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Yes, really. Your whole team being back is part of the problem. The Pats have drafted very poorly for several years now, and it's starting to come home to roost.

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DUDES!!! Did you guys see that?!

:banger

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Yes u guys did a mediocre job against a JV team. Good Job!

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What? The Jets being outplayed until they faced the scrubs.?

Yes, we saw how bad the Jets are, :r

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Oh yeah.. cuz JV teams remain undefeated for 14 straight games...:rolleyes:

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You must not have seen that, or else you don't understand that Peyton Manning IS the Colts. Without him, they are just a JV team.

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C'mon... seriously? Payton is prolly the strongest member on the team, but it takes more than one guy to stay undefeated for the lion's share of the season. It's not like the Jets are a great team (as this season shows), but they actually showed up yesterday... can't write the whole game off as luck or Missing Manning Syndrome.

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Dan,
While the Jets with Jarvis have a very, very good defense and could have likely prevailed regardless (depending on which Jets offense showed up), the fact remains Manning IS the Colts. That game proved it. I don't think the Jets would have had that defensive touchdown had Manning been in the pocket. That play made that game for the Jets. So in that regard, Manning was in fact the major key to NOT losing that game.

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They just didn't pull Manning Carlos, they pulled everybody. Addai, (who barely played at all), Wayne, Freeney, Collie, Clark, basically the entire starting units on both sides of the ball. Up until they pulled everybody the Colts had 320 yards of offense, that was midway thru the third. That equates to 500 or more yards for a complete game. I don't know if you watched or not, but the Colts had very little trouble with the "vaunted" Jets defense, and that was with barely playing Addai, Garcon didn't play at all.

On offense the Jets did nothing until the Colts second string defense was in. For example, 32 yards of rushing from the "great" Jets rushing game in the first half, and I think they had a total of 100 yards of offense at the break. Once the scrubs went in they finished with more than 200 rushing yards.

That's what peeves me off so much about the game, they pulled EVERYBODY and let the entire second unit play on both sides of the ball. They just handed the Jets the game. This was a typical game where the closeness of the score when the starters were pulled doesn't really reflect the reality of the game.

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I wonder if the Bengals will play their starters..... :hm

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Vic,
All I know is I would be very pissed as a Colts fan.
I was pissed and am not one.
They truly had a chance at history.
Unlike the Patriots, I think most of America would have been rooting for them to go all the way.

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Gotta agree with the majority here... I am a Jets fan to the core but I know we wouldn't have won if they hadn't pulled starters.


With that said I don't give a F&%^BECAUSE IF WE WIN NEXT WEEK WE'RE IN THE PLAYOFFS!!!!

Suck that Miami fans!! Suck that Giants fans!!!

WE WILL BE IN THE PLAYOFFS WITH A ROOKIE COACH AND A ROOKIE QB!!

Not to shabby if I do say so myself. ;) :tu

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Seriously Joe, and what will getting into the playoffs get the Jets? For some teams, once you're in the playoffs anything can happen. That doesn't apply to teams like the Jets who are so much worse than the contending SB teams, the Jets have zero shot to win anything.

So again, what does sneaking into the playoffs get them. A lower draft pick and a tougher schedule next year, ;)

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Vic,
So true.
While I understand what you mean, die hard Jets fans such as my brother in law just don't get it.
Putting ourselves in their shoes, since 1969, all the Jets have managed to do is relatively very, very rarely make it into the playoffs.
Now, given that, one can understand the sheer joy of at least getting there only to quickly fizzle away and say "next year".
I think I see what I have been missing now.:r

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Come on Joe.
How long have you been a Jets fan?
How can you possibly make these statements with that big IF in the way?:r

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You say we have zero shot... you keep forgetting we have the best defense and best running game in the league. We can and have beat good teams this year.

Indy supposedly has a chance every year and every year they are out in the first round or soon after.

We have just as much of a shot as the Pats, the Bengals, Denver...


We may not go anywhere, but the fact that we got into the playoffs with a rookie coach and a rookie QB tells me that the coming years will be much better for us when both of them have that much more experience and poise.

It tells me that we will be a contender as soon as next year.

So laugh it up, yup we snuck in, we shouldn't be in the playoffs. We have a history of beating the better teams in the playoffs... ie Indy, San Deigo...

Like I said before the Jets only have one hole... QB.

Our defense is top 5, our run game is top 5, our special teams is top 5, our O-line is top 5. We have THE best corner in the league. The only reason we are gonna finish 9-7 this year is because we have a rookie QB and he's making rookie mistakes. You can't win if your QB is turning the ball over 4-5x a game. So say what you want but we will be a force to reckon with in the playoffs and next year.:tu

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I agree with what you say above, Carlos... I'd be super-pissed if I were a colts fan and people would root for a team that had the record and not the scandal (not that I cared much about that Pats "scandal"... I really wanted to see them win so I could experience a fully undefeated team in my lifetime).

