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Cigars wise, this Cuban will take a Padron Anni any day. Bet both will cost about the same soon as prices increase on CC's. |
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As for CC vs NC, I'd like to finally be able to judge my self. I've had almost ten CC all but one miserable. Yet you can't judge a country's cigars based on just a few you had. |
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I sympathize fully with Carlos here, as with the full Cuban-American community. I do not believe Raul is much better than Fidel, and do not think the lot of the common Cuban citizen has been much improved in recent years despite the announced "reforms". Still, the fact remains that 50+ years of US embargo has done little to bring the Cuban government to a more amenable relationship with either America or its own people. In fact, the removal of most support following the collapse of the Soviet Union, and the imminent prospect of a reduction of support from a struggling Venezuela has done more to bring about a reassessment by Cuba's leadership of their future. Thus it may indeed be time for the US to try a different approach to this sticky issue.
Albert Einstein famously said that definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different outcome. This has been America's tack since JFK first signed the embargo back in 1960. A change now might be an error, but it seems to me that stubborn resistance to change is decidedly one. |
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I have always been divided on this subject as truly see both sides of the fence.
All I can and will say on the subject of the embargo is Raul Castro has just verbally urged the U.S. to end it. That speaks volumes to me. It may not have caused change in their regime but it sure as heck must be one hell of a rope around their neck. |
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If we lift the embargo and don't like how things are going 5-10 years down the road, we can renew it again. Once Cuban leadership gets a taste of US dollars, their regime will crumble quick. Pepsico and Coca Cola have enough money to make all of them get in line.
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My 2 cents.
I wouldn't go to Cuba. There are plenty of other destitute, and not so, islands in the Caribbean. I smoke mostly Cuban cigars because they are cheaper for the value. I haven't bought any in a few years because my income doesn't justify having a ten year supply vs. a five year one. I haven't bought any NCs either. You would be insane to invest or finance anything in Cuba unless you could deal with them like a drug lord. The whole world could if they wanted to and they don't. Besides it being a brutal, dictatorial, police state, oligarchy, (wait, that sounds familliar ;) ), it may be a nice place. Nothing has changed as far as trade goes. Where do I go to sell them a few containers full of vitamins and pet supplies?:r What would they pay me with? Chinese yuan? Oh yeah, those would be containers from China anyway. I could have them drop shipped. I hear they got a lot of nice girls out there, a haw haw haw, a haw haw haw haw. You can go there and bring back $100 worth of stuff, big cheer. |
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How were CC's viewed before the 60's? Anyone around here old enough to remember? We're they seen as anything special before the embargo?
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The more intriguing question should be "what cigars outside of Cuba grown tobacco were popular at that time"?
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:cl Very cool!
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