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colimo 10-05-2009 12:30 AM

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unfortunately for you all, the Pats are going to run into the buzz saw that is the Denver Bronco Defense....
Broncos 14, pats 10

icehog3 10-05-2009 12:46 AM

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I am just excited that Johnny U. was referenced in a thread here other than one of mine. :)

Resipsa 10-05-2009 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 583321)
I am just excited that Johnny U. was referenced in a thread here other than one of mine. :)

Hey......:r

icehog3 10-05-2009 01:05 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Resipsa (Post 583329)
Hey......:r

Hey yerself. :)

2000ARMY 10-05-2009 01:23 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikey202 (Post 582925)
Brady just got call out by his old teammate, " Take off the skirt, and put on some slacks, BE A MAN!!!" Classic!!!! HAHA!!!!:D

This was a joke ..... Rodney texted Brady at halftime and told him he was going to say it .... Brady laughed.

2000ARMY 10-05-2009 01:23 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by colimo (Post 583304)
unfortunately for you all, the Pats are going to run into the buzz saw that is the Denver Bronco Defense....
Broncos 14, pats 10

I am not sure if you are serious.

Bruins Fan 10-05-2009 02:33 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Spitnchew (Post 582961)

Junior, done an interview at the Bruins game, and said if Bill called he was coming.
He may be forty but knows how to play the game, and will be a great guy in the locker room.:tu

timo 10-05-2009 03:51 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by colimo (Post 583304)
unfortunately for you all, the Pats are going to run into the buzz saw that is the Denver Bronco Defense....
Broncos 14, pats 10

HaHa the buzz saw that hasn't played anyone:r:r

taltos 10-05-2009 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Resipsa (Post 582970)
And the old, slow and fat just keep getting older, slower and fatter, :r:r:r

No need to insult me this early in the season.:su

dogface_313 10-05-2009 08:20 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruins Fan (Post 583347)
Junior, done an interview at the Bruins game, and said if Bill called he was coming.
He may be forty but knows how to play the game, and will be a great guy in the locker room.:tu

Agreed, they need a personality like his to be a leader on defense.

VTDragon 10-05-2009 08:36 AM

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I had the pleasure of being at yesterday's game and there were a bunch of mouthy Ravens fans sitting behind us. They were rude and obnoxious for a good part of the game but became VERY quiet during the fourth quarter. Even they did not seem to believe that the Ravens could score on their last drive.

Some observations:

Brady is improving every week. His timing and anticipation of where his receivers will be continue to improve. He will need to be at his best against McDaniels and company in Denver.

The young defense is also improving weekly. It was good to see Wilfork back in there and interesting that Baltimore's vaunted running game was essientially a no show against him and the Patriots defense. Hopefully we will get Mayo back for the Denver game.

Wes Welker makes a huge difference when he is in the game. With both him and Moss on the field at the same time defenses have a very hard time with the matchups. Someone is left in one on one coverage and Brady inevitably finds them. I am intrigued by the idea of Welker, Moss and Edelman all on the field at the same time.

Even I think the NFL has gone a bit too far with their protecting the quarterback rules. Whenever we get a QB hurry or sack, I find myself looking for the flag.

Lawrence Maroney should be relegated to the bench. He no longer has the will to stick his nose into a pile and run North and South. The only situation he is good at is catching a screen pass in the flat with no defender immediately in front of him.

The offensive line is playing well overall. T Brady mostly had lots of time to find receivers yesterday.

Overall a good win against a good team. Big game coming up against the undefeated Broncos next week. I think that the team that goes in with the most emotion will have the edge in this one. The whole Belicheck vs. MccDaniels thing will be what the network geniuses will be playing up. I'm thinking that the mentor might still have some lessons for his old student.

dogface_313 10-05-2009 09:59 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by VTDragon (Post 583669)
I had the pleasure of being at yesterday's game and there were a bunch of mouthy Ravens fans sitting behind us. They were rude and obnoxious for a good part of the game but became VERY quiet during the fourth quarter. Even they did not seem to believe that the Ravens could score on their last drive.

Some observations:

Brady is improving every week. His timing and anticipation of where his receivers will be continue to improve. He will need to be at his best against McDaniels and company in Denver.

The young defense is also improving weekly. It was good to see Wilfork back in there and interesting that Baltimore's vaunted running game was essientially a no show against him and the Patriots defense. Hopefully we will get Mayo back for the Denver game.

