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So version 1.0.1 seems very stable, no crashes at all since the upgrade. Default caps is very nice, notes field is working well also. I did notice in the nc that the Carlos Torano is listed twice, once with the tilda. Couple other cigars that need adding for the list, nc Cohiba's, Cusano18's, SLR(Sait Louis Ray), Juan Lopez. CAO list needs vast expanding. I know this list isn't a super high priority, just FYI. I've continued to modify my list as needed.

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Ok, general question for anybody following this thread:

It's clear that the NC database needs to be improved, but I don't plan to key in a massive amount of 'em, since the end user has the ability to add anything they need to their own database. That said, I do want a fairly representative list. So far in the comments on this thread, the ones mentioned are Padron, God of Fire, Rocky Patel, Gurkha & Macanudos.

To capture a reasonable set of "mainstream" cigars, what others really need to be in the default list? We already have A. Fuente & Opus X fairly well covered. The rest actually just came from what I was tracking in a spreadsheet from my own NC collection several months ago.

So, what are the "gotta have" brands? (and, does anybody already have a list of info about them? Maybe a spreadsheet that you've been keeping??). If anybody had that info in a spreadsheet, text file, or anything else, I could pretty easily upload it all into the database...

Thanks :tu

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Oliva, Tatauje, and VSG

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the Tatuaje line and a few other Pepins for sure.

Ken, did you get my PM w/ the info?

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Casa Magna
La Flor Dominicana
La Aroma de Cuba (ASHTON)
La Gloria Cubana

to name a few... :D

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Illusione
cruzado
la Rizquel (sic)

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Ken,

I dont know that you want to take on the overhead of developing the database. It might simply be easier to let people have the ability to update your database and then publish new updates that are pushed to the phones monthly. I'd be more than happy to support the development of the Cuban side of the database.

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Boy do I agree with you on this...

The tough part is managing duplicates, not overwriting users DB, maybe even malicious strings (don't know if this is an issue in iPhone software etc)

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Thoughts....

All Humidors - excellent idea!

Icon - I agree with the above, the Icon works great and symbolizes what we're trying to do with the app.

Box Code - I would agree that wrapper/binder/filler would be great for the NC's - Box code does nothing for the NC's I've bought; Definate need for BC in the CC section!


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This is exactly my worry. The website is currently setup for others to enter data, but for now I require somebody to request a userid and password. That way, I can track who is adding what, but I certainly can't control what somebody chooses to do with the access.

The best way would be a few volunteers that we trust, populate the basics, and leave the unique stuff for individuals to add to their own iPhone database. After all, not everybody needs a huge library of cigars. Maybe some only want/need the stuff that they are interested in.

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I think the Cuban side of the existing database is pretty complete (maybe 90 - 95% ?). What would be great is somebody verifying what is there, and identifying errors. Always a big manual chore.

I'm thinking through how to push out updates to the iPhone/iPod users now. The update mechanism for apps is easy, but the database part will be a little bit tricky, since people will likely have added some of their own to the reference side. Also, personal inventory is keyed to a unique identifier for each cigar, so I can't just change them around. It's an interesting puzzle for sure. We'll get there though :tu

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Ken,

Can't wait for this to launch. I've got tons of ideas, most of which are meaningless until I can touch the app lol.

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Yep, I got your info, but had already compiled beta 2 for distribution. I'll try to get your device info into the code today and build a special version for you.

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Me too; trust me, I have more ideas than I have time to implement ;).

My guess is that Beta 3 will be the last, maybe early next week, and I'll plan to publish final by end of next week (but who knows how long Apple will take to review and make available).

Obviously all suggestions and ideas won't be implemented, but I feel very confident in the stability at this point. I will continue to refine based on feedback and release updates via the app store as appropriate.

This is certainly an interesting ride, and I thank you all again for the help and feedback. First time I've tried something like this, and it can quickly be all-consuming :). But if interest continues, then I'll try to keep improving it to be as useful as possible (but I still have a day job :)). I would guess that a few months from now, this app could be very different than it is today, as I learn more and fold in the feedback.

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Kudos to you for taking this on. I've been following this thread with much interest (I'm buying an iPhone at the end of the month when my Verizon contract expires).

I just came across this http://www.pcworld.com/article/16114...ame_maker.html, which is a fun little read on app development similar to what you're going though.

I can guarantee I'll be buying your app when it's released!

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sounds good...can't wait :tu

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Ken, stability has been perfect in version 1.0.1. One idea I came across, is to allow editing of the wish list. So if you have a cigar in the wish list, and then you select wishlist from the my cigars page you can currently only select the cigar type, then the cigar brand, then see the cigar, no details page like you would get from the humidor list. I think it would be good to be able to get to that last step, allowing notes etc. So right now, my wishlist has 1 cigar in it, I click wishlist, Cuban, it takes me to the Brand screen that I added to the list, I click that, say cohiba, it takes me to the cigar family/type. Then I can't go any further. If I were in a humidor at this point, I could drill down, put a note in saying, trying this on 3/13/09, was great, or something like that. Anyway, one more thing to think about for a future release.

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Interesting, and there I went through a bunch of hoops to limit that drill down on the wishlist, figuring it wasn't relevant :rolleyes:

I see your point though, and having it jump directly to the detail page, at least for recording notes would make some sense. Not drilling through the intemediate page though...

My brain is starting to hurt :)

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Wait no more ;). Your app has been emailed to you. Let me know if it installs correctly. I added a couple dozen Gurkha's to the database before sending it, so now the total reference database is over 900 stogies. Lots more to go on the NC side, but I was testing some db stuff this time around.

You are running slightly different code as well. I changed the humidor view so the alignment works a little better. I'll post a comparison later to get people's feedback on the appearance. In the meantime, you should be set for testing. Let me know please...

