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I have never done a fantasy league of any kind and dont think this shark tank would be a good place to start.

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There are some pretty good players in this one, Mike, starting with that bigwaved from up Nort. :)

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It's not so hard :tu My first year of fantasy hockey came in second. It did help that it just so happened I had Dany Heatley and Daniel Alfredsson in the 05-06 season with Datsuyk and Marty Brodeur. Don't forget some of it is luck, no one knows how those players will play that particular season. :2

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Definitely some luck involved...injuries especially. :)

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Thanks for the invite Tom. Glad you cut down on the roster size as last year was hard to find players (especially goalies) with so many slots needing to be filled.

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No doubt, Greg...this year everyone should be able to get at least one #1 goalie. I also added penalty minutes back into the mix, changed GAA to Save Percentage, and a couple other minor tweaks. I will start a new thread for the league as soon as I have heard back from last years' 16 as to whether they are in or out. :)

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:tu

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WTF is wrong with you :su

I LOVE THE BLACKHAWKS!! :tu

Rob :tpd:

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Yes!!!!! :D

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Hopefully. I'm not really sure what to think about the upcoming season, not a huge Tortorella fan, but who, knows.

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Holy Sheit!!!!!
Heatly is now a shark?
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=4...id=DL|NHL|Home

The good, heatly is a goal scorer and a game changer.
The bad, heatly has had issues every where he played.

This is either going to take the sharks over the hump, or destroy the locker room.

Dark humor, maybe they are bringing him in to get rid of marleau. If Im patty I am not getting in a car with that dude. Okay thats wrong sorry I had to .

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My favorite part of the Heatley trade:

He posted that two days ago.

Hockeybuzzhogwash.com tracked his "rumors" for the 2008 year, and he only got 2.4% accurate, which is less than the 3.4% chance or randomly picking one of the 30 teams out of a hat. :r

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Heatley trade is huge for the Sharks for as long as he isn't a distraction.

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Rangers / Bruins 7PM



God I love this game!!!!

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:tpd:

On a side note I just was told I have been accepted in the last spot of special studies course in which I will be working extensively with the mens hockey team at school. The competition for the position was pretty intense so I'm pretty excited that I got the position. :D:D:D

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Congrats!

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Congrats Matt! :ih

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Nice brother. Hope it leads to more in the future.

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Lets go DUCKS!!

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First preseason game for Les Habitants tonight...could be an interesting year!

GO HABS GO!!!

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Gotta keep your head up and chin strap tight!

CLICK ME

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Monster Hit!

Wild seeing Theo Fleury back in the NHL...he scored the only shootout goal to win the game.

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Don't like seeing guys get hurt but I'm sure he has learnt his lesson about cutting across the middle with his head down especially when a guy like Paneuf is on the ice.

What I don't like is that it seems now a days in the NHL even when there is a good hit(I don't think he left his feet) the other team feels the need to start a line brawl or go after the guy that laid the hit(coming of the bench WTF!!!). Back in the day the other team would have kept it in their back of their mind and used it to fire the team up and get even at a later point in time.

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That kid will get 10 games for coming off the bench.

Matt, back in the day they may have done what you suggest...but WAY back in the day, there would have been a bench clearing brawl....happened about once a week in the 70s. Glad that the NHL has moved past that stage. :)

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Might not. Watch real close, one guy was head in the door as he came over the boards. Then the guy who was leaving came back. They could claim he was just changing lines. :hm

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The kid's rep (596 PIMs last season in juniors) will not help. ;)

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:r That guy spent almost 10hrs in the box! :r

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I would be suprised if he didnt already know not to do this seeing as how he is playing in the show and had a fairly decent year on the islanders last year. Pretty sure he knows how to play the game. That said he made a mistake and he more than payed for it. There are two sides to this for sure. He is a fairly talented player though. I am not a big Phenuf guy so my view on this is likely impacted by that. Running someone like that in pre season is bush. The games dont count and you got rookies and even some jrs players out there generally.