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Because we can and have played better teams than the Bengals and won... and because I'm a fan. :r

No matter how many times I've been disappointed before I know next time will be different. I have battered wife syndrome. :(

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Your best defense and and run game looked pretty bad against the Colts starters.

Tell you what. The way things are shaping up, the Jets get in, they'll play the Bengals in the first round. IF they beat them, they'll go to Indy for a rematch.

Let's make a bet as to who wins the rematch. Cigars at ten paces............

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:r:r:r

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Troy Polamalu.
/argument. ;)
Yes, Dan. One guy does a team make in lots of instances.
It's parity. Salary cap. It waters down the league and makes an even playing field.
It takes a lot of brains and a lot of luck to win on that field nowadays.
"Any Given Sunday" is alive and well.
In a sense, I love it. But I SO miss Kurt Warner's Rams and Joe Montana's 9er's and Terry Bradshaw's Steelers and John Riggin's Redskins (or Joe Theismann's, if you wanna argue).
Those clubs were so deep and so deadly.
Now, you sit Peyton down or Troy blows a knee and it's a struggle for a club. The Steelers are INCREDIBLY deep. The talent on that club is amazing. All a team has to do is come to town and exploit a lackluster secondary and an offensive coordinator who is too stupid to use his running game, and there ya have it.
Everybody really has to be on the same page all the time for a long season, and that's tough.

If there's two amazing stories in the NFL this year, it's Kurt Warner and Kurt Warner. There's the epitome of a one man show, if we take Peyton's club out of the mix.

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The Jets are killing right now... their D is unstoppable!

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PLAYOFFS HERE WE COME!!!!

If we can play like this next week I have no doubts we'll make it to the next round... Our defense has been playing lights out and our run game is unstoppable!

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Great win indeed.
Big "if" they play this way next week.
Let's see if they can do it twice in a row.

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That is a big IF. Remember, that Cedric Benson, and Domata Peko sat yesterday. I like the Bengals chances, however if NY comes out of the gates and scores quickly, we may be in trouble. Everyone knows the Jets can't pass, so if they score and can then run the ball all day, we might be in for a long day.

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I don't know, that was a nice short pass to Cotchery for a TD yesterday.

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Cedric Benson won't make that much of a difference against the Jets defense. They have been playing lights out defense for the last 5 weeks. Ochocinco is a non-issue when Revis covers him.

Your defense can't stop our run game as witnessed yesterday and you say we can't pass yet you forget that Sanchez has racked up ~2500 passing yards this season.

The Bengals played to win yesterday and came up very short. I have a hard time believing that had Cedric Benson and Domata Peko played it wouldn't have been 30-0 at the end of the first. Call me crazy.

I have an eerie feeling that Sanchez will play better under the pressure of a playoff game. I honestly don't know why I feel that way, maybe because I've noticed he plays better when he's up against a defense that flushes him out of the pocket and makes him scramble.

Call me a homer if you want but I think our chances are better than New England, better than Baltimore, definitely better than Cinci....

Like I've said before even if we are 1 and done, its a sign of good things to come.

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Joe,
While a Giants fan that doesn't dislike the Jets, in fact, I feel bad for them, that comment of "even if we are 1 and done, its a sign of good things to come" has been said since 1969 by many Jets fans.
I honestly don't see the Jets, constantly being somewhere in the .500 ballpark, putting a solid team together the following year.
I honestly think they will be what they are, what they have been, for a long while to come.
My brother in law is like a brother to me. He is probably the most dedicated Jets fan I know. While I would like to see them win to reward his long term dedication to them, even he realizes what I have just said is true.
However, as a fan, don't blame you for being optimistic. Just keep optimistic in check with realistic.:)
One very good thing going for them is their defense. If they can play the way they did this weekend, consistently, well, we all know, a great defense will always beat a great offense.

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Just when you start sounding sensible, you say something like "the Bengals played to win yesterday." :r
The fruck did you hit your head on? :r :r :r

Like I said way back at the beginning of this thread, Sanchez is gonna be great. The Jets won't hold on to him, because they don't have the sense.
I expect they'll keep him two more years and he's gone. He'll take up anywhere else, blossom, and put up incredible numbers.
He's my favorite new talent in the league, and I really thought he'd settle down this year, but he killed me in fantasy football.
With Cotchery available, the Jets have a shot.
They're one injury away from losing real bad, so hold your breath, Joe.
I think they have a good chance of getting past Baltimore, but I just lost a bet that Baltimore would flush this season, and they beat my Steelers into the playoffs.
Bruce Arians be damned. ;)

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Typically I would disagree, this time I don't... Like I've said before the only hole we have on the team is at QB and Sanchez will get better and fill that hole.

