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Scimmia 11-23-2009 03:00 PM

Re: Homebrewers - Whats in the fermeter?
 
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Originally Posted by kaisersozei (Post 656025)
Differences like what? Jon's beer was about 7 days in the primary.

I quoted what I was talking about. You said that bottling from the primary would take longer to clear and give you more sediment in the bottles, which I disagree with for the most part. Leaving the beer in the primary longer would do just as well as transferring to a bright tank.

kaisersozei 11-23-2009 03:48 PM

Re: Homebrewers - Whats in the fermeter?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scimmia (Post 656121)
I quoted what I was talking about. You said that bottling from the primary would take longer to clear and give you more sediment in the bottles, which I disagree with for the most part. Leaving the beer in the primary longer would do just as well as transferring to a bright tank.

My point was specifically to Jon regarding his beer, having only been in the primary for a week. In that case, he'd likely experience exactly those things that I mentioned if he bottled it without additional aging.

kenstogie 12-01-2009 05:27 PM

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Well brewed ANOTHER batch. The MOREBEER's Scottish Export 80/- Schilling. A 22.50 extract kit! It said
Estimated Original Gravity would be 1.045-49 but.... it was way higher like 1.060-1.063 or sooo. not sure why but i ain't complaining either. :) bubbling like a mad man.

Any suggestions how long I should let it clarify??

kenstogie 12-01-2009 05:30 PM

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Scimmia 12-01-2009 05:46 PM

Re: Homebrewers - Whats in the fermeter?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kenstogie (Post 664383)
Well brewed ANOTHER batch. The MOREBEER's Scottish Export 80/- Schilling. A 22.50 extract kit! It said
Estimated Original Gravity would be 1.045-49 but.... it was way higher like 1.060-1.063 or sooo. not sure why but i ain't complaining either. :) bubbling like a mad man.

Any suggestions how long I should let it clarify??

Bad reading. It's easy to do with a partial boil, the top up water didn't get mixed all the way. With an extract kit, there's no way to miss your target gravity that high unless you have way less volume than called for.

Personally, I would let it sit for 3 weeks, then take a gravity reading. As long as it's where it should be, it's time to bottle it.

smokinghole 12-01-2009 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by smokinghole (Post 655913)
I have another fermenter going as of saturday. It's a recipe I got from homebrewtalk.com. It's called Graff and here is the recipe. http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f81/graf...-cider-117117/

Will bottle in about two weeks and drinking by Christmas. Hopefully.

This stuff has pretty much settled down. Will take a reading on saturday night and potentially bottle. Wohoo..

My high abv cider is still coming along nicely measured at 1.010 last night, tasted good, lots of alcohol already. I estimate I started close to 1.080 but didn't measure OG.

MarkinAZ 12-01-2009 07:59 PM

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:DMy new 'Williams Brewing' Winter 2009 catalog arrived in the mail today...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darrell (Post 642844)
Is Northern Brewer a pretty good site to order from?
Also, what are "prime" conditions for aging beer?

Darrell, here are some sites I've used and for continuous reference:

http://www.williamsbrewing.com/

http://morebeer.com/

http://breworganic.com/

http://www.whitelabs.com/

http://www.wyeastlab.com/

http://www.freshops.com/

http://www.howtobrew.com/sitemap.html

http://www.realbeer.com/hops/

http://www.byo.com/

http://www.qualityales.com/index.php

http://www.maltosefalcons.com/


I think you'll find information in some of these sites to help in your homebrewing adventure...:)


PS. In regards to your 'aging' question, if you're brewing an English Bitter Ale for example, a prime temperature range is cellar conditions being between 50 - 55* in the bottle following the carbonation process...


kenstogie 12-02-2009 07:03 PM

Re: Homebrewers - Whats in the fermeter?
 
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Originally Posted by kenstogie (Post 632786)
In addition to the Cider I have a Chocolate Porter/Stout brewing. It started as a porter but with an OG of 1.1 apprx and has pounds of Grains, 2 cans LME, 2 LBS of DME and 1 oz of hops. Plus 1/2 Lb of Carapills for mouthfeel. I am thinking it'll be more like a Imperial Stout when done. It's bubbling like a mad man. I imagine it will take a good 4 months before I want to drink it (at least) and will age nicely but I will certainly "sample" some along the way!

