Originally Posted by CBI_2 (Post 175622)

Biggest clue that the pic was photoshppoed is the U.S. flag is facing the wrong direction.

Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 175626)

You beat me to it.:D

Originally Posted by Don Fernando (Post 175624)

but Fred, doesn't this picture show that it is definately not a one way street? And IMO there is a difference in the stories you posted which are not bashing the army but in:
Story one - The policits of the Bush administration
Story two - The politics of the Bush administration
Story three - The arrogance of a French officer
Story four - An elderly man who didn't have his paperwork ready when going tru customs

but the statement on the picture is disrespect to the non American soldiers that are dying out there. What further fuels my rage about this picture is the fact that yes, thanks to the Americans (and Brits, Canadians, Australians & Maroccan) armed forces WWII ended and there has always been a great deal of respect and appriciation towards those troops. Now foreign troops are helping America out in two wars (I see Iraq and Afghanistan as two seperated wars) and we got shown disrespect in this way (I know not every is disrespecting the allied forces, I am just talking about this picture and the photoshopper who made it).

Originally Posted by Da Klugs (Post 174987)

"Discussing" the French is a time honored tradition. :D

Originally Posted by Don Fernando (Post 175624)

but Fred, doesn't this picture show that it is definately not a one way street? And IMO there is a difference in the stories you posted which are not bashing the army but in:
Story one - The policits of the Bush administration
Story two - The politics of the Bush administration
Story three - The arrogance of a French officer
Story four - An elderly man who didn't have his paperwork ready when going tru customs

but the statement on the picture is disrespect to the non American soldiers that are dying out there. What further fuels my rage about this picture is the fact that yes, thanks to the Americans (and Brits, Canadians, Australians & Maroccan) armed forces WWII ended and there has always been a great deal of respect and appriciation towards those troops. Now foreign troops are helping America out in two wars (I see Iraq and Afghanistan as two seperated wars) and we got shown disrespect in this way (I know not every is disrespecting the allied forces, I am just talking about this picture and the photoshopper who made it).

Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 175629)

Just an observation.....
Hotreds clarified who the three countries listed are.
Are those countries in fact helping out as you state and did we miss something?
Remember, the photo does not illustrate the front of the United Nations with all the flags of the world. It specifically addresses three nations and I believe Hotreds has it right.

Originally Posted by Don Fernando (Post 175636)

then still "doing the job for" ........... who started the war on Iraq for false reasons? Who trained and armed the mudjahedin/taliban? Indeed: America, so why should other countries clean up the mess that the Reagan/Bush administration and the George W Bush administration made?

Originally Posted by Don Fernando (Post 175636)

then still "doing the job for" ........... who started the war on Iraq for false reasons? Who trained and armed the mudjahedin/taliban? Indeed: America, so why should other countries clean up the mess that the Reagan/Bush administration and the George W Bush administration made?

Originally Posted by Tenor CS (Post 175648)

So ... to throw another monkey wrench into the discussion: does anybody know if these stories are in fact, true? They sound like typical internet-forward glurge to me. (Glurge is a term I first heard at the snopes.com urban legend site to describe those heartwarming, chicken-soup-for-the-soul kind of stories) The lack of specifics re: dates of these supposed conversations, and no specific names of the non-Americans leads me to believe that these likely were not actual conversations. Also, the tone of the speakers does not seem very "diplomat-like."

Don't get me wrong, I have the utmost respect for our troops, and those of other countries. I just feel that there is no need to glurge-ify the stories. The facts speak strongly enough.


The facts I consider important:

There are many American troops in the Middle East right now.
Many of them are doing dangerous work in horrible conditions.
They should be respected for the job they are doing, even if you disagree with the politicians who are making them do that job.

Originally Posted by Big Vito (Post 175632)

http://www.ushistory.org/BETSY/images/petraeus.jpg
To wear our country's flag properly, the field of stars is worn closest to your heart. Further, when worn on the sleeve of a military uniform, the flag should appear to be advancing and not retreating. Thus, if your patch is to be worn on your LEFT sleeve, use a left flag (normal). For patches worn on your RIGHT sleeve, use a "right" or "reversed field" flag.

http://www.ushistory.org/BETSY/flagetiq.html

(this was copird and pasted everyone else please feel free to do it too}

Originally Posted by CBI_2 (Post 175651)

Thanks Perry. I stand corrected sir.



I hate to say it , but anyone who doesn't see the connection between Afghanistan and Iraq in the war against Islamo-fascism needs to get a better understanding of this conflict and its roots.

Originally Posted by md4958 (Post 175645)

I would hate to see it deleted because of it turning into a political rant.

Originally Posted by Tenor CS (Post 175648)

The facts I consider important:

There are many American troops in the Middle East right now.
Many of them are doing dangerous work in horrible conditions.
They should be respected for the job they are doing, even if you disagree with the politicians who are making them do that job.

Originally Posted by CBI_2 (Post 175651)

I hate to say it , but anyone who doesn't see the connection between Afghanistan and Iraq in the war against Islamo-fascism needs to get a better understanding of this conflict and its roots.

Originally Posted by Don Fernando (Post 175636)

Who trained and armed the mudjahedin/taliban? Indeed: America [SNIP]the Reagan/Bush administration