or off?

Not Again!!!!:r

longknocker 09-29-2009 08:34 PM

Re: Are cuban cigars really the best?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fishbeadtwo (Post 574183)
torch or soft flame?

Quote:

Originally Posted by chippewastud79 (Post 574184)
Palio or Xikar? :hm

:bh:bh:r

KenS 09-29-2009 08:37 PM

Re: Are cuban cigars really the best?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 573966)
Cello on? or off?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fishbeadtwo (Post 574183)
torch or soft flame?

Quote:

Originally Posted by chippewastud79 (Post 574184)
Palio or Xikar? :hm

I'm a CC-Cello off-Torch-Palio "snob" myself :ss

Tarks 09-29-2009 08:52 PM

Re: Are cuban cigars really the best?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 573966)
Cello on? or off?

If we would all just smoke cc's then we wouldn't have to answer that question!

T.G 09-29-2009 08:54 PM

Re: Are cuban cigars really the best?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 573966)
Cello on? or off?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tarks (Post 574219)
If we would all just smoke cc's then we wouldn't have to answer that question!

Maybe he was asking about machine mades...

icehog3 09-29-2009 08:56 PM

Re: Are cuban cigars really the best?
 
Feed me enough liquor (like the night in question), and I will tell you about trying to smoke a cigar with the cedar still on. :r

Resipsa 09-30-2009 01:31 PM

Re: Are cuban cigars really the best?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 574227)
Feed me enough liquor (like the night in question), and I will tell you about trying to smoke a cigar with the cedar still on. :r

was it woody? I often wondered if leaving the cedar on cigars increased the woodiness of them.

Blueface 09-30-2009 01:42 PM

Re: Are cuban cigars really the best?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Resipsa (Post 575380)
was it woody?

Be careful with words like that. My wife may get some ideas.:r

bookman 10-01-2009 11:35 AM

Re: Are cuban cigars really the best?
 
I like to light my cigars with the burning cello.

mariogolbee 10-02-2009 12:45 AM

Re: Are cuban cigars really the best?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by T.G (Post 573784)

I've been trying to get a copy of that movie. Es muy dificil.

mariogolbee 10-02-2009 12:50 AM

Re: Are cuban cigars really the best?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tarks (Post 574219)
If we would all just smoke cc's then we wouldn't have to answer that question!

Not everyone has got it like that. I've found Real ones pretty difficult to get a hold of most of the time. Supposedly something like 97% of what comes here is fake anyway.:(

T.G 10-02-2009 10:38 AM

Re: Are cuban cigars really the best?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mariogolbee (Post 578900)
Not everyone has got it like that. I've found Real ones pretty difficult to get a hold of most of the time. Supposedly something like 97% of what comes here is fake anyway.:(

LOL.

Tapout/Legend, izzat you? :D;s

SilverFox 10-02-2009 10:49 AM

Re: Are cuban cigars really the best?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mariogolbee (Post 578900)
Not everyone has got it like that. I've found Real ones pretty difficult to get a hold of most of the time. Supposedly something like 97% of what comes here is fake anyway.:(



:confused::confused:

Where did you get that stat??


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