Wes Welker makes a huge difference when he is in the game. With both him and Moss on the field at the same time defenses have a very hard time with the matchups. Someone is left in one on one coverage and Brady inevitably finds them. I am intrigued by the idea of Welker, Moss and Edelman all on the field at the same time.

Even I think the NFL has gone a bit too far with their protecting the quarterback rules. Whenever we get a QB hurry or sack, I find myself looking for the flag.

Lawrence Maroney should be relegated to the bench. He no longer has the will to stick his nose into a pile and run North and South. The only situation he is good at is catching a screen pass in the flat with no defender immediately in front of him.

The offensive line is playing well overall. T Brady mostly had lots of time to find receivers yesterday.

Overall a good win against a good team. Big game coming up against the undefeated Broncos next week. I think that the team that goes in with the most emotion will have the edge in this one. The whole Belicheck vs. MccDaniels thing will be what the network geniuses will be playing up. I'm thinking that the mentor might still have some lessons for his old student.


I agree with everything you wrote. Offense looked much better this game. That last drive culminating with the TD pass to Moss looked great. They were certainly clicking.

Giant & 49er Fan 10-05-2009 10:02 AM

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Great game for the Pats! Fun to watch. :tu

dogface_313 10-06-2009 12:26 PM

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The Pats really need to play well now. I have just placed a 10 pk of cigars on the jets not winning the AFC East, the only ones who will stop them are the Patriots.

coastietech 10-06-2009 03:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dogface_313 (Post 586366)
The Pats really need to play well now. I have just placed a 10 pk of cigars on the jets not winning the AFC East, the only ones who will stop them are the Patriots.

Bwhahahahaha having doubts now, I see. :r

Start picking out the cigars you want to send me now. The Pats have no chance unless some divine intervention destroys the Jets during the season. :tu:ss

Resipsa 10-06-2009 04:49 PM

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Watching this thread hilarious seeing guys argue about whose team sucks the least, LOL

2000ARMY 10-07-2009 03:53 AM

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Pats have a tough game this week but I think Brady and Belichick want to beat McDaniels badly.

Pats Defense has been great so far .... I hope they can maintain the intensity

2000ARMY 10-07-2009 03:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by coastietech (Post 586853)
Bwhahahahaha having doubts now, I see. :r

Start picking out the cigars you want to send me now. The Pats have no chance unless some divine intervention destroys the Jets during the season. :tu:ss

The Jets are great at self destructing on their own ... no help needed

dogface_313 10-11-2009 01:07 PM

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Big game today!!

dogface_313 10-11-2009 08:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by colimo (Post 583304)
unfortunately for you all, the Pats are going to run into the buzz saw that is the Denver Bronco Defense....
Broncos 14, pats 10

Pretty close.

NFL Overtime rules are horrible. I have been saying this for a while. They should take a note from college football.

dunng 10-11-2009 08:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dogface_313 (Post 595428)
Pretty close.

NFL Overtime rules are horrible. I have been saying this for a while. They should take a note from college football.

:tpd: 100%!

VTDragon 10-12-2009 09:04 AM

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Tough loss to Belicheck's former pupil.

Some observations:

The Pats won the first half, Broncos won the second half and then Broncos won the OT.

Broncos made better half time adjustments than Patriots. (Score one for the pupil)

Broncos were more inovative with their offense than Patriots, (score 2 for the pupil)

Patriots were hitting harder in the first half, (terrific protection for Brady) but seemed to back off during the second half and OT. The team was uncharacteristically flustered when they were unable to connect on their offensive schemes.

Patriots defense was picked apart by the Broncos being very Patriots like with a short passing game to lots of different receivers. Belicheck should be able to defend against this.

Patriots do need to sign Junior. That defense is in need of some passion. Allowing the Broncos to drive the length of the field in the fourth quarter
was just plain unacceptable.

Finally, it was not a good day for Tom Brady. Even an average game from him and the Patriots win this in spite of the defensive lapses.

Congrats to Denver for a good win. Now we put this behind us and bring on the Titans.

Resipsa 10-12-2009 02:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by VTDragon (Post 596086)
Tough loss to Belicheck's former pupil.

Some observations:

The Pats won the first half, Broncos won the second half and then Broncos won the OT.

Broncos made better half time adjustments than Patriots. (Score one for the pupil)

Broncos were more inovative with their offense than Patriots, (score 2 for the pupil)

Patriots were hitting harder in the first half, (terrific protection for Brady) but seemed to back off during the second half and OT. The team was uncharacteristically flustered when they were unable to connect on their offensive schemes.