As I've said before we have one of the best defenses, one of the best O-lines and D-lines, the best run game in the league, and a top 5 special teams...

We have consistenly made great choices in the draft and will finally be able to capitalize on that.

If you disagree with anything I've written above tell me why?

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With that statement, I guess you blame 7 losses on Sanchez?

(Just playing Devil's Advocate here)

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I think on the positive side, no doubt Sanchez will blossom. He has exhibited amazing potential for a rookie, in spite of the bad games leading to 20+ interceptions.
No doubt the defense they have put together is stellar.
No doubt I think they finally have a very good head coach.

Here lies the problem with the Jets as I see it.
Somehow, regardless of all of the above, they find a way to mismanage the team.
It just seems that some organizations never get it together.
Somehow, it seems the Jets are in that rut.
Hopefully the future changes for them and hopefully, if they stay with the same team but build on it and stay healthy, you may in fact see them go beyond struggling to make the playoffs or first round. I think with their defense they have recently displayed, they can in fact win it all. However, that defense needs to show up week after week.
I recall the Giants of '86 as an example. They had an arguably mediocre offense but a consistently stellar defense, week after week.

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Straight from Marvin Lewis' mouth... The only starter they didn't play that would have had some what of an effect was Benson. They played starters till the second half and we still scored 27 points on them and shut them out.
Sanchez won't go anywhere... The Jets have staked there claim on him being as good as they think he will be.

And not for anything but any team is one injury away from losing real bad... You don't think losing Welker took away any chance the Pats have? Seriously?

How about Peyton? You don't think if he gets hurt that Indy's chances are done?

Anytime is one serious injury from losing.

I find it funny that will all the talent the Jets have and all the Pro Bowlers that we have on our team everyone still counts us out of everything. We haven't had a team this good in years. Count us out, I'm used to the Jets being the underdogs. However I think some people are gonna be awfully surprised now and in the future. ;)

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Well the Jets are something like 1-6 when we lose the turnover game. ;)

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i say, bring 'em on!!

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Congrats Jets fans. Your team played a great game.

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Congrats to you guys

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Congrats from a Buffalo Bills Fan!

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Congrats on a well deserved win! :tu

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Bring on Indy/San Deigo!!!

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They rose to the challenge.
Congrats!

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Off to San Diego!!!

Would much rather play San Diego than Peyton and the Colts, I'm not gonna lie.

I think it will be a great match-up and will finally showcase how good our team is if we can go there and win.

I think the weather will help Sanchez play better than he did this week, although it takes away our cold weather advantage. I think we will stick with the same game plan, run, run, run, and lights out defense.

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I was hoping to see the Jets next weekend. too bad.

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I'll bet you're bummed, Vic.
Now Peyton & Co. will have to figure out how to beat the Chargers. :)

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Your gonna have to make you way through us first. If you think its gonna be an easy game your crazy. Your defense is nowhere near as good as the Bengals defense was supposed to be, so we'll run all over the Bolts. Our defense has stood up to much better offenses, including the Saints, and kept them to under 14 points, so I don't see this game being the run away that San Diego fans think its gonna be.

Your odds of winning this game would have been much better if you were hosting the Pats...

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We shall see Peter. My thoughts re: the Jets and Sancheese haven't changed, question right is how the Colts will play against the Ravens.

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You are obviously a devout fan, Joe. But, according to you, the playoffs and Super Bowl really don't need to be played because the Jets are head and shoulders above everybody else in the league.
Last time I checked, the Chargers are at home with a record of 13-3. I could say the same to you. The Jets have to make their way thru San Diego.
While I may be crazy, I certainly don't think any NFL playoff game is "easy".
First of all, it is not my defense. However, do not under estimate the Chargers defense. And c'mon, the Bengals D was supposed to be good. To that I say :r
This San Diego fan doesn't think it will be a runaway.
Do you have numbers to back that claim? I'm just asking.


Bottom line is that it should be a helluva game.

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I was surprised to see the jets win that game actually. I think the bengals were overrated all season, but still. Before that game I wouldn't have given the Jets a chance to beat the Chargers, but now I think its going to be a very good game!


On another note, the NFC is looking STRONG! Should be interesting to see how things shake out.

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Bookmarking this thread with a post for my Bwahahahahahaha post next weekend.

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This is going to be painful.:r