The actual OG was 1.08 not 1.1 but has started to develop nicely. It's turning in to Imperial stout taste wise IMHO. Tasted like $h!t a week ago but now not so much. I imagine that it will develop very very nicely, :dr if I can keep my tastebuds off of it. I don't remember what the FG was but the ABV was 8-9%. I don't know if the yeast could take much more even if there was enough fermentables.

BeerAdvocate 12-31-2009 02:11 PM

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Big brew day today.
Im doing an Oatmeal Stout and an Amarillo Pale Ale!
These should be done just in time for my SuperBowl party!!!!

Drat 01-04-2010 04:53 PM

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This is hands down my favorite topic on this site...

Currently drinking a honey IPA that I burned during boil :(
it's tough getting used to a new propane burner.

New years day I brewed an old ale with honey, vanilla, cinnamon, and will add oak and whiskey to secondary

yesterday was a Scottish ale with grade A maple syrup from Welch's farms in upstate new York. I'll add maple chips soaked in 12yo glenfiddich to secondary

going to be fall before I keg these though.

I'm building a recipe for a 7% pilsner and will brew my honey red again for my brothers birthday before January is done

Salvelinus 01-04-2010 07:57 PM

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Drat that maple sounds incredible.

Haven't brewed a batch in two months. And the last batch is gone. Better get on that.

kenstogie 01-05-2010 07:47 AM

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Well finally bottled my Scottish Export after about 4 weeks in the fermenter. With all that Christmas stuff to do it was the earliest time I could do it. Have yet to try the carbonated version.

The Imperial Stout is starting to taste fantastic. It's amazing what a month will do for a "big" beer. Can only imagine what 6 months will do.

Found a hefe from summer that was hiding in the back of my brew closet and even though it was good it definately lost some of the flavor it once had. So I guess with those "drink early, drink often"

kaisersozei 01-05-2010 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by kaisersozei (Post 646245)
Bottled the OktoberFast Ale last night that icantbejon and JohnnyKay helped me brew a few weeks ago. Extremely clear coming out of the secondary, and tasted just right. I plan on salvaging the Irish Stout yeast that I used, but will get around to that later this week. Intend to use it in one of my stout recipes later this month.

Just wanted to report that this turned out to be one of the best beers I've brewed in a long time. Clear, great head, excellent flavor profile. It went fast at the VCM Holiday Herf, I gifted a 6 pack to my CEO, and shared some with my family who are pretty much Budweiser-types--and everyone has loved it. If anyone wants a copy of the recipe, let me know. To turn out just right, though, you'll need to coerce JK & Ferg to help you brew it :D

Mark C 01-06-2010 06:13 PM

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Thanks to Santa, I pulled the trigger and jumped into this hobby. Been making wine for years with surprisingly good results, time for beer. My keg supplies came yesterday, an Austin Homebrew chocolate raspberry stout kit came today. Should have root beer on tap this weekend (to appease my pregnant wife), and the stout a little further down the road.

kenstogie 01-07-2010 06:45 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark C (Post 710304)
Thanks to Santa, I pulled the trigger and jumped into this hobby. Been making wine for years with surprisingly good results, time for beer. My keg supplies came yesterday, an Austin Homebrew chocolate raspberry stout kit came today. Should have root beer on tap this weekend (to appease my pregnant wife), and the stout a little further down the road.

****Good Deal, it's a world of difference from "regular" beer. It's hard to drink that stuff.

****My scottish export turned out very nice btw!

AND


***My stout is mellowing soooo nicely. It's going through changes as time passes and it's only been about 2 months. Nice!!!

Going to a herf on Friday and bringing a 12 of my HB's. They always go quick. I highly recommend bringing you Home brew, then you can be the "beer" guy. It's kinda like being a "B" celebrity.

cricky101 01-16-2010 06:38 PM

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I'm planning to give home brewing a try and am looking at kits to get started and was wondering if anyone had any suggestions about starter setups that have worked well for them.

I have access to the retail Northern Brewer store in St. Paul, MN and was looking at getting this beginner kit from them. They do have less expensive and more expensive kits too ...

Anyone experienced brewers have suggestions of anything it may be missing (other than bottles) that I should pick up right away?