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I got in on mine today, I am playing with it during my breaks. My first impression, seems simple to use and a nice selections to work with.

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I am able to delete cigars from reference...but don't see anything to add cigars to the reference anywhere

edit:
found that I can do it from the main reference page, but not if I'm already looking at a particular brand. I'd consider having the add button when you hit edit while looking at a particular brand

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Working on that right now :tu

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Tell me, can i use this app on a non jailbreak iphone 3G ?

If the awnser is yes, please send me the info:D

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Also, maybe an easy way to reduce the number of cigars in humi when you smoke one from a box. Not that the current way is overly difficult, but I see that as being a fairly common task so less steps to do so couldn't hurt. I'll try to think up a few ideas
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yes, it will work with iPhone 3G. Suggest you read the whole thread for info. we are in beta test mode now, hoping to release in about a week. Beta testing is currently limited to the amount I can handle :)

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any chance this might get ported to WM?

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THis program is for apple weenies only. :fu

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not on a bet :D. Both of the people who use WM would be fighting over who gets to install it first :r

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:alHal, Hal, Hal, when you join us in the 21st century, you'll understand better.

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Computer guys... :lv

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Sorry, didn't realize I was so uncool!

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nah, I don't want to start that us vs. them stuff. Just that the iPhone has some cool capabilities, and I decided that it was the best platform to try to develop a good cigar app. I've learned a ton about programming for the iPhone; I can't imagine trying to duplicate it all over again.

(snob mode off) :-)

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Would you be willing to share your cigar database and general program design if someone else wanted to code it? Wouldn't be me, but I use a WM phone and love it, and a good program like this would really be nice. Nice enough to make me quit lurking and register for this forum :)

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Obvious you registered to post in this forum.

Ken, it's your baby IMO I would not share this as it would open up to other things and you would not get the kickback you may be looking for. :2 I'd hate for someone to steal the hard work that you did and claim it as their own. :tu

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More Notes/Thoughts:

1. I think it was fixed but multiple humidors with same names can be added and act the same once they are added. Troubles with moving and deleting cigars.

2. Date Acquired allows future dates to be added.
3. Year of cigar would be slicker in the scroll wheel option instead of the keypad. Plus the keypad allows multiple digit entries.
4. Color customizing would be great in the future. Especially for different humidors.
5. Main database should be secure and not able to edit once it is complete. Perhaps you could pay someone in cigars to add everything? You could also sell yearly database downloads??? (Sorry guys...trying to help him make some money for all the work he is doing..)
6. Rating system Scroll Wheel as well. (I really dislike the keypad...although it is easy it doesn't feel as slick or refined as flicking the scroll wheel up and down.) Maybe i have a thing for the price is right or something.
7. Being able to edit reference homepage for other names than Cuban or Non-Cuban. As much functionality as possible for me.
8. instead of deleting cigars from humidors....assuming they are being smoked. Have a recently smoked feature that keeps them in the database but deletes them from inventory. This way you could compare notes from specific smokes.
9. Can it connect to Cigar Asylum in anyway???? recent smokes...etc...


I'll keep playing.

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Yup, fixed in beta 2

yeah, I was gonna limit that up to current date, but figured if people want to go crazy with future dates, it's their own data they are messing with. What do others think?

Yup, I agree. See above for people messing with their own data though :)

Cool idea for version 2.
This one I really don't agree with. I want to make this useful for each individual, and people have different needs. Some folks don't need thousands of cigars in the reference, others will have cigars that I never heard of (especially in other countries). Also, the idea of adding "everything" is more daunting than I want to tackle. I'm not trying to make a business out this actually. Just started it as a hobby project because I wanted an app for personal use. Earning a few bucks back for my hundreds of hours of work on it would be nice, but still keeping it low key.

I'm with you on this one; that's why I added scroll wheels for brand, vitola, etc. What scale would be appropriate for rating? 1 - 100?[/quote]

Tricky one to design I think. Do you have some specific examples to help me think about how to do it?

Definitely the most important version 2 feature. I want that functionality too ;)
I keep thinking about that as well. Again, specific examples of the interaction you'd like to see?

Me too :D
Thanks again for all the feedback!

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Awesome thread, just counting the days until my Tmobile contract is up and I can get an Iphone. Keep up the good work!:tu

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Just got my I-touch! I can't wait for this to be published. :tu

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More input needed :)

Here are two versions of the cigar listing for a particular brand. The one on the left is the current version. The one on the right is what I'm thinking of changing to. The thought is that having the size in the listing makes it easier to pick out a particular cigar from the list. But it is a bit 'busier' looking. With the newer view, I could also add a button to sort by RG or by Length.

Which do you like better??

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/k...ke/OldList.png http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/k...ke/NewList.png

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Ken I myself like the one on the right with the sizes under the names. Its nice to see the sizes on the same page.

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Even though I'm not a beta tester I like the one on the right. I agree it is great to have sizes available on that screen instead of having to click or scroll.

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I like the one on the right much better Ken. Like we discussed before- when you're searching through looking to figure out what a particular smoke is in your hand... it's easier to see the sizes up front instead of playing the guessing game clicking each name to see the size. my 2 coins. :)

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You mean these Hal ----> :2 :D

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Yep them :tu

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I have a buddy that can't wait for this to be released :)

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I like the one on the right as well.

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This is becoming a nice little app as I continue to play with it. I am curious what you think of allowing the user to add a brand. I have several cigars that are out of production that are rarely heard off. It would be nice for me to be able to add those for the heck of it. Maybe a special selection humidor or something.

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Ken, I sent you an email

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Tonight is Kens Anniversary so I wouldn't expect to hear much from him this evening. :dance::wo:al