Change this to Phenuf destroying some jr player and ending his chances to play in the pros in preseason in a meaningless game and maybe it looks different.

Just another view. Yes it was a monster hit and a thing of beauty to watch. That said its not game 7, its a meaningless preseason game.

OOOh and Tom I love the fact that theo is back. Love that little bastage. I always though he should have been nicknamed "the little ball of hate" not pat verbeek

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:hm

"Running" a guy and a clean hit are two completely different things in my book and as far as I can see it was clean.

If they are meaningless why play them?

I think preseason games are there for the simple reason coaches want to see how guys on the cut off "bubble" handle a real game. What if one of the Junior guys puts a hit like that on someone? His stock would rise considerably in the coach's eyes. And don't think for a second a young defensmen trying to earn a spot on a NHL roster wouldn't give his left nut to make a hit like that.

I have always told my boys (both D men) to practice like you want to play. It's part of the game and every guy that pulls that sweater over his head knows it.

Have a great weekend!

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Clearly you are playing at words here.

You can run a guy in the course of the game and have it be clean and part of the game. Running a guy to us on the west coast comes from the phrase ran him over. That is what Phenuf did. He ran him over. The issue I was attempting to address is was that hit needed between two players who both have established spots on a squad? They dont play in the same division or even confrence. They may play once again this season, but likely not. There was no message to be sent for the regular season and the odds of them meeting in the post season are zero. The point of the hit was what? Nothing. It was Phenuf doing what Phenuf does. He injured a player which may have long term effects in a meaningless preseason game.

By meaningless we both know I meant they do not count towards stats and chances at a cup which is the whole purpose why every regualr season game and playoff game is played. They are meaningless to stats and chances at a cup. Stuff like this is why many teams sit out certain players. They dont want or need as you pointed out some jr player trying to render a big hit on a star player to make a roster spot.

As to practice like you play. I agree yo always practice and play hard. That said Al I cant find a reason why Phenuf needed to level the guy in a pre season game. He is not a bubble player. He is known for hunting players with their head down and laying them out.

What purpose did the hit serve to the flames chances of winning a cup?
Maybe you will argue that the hit will set the tone for the whole season. I am not buying that and that was not in Phenufs head when he made the hit. He saw a guy to level. He probablly saw him with his head down earlier in the game and figured if he would run him if he got the chance. Watching the replay he lined that dude up and destroyed him. It could have ended a lot worse for oposo. I am glad it appears it didnt. I hope he has no lingering effects that impact his season as a result.

I know you like the hit. I guess we can agree to disagree. maybe in 12 years I will hold the same view on this. Currently I dont.

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I don't understand why you should back off in a pre-season game.

Do you think any player is running through his head, who is this guy?, will I face him again?, etc etc?

Based on what your saying every hit should be weighed against a certain set of criteria that could/would change every game.

These guys do this on instinct, guys like Stevens for example are better at it than most.

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Couldn't agree with Al or Shawn more.

Play hard no matter what. What would the coaching staff/management say if they saw that same situation and Paneuf choose not to make the hit and Osposko gets through and a breakaway and scores.

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And just as info around here running a guy is when he clearly does not have the puck you are a couple strides away and you still bury him.

:tu

God I love this game!

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Man I love stirring the nest and watching you guys get all jacked up jumping over each other to get in the mix. :r


Shawn please re read my posts I never said it was dirty. In fact I repeatedly said it was a clean hit. I am saying it was bush cause I just dont get leveling a guy in a pre season game. We will all continue to argue about this. As I said before and am saying again this is one of the reasons teams sit out star players in preseason. There is no point to the game and why risk a star players injury in an meaningless game.

As I said repeatedly we disagree as to why I think you should not level someone in a preseason game. Especially one against a team in a different confrence who you will not see again.