BeerAdvocate 01-18-2010 05:54 AM

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That is a good starter set from NB. I think its best to start out with 2 carboys.
I bought my starter kit from Midwest, they are a little cheaper.
http://www.midwestsupplies.com/brewi...s-carboys.html
It comes with 2 glass carboys, but for $20 less you can get 2 better bottles. I prefer glass.
The only other thing you need is a big pot. If you are doing all grain, I suggest getting a turkey fryer setup. If you are going to do extract on the stove, get a pot that is big enough to hold 2-3 gallons.

Demented 01-18-2010 08:41 AM

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A braggot I call "BarleyMead"

1 lb Belgian Munich
1 lb Belgian CaraMunich
8 oz Belgian Special B
8 oz British crystal 50-60L
4 oz British crystal 70-80L
12 oz Belgian chocolate
4 oz Flaked barley
1 lb Flaked oats
18 lbs Honey
Wyeast 1098
Lalvin EC-1118
1 tspn Irish Moss
5 oz Corn sugar for bottle priming.

Mashed the malt & flake in 12 quarts water; 30 minute protein rest @ 122 F, 30 minute Alpha Rest @ 158 F, brought the water to 162 F add the roast and steeped for 30 minutes before doing a 6 quart batch sparge @ 170 F.

Boil the wort for 60 minutes, chill and blend with 6lb honey and pitched the Wyeast. O.G. was 1.086.

When fermentation has ended I’ll blend 12lb of honey into the beer, pitch the Lalvin yeast and let it ferment until the completion. Starting gravity last batch was 1.140, the batch finished at 1.018.

Near as I could figure the braggot was 24%-25% ABV, 5% from the grain 19% - 20% from the second addition of honey.



http://hbd.org/recipator/

Mark C 01-18-2010 01:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BeerAdvocate (Post 724208)
If you are going to do extract on the stove, get a pot that is big enough to hold 2-3 gallons.

Walmart sells a 22 qt stainless pot for $40, just grabbed one myself.

Anyone here keg soda? I'm having trouble with carbing my first root beer. I can't seem to get it to pour without foam. I originally tried force carb @40 psig, served at 30psig/38 F through 30 ft of 3/16" line and a cobra tap and all I get is foam. I thought I had a diptube leak, so I changed the o-ring, not much better. It looks like I've got CO2 coming out of solution in the lines, way too many bubbles. If I let it sit overnight, the lines are solid in the morning and the first pour (what was left in the line) is great. After that it goes downhill. Now I'm thinking I overcarbed it, so I'm purging the keg and plan to start over a little lower, maybe around 20 psig and work up from there. I was also thinking maybe I hadn't let the CO2 truly dissolve well into the root beer? I only left it under pressure for a day before I tried to pour, could it be CO2 is merely 'mixed' in the root beer, rather than dissolved, causing it to come out of solution faster? Though I was under the impression not enough time under pressure would give you a flat beer, not a ton of foam. Any thoughts?

cricky101 01-18-2010 01:54 PM

Re: Homebrewers - Whats in the fermeter?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BeerAdvocate (Post 724208)
That is a good starter set from NB. I think its best to start out with 2 carboys.
I bought my starter kit from Midwest, they are a little cheaper.
http://www.midwestsupplies.com/brewi...s-carboys.html
It comes with 2 glass carboys, but for $20 less you can get 2 better bottles. I prefer glass.
The only other thing you need is a big pot. If you are doing all grain, I suggest getting a turkey fryer setup. If you are going to do extract on the stove, get a pot that is big enough to hold 2-3 gallons.

Thanks! That looks like a good way to go. I'm going to try to drive over there this week and check it out.

Scimmia 01-20-2010 01:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BeerAdvocate (Post 724208)
That is a good starter set from NB. I think its best to start out with 2 carboys.

I'm of the opposite opinion. One fermenting bucket and one bottling bucket is perfect 90% of the time. I have a glass carboy, but I only use it for bulk aging, an don't even do that anymore now that I keg.