Patriots defense was picked apart by the Broncos being very Patriots like with a short passing game to lots of different receivers. Belicheck should be able to defend against this.

Patriots do need to sign Junior. That defense is in need of some passion. Allowing the Broncos to drive the length of the field in the fourth quarter
was just plain unacceptable.

Finally, it was not a good day for Tom Brady. Even an average game from him and the Patriots win this in spite of the defensive lapses.

Congrats to Denver for a good win. Now we put this behind us and bring on the Titans.

I'm curious as to why you think signing a 50 year linebacker who played poorly his last few years is going to help your team?

The Poet 10-12-2009 02:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dogface_313 (Post 595428)
NFL Overtime rules are horrible. I have been saying this for a while. They should take a note from college football.

Mayhaps you have held this opinion "for a while", yet I doubt if you'd have expressed it had the ball been off the other foot. :D

Bruins Fan 10-12-2009 03:43 PM

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I pin this loss on Brady, his inability to move the ball down field, 5-6 yard passes to Welker just don't cut it, the TD pass to Watson was thrown behind him.
Zero catches for Moss, on top of that no running game.
The way I see it this year the Pats have gone from one of the elite teams, to just a good team.
That can change, but I just don't see the personnel to make it happen.

dogface_313 10-12-2009 04:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Poet (Post 596564)
Mayhaps you have held this opinion "for a while", yet I doubt if you'd have expressed it had the ball been off the other foot. :D

So now you are making a judgment about my integrity?

The Poet 10-12-2009 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by dogface_313 (Post 596657)
So now you are making a judgment about my integrity?

No, not at all. Just pointing out that it's human nature to dislike something that does not benefit oneself, yet accept it if it does. If that offends you, then ;s

VTDragon 10-14-2009 11:32 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Resipsa (Post 596557)
I'm curious as to why you think signing a 50 year linebacker who played poorly his last few years is going to help your team?

Experience, passion, knowledge and most of all LEADERSHIP. That is what Junior brings to the table and that is what this defense needs right now.

Resipsa 10-14-2009 12:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by VTDragon (Post 599496)
Experience, passion, knowledge and most of all LEADERSHIP. That is what Junior brings to the table and that is what this defense needs right now.

No, what your team needs is guys with talent who can play. I bantered with about this going back at least a couple of years now, the pats were an old, slow team then and they've just gotten older and slower. Your watching the swan song now. They've drafted poorly for
several years, and the chickens are coming home to
roost. Look at their offense. Who are the playmakers they've drafted over the past 5 years? Same for defense, with Mayo the exception and one year does not a star make. I see watching the playoffs in their future for years to come

VTDragon 10-15-2009 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Resipsa (Post 599604)
I bantered with you about this going back at least a couple of years now, the pats were an old, slow team then ...

Let's see a couple of years ago .... that would be the team that went 16-0 in the regular season and only lost the Super Bowl to a miracle catch against the helmet? Maybe you were thinking of the team that lost the best QB in football last year and just barely missed the playoffs with a backup QB who didn't even play in college. I'll take our old and slow team vs. the Colts anytime.

Blueface 10-15-2009 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by VTDragon (Post 601248)
Let's see a couple of years ago .... that would be the team that went 16-0 in the regular season and only lost the Super Bowl to a miracle catch against the helmet? Maybe you were thinking of the team that lost the best QB in football last year and just barely missed the playoffs with a backup QB who didn't even play in college. I'll take our old and slow team vs. the Colts anytime.

:r
Big fan here of that team with that miracle catch.
In fact, we can even call it a greater miracle than the immaculate conception.
In fact, we can call it a greater miracle than life, the planets, the universe.

Whatever we call it, we will still have to call the Giants "Super Bowl Champions" for that year.
16-0 was great for the Patriots BUT it was that last one that got away that truly mattered.

As to the second part, BARELY generally counts for very little.:D My boss would never pay me for barely completing my job.

Sorry, on top of a dedicated Giants fan, I am a dedicated hate any team from the Boston area person also. Yup, Yankees fan here also.

Resipsa 10-15-2009 11:14 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by VTDragon (Post 601248)
Let's see a couple of years ago .... that would be the only team In NFL history to go 16-0 in the regular season and lose the Super Bowl ? Maybe you were thinking of the team that lost the best QB in football last year and just barely missed the playoffs with a backup QB who didn't even play in college. I'll take our old and slow team vs. the Colts anytime.


:confused:Manning has never played for the Patsies...:confused:

And I corrected your post for you.......:r

macpappy 10-15-2009 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Resipsa (Post 601351)
:confused:Manning has never played for the Patsies...:confused:

And I corrected your post for you.......:r

Neither one of them have played for the patsies.