As to whats in the head. Al I have taken penalties as I am sure every poster here has on guys in rec league. If I can know who is on the ice and that they fugged with me or a teamate previously and I need to go say high and remind them we wont take it, then yes NHL players know. I am not a big guy or super faster nhl player. When I play I know damn well who is on the sheet when I step on because at that moment its my job.

We have all played here so I am not going to go through the list of ways he could have played it differently getting the puck and not laying him out. If he couldnt stop him without laying the shoulder to the head hit then he will be worse then -11 this year. I will just leave this one alone.

Really? what about when you run someone on the boards from behind? He has the puck and you run his ass over and crush him? Is that not running a guy? I hear everyone else call it running a guy besides it being boarding. I will use my term for running a guy which applies to running over a guy with or without the puck and whether he is in the open ice or on the boards.

now as jim rome used to say. React to me. I hope no one is upset with me playing devils advocate. If so just let me know and I will stop. :r

Micah starts minimites tomorrow and I am pretty jacked up about it. Down the road I go to financial ruin Al and I couldnt be happier. :D Looks like I wont be playing much anymore now cant afford it.

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This isn't the all star game its exhibition and iregardless It was clean...they are professionals...they know the risk.

Keep your head up and this won't happen, simple as that.

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Sounds like you're gonna be a forward dad. :ss

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For what it's worth, Scott Burnside is questioning the "necessity" of the hit on ESPN.com as well.

EDIT...it is on "The Insider" (subscription based), so I posted it here.

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Since when did anyone on ESPN know anything about hockey??

Thats like asking the guys on the BBC their thoughts on the Superbowl :r:r

;s

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Pink text for cali girl hockey? OOOO you dirty bish
As to the forward dad. I will say, you saw the video he wants to score goals and likes to crash the net already at home when dad is playing goal. Already took a couple sticks up high. The odds of him playing D seem small, but he looks like hes gonna be a big kid so maybe.


Not to impressed with ESPN and hockey or ESPN and much else.
If the flames rest phaneuf in the next one I wont have good things to say about that. I cant imagine anyone else here would either. You gonna make that hit, you better be there to answer for it. Especially because preseason is every bit as important as regular season right?

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Most teams only put their best players in a couple/few pre-season games, no sense in getting them hurt, and the p-s is more about seeing which bubble players make the roster. If I was the Flames, I wouldn't play Phaneuf either, Mike. JMHO.

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Tom thats exactly my point through all of this. Its preseason and teams dont want star players hurt, but laying a hit like that in preseason is just ? Both players are not trying to earn a spot. He saw him and took several steps to lay the hit. He lined him up and risked severe injury in the preseason.

See to me thats chicken shiet.
If he is such a bad ass he will lay guys out in the pre season cause it matters so much, then stand up and be ready.
I find a flaw in anyones logic who will argue the hit was necessary and good, but then will argue the next game where he will have to pay for such a relevant and necessary hit he should sit out. Why? cause he may get hurt in a preseason game and be lost for the season? Yeah cause then he would have gotten hurt in a meaningless preseason game.

This is actually a really good question.
All you who said the hit was relevant and the preseason game mattered and it was good and right. If the Flames sit/hide Phanuef and dont let him answer up is that chicken shiet? If not how come? Isnt the pre season game so important? I mean it was important enough to risk someones season, so surely its important enough to play phaneuf.

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I see all your points, Mike, and agree with most of them.... but I also know enough to always keep my head up...even in scrimmages against my own team mates.

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Mike killed this thread.

:sad


One week left boys, one week till all clean checks are approved (I hope) by Mike. :D

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:r oh Al

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lol more like no one had the sack to answer the question honestly. More importanlty Tom agreeing with me was the last post of this thread. You all not having the sack to take tom on killed the thread. :r Lesson to be learned find your sack. :r

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Keep it on the ice, Gentlemen! ;)

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Tom, Sorry to hear the bad news on Adam Burish. Out 6 months.