Mikes 01-25-2010 10:22 AM

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10gal of Sunshine Wheat clone from AHB

BeerAdvocate 01-29-2010 09:43 AM

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I will be brewing a double chocolate stout tonight. I am going to let it age a good 3 months before I tap it.
I also have a Hop Rod Rye clone that I need to get going.

kenstogie 01-31-2010 05:57 PM

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Well did an ESB today. First day using my new pot. why didn't I get a better pot before? It was only 40 bucks at Wallys and had a bottom that is about 1/2 inch thick and built like a tank.absolutely no scorching and it was 22 qt.It didn't even try to boil over.I might even be able to get away with a 5 gal boil. Now I need a wort chiller.
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BeerAdvocate 02-01-2010 06:08 AM

Re: Homebrewers - Whats in the fermeter?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kenstogie (Post 742528)
Well did an ESB today. First day using my new pot. why didn't I get a better pot before? It was only 40 bucks at Wallys and had a bottom that is about 1/2 inch thick and built like a tank.absolutely no scorching and it was 22 qt.It didn't even try to boil over.I might even be able to get away with a 5 gal boil. Now I need a wort chiller.
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Did you do a stove top boil?
How many gallons did you do?

kenstogie 02-01-2010 07:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BeerAdvocate (Post 742925)
Did you do a stove top boil?
How many gallons did you do?

Yup it was stove top. I've heard much good about using turkey fryers, FWIW. I only did a 3.5 gallon boil but I think I could have done 4 and if I push it MAYBE even 5. What a difference I didn't have to watch it like a hawk. NICE. It's already started to bubble.

icantbejon 02-01-2010 08:29 AM

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Just brewed up a Nut Brown on Sat. Trying a blow off tube for the first time, so I'm interested to see how that goes. So far, after two days, there is no "blow off" to speak off. Just acting as a typical airlock. I saw some pictures of some really nasty **** coming out of other peoples' tubes before, so this makes me wonder if I've done something wrong. More than likely, I'll say I didn't and I just need to be more patient.

BeerAdvocate 02-01-2010 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by kenstogie (Post 742979)
Yup it was stove top. I've heard much good about using turkey fryers, FWIW. I only did a 3.5 gallon boil but I think I could have done 4 and if I push it MAYBE even 5. What a difference I didn't have to watch it like a hawk. NICE. It's already started to bubble.

I usually do 3 gallon boils. The water is only a half inch away from the top, but I use Fermcap and never get any boilovers.
I keep thinking about getting that same pot at Wallyworld and doing 4gallon boils, maybe even 5. Just not sure if my stove will get hot enough to boil that much water and how long it would take.

Scimmia 02-01-2010 09:04 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icantbejon (Post 743061)
Just brewed up a Nut Brown on Sat. Trying a blow off tube for the first time, so I'm interested to see how that goes. So far, after two days, there is no "blow off" to speak off. Just acting as a typical airlock. I saw some pictures of some really nasty **** coming out of other peoples' tubes before, so this makes me wonder if I've done something wrong. More than likely, I'll say I didn't and I just need to be more patient.

The only time you'll get stuff coming out of the blow off tube is when the krausen gets big enough, of course. This usually means a VERY active fermentation and/or wheat in the grist. As long as you keep fermentation temps under control, I wouldn't expect a blow off from a nut brown ale. I've never had a blow off, even with some pretty high pitching rates.

kenstogie 02-01-2010 09:44 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BeerAdvocate (Post 743069)
I usually do 3 gallon boils. The water is only a half inch away from the top, but I use Fermcap and never get any boilovers.
I keep thinking about getting that same pot at Wallyworld and doing 4gallon boils, maybe even 5. Just not sure if my stove will get hot enough to boil that much water and how long it would take.

In the past I have usually done 3 gallon boils too but with this pot maybe more. I had no problems with my crappy old stove doing the boil and this pot it heated up/boiled quicker because the bottom dissapated the heat and prevented scorching so I could turn it up higher.:tu

With Summer coming I was thinking of trying a Lager. I have been very successful with the Ales. Any words of wisdoms or tips??

TrickNick 02-01-2010 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by kenstogie (Post 743138)
In the past I have usually done 3 gallon boils too but with this pot maybe more. I had no problems with my crappy old stove doing the boil and this pot it heated up/boiled quicker because the bottom dissapated the heat and prevented scorching so I could turn it up higher.:tu

With Summer coming I was thinking of trying a Lager. I have been very successful with the Ales. Any words of wisdoms or tips??