VTDragon 10-16-2009 02:15 PM

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We'll see how the current version of the Dolts do against the Patriots on Nov 15th.

Resipsa 10-17-2009 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by VTDragon (Post 603230)
We'll see how the current version of the Dolts do against the Patriots on Nov 15th.

Yes. We will.:r

On a lighter note, little Tommy Brady needs to toughen up a little bit. Here's the link to the entire article, http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/12373081

but check this quote:

" Brady, the 2007 MVP, was at the center of a brouhaha in Week 4, when two of New England's touchdowns against Baltimore were set up by roughing-the-passer calls. Ravens linebacker Ray Lewis, who was fined Friday for hits in last weekend's loss to Cincinnati, found it "embarrassing to the game." His teammate Terrell Suggs said, "Maybe next year it'll be two-hand touch to get a sack."

Brady's take? He's not in Favre's camp on this.

"Are you kidding me? We're holding the ball, we're unprotected, just sitting there defenseless. So they've got to stay away from me," he said. "They deserve to get flagged."

dogface_313 10-18-2009 02:23 PM

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I guess it really is rough to be on top, I love the people that continually come in this thread simply to hate on the Patriots. Yes, they are not as good as they have been in the past. No, they are not a bad team. No, the refs don't decide games. Players know the rules, don't break them. Roughing the Passer Penalties are barely up this year, and are lower than other years.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/column...ohn&id=4538968
Ray Lewis has always been a cry baby, it is always somebody else fault in his mind. Did anybody hear the Patriots whining, like the rest of the league does now, after the Giants won?

Oh yeah, GO PATS.

dogface_313 10-18-2009 02:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 601259)
:r
Big fan here of that team with that miracle catch.
In fact, we can even call it a greater miracle than the immaculate conception.
In fact, we can call it a greater miracle than life, the planets, the universe.

Whatever we call it, we will still have to call the Giants "Super Bowl Champions" for that year.
16-0 was great for the Patriots BUT it was that last one that got away that truly mattered.

As to the second part, BARELY generally counts for very little.:D My boss would never pay me for barely completing my job.

Sorry, on top of a dedicated Giants fan, I am a dedicated hate any team from the Boston area person also. Yup, Yankees fan here also.

Those Giants played well today. They were almost doubled up. Eli Manning is a whiner just like his brother. Plantar Fasciitis?!?! I have battled this for a long time, it does hurt, but it has never kept me from doing my job.

Resipsa 10-18-2009 02:53 PM

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I love guys who don't know the history behind things, yet weigh in on things anyways:r

dunng 10-18-2009 03:07 PM

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Who the F$#@ cares about history, we are talking about this season and then get stuck hearing from everyone who dislikes the Pats...

Resipsa 10-18-2009 03:17 PM

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Patriots fans have been dishing it out to fans of other teams for a long time both here and at CS, and you really shouldn't dish it out if you can't take it. ;)

dogface_313 10-18-2009 03:45 PM

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Bitter Bitter fans.

History? What history am I missing?

Bruins Fan 10-18-2009 04:14 PM

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Brady sets record, five TD passes in one quarter :wo

yachties23 10-18-2009 04:19 PM

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If Belicheck keeps him in the game in this rout, he is just asking for him to get hurt.

2000ARMY 10-18-2009 04:21 PM

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WoW!!!

dogface_313 10-18-2009 04:34 PM

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Go Buffalo!

Resipsa 10-18-2009 04:35 PM

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oh, the irony......

dogface_313 10-18-2009 04:41 PM

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I really hope this is a preview of the rest of the season. I want to hear more whiners talk about running up the score

macpappy 10-18-2009 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruins Fan (Post 605995)
Brady sets record, five TD passes in one quarter :wo

Against the Tennessee Titans (Tennessee's version of the Oakland Raiders).
Still, 5 touchdowns in one quarter is impressive. It took the Saints two quarters to do that against the previously unbeaten Giants.

Starscream 10-18-2009 05:03 PM

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I'm mad at CBS for taking this game off the air and putting the Bills/Jets game on. I was enjoying that game!:(

Sawyer 10-18-2009 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by andysutherland (Post 606059)
I'm mad at CBS for taking this game off the air and putting the Bills/Jets game on. I was enjoying that game!:(

And I was here asking for them to do it sooner. I couldn't believe that they came back to it after halftime. I am not even sure why it was the chosen game here in the first place.


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