Do a diacetyl rest between fermentation and lagering. :)

Oh yea, and have fun!

BeerAdvocate 02-19-2010 05:42 AM

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Im starting my Hop Rod Rye clone tonight!!!!
Cant wait to have this one on tap!

kenstogie 02-19-2010 07:56 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kenstogie (Post 742528)
Well did an ESB today. First day using my new pot. why didn't I get a better pot before? It was only 40 bucks at Wallys and had a bottom that is about 1/2 inch thick and built like a tank.absolutely no scorching and it was 22 qt.It didn't even try to boil over.I might even be able to get away with a 5 gal boil. Now I need a wort chiller.
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The ESB is bottled and after a sample think it'll turn out well. Kind of a toned down pale ale with a slight bitterness (not a bad bitterness) to it. course that was with out the bubbles so we'll see how it is in 2 or 3 weeks.

MarkinAZ 02-19-2010 07:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BeerAdvocate (Post 764643)
Im starting my Hop Rod Rye clone tonight!!!! Cant wait to have this one on tap!

That sounds like one interesting brew Travis:tu

kenstogie 02-22-2010 07:38 AM

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Remember, brewing season is around the corner.

BeerAdvocate 02-22-2010 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by MarkinCA (Post 765545)
That sounds like one interesting brew Travis:tu

I love Bear Republics Hop Rod Rye, so hopefully this one turns out close to the same. It will be nice to have 5gallons of it on tap in my kitchen!

icantbejon 02-22-2010 10:18 AM

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I'm looking to get my hands on a good Pale Ale recipe. Anyone got something they'd like to share?

BeerAdvocate 02-23-2010 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by icantbejon (Post 768211)
I'm looking to get my hands on a good Pale Ale recipe. Anyone got something they'd like to share?


All Grain or Extract recipe?

kaisersozei 02-24-2010 08:34 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icantbejon (Post 768211)
I'm looking to get my hands on a good Pale Ale recipe. Anyone got something they'd like to share?

Check your yahoo email, pops.

kenstogie 02-24-2010 12:10 PM

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What beers will age and or just keep well? I would like to brew beers that I could cellar. Any ideas?
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BeerAdvocate 02-24-2010 01:06 PM

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I brewed a bourbon barrel porter 6 months ago that is aging good. Other than that
Barleywines and Imperial Stouts age the best

kaisersozei 02-24-2010 01:28 PM

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+1 on the barleywine & stouts. Typically, the higher alcohol content beers tend to cellar the best. You can also put lambics in that category, if you're an adventurous brewer!

Although, I have to admit that just about every beer I've brewed ages pretty well. I've written previously about some "holiday beers" I brewed in 1995 & 1996 that are still very drinkable. My guess is that the yeast pack helps preserve homebrew to some extent, but that's just my :2 Who knows why they keep, I just know that they do!

kenstogie 02-24-2010 07:58 PM

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I know my cider ages very well and is SUPER ez to brew but would like beer too. I brewed an imp stout and that's aging well but looking for something more delicate and quaffible.
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kaisersozei 03-02-2010 11:36 AM

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Put a Bohemian Pilsner in my 48 degree garage/gym/brewhouse this weekend. My first lager in about 20 years. :gl After hundreds of ale batches, it's kinda unnerving to see the fermenter bubbling away at such a low temp!

BeerAdvocate 03-03-2010 06:04 AM

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There are some great lager beers and Czech Pilsners out there but I dont think I will ever do a lager. I just dont have the desire or patience to.

BeerAdvocate 03-04-2010 06:03 AM

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I did a WestCoast PaleAle last night similar to Sierra Nevada.
Simple recipe with all Cascade Hops!

BeerAdvocate 03-10-2010 07:08 AM

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Dry Hopped my HopRod Rye Clone last night and started my Toasted Coconut Porter

ashtonlady 03-10-2010 01:32 PM

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That Porter sounds good.

landhoney 03-10-2010 03:00 PM

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Brewing a Barleywine and an Pale Ale tonight, it's going to be a long night.

newcigarz 03-10-2010 03:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by landhoney (Post 789377)
Brewing a Barleywine and an Pale Ale tonight, it's going to be a long night.

:dr


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